Misfits 'n Outlaws Xtreme FFL-IV Draft (1 Viewer)

[EBF]

My team through nine roundsonovan McNabb (2.09)Ben Roethlisberger (6.09)Kevin Jones (1.06)Travis Henry (3.06)Cedric Cobbs (7.06)Anquan Boldin (4.09)Hines Ward (5.06)Isaac Bruce (8.09)Donte Stallworth (9.06)I love the Bruce pick. Yes he's old and could break down at any moment, but he's still a good value in the eighth. Keenan McCardell, Rod Smith, Jimmy Smith, Jerry Rice, and Tim Brown, have shown recently that WRs can remain productive into their mid-late thirties. When you consider how early Harrison and Horn went in this draft, I think dinosaur Bruce was a solid value. Stallworth is a risk, but he makes a lot of sense as a WR4 in a dynasty league. All in all, I like my team. The only real concern is RB depth, where I may have to pull a rabbit out of my hat. It's my personal opinion that the RB talent has been greatly overvalued in this draft. So far I've been content to mostly sit back and pick a lot of non-RBs who stood out as good values.

 

[EBF]

Donovan McNabb (2.09)Ben Roethlisberger (6.09)Kevin Jones (1.06)Travis Henry (3.06)Cedric Cobbs (7.06)Anquan Boldin (4.09)Hines Ward (5.06)Isaac Bruce (8.09)Donte Stallworth (9.06)Antonio Bryant (10.09)Darius Watts (11.06)

Through eleven rounds.

 

[coolnerd]

I'm in VI, not VII, but do not see a supposed advantage in 5 owners sharing a team. Communication issues and differing opinions would possibly hamper the team. What 5 facets to FF would they look at... 1. Draft, 2. Trades, 3 Weekly line-ups, 4. Waiver moves, 5. Future drafts?? If I'm set on starting Keary Colbert vs the Saints and you like Eric Parker vs the Chiefs who wins?? I like being the GM, the dictator, and I think I can make more efficient decisions this way. The comittee approach will be able to collect more info, but can it be processed into anything that makes the team better off? I'm interested in the experiment (and I prefer The Syndicate as a team name...much more sinister.)Good luck and please post how it goes.

I have played against one team that I knew was some sort of tandom if not committee. We were in negioation for a trade and every little monor variation took took a vote from the group. When I asked them for a final offer because they had to find time to get together it took like a week to 10 days just to get them all to agree and by that time i went on and accepted another offer because it was difficult to deal with those guys. They finished 4th or 5th overall in the league and basically over though tevery waiver wire and line-up decision. That's my experience with playing against a committee team.

 

[ravnzfan]

I'd like the group to consist of 5 guys, all equal in ownership and power, with some system in place to facilitate final decisionmaking.

From the Misfit and Outlaw Xtreme FFL Rules:1.3--Ownership of more than 1 team is forbidden, however, 1 franchise can have 2 co-owners.

I intentionally included this to:

a)forbid the obvious....you can't own 2 teams and swap players between the 2

b)requiring any more than 1 other opinion WOULD be a logistical nightmare for drafting the vets, rookies, working trades--this puts a tremendous stress on the other owners in the league

I admire the desire to bring such a forward thinking idea to the table, but I would lobby long and hard to keep this rule intact

 

[Couch Potato]

I'd like the group to consist of 5 guys, all equal in ownership and power, with some system in place to facilitate final decisionmaking.

From the Misfit and Outlaw Xtreme FFL Rules:1.3--Ownership of more than 1 team is forbidden, however, 1 franchise can have 2 co-owners.

I intentionally included this to:

a)forbid the obvious....you can't own 2 teams and swap players between the 2

b)requiring any more than 1 other opinion WOULD be a logistical nightmare for drafting the vets, rookies, working trades--this puts a tremendous stress on the other owners in the league

I admire the desire to bring such a forward thinking idea to the table, but I would lobby long and hard to keep this rule intact

I wasn't aware of the max 2-owner rule. Oh well. It would have been something different to try.No need to lobby long and hard. You're too old to use up so much energy. I'm OK with the rule and the commish saying no.

