Nigel Tufnel
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Mike Bell (RB-DEN) works with 1st team (1 Viewer)
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme
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amnesiac
beer is good
noob, big 11 rulez.guess i'll have to check the actual Denver thread, huh?
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Is this where we post disparaging things about the Pac 10?
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
I swore off drafting Bronco runningbacks last year after suffering through many years of Shanahan's bi-polar episodes. As a result, I lead a much more happy and relaxed fantasy football existence. There really should be a support group for this sort of thing. 
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
That's just proninja.
zamboni
Footballguy
Nothing gets FBGs more riled up than "who's hotter" polls and Denver RB threads.
Spartans346
Footballguy
If this guys proves to be the real deal in preseason, crap will hit the fan when he makes the 53 man roster.
I am sure everyone is going to watch the Denver preseason game this week.
I am sure everyone is going to watch the Denver preseason game this week.
Well, if you believe in recent history the Big XII won the title this year. Dunno if you caught that game or not.Also, the last quarter century is the most recent quarter century they had. The Big XII was also #1 in the most recent complete decade that is available in their records (1990-1999). Not exactly ancient history.So going by past year, most recent decade, or most recent quarter century the Big XII is looking pretty dang good. But thanks for pretending that I was talking about 20 years ago.And the only ones who get upset about talking all-time are the folks who have no history to back up a recent success (see Duke fans).
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Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
agree with joffer - re-direct to Bell please, or suffer lockdown.
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Football Jones
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WOW. I figured Mike Bell would kinda fade away after a couple preseason games. I didn't think he could hang with Dayne, Tatum, & Cobbs. He was plenty decent enough in college & likely would've been drafted late had he not run a slow 40. It just goes to show you a RB can survive without being fast. There's just so many other things more important than speed. He does have pretty good feet, so that's a plus.
All that said, he could still fade away. We'll just have to see what he does in practice & the games against 1st-teamers. I'll be watching Friday night...
All that said, he could still fade away. We'll just have to see what he does in practice & the games against 1st-teamers. I'll be watching Friday night...
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brakeyawself
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Im adding Mike Bell in most of my leagues wether I have Dayne or Tatum. At this point Im just going to take the Gamble on him and bite the bullet if it doesnt work out. Wait any longer and you might miss out on a starting RB. The reviews are good and my head hurts too much from all the guessing. This is worse than Vegas. Gotta play big to win big? Ohh jeez........
Otis
Footballguy
Sars, the attacks on the Big XII had me going. Thread hijack suspended.
As for Bell, I'm upset because he's not on Yahoo and my commish just said we can't draft them if they're not there (gotta wait for waivers which I'll be last for). So, it seems likely someone's going to get a steal. No matter how this shakes out I think he'll be worth a WW pick-up.
As for Bell, I'm upset because he's not on Yahoo and my commish just said we can't draft them if they're not there (gotta wait for waivers which I'll be last for). So, it seems likely someone's going to get a steal. No matter how this shakes out I think he'll be worth a WW pick-up.
Bob Sacamano
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I feel Mike Bell, his family, his Wildcats teammates, and that worthless conference with which they are affiliated are all ####s. As such, I have downgraded him in my rankings from useless to completely useless lop of ####. Thank you, good sir, for providing the valuable service that is keeping us on topic. That is all.
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General Malaise
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KNOCK IT OFF! NO HUMOR IN THE SHARK POOL, ROBERT.
Your Mother
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I warned you to stay away from that Sacamano boy. Nothing good can happen:1. After 2am2. At Ponderosa3. Spending time with him.Now, go to your room and think about what you've done.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
I was serious. I dropped him 4 spots, just below Vernand Morency and just above Greg Jones :(
midnightxxxx
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LMAO I handcuffed Dayne with Tatum and figured I would let father time iron out the wrinkles. I am not convinced Denvers starter is worth 3 slots on my team till they figure this one out. This is exactly why Kansas City fans hate Denver.
moleculo
Footballguy
well? did you see any?When moleculo makes a serious post I look outside my office window for fire and brimstone.Mike Bell will not be the starting RB on opening day if:
he fumbles
he consistantly misses blocking assignments
he does not show the ability to move a pile and get a first down.
he dances through the hole
he drops easy passesMike Bell will be the starting RB if:
he plays hard and focuses on fundamentals
he listens to the coaches and hits the hole hard
he makes one cut and goes (no dancing, no east/west running)
he can pick up a blitz
he can move a pile and pick up short yardsI think both Tatum and Dayne have some holes in their game, and it has been pretty obvious that Shannahan hasn't been super pleased with either one - hence, the talk about a RB pre draft, the talk aobut lelie for Jones, duckett, the necessity for RBBC, etc. Right now, I think this is MBells position to loose, as long as he keeps his head on straight.
