Mikel Leshoure carted off the practice field (2 Viewers)

[Sabertooth]

Not to sound insensitive. But what does this do to Leshoure's dynasty stock. I feel really bad for the kid, the Lions are in my home state and I like what they are doing. That said, his value just plummeted whereas his situation when he returns will be intact. Where do you take him now?

 

[Shutout]

Is Portis a FA?

Yes he is.Lot of noise coming out of Dallas that Choice could be had as well. There IS a trading history between Dallas and Detroit in recent years.Snelling would have been a very logical pick up had he not resigned.Maybe a trade for a bernard Scott or someone on the Patriots...some team that has a guy...Raiders?

 

[DrapedInVelvet]

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. However....I did tear my achilles a few years back so can shed some light on "will he come back the same" question.

The answer, unfortunately, is very unlikely.

There have been no medical advances as someone asked on in the Demaryius Thomas thread. They cut open the skin and fasten the two ends of the tendon back together. Then you are in a cast for 2-4 weeks then a walking boot for another 8 weeks or so. Then painful rehab.

The problem with achilles tears is you lose so much strength in the calf and flexibility in the achilles. Its shocking how fast the muscle deteriorates down there with no activity. Professional athletes clearly come back much better and faster than regular Joe's but if they lose a little speed, quickness, or jumping ability, its takes them down enough compared to their peers that they are "no longer the same player"

In my opinion, it is the kiss of death for an athlete. Elton Brand and Patrick Ewing are examples in the NBA where they never came back quite the same although still decent.

I can't think of any NFL players that had an achilles tear and came back at the same level.

 

[eakfootball]

My new rookie dynasty rankings

1. Ingram

2. Ryan Williams

3. Daniel Thomas

4. Shane Vereen

5. Delone Carter

6. DeMarco Murray

7. Mikel Leshoure

8. Kendall Hunter

9. JaQuizz Rodgers

10. Bilal Powell

11. Alex Green

12. Taiwan Jones

13. Roy Helu

14. Dion Lewis

15. Stevan Ridley

 

[Alluro]

Is Kevin Smith fully recovered? I think it's odd he can't find a landing spot as at least a backup.

 

[FDC]

But what does this do to Leshoure's dynasty stock.

X2

 

[Tony Reali]

I still laugh at people drafting before week 3 of the preseason

 

[HellToupee]

this would have been a good spot for Snelling or McClain

 

[valhallan]

But what does this do to Leshoure's dynasty stock.

X2

It crushes his dynasty stock. We now get to have him sit on our rosters. Too highly regarded to cut, too damaged to trade, and obviously not able to start.

 

[FDC]

In terms of a new rookie draft how much does he drop? I'm thinking late 2nd and I really like him...

 

[valhallan]

I wouldn't waste a pick on him.

Achilles Tendon Rupture Ends Many NFL Careers

An Achilles tendon rupture sends more than one third of National Football League (NFL) players to the sidelines permanently, according to a new study published in Foot & Ankle Specialist. NFL players who do return to the playing field after having suffered an Achilles tendon rupture experience about a 50 percent reduction in their power ratings.

It appears that an Achilles tendon injury lives up to the ancient myth for NFL players. According to the story, Achilles’ mother, Thetis, tried to make her son immortal by dipping him in the river Styx. Her mistake was to hold him by one heel as she dunked him and then neglecting to dip him a second time to get the heel wet. Therefore the untouched part stayed vulnerable. Today, any weak point in the body is called an “Achilles’ heel.”

The Achilles tendon is the strong fibrous cord that connects the muscles of the calf of the leg to the heel bone. If the Achilles tendon is overstretched, it can rupture either partially or completely. A rupture can feel like a snap or pop, followed immediately by a sharp pain in the back of the ankle and lower leg that makes it impossible to walk properly or at all. The pain can be severe, and swelling develops near the heel. Victims of an Achilles tendon rupture are unable to bend the foot downward or to push off the injured leg when they try to walk. With a partial rupture, individuals may still be able to move the foot and the pain and swelling are less severe.

In the new study, investigators wanted to explore the epidemiology of Achilles tendon ruptures among NFL players and determine the impact of these injuries on their performance. Researchers evaluated data on NFL games, statistics, and injuries and identified players who had sustained a complete Achilles tendon rupture. For those players, the researchers compiled information on their position, age, how long they played in the NFL, and performance statistics from both before and after the injury.

The investigators found that nearly 36 percent of players who had suffered a complete Achilles tendon rupture never returned to play in the NFL, and those who did return were never able to meet their pre-injury levels of performance.

