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Looks like this was the wrong crowd to pick Bruce with. If you guys haven't read about his contributions to modern MMA then I'm not going to bother discussing the pick.

 
Looks like this was the wrong crowd to pick Bruce with. If you guys haven't read about his contributions to modern MMA then I'm not going to bother discussing the pick.
I don't think anyone is questioning his contributions or influences, but he's not a retired MMA fighter.

 
Darren Elkins - Featherweight

When he beats Mendes tomorrow, my team is going to suddenly get a lot better.

 
Looks like this was the wrong crowd to pick Bruce with. If you guys haven't read about his contributions to modern MMA then I'm not going to bother discussing the pick.
"looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue"

I don't really care either way - it's a pretty out there pick but not really worse to me than picking women when we don't have a female fighter category.

(if we allow this aggression to stand, though, I got dibs on Seagal)

 
Not sure if it's my turn or not, but it looks like I'm the only one picking at MW, so I'm going anyway. Tough choice here, there's a ton of young cats I like here, several from the latest TUF show even (Hester, Bubba, Saman, Gaston).... but since the Dragon got picked I'm inspired to pick the old JKD black belt, Tim "The Barbarian" Boetsch-MW.

Final roster:

Ret: Penn/ SudoHW: Nog/ CarwinLHW: JBJ/ RuaMid: Palhares/BoetschWW: Condit/Stun GunnLW: Cerrone/MillerFW: Guida/KZBW: Dillashaw/mizugakiFY: Gaudinot/Cariaso

Fewer Brazilians than I expected to have (3)

 
Looks like this was the wrong crowd to pick Bruce with. If you guys haven't read about his contributions to modern MMA then I'm not going to bother discussing the pick.
"looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue"

I don't really care either way - it's a pretty out there pick but not really worse to me than picking women when we don't have a female fighter category.

(if we allow this aggression to stand, though, I got dibs on Seagal)
Why so prickly? You either get it or you don't.

 
Looks like this was the wrong crowd to pick Bruce with. If you guys haven't read about his contributions to modern MMA then I'm not going to bother discussing the pick.
"looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue"

I don't really care either way - it's a pretty out there pick but not really worse to me than picking women when we don't have a female fighter category.

(if we allow this aggression to stand, though, I got dibs on Seagal)
Why so prickly? You either get it or you don't.
You can get it but think it's dumb too.

He may be one of the philosophical forefathers of MMA with designing the gloves and saying styles should be trashed for whatever works, but he never had any MMA fights.

Might as well select a Joe Louis or Jack Johnson... at least theres some footage of them actually fighting.

 
Looks like this was the wrong crowd to pick Bruce with. If you guys haven't read about his contributions to modern MMA then I'm not going to bother discussing the pick.
"looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue" I don't really care either way - it's a pretty out there pick but not really worse to me than picking women when we don't have a female fighter category. (if we allow this aggression to stand, though, I got dibs on Seagal)
Why so prickly? You either get it or you don't.
ha - just busting your balls a little, man. Didn't mean to come across as prickly.
 
So what are we doing with this thing? It sure was a good time. Are we going to get some judges?

 
Been busy at work. I'll post or PM some guy from the UFC thread. Doesn't Tanner still have to make up some picks?

In the mean time (some of you guys have already done this) lets all post our full roster to make it easy for the judges to look over our squads. I'll C&P those onto the OP for easy reading.

 
Kutta Roster:

Matt Hughes, Ret/HOF

Royce Gracie, Ret/HOF

Roy Nelson, HW

Gabriel Gonzaga, HW

Gegard Mousasi, LHW

James Te Huna, LHW

Ronaldo Souza, MW

Chris Leben, MW

Georges St-Pierre, WW

Demian Maia, WW

Jamie Varner, LW

Melvin Guilllard, LW

Gina Carano, Featherweight

Darren Elkins, Featherweight

arlon Moraes, BW

Jimmie Rivera, BW

Joseph Benavidez - Flyweight

John Moraga - Flyweight

 
Darren Elkins - Featherweight

When he beats Mendes tomorrow, my team is going to suddenly get a lot better.
:bag:
Jordan Mien wins this last fight, I pick him, he gets smacked around over the weekend. <_<
I think he is still young, maybe 23? It was good for him to get a good beating at some point (though mother F it if i didn't go to put a bet in on Matt Brown about 14 minutes before their fight and the fight was no longer up at my sports book). I guess it is probably never good for someone to get beat up, but I think he'll learn from this and grow. still has a bright future. A Mien-Nate Diaz fight, if Nate is stubborn about wanting to go to 170 for awhile, would be interesting to say the least

