Mizzou Prez Forced to Resign for....? (1 Viewer)

[Doug B]

What's confounding to me is how so many of these protestors/tweeters have just totally given up on inclusiveness, equality, and the idea of people being held to common standards. "Content of their character" as an iconic figure once said. These protestors are so positive that, no, we actually can't all get together and sing "kumbaya" -- so why bother to try and get along at all? Better to browbeat, humiliate, and overthrow.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Another resignation in California. Poor choice of words for sure but I mean, c'mon..

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-claremont-marches-20151112-story.html

I saw that one this morning. There has to be some back-story to this that just isn't showing up. I have a hard time believing that this person actually got forced out for a well-intentioned email that was worded a little inelegantly.

 

[Parrothead]

white people are going to be afraid to talk on college campuses

 

[Ladsud]

Not many stood up in Germany in the 30s due to the fear of being branded a Bolshevik or a Jewish sympathizer. These days they wont send you to a camp or outright kill you, you will just loss your job, be blacklisted for being called a racist and your children will be forced to have mandatory thought education.

Silence from anyone in power says alot, that R word ruins you, much like being called a communist, capitalist, royalist, catholic, protestant in the past.

 

[Loan Sharks]

“It’s a tough time to be a young person in the United States today, particularly a young person of color,” he said. “Economic opportunities are constrained. Access to higher education is constrained. Interactions with public authorities are fraught, especially interactions with police.”

I am having a hard time coming up with groups that have it better than young Americans? Pretty much the only group I would rather be in than "young american" is "rich american"

 

[Parrothead]

so when is the president going to get involved? perfect time to be a leader - or a uniter

 

[Loan Sharks]

I gotta tell you I lost money on this one.

If civil unrest and a race war was going to get started my money was on gun toting hillbillies, not rich black college students.

 

[parrot]

“It’s a tough time to be a young person in the United States today, particularly a young person of color,” he said. “Economic opportunities are constrained. Access to higher education is constrained. Interactions with public authorities are fraught, especially interactions with police.”

I am having a hard time coming up with groups that have it better than young Americans? Pretty much the only group I would rather be in than "young american" is "rich american"

And how is access to higher education "constrained"? We have more people in college, both in number and by percentage, than any time in our history. They're just making #### up at this point.

 

[matttyl]

“It’s a tough time to be a young person in the United States today, particularly a young person of color,” he said. “Economic opportunities are constrained. Access to higher education is constrained. Interactions with public authorities are fraught, especially interactions with police.”

I am having a hard time coming up with groups that have it better than young Americans? Pretty much the only group I would rather be in than "young american" is "rich american"

And how is access to higher education "constrained"? We have more people in college, both in number and by percentage, than any time in our history. They're just making #### up at this point.

"At this point"? If you look back at the start of this (Missouri) I think they've been making up things for quite some time. The student body president was making things up and had to apologize, and the "hunger striker" made up getting "hit by a car" and was spreading false stuff on his twitter feed that the school itself had to tweet him back asking him to stop.

 

[D-Day]

“It’s a tough time to be a young person in the United States today, particularly a young person of color,” he said. “Economic opportunities are constrained. Access to higher education is constrained. Interactions with public authorities are fraught, especially interactions with police.”

I am having a hard time coming up with groups that have it better than young Americans? Pretty much the only group I would rather be in than "young american" is "rich american"

And how is access to higher education "constrained"? We have more people in college, both in number and by percentage, than any time in our history. They're just making #### up at this point.

It is "constrained" because some people actually pay for their education. I think the "everyone gets a trophy" and "zero tolerance" mantra that children have been raised with is coming back to haunt us.

 

[Clifford]

We can't have a reasonable discussion about the issues if you're just gonna homer up on Alabama and tell us how special the place and people are.

OK, homerism aside, what do you think is in the players best interest? Siding with a bunch of other students who can offer them exactly nothing because they have vague complaints about not having "safe spaces" and "but but but racism"? Or continuing to excel in the sport they have played since they were in grade school on a national stage on a path to a national title that will fulfill lifelong dreams and ensure a multi-million dollar payday just 1-2 years hence?