Surgery is the treatment for a complete Achilles tendon rupture. According to the Mayo Clinic, the procedure generally involves making an incision in the back of the lower leg and stitching the torn tendon together. Patients need to wear a walking boot, cast, brace or splint for about six to eight weeks post surgery. Rehabilitation involves physical therapy exercises designed to strength the leg muscles and Achilles tendon. Although most people can return to their former activity level within four to six months, this unfortunately is not the case for NFL players who have sustained an Achilles tendon rupture.

 

[FantasyTrader]

In terms of a new rookie draft how much does he drop? I'm thinking late 2nd and I really like him...

Oh he's no second rounder. He's now a complete flyer. Late third - fourth round tops.

 

[Ghost of Bill Walsh]

What about trying to get RB Chad Spann in the supplemental draft ifpossible. Oh yeah, Mike Shanahan & the Redskins have a plethora of RB's. Maybe Ratface would part with one of them like James Davis,Evan Royster or Keiland Williams. I think it'd be a bad move for the Lions to go after Tashard Choice. Ricky Williams might be the best one year option.

 

[adrenaline]

What about trying to get RB Chad Spann in the supplemental draft ifpossible. Oh yeah, Mike Shanahan & the Redskins have a plethora of RB's. Maybe Ratface would part with one of them like James Davis,Evan Royster or Keiland Williams. I think it'd be a bad move for the Lions to go after Tashard Choice. Ricky Williams might be the best one year option.

He signed with the Colts.He signed with the Ravens.

 

[steelcityman]

as a Best owner, I am smiling like a butchers dog!!!

Too bad for LeShoure, I think he could have really helped the Lions score more TD, now looks like M. Morris might get more carries, even some goal lines.

Why in the Galaxy would Dallas trade Choice? Jones is their #1, and he has no history, Choice will end up starting games in Dallas as RB1 this year, so why trade that for a 3rd round pick or something worse? That makes no sense.

 

[BigTex]

Ricky signed with the Ravens.

 

[Touchdown There]

Kevin Smith tears an ACL in 2009 and is promptly replaced via the draft in both 2010 and 2011. Achilles is worse than an ACL. If LeShoure has a full rupture, I will be dropping him in the one dynasty league I own him in. There is no way I want to hold a roster spot for 3 years hoping a guy can overcome such a major injury. Unfortunate. I was a big fan.

 

[FantasyTrader]

As an aside, this can't be horrible news for Pettigrew and the receivers around the goal line.

 

[thriftyrocker]

What about trying to get RB Chad Spann in the supplemental draft ifpossible.

He signed with the Colts.

Spann may not make the Colts roster and get put on the practice squad. The Colts also have Darren Evans. (He wasn't in a supplemental draft, he just wasn't drafted and signed as a UFA). There are still a lot of RBs that can be signed, but the number that can help a lot and help right away are dwindling. Jerome Harrison might be the best bet but he's not as good a compliment to Best as Ricky or Snelling would have been.

 

[Acrobat7]

gonna look this thread up when my rookie pick 4.05 comes along... :-(

 

[De Novo]

I was hoping to grab Best as my #2 with extreme upside in the 4th round or so . Now I will have to grab Best way too early. I can see him jumping to round 2 if he has 1 good pre season game.

Same here. Unless they bring a name in, he's a likely 3rd rounder.

 

[De Novo]

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. However....I did tear my achilles a few years back so can shed some light on "will he come back the same" question.The answer, unfortunately, is very unlikely.There have been no medical advances as someone asked on in the Demaryius Thomas thread. They cut open the skin and fasten the two ends of the tendon back together. Then you are in a cast for 2-4 weeks then a walking boot for another 8 weeks or so. Then painful rehab.The problem with achilles tears is you lose so much strength in the calf and flexibility in the achilles. Its shocking how fast the muscle deteriorates down there with no activity. Professional athletes clearly come back much better and faster than regular Joe's but if they lose a little speed, quickness, or jumping ability, its takes them down enough compared to their peers that they are "no longer the same player"In my opinion, it is the kiss of death for an athlete. Elton Brand and Patrick Ewing are examples in the NBA where they never came back quite the same although still decent. I can't think of any NFL players that had an achilles tear and came back at the same level.

This is correct. One of the primary reasons they don't heal as well is because there's not much blood circulation to the achilles so it heals more slowly and less completely.

 

[solorca]

I was hoping to grab Best as my #2 with extreme upside in the 4th round or so . Now I will have to grab Best way too early. I can see him jumping to round 2 if he has 1 good pre season game.

Same here. Unless they bring a name in, he's a likely 3rd rounder.

