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cstu
Footballguy
CHICAGO - The Seattle Seahawks acquired veteran safety Mike Green from the Chicago Bears for a sixth-round draft pick on Tuesday.
Taken with the and final pick in the 2000 draft from Northwestern State, Green had 437 total tackles (282 solo), six sacks, four interceptions and 27 pass breakups in six seasons with the Bears. Green was second on the team to linebacker Brian Urlacher with a career-high 138 tackles in 2002 and 132 in 2004.
Taken with the and final pick in the 2000 draft from Northwestern State, Green had 437 total tackles (282 solo), six sacks, four interceptions and 27 pass breakups in six seasons with the Bears. Green was second on the team to linebacker Brian Urlacher with a career-high 138 tackles in 2002 and 132 in 2004.
boubucarow
Footballguy
Good luck to Seattle. Green is decently good near the line of scrimmage but is a horrible deep cover safety. He has always taken bad routes to block a pass or get a open field tackle. I am glad he is gone and surprised the Bears got a pick for him.
Exactly what immediately came to my mind. Also the Bears must be pretty happy with Chris Harris.
IMO, Green just adds depth for Seattle to help replace Manuel. Hamlin should still be the starter there, assuming that he's able to recover. But, the defense was burned in the Super Bowl when Manuel got hurt, so adding some experienced depth back there was important for Seattle.
As for the Bears, they definitely have high hopes for Chris Harris. But, him and Mike Brown suffered injuries in 2005 and adding depth will be important. I expect they'll try to upgrade their secondary depth (CB/S) through the draft. Undrafted FS Brandon McGowan played well last year but is recovering from a knee injury and may not be available until after the season starts.
The Bears did try hard to land Adam Archuleta in free agency, so don't be surprised if they look to add a Strong Safety in the draft and move Mike Brown back to Free Safety.
I don't think Tillman to FS is going to happen anytime soon. He's a great CB for the Tampa 2 system.
As for the Bears, they definitely have high hopes for Chris Harris. But, him and Mike Brown suffered injuries in 2005 and adding depth will be important. I expect they'll try to upgrade their secondary depth (CB/S) through the draft. Undrafted FS Brandon McGowan played well last year but is recovering from a knee injury and may not be available until after the season starts.
The Bears did try hard to land Adam Archuleta in free agency, so don't be surprised if they look to add a Strong Safety in the draft and move Mike Brown back to Free Safety.
I don't think Tillman to FS is going to happen anytime soon. He's a great CB for the Tampa 2 system.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Why? They need a backup, and that is what Green is.
green wasn't a starter in CHI anyway... so it doesn't necessarily bear on whether tillman gets shifted from CB to FS...
definitely hamlin is the starter in FS if he is able... i think he has been cleared by his own doctor but SEA medical staff may be more catious...
i agree green not very good in coverage... better fit as SS... but they already have boulware there... so it is probably a move for depth, as was stated...
in NFC west, with withering aerial attacks of STL & ARI, you probably can't have too many storm troopers for war in tne sky...
definitely hamlin is the starter in FS if he is able... i think he has been cleared by his own doctor but SEA medical staff may be more catious...
i agree green not very good in coverage... better fit as SS... but they already have boulware there... so it is probably a move for depth, as was stated...
in NFC west, with withering aerial attacks of STL & ARI, you probably can't have too many storm troopers for war in tne sky...
making a move like this right before the draft tells me they want extra insurance for Hamlin. that's all i was getting at. I agree that he's backup quality.
A DB will be drafted. Bears dont seem eager to swap out a CB, and there is no way they are letting their safeties remain this thin after last season.
If there is one thing i pray the Bears have etched in their memories, it's Delhomme spotting Chris Thompson lined up across from Steve Smith and changing the play at the LOS. Bears need depth at DB, and it looks like things have gotten worse so far in the off season.
If there is one thing i pray the Bears have etched in their memories, it's Delhomme spotting Chris Thompson lined up across from Steve Smith and changing the play at the LOS. Bears need depth at DB, and it looks like things have gotten worse so far in the off season.
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
Like FF and AR said, Seattle needed a safety regardless. Prior to making this trade they carried a total of four (Hart, Pruitt, Boulware, Hamlin) and Pruitt is likely headed back to the practice squad. This move also signals IMO, that they will not use their #1 pick on a Safety and draft a CB or a DT depending on availability. Minor signing and Green is really just insurance.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Why do you see it as "extra" insurance for Hamlin and not just signing a backup? Who is the other insurance behind Hamlin, that you see this as "Extra" insurance? Seattle had no viable backup, so whether or not Hamlin was injured, they needed someone.
I agree with this. He's not a very good player, although most wouldn't know it from looking at his stats as a starter. But, trading him does leave them a little thin at the safety spot for the time being.
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
It's a good move for Seattle. Hopefully this means Etric "practice squad" Pruitt will never take the field for anything but special teams.
