Minor rule changes (1 Viewer)

[RowdyDude]

Our league rules are that the entire lineup is due 5 miutes prior to the first kickoff. Yesterday 30 minutes before the first kickoff the commish changes it to only player playing on thursday have to be in the rest isnt due till 5 minutes prior to sundays game. Now this really didnt impact me and as far as i can tell it doesnt help the commish. My question is should i ##### about this or let it slide. To me rules are rules and if you can change a minor rule it isnt too far a stretch to changing major rules. The commish reasoning was that the injury report was confusing people and the # of games was more then in the past (fairly weak).

any thoughts

 

[Yitbos69]

I think it is a good move. It would seem fair given not knowing the status of some players for Sundays games. In ALL my leagues it is a game by game deadline(which really only makes a difference with Thursday games or if you have too late players and not sure if one is going to play).

 

[GregR_2]

Our league rules are that the entire lineup is due 5 miutes prior to the first kickoff. Yesterday 30 minutes before the first kickoff the commish changes it to only player playing on thursday have to be in the rest isnt due till 5 minutes prior to sundays game. Now this really didnt impact me and as far as i can tell it doesnt help the commish. My question is should i ##### about this or let it slide. To me rules are rules and if you can change a minor rule it isnt too far a stretch to changing major rules. The commish reasoning was that the injury report was confusing people and the # of games was more then in the past (fairly weak). any thoughts

While it may be comforting to say "you should never change the rules during the season" since it is black and white and easy to apply, there are also times as a commish that you can see some short-sightedness with the rules where a change would be better. My stance on it as a commish is that if I see such a thing I'll suggest changing the rules so long as it doesn't create an unfair change (i.e. changing the scoring system after the draft). Even then, it has to have unanimous support (or as is more likely the case, enough ambivalence that no one objects). Things like scoring changes, lineup changes, etc, shouldn't take place mid season. Something like noticing a new feature on the league website that turning it on will improve the league, and won't be unfair to anyone, is probably a good change and an example of your commish doing a good job.I don't see anyone would want to ##### about this particular change. It seems to me like a very good rule and one that you should have had in place long before now. The only thing I might say about it is that it shouldn't have come out 30 minutes before kickoff, as some people might not have had time to see it and would be locked into a Thursday guy that they only put in because of uncertainty around their Sunday players that they couldn't make a decision on right now.If you want to bring up a public discussion of under what situations it is ok to change rules and when it isn't, so everyone is on the same page and consciously thinking about it, that's probably a good thing. And given the short timing of this change, perhaps a very good thing. But I don't think you need to argue against any changes at all from a slippery slope perspective. Just clarify under what circumstances they shouldn't be ok. Hopefully you have chosen a commish who has decent enough judgment for these kind of things.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Our league rules are that the entire lineup is due 5 miutes prior to the first kickoff. Yesterday 30 minutes before the first kickoff the commish changes it to only player playing on thursday have to be in the rest isnt due till 5 minutes prior to sundays game. Now this really didnt impact me and as far as i can tell it doesnt help the commish. My question is should i ##### about this or let it slide. To me rules are rules and if you can change a minor rule it isnt too far a stretch to changing major rules. The commish reasoning was that the injury report was confusing people and the # of games was more then in the past (fairly weak). any thoughts

While it may be comforting to say "you should never change the rules during the season" since it is black and white and easy to apply, there are also times as a commish that you can see some short-sightedness with the rules where a change would be better. My stance on it as a commish is that if I see such a thing I'll suggest changing the rules so long as it doesn't create an unfair change (i.e. changing the scoring system after the draft). Even then, it has to have unanimous support (or as is more likely the case, enough ambivalence that no one objects). Things like scoring changes, lineup changes, etc, shouldn't take place mid season. Something like noticing a new feature on the league website that turning it on will improve the league, and won't be unfair to anyone, is probably a good change and an example of your commish doing a good job.I don't see anyone would want to ##### about this particular change. It seems to me like a very good rule and one that you should have had in place long before now. The only thing I might say about it is that it shouldn't have come out 30 minutes before kickoff, as some people might not have had time to see it and would be locked into a Thursday guy that they only put in because of uncertainty around their Sunday players that they couldn't make a decision on right now.If you want to bring up a public discussion of under what situations it is ok to change rules and when it isn't, so everyone is on the same page and consciously thinking about it, that's probably a good thing. And given the short timing of this change, perhaps a very good thing. But I don't think you need to argue against any changes at all from a slippery slope perspective. Just clarify under what circumstances they shouldn't be ok. Hopefully you have chosen a commish who has decent enough judgment for these kind of things.

I don't think it is fair to change it 30 minutes before as many people may not even see it. I think it is OK if you poll the league days in advance in seeing something that is shortsighted, but if you are in a league for the long haul these rules should be corrected and updated yearly and this shouldn't happen

 

[Gravedigger]

Gotta disagree.

