Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
And a dullard.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
Illusory superiority.And a dullard.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
What is your point?Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
Watching Steve Young talk on TV isnt any "illusion". (Though I agree he may be deluding himself)It's akin to watching Emmit Smith. Who amazingly has a bachorlette in ... public recreation.Illusory superiority.And a dullard.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
Im guessing... that what they mean is...They dont want Steve Young as a talking head for football -- just as they dont want Matt Millen running the front office of their favorite team.But when you pair them up as talking heads, Steve Young is horrendous, even worse then Millen.Being constantly under-prepared and talking too much does not = "mental toddler." He's just bad at that job and I don't know why ESPN keeps him around. The odds are pretty good that Steve Young is smarter than the people that are disparaging him in this thread, but what do I know...maybe you guys are all mensa members. Still, anyone who says "Millen is my new hero" in regards to anything that involves football just seriously undermined their credibility.
Millen stood up for common sense. Everyone else lets Young blabber endlessly without EVER calling him out. I'd say he's temporary-hero material.As for Young being smarter than me...it's doubtful, but possible. The difference is that I don't go on TV and speak over everyone when it's not my turn, showing no respect to the analysts who actually back up their opinions with some thought and/or facts.Being constantly under-prepared and talking too much does not = "mental toddler." He's just bad at that job and I don't know why ESPN keeps him around. The odds are pretty good that Steve Young is smarter than the people that are disparaging him in this thread, but what do I know...maybe you guys are all mensa members. Still, anyone who says "Millen is my new hero" in regards to anything that involves football just seriously undermined their credibility.
Millen is very good studio analyst. He was just a terrible GM. He also might have been handcuffed by the Fords who are known meddlers.
Bingo! :XIm guessing... that what they mean is...They dont want Steve Young as a talking head for football -- just as they dont want Matt Millen running the front office of their favorite team.But when you pair them up as talking heads, Steve Young is horrendous, even worse then Millen.Being constantly under-prepared and talking too much does not = "mental toddler." He's just bad at that job and I don't know why ESPN keeps him around. The odds are pretty good that Steve Young is smarter than the people that are disparaging him in this thread, but what do I know...maybe you guys are all mensa members. Still, anyone who says "Millen is my new hero" in regards to anything that involves football just seriously undermined their credibility.
Steve Young is a prime example why the NFL should take protective measures against concussions, and also why the NFL shouldn't let victims become analysts.Millen is just an idiot.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
Watching Steve Young talk on TV isnt any "illusion". (Though I agree he may be deluding himself)It's akin to watching Emmit Smith. Who amazingly has a bachorlette in ... public recreation.Illusory superiority.And a dullard.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.![]()
He was only one of the best QB's to ever play the game. He was a monumental success at every level and holds a law degree from J Reuben Clark, ranked 8th in the nation by Princeton Review. Where is your law degree from?He's anything but an idiot.And a dullard.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
I think Millen didn't need any additional help being a terrible GM.Millen is very good studio analyst. He was just a terrible GM. He also might have been handcuffed by the Fords who are known meddlers.
I think Millen didn't need any additional help being a terrible GM.Millen is very good studio analyst. He was just a terrible GM. He also might have been handcuffed by the Fords who are known meddlers.
I like them both. I actually used to love Millen as the color guy calling games.Millen is very good studio analyst. He was just a terrible GM. He also might have been handcuffed by the Fords who are known meddlers.I don't understand the anti-Millen vitriol...he's been pretty solid as an analyst.Young...not so much.
Concussions have wrecked this man. Listen to him speak.He was only one of the best QB's to ever play the game. He was a monumental success at every level and holds a law degree from J Reuben Clark, ranked 8th in the nation by Princeton Review. Where is your law degree from?He's anything but an idiot.And a dullard.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
HFS!Too many to post.I don't think it's fair to compare ANYONE to Emmitt, he coined a these wonderful comments:
Here is the full list, if you have never read it... do yourself a favor and read it.
http://packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.ph...9ea9371ca05a937
Steve Young is accomplished. So is Emmit Smith.He was only one of the best QB's to ever play the game. He was a monumental success at every level and holds a law degree from J Reuben Clark, ranked 8th in the nation by Princeton Review. Where is your law degree from?He's anything but an idiot.And a dullard.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
To quote Bill Parcells, "You are who your record says you are." In Millen's case, that translates into the complete loss of credibility on any football related conversations.After his playing career, Millen was President and CEO of the Detroit Lions from 2001 until 2008. His eight-year tenure as head of the franchise led to the worst eight-year record in the history of the modern NFL (31-97), and resulted in his termination on September 24, 2008.
