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~MMA Draft Thread~ (1 Viewer)

After this weekend's fights I'll do some recruiting in that thread to see if anyone else wants to help us out.

 
I'm ready with my next pick - I'll wait a little bit for Pete. I'm going to be at home drinking bourbon and watching movies tonight, so I'll be able to check in periodically. If he doesn't pick, I'll wait until I'm 2 sheets to the wind and make my pick.

 
kutta said:
Marlon Moraes - BWFirst let me say that I really don't like the little guys. I think they should have kept the WEC going and kept the little dudes there. It is really annoying to me watching them fight. I'm not sure why - maybe I really like to see the big knockout, or at least I like to know there is the potential for a big knockout. Also, watching guys fight that I outweigh by 80 lbs is just a little weird. Anyway, Moraes isn't in the UFC, but he does have 8 first round finishes, which is rare for the little dudes.
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man, I have to say I completely disagree about smaller fighters and their entertainment value. The 135 and 145 lb divisions have some of the most exciting fights in the sport - nonstop action, super high skill level, and those guys don't tire out after a round or two the way bigger fighters do. I also think there's plenty of finishes at BW and FW - maybe not as many as the heavies, but I bet its comparable to any other division. I can agree with you on flyweight lack of finishes - I'm not that much of a fan of that division. But I love watching BW/FW. As far as I'm concerned, the WEC was routinely putting on more exciting cards than the UFC at the time they got bought out.
 
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kutta said:
Marlon Moraes - BWFirst let me say that I really don't like the little guys. I think they should have kept the WEC going and kept the little dudes there. It is really annoying to me watching them fight. I'm not sure why - maybe I really like to see the big knockout, or at least I like to know there is the potential for a big knockout. Also, watching guys fight that I outweigh by 80 lbs is just a little weird. Anyway, Moraes isn't in the UFC, but he does have 8 first round finishes, which is rare for the little dudes.
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man, I have to say I completely disagree about smaller fighters and their entertainment value. The 135 and 145 lb divisions have some of the most exciting fights in the sport - nonstop action, super high skill level, and those guys don't tire out after a round or two the way bigger fighters do. I also think there's plenty of finishes at BW and FW - maybe not as many as the heavies, but I bet its comparable to any other division.I can agree with you on flyweight lack of finishes - I'm not that much of a fan of that division. But I love watching BW/FW. As far as I'm concerned, the WEC was routinely putting on more exciting cards than the UFC at the time they got bought out.
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I do enjoy the LW division, but that's about it. I could do without the 145, but some of those fights are really good. It's the 125 and 135 that I just don't really enjoy. I think 185 and 205 are the sweet spots. Very athletic fighters with enough power to put you away. I'd watch fights in those weight divisions all day and all night.

 
Well, i'll go ahead and pick since we didn't hear from Pete all night.

Iuri Alcantara - BW

Honestly, I don't know a whole lot about him. I know he was on a great win streak but lost to Dias in his last fight. He fights Santos next on Fox, which should be a good fight.

 
kutta said:
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kutta said:
Marlon Moraes - BW

First let me say that I really don't like the little guys. I think they should have kept the WEC going and kept the little dudes there. It is really annoying to me watching them fight. I'm not sure why - maybe I really like to see the big knockout, or at least I like to know there is the potential for a big knockout. Also, watching guys fight that I outweigh by 80 lbs is just a little weird.