 
Team Scoobus:

125 - Ian McCall, Darrell Montague

135 - Brad Pickett, Cat Zingano

145 - Erik Koch, Dennis Siver

155 - Benson Henderson, Khabib Nurmagomedov

170 - Rory MacDonald, Thiago Alves

185 - Michael Bisping, Alan Belcher

205 - Alexander Gustafsson, Phil Davis

HW - Daniel Cormier, Fabricio Werdum

Retired/HOF - Mirko Cro Cop, Kazushi Sakuraba

 
So i guess our next steps will be to evaluate the leagues and fiugure out criteria on how to score. I know Clayton is one of the main judges, and if we want to try for impartiality we could use Sheer Terror, Sebowski, Abrantes, and plenty of others.

So in the mean time we can evaluate our own leagues and make any minor additions if we were to open up free agency for anybody. One reason i keep plugging away with being allowed to grab free agents is because a true warrior of the sport doesn't have an MMA home in our landscape, and i would like to give him one (as soon as I heard him walk to the Octagon with LL Cool J's "I'm Bad" blasting, I just knew we had to have him on the team).

And While we wait, I think it would be fun to see how some of our leagues would do against each other. Scoobus is closest to what I see, so let's say Scoobus has started a nice reputable league in a smaller town. They are the bog boys on the block there (i'm seeing them at the Greg Jackson's MMA of a mid size town). Well, unfortunately, that does not last long and the big bad wolf from Philadelphia comes strolling through eye'ing up the situation, chewing bubble gum and having the fighters ready to kick ###. Just so happens, Mo runs out of bubble gum, and there is only one way this can go.......ding, ding, ding

retired: Lesnar, Tank Abbott

HWY: Ubereem and Travis Browne

LHW: Texeira, Thiago Silva

MW: Phillipou, Uriah Hall

WW: Erick Silva, Michael Page

LW: Eddie Alvarez, Edson Barboza

Featherweight: Anthony Pettis and Cub Swanson

BW: Ronda Rousy and Dom Cruz

Flyweight: Sergio Pettis, Azamat Gashimov

vs

125 - Ian McCall, Darrell Montague

135 - Brad Pickett, Cat Zingano

145 - Erik Koch, Dennis Siver

155 - Benson Henderson, Khabib Nurmagomedov

170 - Rory MacDonald, Thiago Alves

185 - Michael Bisping, Alan Belcher

205 - Alexander Gustafsson, Phil Davis

HW - Daniel Cormier, Fabricio Werdum

Retired/HOF - Mirko Cro Cop, Kazushi Sakuraba

I don't know how to do this prettier, so let's look at the potential match-ups:

Brock Lesnar and Tank Abbott vs. Cro Cop and Sakuraba (they chose to do it tag team style)

HWY: Overeem vs. Cormier; Travis Browne vs. Werdum

LHW: Glover Tex vs Gustaffason; Thiago Silva vs. Phil Davis

MW: Consta Phillipou vs. Bisping; Alan Belcher vs. Uruiah Hall

WW: Erick Silva vs. Rory McDonald, Michael Page vs. Thiago Alves

LW: Eddie Alvarez vs. Benson Henderson; Barbosa vs. Khabib

Featherweight: Anthony Pettis vs. Eric Koch, Cub Swanson vs. Denis Siver

BW: (Wow, we don't need a mixed tag match here) Rousey vs Cat Zangano, and D. Cruz vs. Brad Pickett

Flyweight: Sergio Pettis vs. Uncle Creepy; Azamat Gashimov - Montague

I would love to have this fight in 2 years since a big part of my league is youth and building for the future, but if we say it isn't how do people this this card would go? Who would win more? Which division would be dominant?