 

[fatness]

It looks like The Draft is in the 12th round now. Some pretty decent receivers were taken in the 10th and 11th rounds.

 

[EBF]

I just picked up Michael Jenkins at 12.09. I don't particularly like his talent and he seems to be stuck on a running team, but his long term potential warrants a WR57 draft spot.

 

[hacman]

You're getting excellent value on your receivers, EBF. Some nice chips to play with. I really like Donte' in the 10th. I think he started to turn the corner as far as the mental approach on what it takes to play in the league. I think next year he'll be able to let his rare abilities take over.

 

[EBF]

You're getting excellent value on your receivers, EBF. Some nice chips to play with. I really like Donte' in the 10th. I think he started to turn the corner as far as the mental approach on what it takes to play in the league. I think next year he'll be able to let his rare abilities take over.

Thanks. I drafted seven straight WRs before selecting the Jacksonville D at 15.06. Here they are:8.09 - Isaac Bruce WR339.06 - Donte Stallworth WR3510.09 - Antonio Bryant WR4311.06 - Darius Watts WR4812.09 - Michael Jenkins WR5713.06 - Andre Davis WR5914.09 - Devery Henderson WR66Looking at recent history, I believe Isaac Bruce can maintain a high level of play for 2-3 more seasons. I knew that I could probably land some long terms WRs in subsequent rounds, so taking Bruce over S. Moss at 8.09 wasn't an extremely tough choice. I like my Stallworth pick because he's already a good WR4 and he has the potential to some day be a WR1 or a WR2. I took Antonio Bryant because I thought he had the best combination of short term and long term prospects of any of the receivers left on the board. I don't know that he has freakish talent, but he's done fairly well at every opportunity and he was a real star in college. I'm concerned that a healthy Winslow will hurt Bryant's value, but even the best TEs tend to be up and down. Bryant should get his. Darius Watts is a guy that I had fairly high on my list from the start of this draft. I thought he was a horrible pick when the Broncos took him in the draft, but he did well in the preseason and I was impressed with him when I saw him on TV. I don't know that he has star potential, but he's shown fairly well so far and the clock is ticking on Rod Smith. Michael Jenkins was chosen for his long term potential. I'm hoping that he can eventually emerge as someone's #1 WR. I'm not necessarily wild about him, but a sophomore first round pick seemed like a great pickup as the 57th WR taken. He didn't raise any eyebrows as a rookie, but that's pretty common. Some guys take a while. If he doesn't pan out, no big deal. I didn't use a high pick on him. I was happy to get Andre Davis in the 13th round. He was on pace for a 1,000 yard season last year before he got hurt. That was all on a team with a poor passing attack. The new coaching regime could turn things around. Either way, between Davis and Antonio Bryant, I should have Cleveland's #1 WR. Both guys have decent short term depth prospects and each could emerge as a 1,000+ yard guy. Devery Henderson was another guy drafted for long term potential. Two of his four catches in the preseason were for 40+ yards. He's still raw, but he has some nice physical skills and between he and Stallworth, I have a pretty good chance of getting the next #1 WR in New Orleans. You might wonder why I took so many WRs and so few RBs. My opinion is that the RB value virtually evaporates after the first 30-35 backs are taken. Beyond that point, nearly any RB pick is a reach. I liked guys like Cedric Cobbs, Chris Perry, and LaMont Jordan, but I didn't want to reach for them when vastly superior WR talents were on the board. I did end up taking Cobbs in the 7th simply because I felt he was worth that draft slot and because I'd already established a good foundation at QB and WR. I didn't draft any QBs after McNabb and Roethlisberger because I didn't think it was in the best interest of my team. The reason I took two elite young QBs early in the draft was so that I could focus later picks on taking undervalued young WRs.I felt that WR was where the value was in rounds 8-15. I think the players I selected in those rounds are far more likely to develop into contributors than RBs like Antowain Smith, Verron Haynes, and Maurice Hicks (who all went in the same range). This is why I always bash that miminal WR theory stuff. WR is where the value is late in dynasty drafts. Sure, Watts, Jenkins, Bryant, Davis, and Henderson might all be busts in the long run, but I think they are much better statistical bets to give me something than nearly all of the RBs and QBs who went in the same range. We're talking about four second round NFL talents and one first round NFL talent. I'd much rather try my luck with them than draft some scrub RB. That's just me. Maybe my stubborness will cost me. I doubt it. My one concern with my WRs is that I don't think I have a future TO/Moss type player. I have a lot of talented WRs, but I don't have any guys who stand out as absolute beasts. I more have a lot of guys who figure to fall in the WR10-20 range. I had hoped to land someone like Tyrone Calico to add a little upside to the group, but he was taken earlier than where I was willing to take him.