Anyway, Moraes isn't in the UFC, but he does have 8 first round finishes, which is rare for the little dudes.
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man, I have to say I completely disagree about smaller fighters and their entertainment value. The 135 and 145 lb divisions have some of the most exciting fights in the sport - nonstop action, super high skill level, and those guys don't tire out after a round or two the way bigger fighters do. I also think there's plenty of finishes at BW and FW - maybe not as many as the heavies, but I bet its comparable to any other division.I can agree with you on flyweight lack of finishes - I'm not that much of a fan of that division. But I love watching BW/FW. As far as I'm concerned, the WEC was routinely putting on more exciting cards than the UFC at the time they got bought out.
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I do enjoy the LW division, but that's about it. I could do without the 145, but some of those fights are really good. It's the 125 and 135 that I just don't really enjoy. I think 185 and 205 are the sweet spots. Very athletic fighters with enough power to put you away. I'd watch fights in those weight divisions all day and all night.
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gotcha - like I said, I agree on 125 to some extent, but I think there's plenty of finishers at 135. Guys like Faber, Bowles, Mcdonald, Wineland, Pickett, Menjivar, and Dantas (edit: forgot Barao) have great finish rates. You do see a lot of sub finishes at that level after guys get rocked rather than straight up blast KOs, but I like to see both of those.This discussion actually made me go look for stats to see if anyone's researched it. The link below shows finish rates by class through 200 fights in 2012 - 135 and 185 had the best finish rates, while 205 and 125 had the worst:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/7/17/3163315/ufc-2012-fight-statistics-ufc-stats

 
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kutta said:
Well, i'll go ahead and pick since we didn't hear from Pete all night.

Iuri Alcantara - BW

Honestly, I don't know a whole lot about him. I know he was on a great win streak but lost to Dias in his last fight. He fights Santos next on Fox, which should be a good fight.
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Took him last round.

 
Cliff Clavin said:
kutta said:
Well, i'll go ahead and pick since we didn't hear from Pete all night.

Iuri Alcantara - BW

Honestly, I don't know a whole lot about him. I know he was on a great win streak but lost to Dias in his last fight. He fights Santos next on Fox, which should be a good fight.
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Took him last round.
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Well crud, I guess I had one too many bourbons last night...

I'll go with Jimmie Rivera - BW.

 
bonesman said:
been waiting to see if OPM is gonna go.
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i'd say go for now, or maybe give a few hours. he can catch up whenever, the picks now are kind of dependent on which weight class you have to fill so there so it should be simpler to go through

 
Tim Elliot - Flyweight

FlW-Dodson

BW-Wineland, Alcantara

FeW-Aldo, McGregor

LW-Maynard, Aoki

WW-Hendricks, Nelson

MW-Weidman, Shields

LHW-Little Nog, King Mo

HW-Mir, King Mo

Old ####-Shamrock

 
yes. OPM owes two picks. Hooters been on the clock for 24 hours, so skip him too. Go ahead scoobus. possum.

 
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Sergei Kharitonov, HW

A big badass 32-yr-old Russian who holds wins over Overeem, Werdum and Arlovski among others. Like Mark Hunt, Sergei doesn't really care about going to the ground and would rather smack you around with his bear paws while standing, but unlike Hunt, he actually does have the ability to submit guys off his back in a pinch. I think he'd be ranked somewhere from 9-15 at HW if he joined the UFC right now and hope we get to see it happen before long (supposedly he wanted more $ than uncle Dana's willing to shell out for his services or he'd already be there).

 
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17.07 Cat Zingano

I still need another bantamweight, hard to imagine a more high profile guy is still out there. She's still undefeated, coming off the biggest win of her career last weekend and will now coach opposite of Rousey on the next TUF. :shrug:

 
This new board is stupid. I'm not fixing the first post... again. <_<

 
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17.10. I'm looking at all high ceiling with these last 2 picks. Pure prospects with real impressive upside. So to fill my flyweight spot, I will go with 19 year prospect, and brother to my 1st round pick, Sergio pettis. I had to just look him up to make sure he was a flyweight and he is. He'll be in the UFC soon enough as well, he is just so young that I know they wanted him to get more experience. Duke roofus is high on him, and he'll be fighting for the UFC title in a year or 2

 
Feel free to skip my next pick, I'll put it in when I get a chance later and I can make sure they weren't taken. I have 2-3 people in mind so I should be able to put one of them in when I get a chance

 
modogg said:
17.10. I'm looking at all high ceiling with these last 2 picks. Pure prospects with real impressive upside. So to fill my flyweight spot, I will go with 19 year prospect, and brother to my 1st round pick, Sergio pettis. I had to just look him up to make sure he was a flyweight and he is. He'll be in the UFC soon enough as well, he is just so young that I know they wanted him to get more experience. Duke roofus is high on him, and he'll be fighting for the UFC title in a year or 2
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Good pick, was looking at him earlier.I think 2 teams now have a pair of siblings.
 