The number of times I've seen an owner, myself included, go off on some hair-brained concept to 'give them an edge' makes the rules shifting a terrible idea in almost any form.

What if someone drafted DAL players only because they have back to back Thursday games and he'd have no problem knowing who to slot? It gives him an edge if the rules state the rest of the players have to be in a line-up 4 days before the game starts.

Is the rule a bad one? It doesn't matter in the slightest. Someone could have thought they were getting an advantage and you just took their game-planning away.

I'd suggest something that has worked for us well: All rules changes are voted on at the end of the season and 2/3rds are needed to implement.

For an emergency use rule, which happens, the Commish has to get on the horn and get ALL owners to agree to a rule change if they attempt to cut it in mid season. Otherwise, it has to wait until the end of the year.

A Commish who makes changes at whim is a commish I stay away from. I once drafted my entire team based on my fantasy schedule. When the commish 're-organized' it so that we could all make certain to play each other once, I was seriously irritated.

A HUGE part of winning fantasy football is understanding that leagues rules and game-planning them. While this particular issue might not be a big deal, there is simply no reason to change something in mid-season unless it's a true 'oh crap' and the entire league agrees.

 

[captbly]

Our league rules are that the entire lineup is due 5 miutes prior to the first kickoff. Yesterday 30 minutes before the first kickoff the commish changes it to only player playing on thursday have to be in the rest isnt due till 5 minutes prior to sundays game. Now this really didnt impact me and as far as i can tell it doesnt help the commish. My question is should i ##### about this or let it slide. To me rules are rules and if you can change a minor rule it isnt too far a stretch to changing major rules. The commish reasoning was that the injury report was confusing people and the # of games was more then in the past (fairly weak). any thoughts

moving it from 5 minutes to 30 mins for the thursday games is the part that I think is wrong. You might be waiting closer to kick off only to come and set your line up with 10 mins left.....but are locked from doing so.

 

[mozzy84]

what the commish did is not a big deal at all imo, if you want to be one of those whinny owners it's in your rights though.

 

[mozzy84]

Our league rules are that the entire lineup is due 5 miutes prior to the first kickoff. Yesterday 30 minutes before the first kickoff the commish changes it to only player playing on thursday have to be in the rest isnt due till 5 minutes prior to sundays game. Now this really didnt impact me and as far as i can tell it doesnt help the commish. My question is should i ##### about this or let it slide. To me rules are rules and if you can change a minor rule it isnt too far a stretch to changing major rules. The commish reasoning was that the injury report was confusing people and the # of games was more then in the past (fairly weak). any thoughts

moving it from 5 minutes to 30 mins for the thursday games is the part that I think is wrong. You might be waiting closer to kick off only to come and set your line up with 10 mins left.....but are locked from doing so.

pretty sure he meant he changed the rule 30 mins before kickoff, it was still 5 mins.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Gotta disagree.The number of times I've seen an owner, myself included, go off on some hair-brained concept to 'give them an edge' makes the rules shifting a terrible idea in almost any form.What if someone drafted DAL players only because they have back to back Thursday games and he'd have no problem knowing who to slot? It gives him an edge if the rules state the rest of the players have to be in a line-up 4 days before the game starts.Is the rule a bad one? It doesn't matter in the slightest. Someone could have thought they were getting an advantage and you just took their game-planning away.I'd suggest something that has worked for us well: All rules changes are voted on at the end of the season and 2/3rds are needed to implement.For an emergency use rule, which happens, the Commish has to get on the horn and get ALL owners to agree to a rule change if they attempt to cut it in mid season. Otherwise, it has to wait until the end of the year.A Commish who makes changes at whim is a commish I stay away from. I once drafted my entire team based on my fantasy schedule. When the commish 're-organized' it so that we could all make certain to play each other once, I was seriously irritated.A HUGE part of winning fantasy football is understanding that leagues rules and game-planning them. While this particular issue might not be a big deal, there is simply no reason to change something in mid-season unless it's a true 'oh crap' and the entire league agrees.

 

[The Sniper]

"I don't see anyone would want to ##### about this particular change. "

You don't?!! I think it's pretty easy to see how someone could be disadvantaged by this rule change. What if my opponent has a player that is questionable to play this week? Giving him time to read the reports on Thursday and Friday practices gives him better information to make a decision on Sunday. Wouldn't you agree?

All rule changes should be voted on no later than a month after the season ends. That way everything is fresh in mind and any approved changes can be kept in mind during offseason strategizing. A big pet peeve of mine is commissioners who solicit rule changes for a vote 5 minutes before the draft is to begin.

 

[renesauz]

While I understand the arguments about changing rules mid-season....it's pretty obvious that this particular case was simple oversight. I mean...it's easy to write a rule saying lineups are due 5 minutes before the first game...but FORGET that there are Thursday games late in the season.

This is a non-issue. The same guys complaining about this rules change probably think that the Cleveland FG should have remained NO GOOD too, since it wasn't eligable for booth review.