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MJD to fall down draft lists? (1 Viewer)

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• The Jaguars are getting closer on a new contract for running back Fred Taylor, who has one year left on his deal. The team is likely going to give him a three-year deal with a signing bonus in the $8-10 million range. If that deal averages in the $5 million per year range, Taylor will be happy. Drew Rosenhaus, Taylor's agent, would not discuss talks with the team, but team sources say owner Wayne Weaver is on board with making sure Taylor gets a new deal.

- From Pete Prisco blog CBS Sportsline

 
That's actually a bit of a surprise. After what MJD did last year, I'm surprised they are looking to re-sign Taylor for that kind of money. It doesn't surprise me that they re-sign him, as he has been with that organization since he was drafted, and he's familiar with the system and personnel. It's the money that surprises me. Taylor should take that and run with it (pun intended).

As for the OP's question, does MJD fall down the draft list? Maybe a little. I think many pegged him as a very high pick next year w/o Taylor around (maybe even 1st rounder/2nd rounder material). With Taylor there, and likely splitting time again, I think he falls down from there. Not sure WHERE exactly. Hard to say right now. I think some will still draft MJD high next season, but we can't really tell until we get a better idea of how MJD and Taylor will be used. Will it be like last season? Or will MJD get a majority of the carries and Taylor become a secondary runner?

 
Whatever the split is, This is a BIG blow to MJD for this season. I was anticipating Fred leaving and MJD becoming a top back. Looks like that will be on hold for at least a year now :thumbup:

 
Terrible move by Jax imo

fragille freddy isnt getting any younger and as clearly lost a step or two..why on earth would they pay that kind of money to an aging back?

 
montanatorice said:
Terrible move by Jax imofragille freddy isnt getting any younger and as clearly lost a step or two..why on earth would they pay that kind of money to an aging back?
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Its a terrible move for fantasy owners but its smart for Jax. Fred looked pretty good last year sharing carries, with Greg Jones back they have plenty of depth.
 
I don't know how this is such a big blow to MJD, unless you were expecting 2000 yards and 20 TDs. I would think last years numbers would make his owners happy.

Wasn't Taylor in Jax last year? Didn't MJD post big numbers with Taylor in Jax last year?

Won't Taylor be another year older? I don't care what the dollar amount of the contract is; there is no fountain of youth and big dollars doesn't make someone healthier.

I think it's great Taylor is being rewarded for what he has given to the Jax franchise, but it won't make him a better back who can take on a heavier load because he's getting paid.

I look for numbers similar to last year in 07. As an MJD owner, I will take that.

 
Pauli Walnuts said:
I don't know how this is such a big blow to MJD, unless you were expecting 2000 yards and 20 TDs. I would think last years numbers would make his owners happy.Wasn't Taylor in Jax last year? Didn't MJD post big numbers with Taylor in Jax last year? Won't Taylor be another year older? I don't care what the dollar amount of the contract is; there is no fountain of youth and big dollars doesn't make someone healthier. I think it's great Taylor is being rewarded for what he has given to the Jax franchise, but it won't make him a better back who can take on a heavier load because he's getting paid. I look for numbers similar to last year in 07. As an MJD owner, I will take that.
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Thats fine if you think he will continue to get 40 yard TD runs but to land MJD you have to spend a late 1st to mid 2nd round on him and i usually like my early RB picks to get more carries and be the starter. With Fred and Greg Jones back its a little too crowded for my liking.
 
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Pauli Walnuts said:
I don't know how this is such a big blow to MJD, unless you were expecting 2000 yards and 20 TDs. I would think last years numbers would make his owners happy.Wasn't Taylor in Jax last year? Didn't MJD post big numbers with Taylor in Jax last year? Won't Taylor be another year older? I don't care what the dollar amount of the contract is; there is no fountain of youth and big dollars doesn't make someone healthier. I think it's great Taylor is being rewarded for what he has given to the Jax franchise, but it won't make him a better back who can take on a heavier load because he's getting paid. I look for numbers similar to last year in 07. As an MJD owner, I will take that.
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Now you've got a 3 headed-monster in JAX,Greg Jones surely will be part of the equation this year.Tha JAX fantasy situation at RB is not onethat I would want to be involved with at the moment.I expect solid numbers from MJD again in 2007, but not the stellar numbers from his rookie year.
 
montanatorice said:
Terrible move by Jax imofragille freddy isnt getting any younger and as clearly lost a step or two..why on earth would they pay that kind of money to an aging back?
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If you substitute "had a career best in both yards per carry and yards per reception last year" for "clearly lost a step or two" then you'd be spot on.
 