I will let others throw their opinions in before i throw my 2 cents in. :coffee:

 
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So i guess our next steps will be to evaluate the leagues and fiugure out criteria on how to score. I know Clayton is one of the main judges, and if we want to try for impartiality we could use Sheer Terror, Sebowski, Abrantes, and plenty of others.

So in the mean time we can evaluate our own leagues and make any minor additions if we were to open up free agency for anybody. One reason i keep plugging away with being allowed to grab free agents is because a true warrior of the sport doesn't have an MMA home in our landscape, and i would like to give him one (as soon as I heard him walk to the Octagon with LL Cool J's "I'm Bad" blasting, I just knew we had to have him on the team).

And While we wait, I think it would be fun to see how some of our leagues would do against each other. Scoobus is closest to what I see, so let's say Scoobus has started a nice reputable league in a smaller town. They are the bog boys on the block there (i'm seeing them at the Greg Jackson's MMA of a mid size town). Well, unfortunately, that does not last long and the big bad wolf from Philadelphia comes strolling through eye'ing up the situation, chewing bubble gum and having the fighters ready to kick ###. Just so happens, Mo runs out of bubble gum, and there is only one way this can go.......ding, ding, ding

retired: Lesnar, Tank Abbott

HWY: Ubereem and Travis Browne

LHW: Texeira, Thiago Silva

MW: Phillipou, Uriah Hall

WW: Erick Silva, Michael Page

LW: Eddie Alvarez, Edson Barboza

Featherweight: Anthony Pettis and Cub Swanson

BW: Ronda Rousy and Dom Cruz

Flyweight: Sergio Pettis, Azamat Gashimov

vs

125 - Ian McCall, Darrell Montague

135 - Brad Pickett, Cat Zingano

145 - Erik Koch, Dennis Siver

155 - Benson Henderson, Khabib Nurmagomedov

170 - Rory MacDonald, Thiago Alves

185 - Michael Bisping, Alan Belcher

205 - Alexander Gustafsson, Phil Davis

HW - Daniel Cormier, Fabricio Werdum

Retired/HOF - Mirko Cro Cop, Kazushi Sakuraba

I don't know how to do this prettier, so let's look at the potential match-ups:

Brock Lesnar and Tank Abbott vs. Cro Cop and Sakuraba (they chose to do it tag team style)

HWY: Overeem vs. Cormier; Travis Browne vs. Werdum

LHW: Glover Tex vs Gustaffason; Thiago Silva vs. Phil Davis

MW: Consta Phillipou vs. Bisping; Alan Belcher vs. Uruiah Hall

WW: Erick Silva vs. Rory McDonald, Michael Page vs. Thiago Alves

LW: Eddie Alvarez vs. Benson Henderson; Barbosa vs. Khabib

Featherweight: Anthony Pettis vs. Eric Koch, Cub Swanson vs. Denis Siver

BW: (Wow, we don't need a mixed tag match here) Rousey vs Cat Zangano, and D. Cruz vs. Brad Pickett

Flyweight: Sergio Pettis vs. Uncle Creepy; Azamat Gashimov - Montague

I would love to have this fight in 2 years since a big part of my league is youth and building for the future, but if we say it isn't how do people this this card would go? Who would win more? Which division would be dominant?

I will let others throw their opinions in before i throw my 2 cents in. :coffee:
:boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

That's an easy win for Team Scoobus :P

I'll let others chime in since I'm obviously biased.

 
So i guess our next steps will be to evaluate the leagues and fiugure out criteria on how to score. I know Clayton is one of the main judges, and if we want to try for impartiality we could use Sheer Terror, Sebowski, Abrantes, and plenty of others.

So in the mean time we can evaluate our own leagues and make any minor additions if we were to open up free agency for anybody. One reason i keep plugging away with being allowed to grab free agents is because a true warrior of the sport doesn't have an MMA home in our landscape, and i would like to give him one (as soon as I heard him walk to the Octagon with LL Cool J's "I'm Bad" blasting, I just knew we had to have him on the team).