It doesn't take a genius to quickly figure out what helps them and what doesn't. They can read the headlines and see that the students at MIzzou are already a national laughingstock. This is not the movement of Martin Luther King or even Malcolm X. There is no noble cause here, no greatness to be had. This is a movement that is completely centered around silencing others through intimidation, pretending the world can be a safe space where no one ever says anything mean or makes you feel bad about yourself, and choosing scapegoats seemingly at random for widespread societal issues.

So, you choose: student rally yelling incoherent gibberish, or a shot at a national title and a fastrack to the NFL? The only reason Mizzou players agreed is their season was already in the toilet.

 

[Sweet J]

Another resignation in California. Poor choice of words for sure but I mean, c'mon..

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-claremont-marches-20151112-story.html

I saw that one this morning. There has to be some back-story to this that just isn't showing up. I have a hard time believing that this person actually got forced out for a well-intentioned email that was worded a little inelegantly.

Jesus Christ, I am in full grumpy old man mode.

 

[Clifford]

Amherst:

Amherst Students Protest ‘Free Speech,’ Demand ‘Training’ for OffendersProtests demand the school president apologize for signs that say “free speech” died at Mizzou. Then they want him to find the offenders and teach them tolerance.
Students protesting at Amherst College have issued a list of demands to administrators that includes making them apologize for signs that lament the death of free speech.

A group calling themselves the Amherst Uprising listed 11 demands they want enacted by next Wednesday. Among them is a demand that President Biddy Martin issue a statement saying that Amherst does “not tolerate the actions of student(s) who posted the ‘All Lives Matter’ posters, and the ‘Free Speech’ posters.”

The latter posters called the principle of free speech the “true victim” of the protests at the University of Missouri.

Going further, the students demand the people behind "free speech" fliers be required to go through a disciplinary process as well as “extensive training for racial and cultural competency.”

The protests at Amherst come on the heels of protests at the University of Missouri, Yale, and Claremont McKenna College. At Mizzou, officlas resigned after after criticism of how they reacted to alleged racist incidents on campus. Students at Yale protested an email sent by a college administrator about Halloween costumes, saying it made them feel unsafe. And at Claremont McKenna, a class president resigned her post after appearing in a photo with two students dressed in ponchos and sombreros.

Amherst students also asked administrators to excuse them from coursework and classes so they could participate in protests and sit-ins—and they want the school to warn alumni that racist or critical responses of the protests will not be tolerated.

Amherst, located in western Massachusetts, is considered one of the country’s top liberal-arts colleges. Nevertheless, the students say it's steeped in racism.

President Martin must also apologize for the college’s “institutional legacy of white supremacy, colonialism, anti-black racism, anti-Latinx racism, anti-Native American racism, anti-Native/ indigenous racism, anti-Asian racism, anti-Middle Eastern racism, heterosexism, cis-sexism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, ableism, mental health stigma, and classism,” the Uprising says.

They also insist the president condemn the “inherent racist nature” of school mascot Lord Jeff, a nickname for Jeffrey Amherst. Amherst was a British army officer commonly believed to have masterminded the idea of giving Native Americans smallpox blankets during the French and Indian War.

The college's FAQ pages says it "is accurate to say that Lord Jeffery Amherst advocated biological warfare against Indians, but there is no evidence that any infected blankets were distributed at his command."

“We demand that Amherst become a leader in the fight to promote a better social climate towards individuals who have been systematically oppressed,” their statement reads. “Furthermore, we demand the College acknowledge its ethical and moral responsibilities as an institution and community of our world.”

Three students also started a hunger strike.

“We want to stress that any action taken by Amherst College to address the demands made will not erase the fact that it exists within a larger system of oppression,” Sharline Dominguez, Cristina Rey, and Carolina Vergara wrote in a blog post apologizing for not discussing their actions with other activists. “We believe that we will not be free until this larger system is deconstructed.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/13/amherst-students-demand-no-free-speech-signs-or-else.html

So what ideology or belief system is this? And, no, idiocy and stupidity is not a belief structure or ideology.

Fascism. There is no other word for it. Apparently liberal academia is simply the new Hitler Youth Camp.

