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It sounds like several people like ACP's sub/KO idea, including me. But with 180 picks to be made, I don't think we should add any more categories at this time.

So unless there's an outcry for other categories I'm going to lock in the weight classes and remove the "tentative categories" list.

 
Guys, let me know if there are any further suggestions. Otherwise, we'll just enjoy the PPV this Saturday and I'll get the draft order (serpentine) posted by Sunday evening. Then we'll start drafting Monday morning! :)

Does anyone want to handle the random draft order thing? I don't want to get the #1 spot and be accused of rigging it, lol.

 
It sounds like several people like ACP's sub/KO idea, including me. But with 180 picks to be made, I don't think we should add any more categories at this time.So unless there's an outcry for other categories I'm going to lock in the weight classes and remove the "tentative categories" list.
shame because i like Ahrn's idea. i also liked the idea of having more flexibility with not being restricted to drafting certain weight classes, but now that i think about it it could be fun having to think about needing to draft every weight class and where you prioritize.also can make a real fun analysis after the draft pitting leagues against each other to see which leagues would get get more wins when pitting the league's fighters against each other
 
And just to be perfectly clear, we are drafting two guys from each weight class of current fighters with their skills today (i.e. we are not drafting Dan Henderson in his prime, we are drafting him at his today age and skill level).

The retired/HOF guys we are drafting in their prime.

Correct?

 
And just to be perfectly clear, we are drafting two guys from each weight class of current fighters with their skills today (i.e. we are not drafting Dan Henderson in his prime, we are drafting him at his today age and skill level).The retired/HOF guys we are drafting in their prime.Correct?
Yes and yes. The retired guys would also be evaluated for their full career accomplishments.
 
Do we want to set a clock for this? 1 hour during work hours (9am - 6pm Eastern)?

Where's Tanner?

I'll pm him.

 
I'm still confused as to what we're doing. The OP says we're filling a fight camp or mini-fight organization. Those are 2 very different things.

 
so we're drafting to build an organization like the UFC or Bellator? I'm still a little confused - this means we're drafting two guys in each weightclass to fight each other?

 
I'll keep the first post updated the best I can.

If everyone can PM the drafter after them, that'll move thing's along nicely. I will kick kutta in the butt now.

 
Colts Win was PM'd twice, so we'll skip him. Possum's up.
If you are skipping guys already in the first round, I'll volunteer to draft. Apparently I'm more interested in this than I thought I would be.
I figure it's a pretty short list of Tier 1 fighters this early in the draft and not as much thinking involved. We haven't had a single pick today.Colt PM'd me and is busy with work so hooter311 takes the #5 draft slot.

I have a list from Possum, so I'll post his pick after hooter goes.

hooter, we'll wait til the top of the hour for either Colts or Possum. Then I'd be in favor of you jumping in and taking a spot.

 
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1.05 Cain Velasquez- Heavyweight

Face it, Heavyweight is the weakest weight class. It is hard to establish yourself when almost any guy in the division has the power to end your night with one well placed punch. With his rematch victory over JDS for the UFC Heavyweight Title I believe that Cain has proven himself as the #1 Heavyweight in the world, and could hold that title for awhile. Cain's one loss came by early knockout to JDS in a fight he came into with a shoulder injury that he didn't have time to properly rehab. In his two fights since he has proved that the shoulder is now back in business. He left Bigfoot Silva in literally a pool of blood in their match up and he beat JDS in all 5 rounds in his last fight for the title including 2 rounds that were scored 10-8 in his favor by one ringside judge.

Cain had a high school and college record combined of 196-27 that included 2 high school state championships and HW rankings of #5 and #4 in the country in his Junior and Senior years respectively. His wrestling has transitioned quite well into MMA and he has been able to dictate where the fight takes place in every fight that has lasted over 90 seconds.

Cain also has a gas tank that is unparalleled in the Heavyweight Division. He is going to come strong for all 5 rounds of a title fight, where most other HW's have only a round or two of Cardio.

At this point in his career, Cain would be a betting favorite over any fighter in the world inside the Octagon. His reign of the HW division may last a while.

 
Possum's pick:

1.06 - Fedor Emelianenko

I think he's retired, so he'll probably go in that category instead of HW. But I'll let Possum confirm that when he's back.

Scoobus PM'd.

