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Mike Williams Released (1 Viewer)

Wow. This guy had quite the future set for him at one time. 4th overall pick just a few years ago. And he's just HUGE. I haven't seen many players that looked bigger than him.

 
That right tackle spot doesn't even require finesse, just pure mauling ability and in college he certainly showed that. I guess the rumors of his laziness and unreceptiveness to coaching are true.

I hope he turns it around on a new team because it's sad to see that kind of talent go down the drain.

He's too big and slow for a zone-blocking scheme but maybe a team like Baltimore could turn him around and have him replace Orlando Brown.

 
Here's what the Bills page had on him (already took it down):

2002 #4 overall pick6-6, 3601/11/1980PRO: Selected by the Bills with the fourth overall pick in the 2002 Draft after, in order, QB David Carr (Houston), DE Julius Peppers (Carolina), and QB Joey Harrington (Detroit)…was Buffalo's highest draft pick since Bruce Smith (#1 overall in 1985)…was the first offensive lineman selected.2005: Started the first game of the season at right tackle vs. Hou (9/11). Helped rushing game compile 152 yards and played on a line that allowed only one sack. … Started at right tackle at TB (9/18)…Inactive vs. ATL (9/25) … Inactive at NO (10/2) … Saw action on placekicking teams vs. Mia (10/9) … Returned to lineup to bolster offensive line vs. NYJ (10/16) … five starters started first game since season-opener … line helped produce season-high 177 rushing yards. Started fourth game of the season at Oak (10/23). Saw action on special teams at NE (10/30) ... Started first game of his career at left guard vs. KC (11/13) … was replaced by Bennie Anderson in the second quarter … saw time on special teams. … Saw action on special teams at SD (11/20)... Saw limited action vs. Car. (11/27) … Inactive at Mia (12/4) … Inactive vs. NE (12/11) … Inactive vs. Den (12/17)... Inactive at Cin (12/24) … Full name - Michael D. Williams… was a two-way lineman at The Colony (TX) High and was named the District Defensive Player of the Year as a senior…earned second-team Texas 5A All-State honors that season…recorded 67 tackles and six sacks as a defensive tackle in 1997 and also caused three fumbles and recovered three fumbles…in addition to football was also a member of the track team…majored in Youth and Community Studies…while at UT, hosted the popular "Mike Williams Show" on the school's website…father ran track at Arkansas State.
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The man wore a SIZE 75 JACKET!!

Normally I'd say it was a $10 cab ride to get around him but he played more with a matador mentality.

He was huge yes but VERY soft. He also couldn't play hurt.

I'm sure he'll get many offers to work the doors at your local Hooters.

 
This guy was only kept around because of cap considerations. He awful, I remember local radio people in Buffalo would be all over him and Erik Flowers, both early picks that played like Ferdinand the Bull........... :excited:

 
does this guy not have the feet to play tackle... come to think of it... how many 500 lb humans do? sumo wrestlers have told him he may want to think about watching his diet...

if he can't get big money as a coveted tackle... it would be fun to see williams at OG in ARI, especially if they also shifted mammoth man-mountain leonard davis to more natural interior OL... biggest guard combo evah?

those two make guys like lincoln kennedy & david dixon look like maurice drew & darren sproles. :)

 
Corey Stringer was the same weight and was a borderline allstar. Most really huge guys like that don't have the lateral quickness, though.......

 
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Sad. When Mike came out of Texas I thought he would tear the NFL up. I stood next to him several times during his college career and he is just HUGE. I guess it takes more than size to play on the next level. I hope he gets his issues (whatever they are) settled and makes a comeback, he is still young for a lineman.

 
Sad. When Mike came out of Texas I thought he would tear the NFL up. I stood next to him several times during his college career and he is just HUGE. I guess it takes more than size to play on the next level. I hope he gets his issues (whatever they are) settled and makes a comeback, he is still young for a lineman.
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I just find it hard to believe that a 6-6, 360 pound 26 year old o-lineman who was drafted as a top LT only four years ago can't make it at least as an OG. I could be wrong, but it seems strange.
 
Too bad the Rams drafted Alex "I'm new, don't hurt me" Barron last year. I think Williams could have evolved into a solid bookend with Pace. Hell, maybe the Rams could try him at guard.