 

[Parrothead]

I would like to think that there is no way in hell I would let a bunch of kids bully me into resigning..

worst case, you force the college to fire you and sue their asses off.. I don't get the knee-jerk resigning

 

[Jayrod]

Gary Pinkel to resign. Wow.

Word is his health and he plans to finish the season. He apparently has some kind of lymphoma that was diagnosed in May. Interesting timing of the announcement, though.

 

[Loan Sharks]

We can't have a reasonable discussion about the issues if you're just gonna homer up on Alabama and tell us how special the place and people are.

OK, homerism aside, what do you think is in the players best interest? Siding with a bunch of other students who can offer them exactly nothing because they have vague complaints about not having "safe spaces" and "but but but racism"? Or continuing to excel in the sport they have played since they were in grade school on a national stage on a path to a national title that will fulfill lifelong dreams and ensure a multi-million dollar payday just 1-2 years hence?

It doesn't take a genius to quickly figure out what helps them and what doesn't. They can read the headlines and see that the students at MIzzou are already a national laughingstock. This is not the movement of Martin Luther King or even Malcolm X. There is no noble cause here, no greatness to be had. This is a movement that is completely centered around silencing others through intimidation, pretending the world can be a safe space where no one ever says anything mean or makes you feel bad about yourself, and choosing scapegoats seemingly at random for widespread societal issues.

So, you choose: student rally yelling incoherent gibberish, or a shot at a national title and a fastrack to the NFL? The only reason Mizzou players agreed is their season was already in the toilet.

Clifford is right. Some of these people have been playing ball all there lives. If I was a senior and I was going to damage my career or miss one of the maybe ten college football games I was going to start because of a poop swastika I would lose my mind.

 

[Doug B]

It doesn't take a genius to quickly figure out what helps them and what doesn't. They can read the headlines and see that the students at MIzzou are already a national laughingstock. This is not the movement of Martin Luther King or even Malcolm X. There is no noble cause here, no greatness to be had. This is a movement that is completely centered around silencing others through intimidation, pretending the world can be a safe space where no one ever says anything mean or makes you feel bad about yourself, and choosing scapegoats seemingly at random for widespread societal issues.

I don't know about the football-player stuff ... but the bolded is right on.

 

[tri-man 47]

FWIW, a friend of mine, who is in marketing and with a background in journalism, posted this on Facebook regarding Janna Basler:

"...on Tuesday I did something that I never do and emailed a newsmaker to give her a piece of my mind. Sure, It was half #####y but also half rational, and it strongly urged her to publicly apologize. Surprisingly, she responded, which I didn't expect after reading that Melissa Click received 2,000 threatening emails; Janna, I assume, got just as many. She seemed appreciative of the note I sent and explained how she now realizes that Tim was the wrong person to confront. She said she was in an emotional situation and handled things poorly. I got the sense from her that she regrets that, because of her actions, this incident has turned the national discussion away from the real problems with race and MU's campus climate."

 

[TheMagus]

I wonder if the events in Paris tonight will give these idiots a bit of perspective that maybe they don't have it so bad. I question whether they actually possess any critical thinking capabilities to make that connection - especially the "million student march" demanding free college education this week.

At a minimum, they will be squashed out of the media for things that are actually important.

 

[Bojang0301]

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/mizzou-protestors-are-upset-that-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-are-getting-more-attention-than-them/

These kids, I had something to say, ah #### it. :smh:

 

[Bojang0301]

I wonder if the events in Paris tonight will give these idiots a bit of perspective that maybe they don't have it so bad. I question whether they actually possess any critical thinking capabilities to make that connection - especially the "million student march" demanding free college education this week.

At a minimum, they will be squashed out of the media for things that are actually important.

I should have quoted you in the link I just posted.

 

[avoiding injuries]

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/mizzou-protestors-are-upset-that-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-are-getting-more-attention-than-them/

These kids, I had something to say, ah #### it. :smh:

Reading that makes me wish they were in the concert hall instead.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/mizzou-protestors-are-upset-that-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-are-getting-more-attention-than-them/

These kids, I had something to say, ah #### it. :smh:

Wow...that is astonishing.