 
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Oops, almost forgot bonesman sent me a list.1.03 - Jon Jones, LHWCliff PM'd
What a shocker, with a name like "bonesman"...
Would've taken him over GSP too... gimmie the undefeated finisher all day.
I thought about it, but I just think GSP is more proven, been doing it longer. When you think about the greatest LHW champ ever, Jones isn't the first name that comes to mind. But GSP is for the welterweights (a case could maybe be made for Hughes, but I don't think so).
 
'EYLive said:
Possum's pick:

1.06 - Fedor Emelianenko

I think he's retired, so he'll probably go in that category instead of HW. But I'll let Possum confirm that when he's back.

Scoobus PM'd.
thanks EY - hooter took my first choice of the best remaining active fighter, so instead I'm going for the cream of the crop in the Retired Fighter category. This unassuming, pudgy Russian was the world's baddest heavyweight for nearly a decade of invincibility. A first ballot MMA hall of famer, he's one of the strongest candidates in any conversation for the GOAT of the sport, and he looks like a boss in pastels.
 
'kutta said:
'bonesman said:
Oops, almost forgot bonesman sent me a list.

1.03 - Jon Jones, LHW

Cliff PM'd
What a shocker, with a name like "bonesman"...
Would've taken him over GSP too... gimmie the undefeated finisher all day.
I thought about it, but I just think GSP is more proven, been doing it longer. When you think about the greatest LHW champ ever, Jones isn't the first name that comes to mind. But GSP is for the welterweights (a case could maybe be made for Hughes, but I don't think so).
No... but he's the best LHW champ since the first name that comes to mind and has the same amount of LHW title defenses, has dominated every opponent he's faced and is only 25 years old. We also share a bday and both have nicknames that refer to how skinny we are and I :wub: him.

 
'EYLive said:
Possum's pick:

1.06 - Fedor Emelianenko

I think he's retired, so he'll probably go in that category instead of HW. But I'll let Possum confirm that when he's back.

Scoobus PM'd.
thanks EY - hooter took my first choice of the best remaining active fighter, so instead I'm going for the cream of the crop in the Retired Fighter category. This unassuming, pudgy Russian was the world's baddest heavyweight for nearly a decade of invincibility. A first ballot MMA hall of famer, he's one of the strongest candidates in any conversation for the GOAT of the sport, and he looks like a boss in pastels.
Too early IMO, first real surprise. Too many solid active guys to go to this well already. I actually prefer some other HOFers to him since he got clowned by Doom, Bigfoot and Hendo.

 
'EYLive said:
Possum's pick:

1.06 - Fedor Emelianenko

I think he's retired, so he'll probably go in that category instead of HW. But I'll let Possum confirm that when he's back.

Scoobus PM'd.
thanks EY - hooter took my first choice of the best remaining active fighter, so instead I'm going for the cream of the crop in the Retired Fighter category. This unassuming, pudgy Russian was the world's baddest heavyweight for nearly a decade of invincibility. A first ballot MMA hall of famer, he's one of the strongest candidates in any conversation for the GOAT of the sport, and he looks like a boss in pastels.
Too early IMO, first real surprise. Too many solid active guys to go to this well already. I actually prefer some other HOFers to him since he got clowned by Doom, Bigfoot and Hendo.
I agree. There are to HOF guys that I would pick in a heartbeat of Fedor.Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. But there are more than a few guys who come to mind before him.

 
There's other fighters I like a lot more, but I can't pass on the established champion in arguably the most talent rich weight class:



1.07 Benson "Smooth" Henderson

ETA: EYLive PMed

 
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There's other fighters I like a lot more, but I can't pass on the established champion in arguably to most talent rich weight class:



1.07 Benson "Smooth" Henderson
I actually train at the same gym as Henderson does. I'll let him know that scoobus from FBG picked him in our MMA draft.
 