Ron_Mexico said:
Pauli Walnuts said:
I don't know how this is such a big blow to MJD, unless you were expecting 2000 yards and 20 TDs. I would think last years numbers would make his owners happy.Wasn't Taylor in Jax last year? Didn't MJD post big numbers with Taylor in Jax last year? Won't Taylor be another year older? I don't care what the dollar amount of the contract is; there is no fountain of youth and big dollars doesn't make someone healthier. I think it's great Taylor is being rewarded for what he has given to the Jax franchise, but it won't make him a better back who can take on a heavier load because he's getting paid. I look for numbers similar to last year in 07. As an MJD owner, I will take that.
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Now you've got a 3 headed-monster in JAX,Greg Jones surely will be part of the equation this year.Tha JAX fantasy situation at RB is not onethat I would want to be involved with at the moment.
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Not for the price you have to pay for MJD (late 1st). Too risky imo.
 
Its all part of a commitment to retain the football and not turn it over. Koetter's offense is going to revolve around torching defenses on the ground and then going downfield when the safties start to creep up.

Also, since we plan on letting Kyle Brady walk, expect 2RB or 2TE sets often to compensate for Brady's loss (blocking). I think Jones becomes more of a lead blocker in this style offense and not the runner he was comming into the offseason camp last season (sources say he has put on weight). Since neither Taylor nor MJD have shown a knack for picking up blitzes, expect Jones to be a fixture on 3rd downs.

With three great athletes, the possibilites are endless.

 
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Ron_Mexico said:
Pauli Walnuts said:
I don't know how this is such a big blow to MJD, unless you were expecting 2000 yards and 20 TDs. I would think last years numbers would make his owners happy.Wasn't Taylor in Jax last year? Didn't MJD post big numbers with Taylor in Jax last year? Won't Taylor be another year older? I don't care what the dollar amount of the contract is; there is no fountain of youth and big dollars doesn't make someone healthier. I think it's great Taylor is being rewarded for what he has given to the Jax franchise, but it won't make him a better back who can take on a heavier load because he's getting paid. I look for numbers similar to last year in 07. As an MJD owner, I will take that.
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Now you've got a 3 headed-monster in JAX,Greg Jones surely will be part of the equation this year.Tha JAX fantasy situation at RB is not onethat I would want to be involved with at the moment.
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Not for the price you have to pay for MJD (late 1st). Too risky imo.
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I haven't run out my rankings yet but I doubt MJD will go late 1st. First round draft choices have to be full time players who carry the load. With Taylor coming back I would put MFD at a late 2nd and a #2 Fantasy RB. I also think Fred Taylor will give the most value between the 2.
 
David Yudkin said:
montanatorice said:
Terrible move by Jax imofragille freddy isnt getting any younger and as clearly lost a step or two..why on earth would they pay that kind of money to an aging back?
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If you substitute "had a career best in both yards per carry and yards per reception last year" for "clearly lost a step or two" then you'd be spot on.
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To be fair "clearly lost a step" could also refer to the number of big runs he had last season. He had 12 of those in '00, 8 in '02, 10 in '03, 9 in '04 and was still good but not as good last season with 6.There are several RB's that have career years after turning 30(not that last season was a career year for Taylor anyway) but they typically plummet back to earth pretty fast. I agree with montanatorice in this instance. Is JAX really in a situation where they need to relent to Taylors demands for a big bonus like that? There is a glut of RB's right now trying to find full time jobs not that they need Taylor to be a full time RB in the first place with both MJD earning more playing time and the return of Jones. It would be one thing if it was a new deal based on incentives but giving a guy an $8-10mil signing bonus means he HAS to put up big #'s for two more years for it not to be a bad move. He's 31 right now and I'm not sure he can keep MJD off the field enough to make him worth that kind of $ for two more years.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Do people really think MJDcan carry the bulk of the load? Doesn't strike me as a guy that can touch it 350+ times in a season.
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I think there are a lot of people that still like Jones and think MJD/Jones can shoulder the load. For that matter, I think Pearman and Toefield are fine as backups. A stable of MJD/Jones/Toefield/Pearman is a strong group of RB's imo.
 
This guy finished 8 overall his rookie season, while splitting carries and we're talking about him falling down the list?

He didn't even see many carries the first 5-6 six games AND still finished 8th overall. Come on... the overreaction is a bit much.

 
Patoons said:
This guy finished 8 overall his rookie season, while splitting carries and we're talking about him falling down the list? He didn't even see many carries the first 5-6 six games AND still finished 8th overall. Come on... the overreaction is a bit much.
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There are valid reasons for concern. MJD's ypc and TD totals were off the charts last year. Historically, players that have posted similar numbers very quickly come back down to earth. If he splits time again the odds are great that he will not have as many breakaway TDs.If his numbers do come back down to reality, with the same number of touches he could easily drop 200 yards and fall to 7 TDs. That would drop his fantasy production from 228 to 160 points, which last year would have ranked as the #24 RB.I'm not saying that any of that is etched in stone, but if Taylor comes back and Jones is healthy, this could easily be a 3 way RBBC. IMO, MJD will go too early next year unless it clearly looks like they are handing him the starting job on a silver platter.
 
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