Otis
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It's New York City so, yes, absolutely.
Liquid Tension
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I have been one of the people who was critical of all the posters who said that Ron Dayne can run in the Denver offense and anyone who runs in the Denver offense will be good...My feeling is that Ron Dayne is just not that good and because of that he will not be the guy who will ever do what Priest Holmes did, a matter of fact you will be lucky to get 10 points a game from the guy. That being said, to pick Mike Bell in teh 1st round is absolute lunacy. Tatum Bell will get some carries in this offense and we have no idea if Mike Bell is anything at all. I would expect more jumping on the bandwagon if it was Cecil Cobbs being annointed the starting job because he has a much better track record.Anyway, people, if you are in the middle of your draft take this info and grab Mike Bell, but don't under any circumstance take Mike Bell in the 1st round; that is just
Otis
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When the best guys left on the board are Santonio Holmes and Brian Calhoun, I see absolutely no reason not to take Bell.Anyway, people, if you are in the middle of your draft take this info and grab Mike Bell, but don't under any circumstance take Mike Bell in the 1st round; that is just
wadegarrett
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From a fantasy perspective, I could hate Tatum Bell more than any player ever.
Yep. I do.
Yep. I do.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
It was a "rookie draft".I have been one of the people who was critical of all the posters who said that Ron Dayne can run in the Denver offense and anyone who runs in the Denver offense will be good...My feeling is that Ron Dayne is just not that good and because of that he will not be the guy who will ever do what Priest Holmes did, a matter of fact you will be lucky to get 10 points a game from the guy. That being said, to pick Mike Bell in teh 1st round is absolute lunacy. Tatum Bell will get some carries in this offense and we have no idea if Mike Bell is anything at all. I would expect more jumping on the bandwagon if it was Cecil Cobbs being annointed the starting job because he has a much better track record.Anyway, people, if you are in the middle of your draft take this info and grab Mike Bell, but don't under any circumstance take Mike Bell in the 1st round; that is just
I still absolutely positively believe that if Ron Dayne is the #1 RB in Denver, then Ron Dayne has a ton of fantasy value. I believed that whether he was a "good" RB or not.Also, I'm not quite ready to sell out Dayne yet, either. I still think he has as good of a chance to finish with the job as MBell. I just view Dayne/Bell now as, say, a Foster/Williams combo. Or Benson/Jones. You know one of them will be the starter, you know one of them will be valuable, but you don't know which one so you're best off grabbing both and riding it out. In fact, if forced to chose between the two right now, I'd still take Dayne. The fact that Bell got the 1st-team reps for one practice doesn't automatically override the fact that Dayne got the first team reps for... what, eleven straight practices?I have been one of the people who was critical of all the posters who said that Ron Dayne can run in the Denver offense and anyone who runs in the Denver offense will be good...My feeling is that Ron Dayne is just not that good and because of that he will not be the guy who will ever do what Priest Holmes did, a matter of fact you will be lucky to get 10 points a game from the guy. That being said, to pick Mike Bell in teh 1st round is absolute lunacy. Tatum Bell will get some carries in this offense and we have no idea if Mike Bell is anything at all. I would expect more jumping on the bandwagon if it was Cecil Cobbs being annointed the starting job because he has a much better track record.Anyway, people, if you are in the middle of your draft take this info and grab Mike Bell, but don't under any circumstance take Mike Bell in the 1st round; that is just
You. You are dead to me. The least you could do is acknowledge my trade proposal.It was a "rookie draft".
oukurt
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I swore off drafting Bronco runningbacks last year after suffering through many years of Shanahan's bi-polar episodes. As a result, I lead a much more happy and relaxed fantasy football existence. There really should be a support group for this sort of thing.
mfing great postingTraders2001
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BS
hankey2mlh
Footballguy
So you wouldn't claim Mike Bell off waivers if you could?I swore off drafting Bronco runningbacks last year after suffering through many years of Shanahan's bi-polar episodes. As a result, I lead a much more happy and relaxed fantasy football existence. There really should be a support group for this sort of thing.
That's exactly what I did a week ago - thanks in large part to Lammey's daily reports from Denver... 