There's other fighters I like a lot more, but I can't pass on the established champion in arguably the most talent rich weight class:



1.07 Benson "Smooth" Henderson

ETA: EYLive PMed
nice pick. I was wondering where he would drop too. There are a couple of guys out there that i am curious to see where they go. Hate giving away a huge sleeper of mine, but i am wondering how quick i will have to grab a certain guy to make sure i get him...
Julian Lane - LET ME BANG BRO!! Would love a mini tournament with him vs. Junie Browning vs. War Machine
ETA: And i do have to agree that I think Fedor was the big booboo of the round, but that is just my 2 cents. Can certainly make a nice argument for him, the guy was the most sought after guy for close to a decade. Your guaranteed the "hardcore" fans to check out your org. with Fedor hanging around. I'm interested to see who else Possum brings into his league to pair Fedor with, I would think having a superstar in a weight class, that you have to have adequate competition for him. Or you end up with an Anderson Silva situation from a few years ago, where they couldn't find an opponent for him for anything, and had to try and convince fans that Tales Leites was a legit opponent for him

 
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but i am wondering how quick i will have to grab a certain guy to make sure i get him...

Julian Lane - LET ME BANG BRO!! Would love a mini tournament with him vs. Junie Browning vs. War Machine
You can have all those guys
 
but i am wondering how quick i will have to grab a certain guy to make sure i get him...

Julian Lane - LET ME BANG BRO!! Would love a mini tournament with him vs. Junie Browning vs. War Machine
You can have all those guysi don't know if i would pay to see it, but I do know i would check it out if it was on somewhere. There has to be some piece of the fanbase out there that is craving this kind of card
 
For what it's worth, I was this close to taking a guy who I'm positive would've been considered the worst pick of the first round.

 
Man, I don't like little guys. So I'm in a weird draft spot here...

1.08 Renan Barao - Bantamweight

He's just the interim champ for now, but if the other guy wants his belt back he's not gonna be able to dance around Barao for a decision win. Barao's gonna choke him out.

ACP pm'd

 
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'EYLive said:
Possum's pick:

1.06 - Fedor Emelianenko

I think he's retired, so he'll probably go in that category instead of HW. But I'll let Possum confirm that when he's back.

Scoobus PM'd.
thanks EY - hooter took my first choice of the best remaining active fighter, so instead I'm going for the cream of the crop in the Retired Fighter category. This unassuming, pudgy Russian was the world's baddest heavyweight for nearly a decade of invincibility. A first ballot MMA hall of famer, he's one of the strongest candidates in any conversation for the GOAT of the sport, and he looks like a boss in pastels.
Too early IMO, first real surprise. Too many solid active guys to go to this well already. I actually prefer some other HOFers to him since he got clowned by Doom, Bigfoot and Hendo.
I agree. There are to HOF guys that I would pick in a heartbeat of Fedor.

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. But there are more than a few guys who come to mind before him.
ha, you guys are nuts - tell me who these other retired guys are that you'd take over Fedor? Remember before you answer that A) this is a guy who went undefeated in the best HW division on the planet in Pride, B) was the consensus best HW in the world for anywhere from 5-10 years, and C) is right up there with Anderson Silva for MMA GOAT in terms of overall accomplishments. I think Silva's got a better claim, but Fedor's right there after him (along with GSP). Also remember that we are drafting these guys in their prime, not at the tail end of their career, so a past-his-prime Emelianenko losing three fights isn't all that relevant to the discussion.

 
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There's other fighters I like a lot more, but I can't pass on the established champion in arguably the most talent rich weight class:



1.07 Benson "Smooth" Henderson

ETA: EYLive PMed
nice pick. I was wondering where he would drop too. There are a couple of guys out there that i am curious to see where they go. Hate giving away a huge sleeper of mine, but i am wondering how quick i will have to grab a certain guy to make sure i get him...
Julian Lane - LET ME BANG BRO!! Would love a mini tournament with him vs. Junie Browning vs. War Machine
ETA: And i do have to agree that I think Fedor was the big booboo of the round, but that is just my 2 cents. Can certainly make a nice argument for him, the guy was the most sought after guy for close to a decade. Your guaranteed the "hardcore" fans to check out your org. with Fedor hanging around. I'm interested to see who else Possum brings into his league to pair Fedor with, I would think having a superstar in a weight class, that you have to have adequate competition for him. Or you end up with an Anderson Silva situation from a few years ago, where they couldn't find an opponent for him for anything, and had to try and convince fans that Tales Leites was a legit opponent for him

well, we're not drafting guys to match against other guys on our roster, according to EY - we're just drafting a straightforward group of fighters to match against the other drafters' rosters (at least that's how I'm understanding this thing).
 

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