 
Drew Bledsoe > Vinny T

but that doesn't mean Dallas is going to win anything meaningful with him under center
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Parcells is a master motivator(like any HOF coach is/was) I'd bet he could succeed in Dallas. Parcells is far better than the coaches that were in Buffalo and Bledsoe's play reflects that.
 
if he gets the correct coaching at his next stop...that team will have themselves a great find at G. playing him at tackle isn't putting him in a position to succeed imo

many teams would be wise to take a shot at him - i'll guess he ends up near his old college stomping grounds. i'd say the texans, but kubiac offensive lines tend to go with smaller, more athletic players...so he signs on with the cowboys

 
Williams can engulf defenders in the running game, but I just don't think he has the feet to make it in the NFL. In the games I saw, he did not move his feet in pass blocking, so an end could tee off on him, either with speed to the outside or a false step.

It is very telling when a team cuts you in the midst of your rookie contract.

 
if he gets the correct coaching at his next stop...that team will have themselves a great find at G.  playing him at tackle isn't putting him in a position to succeed imo
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sounds like he doesn't want to play guard though, and he was terrible during the brief time when the Bills tried playing him there midseason.he's a good run blocker when motivated (and healthy), but he will get destroyed by edge rushers with speed.as a rookie, this guy signed what was then the biggest contract in Bills history and then got dramatically outplayed last year by an undrafted free agent who played TE in college (Jason Peters). It wasn't all coaching either as Jim McNally is widely regarded as one of the best offensive line coaches in the league and even he couldn't get this guy to play up to his potential.
 
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The Bills released OL Mike Williams today. He lost his starting role at RT to Jason Peters and didn't claim the LG spot when he was tried there.

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=3615

This guy could be a good addition for a number of teams.
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Let's see, a supposed "franchise OL" lost his job to a former TE.Yeah, I'm sure the teams are lined up to sign his lazy ###.

(somehow I can see the Chiefs going after him)

 
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I just find it hard to believe that a 6-6, 360 pound 26 year old o-lineman who was drafted as a top LT only four years ago can't make it at least as an OG. I could be wrong, but it seems strange.
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Completely agree.QB's and OL take longer to develop than most positions and too many people are willing to call a guy in his mid-20's a "bust". Plenty of OL'men have left the team that drafted them and went on to have solid careers.

 
I missed the 'Bills OL let go' subheading and then saw the terms big, slow, soft, laziness and unreceptiveness to coaching in the thread and thought you meant the WR.

I wouldn't of doubted you either.

 
On second thought, doesn't this eerily remind you of another tubby O-Lineman who ended up flaming out?

I wish I could say that Aaron Gibson was flipping burgers somewhere, but I'm sure he'd get fired for eating the burgers he actually flips.

 
if he gets the correct coaching at his next stop...that team will have themselves a great find at G. playing him at tackle isn't putting him in a position to succeed imo
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sounds like he doesn't want to play guard though, and he was terrible during the brief time when the Bills tried playing him there midseason.he's a good run blocker when motivated (and healthy), but he will get destroyed by edge rushers with speed.

as a rookie, this guy signed what was then the biggest contract in Bills history and then got dramatically outplayed last year by an undrafted free agent who played TE in college (Jason Peters). It wasn't all coaching either as Jim McNally is widely regarded as one of the best offensive line coaches in the league and even he couldn't get this guy to play up to his potential.
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I'd sign him and move him to nose tackle."Okay Mike... pay attention. When the ball is snapped, stand your ground!"

BRILLIANT!

 
On second thought, doesn't this eerily remind you of another tubby O-Lineman who ended up flaming out?
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Lincoln Kennedy?
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At least he was good for a short time.
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No, my point was he wasn't very good for ATL at all. He was highly thought of coming out of college and drafted in the top half of the first round. Plenty called him a lazy "bust" that was out of shape and not motivated before he moved to OAK, went to three straight pro-bowls and was considered by many as a team leader toward the end of his career.
 
Anyone think he might have a real future at guard?
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As a Bills fan, I don't. If he just had one type of problem it would be one thing, but the guy has multiple issues. The first and foremost is a lack of heart and dedication. Big Mike has never shown up to camp in shape. He's always overweight and in poor condition when camp starts and he never really seems to get into much better shape.

The guy also refuses to play hurt. It's a fact that you're going to get beaten up in the NFL. Everybody has to play with some dings in the NFL. But Big Mike didn't want to. If he stubbed his toe you could guarantee he'd miss at least a game. He had no heart at all.

On top of all of that, he just wasn't a good enough lineman. His feet are slow and he's just not aggressive enough. Maybe the guy can be a backup guard somewhere, but he IMO, he doesn't have what it takes to be a starter in the NFL.