If Mike Bell pans out --> 
If not, I didn't lose anything. 
footballfreek
Footballguy
footballfreek
Footballguy
I could just see Shanny with a grin on his face saying. "you wanna screw over all the fantasy freaks out there"? We'll give them Bell...... Mike that is.
O.K. repeat to myself. I will never draft a RB that plays for Shanny.
I have Dayne and Taco Bell...but no Mike and the guy that has him wants the farm now.
O.K. repeat to myself. I will never draft a RB that plays for Shanny.
I have Dayne and Taco Bell...but no Mike and the guy that has him wants the farm now.
Ministry of Pain
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Mike Bell entered camp as the fourth-string running back, but quickly impressed the coaches when they went back and analyzed film from training camp. He simply stood out.
"Mike (Shanahan) sent a message to the team that practices are important and we do evaluate every play, every snap on film and make decisions on that," assistant head coach Mike Heimerdinger said.
"We're making this move after nine days (of practice) because he's had the better practices. If he can hold it, fine. If he can't, the other two guys will push him. We expect the other two guys to push him and take the position back."
Not if Mike Bell has anything to say about it.
"A lot of people in this situation will get complacent, but Ron and Tatum are great backs so they're going to be pushing and pushing, so I've got to keep pushing and pushing. Ultimately, it's going to be good for the team's success."
Heimerdinger downplayed speculation the move was made to motivate Dayne and Tatum Bell. The battle for the top spot appeared to be between Tatum Bell and Dayne since last year's leading rusher, Mike Anderson, was let go in the offseason.
"I don't think it was motivation," Heimerdinger said. "Mike earned it."
After Monday's practice, Dayne jogged around the field with Mike Bell. The two chatted and joked as they ran a series of sprints.
But Dayne's not admitting defeat. Neither is Tatum Bell, who wouldn't talk after practice. There's still plenty of camp left to win back the starting job.
"We all are practicing pretty good, but Mike got the edge in practice so far," Dayne said. "Both of us (Dayne and Tatum Bell) have got to pick it up, keep going and press the young guy."
As Mike Bell spoke with reporters Monday, he couldn't help but flash a giant grin. Asked if he expected this, he just shook his head.
"Never, never, never," Bell said.
Yet he won't let the promotion go to his head.
"Coach Shanahan is a great coach and I respect his decision, but I still have got to go out there in the preseason games and show what I can do," Bell said.
"Mike (Shanahan) sent a message to the team that practices are important and we do evaluate every play, every snap on film and make decisions on that," assistant head coach Mike Heimerdinger said.
"We're making this move after nine days (of practice) because he's had the better practices. If he can hold it, fine. If he can't, the other two guys will push him. We expect the other two guys to push him and take the position back."
Not if Mike Bell has anything to say about it.
"A lot of people in this situation will get complacent, but Ron and Tatum are great backs so they're going to be pushing and pushing, so I've got to keep pushing and pushing. Ultimately, it's going to be good for the team's success."
Heimerdinger downplayed speculation the move was made to motivate Dayne and Tatum Bell. The battle for the top spot appeared to be between Tatum Bell and Dayne since last year's leading rusher, Mike Anderson, was let go in the offseason.
"I don't think it was motivation," Heimerdinger said. "Mike earned it."
After Monday's practice, Dayne jogged around the field with Mike Bell. The two chatted and joked as they ran a series of sprints.
But Dayne's not admitting defeat. Neither is Tatum Bell, who wouldn't talk after practice. There's still plenty of camp left to win back the starting job.
"We all are practicing pretty good, but Mike got the edge in practice so far," Dayne said. "Both of us (Dayne and Tatum Bell) have got to pick it up, keep going and press the young guy."
As Mike Bell spoke with reporters Monday, he couldn't help but flash a giant grin. Asked if he expected this, he just shook his head.
"Never, never, never," Bell said.
Yet he won't let the promotion go to his head.
"Coach Shanahan is a great coach and I respect his decision, but I still have got to go out there in the preseason games and show what I can do," Bell said.
LHUCKS
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Get a link on this?Edit: Nevermind no the link - I don't care. I took this and ran with it and posted it in 3 leagues I'm in, all of which with varying stake in the Denver backfield ranging from Cedric Cobbs to Dayne + Bell.