And this trade doesn't reflect a lack of faith in Ken Hamlin any more than the re-signing Seneca Wallace would on Hasselbeck. Every position needs backups...
And this trade doesn't reflect a lack of faith in Ken Hamlin any more than the re-signing Seneca Wallace would on Hasselbeck. Every position needs backups...
boubucarow
Footballguy
This far into one's career, where you got drafted is irrelavant. How good you are now is relevant? Green is a very limited defensive back who is borderline backup material. The chance to give him up and take a stab at a 6th round pick is good value.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
I would think you would be pleased that you got any production at all from a guy who was never supposed to even play in this league. Nowadays, a guy almost never demands more in a trade for draft picks than what he was originally drafted for. It sounds like the Bears really scored by selecting this guy. Why the animousity?
boubucarow
Footballguy
The Bears now have three quality corners and two quality safeties. I very much doubt they will move Tillman considering they probably won't be able to match his value at corner and the improvement over Harris is minimal if any improvement at all.
Brown and Harris are very good near the line of scrimmage but are a bit limited in coverage. The Bears need a good centerfielder. Harris should grow into a better coverage safety but SS is not as much of a need as FS is for the Bears.
Last thing about Tillman, he had an up and down year but he has the talent to rebound and still be a very good corner. He just needs to focus better each and every play.
As for the Bears draft, I see TE and LB or FS in the first two rounds. Then LB or FS, CB, and OL the rest of the draft.
Brown and Harris are very good near the line of scrimmage but are a bit limited in coverage. The Bears need a good centerfielder. Harris should grow into a better coverage safety but SS is not as much of a need as FS is for the Bears.
Last thing about Tillman, he had an up and down year but he has the talent to rebound and still be a very good corner. He just needs to focus better each and every play.
As for the Bears draft, I see TE and LB or FS in the first two rounds. Then LB or FS, CB, and OL the rest of the draft.
boubucarow
Footballguy
No animosity here. It was a good draft pick but he has not been a good player the last two years and the Bears are lucky to get any value for him. The Bears have been good recently in selecting second day contributors and continue to reap the benefits of their success in big and small ways.
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
I sat next to his wife (7 months preg) at the Super Bowl. I felt pretty bad for her. Especially after I said,"This is his big chance. Interception, fumble recovery and he's a hero." There was no "or" anywhere in the conversation.
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
Ouch.I feel bad for him. The guy was in way over his head.I sat next to his wife (7 months preg) at the Super Bowl. I felt pretty bad for her. Especially after I said,"This is his big chance. Interception, fumble recovery and he's a hero." There was no "or" anywhere in the conversation.
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
Me and this other Seahawk fan talked about it right after the game. I felt bad for the guy. Her mood went fromOuch.I feel bad for him. The guy was in way over his head.I sat next to his wife (7 months preg) at the Super Bowl. I felt pretty bad for her. Especially after I said,"This is his big chance. Interception, fumble recovery and he's a hero." There was no "or" anywhere in the conversation.
to completely :( after the Parker run.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
I think this is a classic case of a win-win trade scenario.
The Bears only had 5 picks in this year's draft (1, 2, 4, 5 and 6th rounders).
As far as Seattle goes, it was highly unlikely they'd get an immediate contributor this year in Round 6. Green is an above average special teams player and could push for the starting FS spot.
The Bears only had 5 picks in this year's draft (1, 2, 4, 5 and 6th rounders).
As far as Seattle goes, it was highly unlikely they'd get an immediate contributor this year in Round 6. Green is an above average special teams player and could push for the starting FS spot.
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
Nope.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Really.. what am I sniffin'He could push for the dime back spot.
Kai's Hero
Footballguy
Bottom line ..... Another good move for the NFC Champions!
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Why the hell did the Cowboys not burn up the phone line to get this guy??? A sixth round pick? That would have been a great move for the Cowboys...who are still in dire need of a decent FS..
Texasmouth
Footballguy
boubucarow
Footballguy
Please know that he is not a decent free safety. Be glad you didn't get him unless what you need is a special teams player who can moonlight as a safety who better be near the line of scrimmage consistently.
boubucarow
Footballguy
Seahawks fans probably shouldn't get too excited about this pickup. But, the cost was cheap...so they can always get rid of him easily when they find somebody better.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
My first thought was L.Schulters. I thought he was going to be signed by SEA and there have been some reports he won't be going back to MIA so where does that leave him? He's not great but good enough to start somewhere.
BigTuna
Footballguy
I was hoping Seattle could do better than this. I don't believe he's being brought in as a backup. Hamlin screwed up, he went out got drunk, and got his egg cracked. I doubt he'll be anything but a shade of what he used to be. Even if his head is structurally sound. I have to believe he'll suffer some comfidence problems. Having a safety with a cracked skull is not good, considering their job is to hit people with it.
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
I'll take that bet.