 

[Uwe Blab]

:( I won't allow myself to believe those are real. Gotta be fake accounts. No one is that dumb and demonically self-centered, right? Right?? Holy ####.

 

[bigbottom]

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/mizzou-protestors-are-upset-that-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-are-getting-more-attention-than-them/

These kids, I had something to say, ah #### it. :smh:

I'm hoping that "Melanin Monroe" is a handle.

 

[TPW]

I gotta tell you I lost money on this one.

If civil unrest and a race war was going to get started my money was on gun toting hillbillies, not rich black college students.

You've been watching too much television. Most people in rural America just want to be left alone. Aggressive political agitation in the United States these days occurs almost exclusively in left-leaning cities and university campuses.

 

[HellToupee]

from the barstool link Peaches&Honey aka @ilovethis***** weighs in with this

"terrorist do have a face its called white face!

 

[Galileo]

from the barstool link Peaches&Honey aka @ilovethis***** weighs in with this

"terrorist do have a face its called white face!

Also from that link, HAKIMAtheURBNMUSLIMA (@shegoldblooded) chimes in with this gem "I find it ironic that terrorism is only valid when it is effecting non people of color"

Although HAKIMA does not know the difference between "affect" and "effect" (maybe oppression prevented HAKIMA from obtaining a quality education), I fully agree that not enough attention is being given to terrorism against non people!

 

[avoiding injuries]

from the barstool link Peaches&Honey aka @ilovethis***** weighs in with this

"terrorist do have a face its called white face!

Also from that link, HAKIMAtheURBNMUSLIMA (@shegoldblooded) chimes in with this gem "I find it ironic that terrorism is only valid when it is effecting non people of color"Although HAKIMA does not know the difference between "affect" and "effect" (maybe oppression prevented HAKIMA from obtaining a quality education), I fully agree that not enough attention is being given to terrorism against non people!

I didn't realize that they already released details about the victims.

 

[matttyl]

If the above tweets are their actual feelings, then any sympathy for these protesters is gone.

 

[Hang 10]

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/mizzou-protestors-are-upset-that-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-are-getting-more-attention-than-them/

These kids, I had something to say, ah #### it. :smh:

 

[jonessed]

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/mizzou-protestors-are-upset-that-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-are-getting-more-attention-than-them/

These kids, I had something to say, ah #### it. :smh:

Wow...that is astonishing.

I imagine most of them have been coddled their entire life and completely lack empathy. Sad, but not really astonishing.

 

[Loan Sharks]

I found this to be hilarious. A leader of the Million Student March makes demands and gets embarrassed.

Sooo sad

After a while I was just wanting the host to stop tearing her apart because it was just sad. You have this naive kid who had no idea what she was getting into getting humiliated on tv.

 

[[icon]]

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/16/black-lives-matter-protesters-berate-white-student/

"Protesters reportedly shouted F you, you filthy white f- f you and your comfort and f you, you racist s."

No irony here, chief ?

 

[avoiding injuries]

I can't imagine why nobody is taking them seriously.

 

[Nugget]

Can we turn Mizzou into a Syrian refugee camp?

 

[RBM]

Can we turn Mizzou into a Syrian refugee camp?

Not bad

 

[Hang 10]

I found this to be hilarious. A leader of the Million Student March makes demands and gets embarrassed.

Sooo sad

After a while I was just wanting the host to stop tearing her apart because it was just sad. You have this naive kid who had no idea what she was getting into getting humiliated on tv.

"How are we going to pay for all that?"

"That's a good question."

 

[shady inc]

More fun on campus!!

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/12/01/new-u-of-missouri-protests-say-chancellor-infringing-on-womens-rights/?ref=yfp

"The march was not to protest racism on campus, however, but to demand that MU interim Chancellor Hank Foley overturn a university decision that essentially would end the ability for women to obtain a legal abortion in Columbia starting Wednesday night.

During the protest, Mary Mosely, legislative director of the Missouri National Organization for Women, said to the crowd, “The university doesn’t have the right to make this decision for every woman in the area.”"