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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14233556/Dunno if that's where MoP got his blurb from. It's the same article, except with a lot more at the beginning.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
From Liquid Tension
I have been one of the people who was critical of all the posters who said that Ron Dayne can run in the Denver offense and anyone who runs in the Denver offense will be good...My feeling is that Ron Dayne is just not that good and because of that he will not be the guy who will ever do what Priest Holmes did, a matter of fact you will be lucky to get 10 points a game from the guy. That being said, to pick Mike Bell in teh 1st round is absolute lunacy. Tatum Bell will get some carries in this offense and we have no idea if Mike Bell is anything at all. I would expect more jumping on the bandwagon if it was Cecil Cobbs being annointed the starting job because he has a much better track record.
Anyway, people, if you are in the middle of your draft take this info and grab Mike Bell, but don't under any circumstance take Mike Bell in the 1st round; that is just
From SSOG
I still absolutely positively believe that if Ron Dayne is the #1 RB in Denver, then Ron Dayne has a ton of fantasy value. I believed that whether he was a "good" RB or not.
Also, I'm not quite ready to sell out Dayne yet, either. I still think he has as good of a chance to finish with the job as MBell. I just view Dayne/Bell now as, say, a Foster/Williams combo. Or Benson/Jones. You know one of them will be the starter, you know one of them will be valuable, but you don't know which one so you're best off grabbing both and riding it out. In fact, if forced to chose between the two right now, I'd still take Dayne. The fact that Bell got the 1st-team reps for one practice doesn't automatically override the fact that Dayne got the first team reps for... what, eleven straight practices?
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From Liquid Tension
The point is that Dayne is simply not that good and because of that he simply won't carry the ball like a number 1. Tatum Bell will be driven as much as possible and they will now find ways of getting Mike Bell into the game. I guess you and I differ on the way talent is utilized. I understand your thought that the #1 RB in Denver has a lot of value, but if you arent very good you won't be the #1 RB who carries the ball most of the time. AT BEST I saw Dayne as a RBBC guy and at worst cut. The upside of Ron Dayne even on Denver is 10 points a game. As I said before this news, you will not see me draft Ron Dayne in any league, he just isn't talented enough IMO.
I have been one of the people who was critical of all the posters who said that Ron Dayne can run in the Denver offense and anyone who runs in the Denver offense will be good...My feeling is that Ron Dayne is just not that good and because of that he will not be the guy who will ever do what Priest Holmes did, a matter of fact you will be lucky to get 10 points a game from the guy. That being said, to pick Mike Bell in teh 1st round is absolute lunacy. Tatum Bell will get some carries in this offense and we have no idea if Mike Bell is anything at all. I would expect more jumping on the bandwagon if it was Cecil Cobbs being annointed the starting job because he has a much better track record.
Anyway, people, if you are in the middle of your draft take this info and grab Mike Bell, but don't under any circumstance take Mike Bell in the 1st round; that is just
From SSOG
I still absolutely positively believe that if Ron Dayne is the #1 RB in Denver, then Ron Dayne has a ton of fantasy value. I believed that whether he was a "good" RB or not.
Also, I'm not quite ready to sell out Dayne yet, either. I still think he has as good of a chance to finish with the job as MBell. I just view Dayne/Bell now as, say, a Foster/Williams combo. Or Benson/Jones. You know one of them will be the starter, you know one of them will be valuable, but you don't know which one so you're best off grabbing both and riding it out. In fact, if forced to chose between the two right now, I'd still take Dayne. The fact that Bell got the 1st-team reps for one practice doesn't automatically override the fact that Dayne got the first team reps for... what, eleven straight practices?
"
From Liquid Tension
The point is that Dayne is simply not that good and because of that he simply won't carry the ball like a number 1. Tatum Bell will be driven as much as possible and they will now find ways of getting Mike Bell into the game. I guess you and I differ on the way talent is utilized. I understand your thought that the #1 RB in Denver has a lot of value, but if you arent very good you won't be the #1 RB who carries the ball most of the time. AT BEST I saw Dayne as a RBBC guy and at worst cut. The upside of Ron Dayne even on Denver is 10 points a game. As I said before this news, you will not see me draft Ron Dayne in any league, he just isn't talented enough IMO.
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hankey2mlh
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What are you trying to say by bolding this message? Sure the coaches expect Dayne and Tatum to push Mike Bell now, that's what Dayne and Tatum are being paid for. What else could Heimerdinger have said? "We expect the other two guys to quit giving 100 percent at practice because Mike Bell is our new starting running back."