Millen wasn't just the GM with an 0-16 team. From Wikipedia :
To quote Bill Parcells, "You are who your record says you are." In Millen's case, that translates into the complete loss of credibility on any football related conversations.After his playing career, Millen was President and CEO of the Detroit Lions from 2001 until 2008. His eight-year tenure as head of the franchise led to the worst eight-year record in the history of the modern NFL (31-97), and resulted in his termination on September 24, 2008.
:whoosh: He was so godawful running that franchise I no longer want to listen to him talk football.Millen wasn't just the GM with an 0-16 team. From Wikipedia :
To quote Bill Parcells, "You are who your record says you are." In Millen's case, that translates into the complete loss of credibility on any football related conversations.After his playing career, Millen was President and CEO of the Detroit Lions from 2001 until 2008. His eight-year tenure as head of the franchise led to the worst eight-year record in the history of the modern NFL (31-97), and resulted in his termination on September 24, 2008.
Funny, I thought that was kind of a "I'd love to make fun of him for being such a horrible GM, but I probably shouldn't embarrass a fellow co-worker on TV like that" kind of laugh. Young is not my favorite analyst, but Millen is just horrible now.Best part of that clip is Young smiling nervously afterwards trying to play it off like he thought it was funny after getting owned.
Funny, I thought that was kind of a "I'd love to make fun of him for being such a horrible GM, but I probably shouldn't embarrass a fellow co-worker on TV like that" kind of laugh. Young is not my favorite analyst, but Millen is just horrible now.
Isn't he Polish all the time?How is Millen still on TV?
I still remember when he made fun of Ron Jaworski for being Polish during the draft.
Woz has a law degree.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
Meh, they're both terrible. I'm not sure who's worse. Steve Young used to just seem like he showed up with zero prep and contributed very little. Now for whatever reason he interrupts and talks a lot more, but it's still not any good. On the other hand, to steal Florio's material, Matt Millen opens his mouth and all I can hear is "I guided a franchise to an 0-16 season. I'm widely regarded as one of the worst GMs of all time. Why should anyone care about my opinions on players?" Then, if I can get myself past that to hear what he's really saying, (surprise!) it's generally worthless. I will honestly look for the Spanish simulcast instead of listening to that Thursday night booth anymore...and no, I don't really know much Spanish.Im guessing... that what they mean is...They dont want Steve Young as a talking head for football -- just as they dont want Matt Millen running the front office of their favorite team.But when you pair them up as talking heads, Steve Young is horrendous, even worse then Millen.Being constantly under-prepared and talking too much does not = "mental toddler." He's just bad at that job and I don't know why ESPN keeps him around. The odds are pretty good that Steve Young is smarter than the people that are disparaging him in this thread, but what do I know...maybe you guys are all mensa members. Still, anyone who says "Millen is my new hero" in regards to anything that involves football just seriously undermined their credibility.
It would take someone such as Young to acheive such a thing. His accomplishments are many indeed.I remember the first time I saw Millen, after the Lions, in the booth with a mic'... a true WTF moment.I know Young is not easy to watch as an analyst but how can anyone ever take Matt Millens side on anything.
Was he even able to figure out how to turn the mic on? That guy is a buffoon. He doesnt have two brain cells to rub together. Geesh!It would take someone such as Young to acheive such a thing. His accomplishments are many indeed.I remember the first time I saw Millen, after the Lions, in the booth with a mic'... a true WTF moment.I know Young is not easy to watch as an analyst but how can anyone ever take Matt Millens side on anything.![]()
I come away from that thinking Millen, although he may be a better analyst, completely lost his cool and acted like an angry roided meathead jock. Not a good moment for him.It would take someone such as Young to acheive such a thing. His accomplishments are many indeed.I remember the first time I saw Millen, after the Lions, in the booth with a mic'... a true WTF moment.I know Young is not easy to watch as an analyst but how can anyone ever take Matt Millens side on anything.![]()
And a boatload of concussions. Regardless, some of the dumbest people I've ever met were in law school.Steve Young has a law degree.Millen should not have a job. Steve Young makes Paula Abdul sound like a Rhodes Scholar.
Too much of peoples' perceptions of Millen's work as an analyst is colored by their perception of him as a GM. I actually think he's a pretty good analyst and I like listening to him. Young just babbles. I honestly think Young is brain damaged, no shtick. He can't string two thoughts together coherently without veering off into something else and interrupting himself. It's annoying as hell, and even more so that he does it at full volume and is interrupting people and even arguing with people. He needs to be on a leash wearing a helmet at this point.Millen needs to be locked in a closet for about thirty years.