And While we wait, I think it would be fun to see how some of our leagues would do against each other. Scoobus is closest to what I see, so let's say Scoobus has started a nice reputable league in a smaller town. They are the bog boys on the block there (i'm seeing them at the Greg Jackson's MMA of a mid size town). Well, unfortunately, that does not last long and the big bad wolf from Philadelphia comes strolling through eye'ing up the situation, chewing bubble gum and having the fighters ready to kick ###. Just so happens, Mo runs out of bubble gum, and there is only one way this can go.......ding, ding, ding

retired: Lesnar, Tank Abbott

HWY: Ubereem and Travis Browne

LHW: Texeira, Thiago Silva

MW: Phillipou, Uriah Hall

WW: Erick Silva, Michael Page

LW: Eddie Alvarez, Edson Barboza

Featherweight: Anthony Pettis and Cub Swanson

BW: Ronda Rousy and Dom Cruz

Flyweight: Sergio Pettis, Azamat Gashimov

vs

125 - Ian McCall, Darrell Montague

135 - Brad Pickett, Cat Zingano

145 - Erik Koch, Dennis Siver

155 - Benson Henderson, Khabib Nurmagomedov

170 - Rory MacDonald, Thiago Alves

185 - Michael Bisping, Alan Belcher

205 - Alexander Gustafsson, Phil Davis

HW - Daniel Cormier, Fabricio Werdum

Retired/HOF - Mirko Cro Cop, Kazushi Sakuraba

I don't know how to do this prettier, so let's look at the potential match-ups:

Brock Lesnar and Tank Abbott vs. Cro Cop and Sakuraba (they chose to do it tag team style)

HWY: Overeem vs. Cormier; Travis Browne vs. Werdum

LHW: Glover Tex vs Gustaffason; Thiago Silva vs. Phil Davis

MW: Consta Phillipou vs. Bisping; Alan Belcher vs. Uruiah Hall

WW: Erick Silva vs. Rory McDonald, Michael Page vs. Thiago Alves

LW: Eddie Alvarez vs. Benson Henderson; Barbosa vs. Khabib

Featherweight: Anthony Pettis vs. Eric Koch, Cub Swanson vs. Denis Siver

BW: (Wow, we don't need a mixed tag match here) Rousey vs Cat Zangano, and D. Cruz vs. Brad Pickett

Flyweight: Sergio Pettis vs. Uncle Creepy; Azamat Gashimov - Montague

I would love to have this fight in 2 years since a big part of my league is youth and building for the future, but if we say it isn't how do people this this card would go? Who would win more? Which division would be dominant?

I will let others throw their opinions in before i throw my 2 cents in. :coffee:
Gotta go with the Cormier/Bendo squad

 
So....who won this thing?
<------- This guy
Yeah, that Chris Weidman pick is a beaut at this point, it is certainly a solid argument. We should get some of those guys from the MMA wagering thread who didn't participate in this to judge the rosters and weigh in to see who won this.

On a side note, the guys who do the bloodyelbow podcast did an MMA draft. i just turned it on, but wondering how we stack up against them.: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/7/16/4527954/bloody-elbow-radio-episode-276-be-radio-mma-fantasy-draft

ETA: they seem to have a nice twist to it, they are doing the draft and measuring it over the next year. I am not sure of their exact scoring system, but it seems that it is based off of wins over the next year, and the wins are weighted based on importance

 
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So....who won this thing?
<------- This guy
Yeah, that Chris Weidman pick is a beaut at this point, it is certainly a solid argument. We should get some of those guys from the MMA wagering thread who didn't participate in this to judge the rosters and weigh in to see who won this.