Well, he didn't say that he expects Dayne/Bell to *TRY* to take the position back... he said he expects them to actually succeed and take the position back.What are you trying to say by bolding this message? Sure the coaches expect Dayne and Tatum to push Mike Bell now, that's what Dayne and Tatum are being paid for. What else could Heimerdinger have said? "We expect the other two guys to quit giving 100 percent at practice because Mike Bell is our new starting running back."
Sleeper 43
Footballguy
Amen,I'm starting to remember why I stayed away from the Denver Running game the past couple seasons.I took Tatum Bell this year.I swore off drafting Bronco runningbacks last year after suffering through many years of Shanahan's bi-polar episodes. As a result, I lead a much more happy and relaxed fantasy football existence. There really should be a support group for this sort of thing.
I'm "hoping" this is to motivate T.Bell/Dayne but trying to read Shanny is like trying to read hieroglyphics with a blindfold on. I dont know who has a bigger ego Shanny or Martz. Sometimes I think they do things just to be different and make it work for props.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
moleculo
Footballguy
I'm sure he didn't expect MBell to push that hard for the #1 spot either.Bottom line is that Broncos are going into a game preparation with Mike Bell at the #1 spot. Bell is guaranteed this position for at least a week, a critical week at that. If he can deal with the pressure this week, he could thrive this season.Well, he didn't say that he expects Dayne/Bell to *TRY* to take the position back... he said he expects them to actually succeed and take the position back.What are you trying to say by bolding this message? Sure the coaches expect Dayne and Tatum to push Mike Bell now, that's what Dayne and Tatum are being paid for. What else could Heimerdinger have said? "We expect the other two guys to quit giving 100 percent at practice because Mike Bell is our new starting running back."
hankey2mlh
Footballguy
First of all he said that he expected the other two guys to push him. I disagree with you about the interpretation of the second part of the sentence ("and take the position back"): I don't think he is expecting them to actually succeed. I assume he meant it more in the sense of "trying to take the position back". But that's just myWell, he didn't say that he expects Dayne/Bell to *TRY* to take the position back... he said he expects them to actually succeed and take the position back.What are you trying to say by bolding this message? Sure the coaches expect Dayne and Tatum to push Mike Bell now, that's what Dayne and Tatum are being paid for. What else could Heimerdinger have said? "We expect the other two guys to quit giving 100 percent at practice because Mike Bell is our new starting running back."
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
Watching the footage from the presser, Shanahan never looks the reporter in the eye while answering his question. In fact, he's just looking from side to side at nothing the entire time he's talking. That tells me he's lying.
So, in summation, he's full of it in regards to Bell being his guy. He's doing this as a motivation for Dayne and Bell to get their butts in gear.
So, in summation, he's full of it in regards to Bell being his guy. He's doing this as a motivation for Dayne and Bell to get their butts in gear.
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Winston Smith
Footballguy
As a result of this news, I am rushing to the waiver wire to grab Cedric Cobbs in all of my leagues 
Winston Smith
Footballguy
This is the way of the undead. Skelator has no soul, so looking into his (its) eyes is meaningless.Urinal Mint said:
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Cookiemonster
Footballguy
In response to this argument, I'd like to point at W.Parker. While due to injury as much as performance, Bettis/Staley were expected to push to earn back the job but Parker was simply the most productive. Not that this is the 1st time, or far from the last but the most recent/prolific example. So far in camp, M.Bell has been the most productive - by accounts of those posting here after watching camp and now confirmed by the Denver coaching staff. In addition, Shanahan has not been known as a liar and doesnt' set out to confuse the media and us FFballers, but rather is fickle and won't hesitate to change his plans if something looks better to him come gameday. By all accounts, M.Bell is looking the best. If he continues to look this way, he'll continue to keep the job. All along we have been speculating about the Denver RB situation and if they may persue Barlow or T.Jones or C.Brown etc... and they have found that guy in their own camp.hankey2mlh said:First of all he said that he expected the other two guys to push him. I disagree with you about the interpretation of the second part of the sentence ("and take the position back"): I don't think he is expecting them to actually succeed. I assume he meant it more in the sense of "trying to take the position back". But that's just mySSOG said:Well, he didn't say that he expects Dayne/Bell to *TRY* to take the position back... he said he expects them to actually succeed and take the position back.hankey2mlh said:What are you trying to say by bolding this message? Sure the coaches expect Dayne and Tatum to push Mike Bell now, that's what Dayne and Tatum are being paid for. What else could Heimerdinger have said? "We expect the other two guys to quit giving 100 percent at practice because Mike Bell is our new starting running back."Ministry of Pain said:
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