 

[ravnzfan]

w/McNabb at QB, along w/Henry and KJ, you have a strong neucleus to build aroundthe down side to only having Cobb on the roster is:--bye weeks...Cobb will have to start in place of 1 of the other 2--EBFholdingbreathhere...injurymany teams can ride the storm that goes along w/an injury...this will really limit your possibilities, if it were to occurthis comes from the proud owner of Ricky freakin' Williams, drafted 1.10 in last years Misfit III draft, followed by Harrison and TO--also own Clayton, Shockey, McCardell...the only other viable starter @RB drafted to this team was Duce Staley, leaving me w/a starting backfield of DRhodes and ASmith, on weeks when the Edge and Chrissy Brown were healthy, in the middle of the seasonI lost 1 game by 6 points, when those 2 RB's scored a whopping 1.8 for me! not having a legit RB3 can come back and haunt you... ...I knowthe good news is that because of our playoff format, a team that might struggle to get some W's still has a shot at the 2 Wild card spots, given to the 2 highest scoringteams left, regardless of record...we did have a 4-9 team qualify 2 years ago, FYI

 

[EBF]

It was a conscious decision to draft only a few RBs. Like I said, I just didn't see any value there. I wasn't going to pass up great players at other positions so that I could draft guys like Duce Staley. My experience with dynasty leagues is that you should mainly focus on filling out the starting lineup and then draft talented players with long term potential. I think that's what I did. In a perfect world I would've been able to get a couple more good RBs, but they were valued so highly in this draft that it just never made sense to take them where they were going. This league is so big that you can probably be one of the better teams without a viable option at RB2. Obviously I hope to field two top 15 backs, but if something goes wrong then I think I still have plenty of talent elsewhere to remain competitive.

 

[ravnzfan]

Larry Johnson at 1.12 absolutely blew me away.Yes he filled in admirably for Padre down the stretch,but there is so much uncertainity in KC right now at the RB position.  XXXXXXXX or XXXXXXX would have been a safer pick there but that's just my opinion.......

ah yes...waited 11 months for this one!"and the leading scorer week 1 of the '05 playoffs...."

Larry Johnson...35.10, as he led the LONGSHOTZ to a 109.36-95.46 victory over the #2 scoring team in our league

thought I might have to wait a year for this team, but w/Westy out (I took Moats in the rookie draft), we have a decent chance to win a couple games and make the finals---whoo hoooo!

 

[Raiders Fan]

Larry Johnson at 1.12 absolutely blew me away.Yes he filled in admirably for Padre down the stretch,but there is so much uncertainity in KC right now at the RB position.  XXXXXXXX or XXXXXXX would have been a safer pick there but that's just my opinion.......

ah yes...waited 11 months for this one!"and the leading scorer week 1 of the '05 playoffs...."

Larry Johnson...35.10, as he led the LONGSHOTZ to a 109.36-95.46 victory over the #2 scoring team in our league

thought I might have to wait a year for this team, but w/Westy out (I took Moats in the rookie draft), we have a decent chance to win a couple games and make the finals---whoo hoooo!

That pick there was insane.. Yes it worked out in the playoffs but how did that team make the playoffs?? All the early round picks were busts..