Yup. I had him slotted as a good pickup in the fourth, but now I think that his value will jump to high for me to pull the trigger. I picked him last year and was disappointed after the turf toe problem messed up his season, so I probably am not willing to use a 2nd or 3rd rounder on him just yet.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

 

[travdogg]

I was pretty high on Best to begin with(top-15 RB, top-35 overall)but I think its unlikely I'll be drafting him now. I wasn't counting on LeShoure seeing more than 35% of the work,and him being hurt doesn't mean Best will stay healthy, nor does it mean the Lions will improve at run blocking. I think Best is a decent RB2, but the sleeper status is gone now. He's not falling out of the 3rd round.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

LeShoure, Kendricks, Salas, and three 2012 1sts for CJ2K was already a great deal for me...now? Ouch.

 

[lynx4ben]

As for Mikel's dyno value I think a 2nd round pick would be great return. All my drafts were done over a month ago so I'd have to look back to see how I would rank him but I could see him falling to the third. It would be hard to to take the top TEs or the QBs over him now.

 

[heropretend]

Piling in on the negativity... having suffered from achilles ruptures myself, my immediate reaction is most people who play sports aren't stars. Elton Brand was a fully developed near MVP candidate so there was significant room to drop off into. Leshoure is a rookie who is losing development time. I think if he made it back at all, it'd make a good story and everything...but expectations should be way way down.

 

[Touchdown There]

x2

 

[bonesman]

I traded for Best before the NFL draft and am counting on him fairly heavily, and a guy I don't care for has Leshoure and needs him to be startable... But I really hope this isn't an Achilles tear. I hate seeing players, especially young ones, get career threatening injuries.

Nice not seeing any dancing pickles from Best owners. Such an unfortunate situation for a person.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Terrible news for LeShoure - I REALLY thought he had a shot to be great and to actually unseat Best at some point as the main back. His career is definitely in jeopardy now and if he does make it back he's likely looking at a few years in a backup role before retiring from the league. I can't imagine he'll ever recover enough to be a bellcow somewhere.

Terrible news for Lions fans as well. Honestly, if Snelling were still available I think they could've signed him and barely lost a beat... but with FA so picked over, the timing of this is a tough blow.

 

[Touchdown There]

Terrible news for LeShoure - I REALLY thought he had a shot to be great and to actually unseat Best at some point as the main back. His career is definitely in jeopardy now and if he does make it back he's likely looking at a few years in a backup role before retiring from the league. I can't imagine he'll ever recover enough to be a bellcow somewhere.Terrible news for Lions fans as well. Honestly, if Snelling were still available I think they could've signed him and barely lost a beat... but with FA so picked over, the timing of this is a tough blow.

It is not out of the question that the Falcons trade Snelling for another player or a pick. They really like Quizz and I am sure Snelling would be up for it.

 

[Detroit Revival]

As a Lions fan I am devastated. Leshoure was a promising talent. That's an injury I wouldn't wish upon an enemy. My prayers will go out to him for sure. Here's hoping for a full recovery.

 

[eakfootball]

I traded for Best before the NFL draft and am counting on him fairly heavily, and a guy I don't care for has Leshoure and needs him to be startable... But I really hope this isn't an Achilles tear. I hate seeing players, especially young ones, get career threatening injuries.

Nice not seeing any dancing pickles from Best owners. Such an unfortunate situation for a person.

Yeah, I was expecting to see 5 or 6 of those.

 

[domvin]

Leshoure was one guy I thought was undervalued......a guy I could snag and possibly be better than his rookie ADP of 1.7/1.8, and ascend over those expectations.

I traded up in 3 leagues to take him. Now, I do own Best in 2 of those leagues, so i was a bit forced, but man, sucks for that guy. I really felt he was gonna be a stud.

I am bummed ...

 

[Buclove]

put Megatron in the backfield to run the ball

 

[werdnoynek]

Terrible news for LeShoure - I REALLY thought he had a shot to be great and to actually unseat Best at some point as the main back. His career is definitely in jeopardy now and if he does make it back he's likely looking at a few years in a backup role before retiring from the league. I can't imagine he'll ever recover enough to be a bellcow somewhere.Terrible news for Lions fans as well. Honestly, if Snelling were still available I think they could've signed him and barely lost a beat... but with FA so picked over, the timing of this is a tough blow.

It is not out of the question that the Falcons trade Snelling for another player or a pick. They really like Quizz and I am sure Snelling would be up for it.

snelling and best dont really compliment eachother, they're actually pretty similar. i think the lions would be looking for a big, powerful, inside running rb to compliment best. who that will be... no idea. snelling just doesn't fit that profile at all.

 

[nysportsfan]

Awful news, you gotta feel for the kid. Would've been a great spot for Michael Bush, too bad he signed.

 

[Touchdown There]

Terrible news for LeShoure - I REALLY thought he had a shot to be great and to actually unseat Best at some point as the main back. His career is definitely in jeopardy now and if he does make it back he's likely looking at a few years in a backup role before retiring from the league. I can't imagine he'll ever recover enough to be a bellcow somewhere.Terrible news for Lions fans as well. Honestly, if Snelling were still available I think they could've signed him and barely lost a beat... but with FA so picked over, the timing of this is a tough blow.