 
On second thought, doesn't this eerily remind you of another tubby O-Lineman who ended up flaming out?
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Lincoln Kennedy?
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Funny you mention him, because if I remember right Mike Williams was a really personable guy. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the NFL Network if he doesn't get picked up by some other team.
 
i would say, don't let the door hit you on the way out, but there are three problems with that.

1. i don't know if he can fit through the door.

2. he isn't fast enough to get through the door to not let the door hit him.

3. if it does hit him, he will likely miss 5 weeks due to injury.

 
i would say, don't let the door hit you on the way out, but there are three problems with that.

1. i don't know if he can fit through the door.

2. he isn't fast enough to get through the door to not let the door hit him.

3. if it does hit him, he will likely miss 5 weeks due to injury.
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:goodposting:
 
On second thought, doesn't this eerily remind you of another tubby O-Lineman who ended up flaming out?
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Lincoln Kennedy?
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At least he was good for a short time.
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No, my point was he wasn't very good for ATL at all. He was highly thought of coming out of college and drafted in the top half of the first round. Plenty called him a lazy "bust" that was out of shape and not motivated before he moved to OAK, went to three straight pro-bowls and was considered by many as a team leader toward the end of his career.
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Good point. Forgot about his time in the ATL.
 
On second thought, doesn't this eerily remind you of another tubby O-Lineman who ended up flaming out?
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Lincoln Kennedy?
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At least he was good for a short time.
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No, my point was he wasn't very good for ATL at all. He was highly thought of coming out of college and drafted in the top half of the first round. Plenty called him a lazy "bust" that was out of shape and not motivated before he moved to OAK, went to three straight pro-bowls and was considered by many as a team leader toward the end of his career.
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Good point. Forgot about his time in the ATL.
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Lincoln Kennedy was a considered a huge bust for the Falcons (#9 overall in 1996) so it's conceivable that Williams can make a similar transformation.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing the Texans invite him to camp. Maybe getting cut will motivate him and he could save his career with a return to Texas. It looks like a long shot but what do the Texans have to lose...

 
On second thought, doesn't this eerily remind you of another tubby O-Lineman who ended up flaming out?
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Lincoln Kennedy?
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At least he was good for a short time.
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No, my point was he wasn't very good for ATL at all. He was highly thought of coming out of college and drafted in the top half of the first round. Plenty called him a lazy "bust" that was out of shape and not motivated before he moved to OAK, went to three straight pro-bowls and was considered by many as a team leader toward the end of his career.
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Good point. Forgot about his time in the ATL.
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Lincoln Kennedy was a considered a huge bust for the Falcons (#9 overall in 1996) so it's conceivable that Williams can make a similar transformation.
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For every Lincoln Kennedy there is a Charles McRae, Stan Thomas, Antone Davis . . . etc.
 
Remember the good ole days... when Buffalo knew how to draft players? :cry:
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their drafts haven't really been that bad.Mike Williams wound up being a huge bust, but I don't think anyone saw it coming. Josh Reed turned into a bust but looked great as a rookie. The jury is still out on Losman, but Lee Evans certainly looks like a great pick...as does Nate Clements, Aaron Schobel, Willis McGahee ( :( ), Terence McGee and Angelo Crowell. I guess you could also include guys like Antoine Winfield and Jonas Jennings in there. They've also done a great job adding depth with undrafted free agents in Jason Peters, Brian Moorman, Rashad Baker, etc.

 
On second thought, doesn't this eerily remind you of another tubby O-Lineman who ended up flaming out?
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Lincoln Kennedy?
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At least he was good for a short time.
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No, my point was he wasn't very good for ATL at all. He was highly thought of coming out of college and drafted in the top half of the first round. Plenty called him a lazy "bust" that was out of shape and not motivated before he moved to OAK, went to three straight pro-bowls and was considered by many as a team leader toward the end of his career.
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Good point. Forgot about his time in the ATL.
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Lincoln Kennedy was a considered a huge bust for the Falcons (#9 overall in 1996) so it's conceivable that Williams can make a similar transformation.
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For every Lincoln Kennedy there is a Charles McRae, Stan Thomas, Antone Davis . . . etc.
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That seem like more of an argument against taking OT's high in the draft(which I also disagree with) than trying to revive the career of an underperforming high 1st round OT.You have to factor into that equation the team that picks up Williams won't be giving up much in the way of salary to do so and the expectations on him will be as depth at OT/G. Maybe he was underwhelmed with the prospect of playing gaurd in the past but getting cut by a team certainly goes a long way towards teaching one humility.