On a side note, the guys who do the bloodyelbow podcast did an MMA draft. i just turned it on, but wondering how we stack up against them.: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/7/16/4527954/bloody-elbow-radio-episode-276-be-radio-mma-fantasy-draft

ETA: they seem to have a nice twist to it, they are doing the draft and measuring it over the next year. I am not sure of their exact scoring system, but it seems that it is based off of wins over the next year, and the wins are weighted based on importance
Can we wait till after Hendricks vs GSP so I can have another champ on my roster :excited:

 
So....who won this thing?
<------- This guy
Yeah, that Chris Weidman pick is a beaut at this point, it is certainly a solid argument. We should get some of those guys from the MMA wagering thread who didn't participate in this to judge the rosters and weigh in to see who won this.

On a side note, the guys who do the bloodyelbow podcast did an MMA draft. i just turned it on, but wondering how we stack up against them.: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/7/16/4527954/bloody-elbow-radio-episode-276-be-radio-mma-fantasy-draft

ETA: they seem to have a nice twist to it, they are doing the draft and measuring it over the next year. I am not sure of their exact scoring system, but it seems that it is based off of wins over the next year, and the wins are weighted based on importance
Can we wait till after Hendricks vs GSP so I can have another champ on my roster :excited:
That would certainly help your cause. My team is not that heavy on belts, i have rousey, technically Cruz, and hopefully Pettis. Not sure if i have anybody else in contention, but you would have to think holding a belt is a nice thing for your league.

 
On the road, write up later.

6.06 Anthony "Rumble" Johnson- Light Heavyweight
How many LHW's drafted after Round 2 would be considered a big favorite against AJ? I'm going to go with none. He has looked bad only when doing severe damage to himself with unnecessarily dramatic weight cuts leading up to the fight. Otherwise he has been borderline unstoppable. His wrestling has always been underrated and he has dramatic power in both his hands and feet any any weight class. I think he has finally found a home at 205 and should continue to improve for at least a couple more years.
All of them? Shogun, Gustaffson, Evans, Texeira and Davis would all be favorites over him. Bader would be a pretty tight line.

He's looked "borderline unstoppable" because he has been fighting cans.
Gust would be over -220, I overlooked him. That was my bad.I would take AJ over the other 4. He would dominate Texeira.

ETA: No way any of the other 4 would open greater than -160 over AJ.
:confused: Who on Earth has "Rumble" beat at light heavyweight? I'd take all 6 fighters listed above easily, Bader included.
What the heck could Bader do to damage or win a round against Rumble? Johnson is 6'2" with a 78" reach. That gives him a reach advantage over everyone except Davis who has 79". I would give him the striking advantage in every one of those fights.
Wrestle? Wait for Johnson to inevitably gas? I do think that would be the closest matchup of the 6, so maybe I shouldn't have included Bader in the easily group.
Johnson has only lost once, via eye poke that should have been a DQ, in fights where he has had a full camp and came in at the contracted weight. If he wasn't a moron and attempting to fight at an unhealthy weightclass for most of his career it is hard telling what his potential was/is as a fighter. I predict we will see him back in the UFC, and at 205.
He also hasn't beat anyone relevant.
The point I'm making is book the fight, and he would.
Verified

 
dang... if Boetch didn't get tied up in that inverted triangle going for the single leg I could've had 3 guys win from my team on the main card of a PPV.

 
9.05 Rafeal Dos Anjos- Lightweight

A darkhorse favorite of mine that I believe will be in title contention conversation in the near future. Very slick BJJ and his striking has came a long ways. Only lost to Guida because of a freak jaw injury. He was out muscled by Tibau, which forced him back to the drawing board to work on his striking.
Team hooter strikes again.

 
9.05 Rafeal Dos Anjos- Lightweight

A darkhorse favorite of mine that I believe will be in title contention conversation in the near future. Very slick BJJ and his striking has came a long ways. Only lost to Guida because of a freak jaw injury. He was out muscled by Tibau, which forced him back to the drawing board to work on his striking.
Team hooter strikes again.
nice. so who won this damn thing?

 
9.05 Rafeal Dos Anjos- Lightweight

A darkhorse favorite of mine that I believe will be in title contention conversation in the near future. Very slick BJJ and his striking has came a long ways. Only lost to Guida because of a freak jaw injury. He was out muscled by Tibau, which forced him back to the drawing board to work on his striking.
Team hooter strikes again.
Yeah, that's a good one there.

 

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