It is not out of the question that the Falcons trade Snelling for another player or a pick. They really like Quizz and I am sure Snelling would be up for it.

snelling and best dont really compliment eachother, they're actually pretty similar. i think the lions would be looking for a big, powerful, inside running rb to compliment best. who that will be... no idea. snelling just doesn't fit that profile at all.

Snelling is 225 pounds and Best is all speed 195. They are not similar at all. Snelling and Leshoure are much more similar. Right now their options seem to be Kevin Smith, Jerome Harrison, or trade for another guy. I am not sure Kevin Smith and the Lions see eye to eye. Harrison is just small as Best.

 

[Dragon1952]

I still laugh at people drafting before week 3 of the preseason

This has been discussed before. If you wait until week 3 of the preseason then every Joe Blow knows what's up, so those that study their butt's off all off-season lose their advantage of identifying sleepers.... among other related reasons. So just as many (or more) people will laugh at you.

 

[finito]

D. Thomas may be a good test case to see what the long term prognosis is for LeShoure.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

crud...just drafted LeShoure at 1.7 yesterday

Well that makes me feel better, atleast I wasn't the only one

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Ben tate in 2010, LeShoure in 2011, just not right

 

[ATC1]

Ben tate in 2010, LeShoure in 2011, just not right

Hardesty as well.

 

[blackbird001]

I still laugh at people drafting before week 3 of the preseason

This has been discussed before. If you wait until week 3 of the preseason then every Joe Blow knows what's up, so those that study their butt's off all off-season lose their advantage of identifying sleepers.... among other related reasons. So just as many (or more) people will laugh at you.

It has been, but there hasn't been a good enough case made for the early draft. I do offseason research and I've got a list of sleepers at all times, and that list changes as things develop in camp. There are always sleepers at every stage of the offseason. When one guy is lost to hype, another is unearthed.Plus, offseason info is sketchy at best. You get better intel during the preseason. With all the information flowing, there is no way the average joe blow is able to keep up. Only the most obvious (the Arian Fosters and Ray Rices) really make ADP leaps between the week before preseason games and after the third game.

Different Strokes for different folks. I prefer dynasty to seasonal and as such I prefer drafting a month after the NFL draft. You get to see where guys go and assess situational factors that elevate or deflate a players stock. I think its more of a challenge and keeps lazy or dumb owners from succeeding. You really have to scout guys from college and develop your draft plan from research. Yeah, its more work. Does it suck when a guy goes down in camp or a preseason game? Sure, but that injury or development could just as easily occur in week 1 (ala Ryan Grant or Kevin Kolb). Drafting later is fine for seasonal leagues, but for dynasty guys, drafting early is more challenging and thus rewarding when your guy develops.LeShoure is a tough break. I was so close to getting him in my draft this summer. I don't think this elevates Best. Maybe temporarily, but it should be obvious by now that he can't handle a full load. He's ideal in a 10-15 touch workload and he's explosive enough to make those count. But anyone hoping for 20+ touches is gonna end up with another turf toed RB on his/her bench, IMO.

 

[T with T]

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. However....I did tear my achilles a few years back so can shed some light on "will he come back the same" question.The answer, unfortunately, is very unlikely.There have been no medical advances as someone asked on in the Demaryius Thomas thread. They cut open the skin and fasten the two ends of the tendon back together. Then you are in a cast for 2-4 weeks then a walking boot for another 8 weeks or so. Then painful rehab.The problem with achilles tears is you lose so much strength in the calf and flexibility in the achilles. Its shocking how fast the muscle deteriorates down there with no activity. Professional athletes clearly come back much better and faster than regular Joe's but if they lose a little speed, quickness, or jumping ability, its takes them down enough compared to their peers that they are "no longer the same player"In my opinion, it is the kiss of death for an athlete. Elton Brand and Patrick Ewing are examples in the NBA where they never came back quite the same although still decent. I can't think of any NFL players that had an achilles tear and came back at the same level.

This is correct. One of the primary reasons they don't heal as well is because there's not much blood circulation to the achilles so it heals more slowly and less completely.

Yes I know this sucks... I drafted in 6.9 and was really lookin forward to seeing him run. I have him in 2 leagues and Have Best in one of them, but was hopin on him being my RB3 this year behind J.Charles/R. Matthews.... Only gonna hurt me in one league cuz I have him in 2 but Have Best/Leshoure in one so this should boost best. as a lions fan Im disappointed.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Oh Lions...

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Ok, so who do they bring in...they need someone at RB.

 

[ex-ghost]

Ok, so who do they bring in...they need someone at RB.

Kevin Smith?

 

[shortbow]

Im thinking Jerome Harrison