BUF wasn't criticized for reaching for Williams in the draft. I'd say most people thought he was a top 10 talent so he has the physical tools to at the very least be productive.

 
When compared with other positions, I believe offensive tackles taken in the first round (particularly those taken in the top-20) have the lowest chance of becoming a total bust.

Offensive Tackles drafted in the 1st round over the past 14 years:

2005 - Jammal Brown (13), Alex Barron (19)

2004 - Robert Gallery (2), Shawn Andrews (16)

2003 - Jordan Gross (8), George Foster (20), Kwame Harris (26)

2002 - Mike Williams (4), Bryant McKinnie (7), Levi Jones (10), Marc Columbo (29)

2001 - Leonard Davis (2), Kenyatta Walker (14), Jeff Backus (18)

2000 - Chris Samuels (3), Stockar McDougle (20), Chris McIntosh (22)

1999 - John Tait (14), Matt Stinchcomb (18), Luke Petitgout (19), LJ Shelton (21), Aaron Gibson (27)

1998 - Kyle Turley (7), Tra Thomas (11), Mo Collins (23), Victor Riley (27)

1997 - Orlando Pace (1), Walter Jones (6), Tarik Glenn (19)

1996 - Jonathan Ogden (4), Willie Anderson (10), John Michels (27), Jamain Stephens (29), Andre Johnson (30)

1995 - Tony Boselli (2), Korey Stringer (24), Billy Milner (25), Blake Brockermeyer (29), Trezelle Jenkins (31)

1994 - Bernard Williams (14), Wayne Gandy (15), Aaron Taylor (16), Todd Steussie (19), Tre Johnson (31)

1993 - Willie Roaf (8), Lincoln Kennedy (9), Brad Hopkins (13), Ernest Dye (18), Ben Coleman (32)

1992 - Bob Whitfield (8), Ray Roberts (10), Leon Searcy (11), Eugene Chung (13), John Fina (27)

Hard to find many OTs taken in the top 20 picks of a draft who went bust, so Williams would be pretty unique if he doesn't turn things around at some point. This is part of the problem, IMO, with the current CBA. Rookies drafted highly get paid a ton of guaranteed money and have very little incentive to work and earn their paychecks. Williams made a small fortune during his brief stint in Buffalo while a player like Jason Peters can outplay him for years and still not make much more than the league minimum. Perhaps a change of scenery and a more incentive laden contract will be enough to help Mike Williams begin to live up to his potential...but he may just not care enough as he already has plenty of money to live comfortably.

 
On second thought, doesn't this eerily remind you of another tubby O-Lineman who ended up flaming out?
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Lincoln Kennedy?
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At least he was good for a short time.
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No, my point was he wasn't very good for ATL at all. He was highly thought of coming out of college and drafted in the top half of the first round. Plenty called him a lazy "bust" that was out of shape and not motivated before he moved to OAK, went to three straight pro-bowls and was considered by many as a team leader toward the end of his career.
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Good point. Forgot about his time in the ATL.
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Lincoln Kennedy was a considered a huge bust for the Falcons (#9 overall in 1996) so it's conceivable that Williams can make a similar transformation.
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For every Lincoln Kennedy there is a Charles McRae, Stan Thomas, Antone Davis . . . etc.
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That seem like more of an argument against taking OT's high in the draft(which I also disagree with) than trying to revive the career of an underperforming high 1st round OT.You have to factor into that equation the team that picks up Williams won't be giving up much in the way of salary to do so and the expectations on him will be as depth at OT/G. Maybe he was underwhelmed with the prospect of playing gaurd in the past but getting cut by a team certainly goes a long way towards teaching one humility.

BUF wasn't criticized for reaching for Williams in the draft. I'd say most people thought he was a top 10 talent so he has the physical tools to at the very least be productive.
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What would make you think WIlliams could be turned into an even adequate guard. The Bills tried that and it was a disaster. I can't imagine Williams trying to block the one gap scheme D Tackles in the league. Guards do not have to be monsters, they have to fire out of their stance, use leverage, and recover well in pass blocking. Williams has none of these attributes.
 
That right tackle spot doesn't even require finesse, just pure mauling ability and in college he certainly showed that. I guess the rumors of his laziness and unreceptiveness to coaching are true.
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oh cmon, we all know talent is all that matters, not attitude. :mellow: Even if I had a dire need at the position, I wouldn't draft the most talented player in the draft if he came with blatant baggage.
 
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