scoobus said:
modogg said:
17.10. I'm looking at all high ceiling with these last 2 picks. Pure prospects with real impressive upside. So to fill my flyweight spot, I will go with 19 year prospect, and brother to my 1st round pick, Sergio pettis. I had to just look him up to make sure he was a flyweight and he is. He'll be in the UFC soon enough as well, he is just so young that I know they wanted him to get more experience. Duke roofus is high on him, and he'll be fighting for the UFC title in a year or 2
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Good pick, was looking at him earlier.I think 2 teams now have a pair of siblings.
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Thanks, and yeah I think ahrn and I both have sibling connections. There was another flyweight I was thinking about, but having 2 WMMA fighters was chancy. I think I would have grabbed the girl I was thinking about over my Greg Jackson flyweight, but oh well
 
Sorry fellas, haven't been around a computer in awhile.

Nice pick on Sergio, mo. That's who I had targeted as well.

 
17.5 Dileno Lopes- Flyweight

With the flyweight division of the UFC being as new and shallow as it is, it should be turned upside down in the next few years. Lopes is a 23 year old Nova Uniao prospect that is currently 12-0 with 11 submission victories. Expect him in the UFC and winning fights in the next year.

 
Heck, I don't even know my own flyweight that I just picked.

In hindsight, we could have had 1 category for fly and bantamweights, maybe with 3 spots.

 
scoobus said:
modogg said:
17.10. I'm looking at all high ceiling with these last 2 picks. Pure prospects with real impressive upside. So to fill my flyweight spot, I will go with 19 year prospect, and brother to my 1st round pick, Sergio pettis. I had to just look him up to make sure he was a flyweight and he is. He'll be in the UFC soon enough as well, he is just so young that I know they wanted him to get more experience. Duke roofus is high on him, and he'll be fighting for the UFC title in a year or 2
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Good pick, was looking at him earlier.I think 2 teams now have a pair of siblings.
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yup, I was looking at him too - good one Mo. I don't know a whole bunch other than that he's undefeated and looks like a great prospect.

I did notice a bunch of people on forum discussions saying that he's moving up to a different weight class, but nothing official that I've seen says he's leaving 125. He gave an interview at the end of 2012 (can't remember where I saw it but it should show in a Google search) where he was talking about how excited he is that the UFC has added flyweights and is looking forward to joining that division.

 
hooter311 said:
17.5 Dileno Lopes- Flyweight

With the flyweight division of the UFC being as new and shallow as it is, it should be turned upside down in the next few years. Lopes is a 23 year old Nova Uniao prospect that is currently 12-0 with 11 submission victories. Expect him in the UFC and winning fights in the next year.
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:rant:

good pick dude, but now I'm pretty much out of flyweights that I know anything about

 
I'm really torn on my last pick here, which has to be in the WW division. I can go for a very solid prospect with good upside who is doing very well in his career, or i can drink the kool aid with a potential barn burner who likely has as good of a chance of ending up being a dud. F' it, let's go with the Kool Aid option. I'll grab a few WW guys in a free agency pool, Michael Page. My man is 6'3", fights at 170" and is 26. He is 5-0 , with no fight going longer than 3:48 into the 1st. 3 KO/TKO, 2 subs. Guy has been coined as the next Anderson Silva and has looked legit in every test he has had. Hasn't faced any top level competition yet, but the guy shows all indications of being legit.

I'm already pissed i didn't grab the other WW i wanted, but oh well.

and here is my final roster. More good then bad i think. Also think i have a few certainties like exciting shows and can sell tickets.

retired: Lesnar, Tank Abbott

HWY: Ubereem and Travis Browne

LHW: Texeira, Thiago Silva

MW: Phillipou, Uriah Hall

WW: Erick Silva, Michael Page

LW: Eddie Alvarez, Edson Barboza

Featherweight: Anthony Pettis and Cub Swanson

BW: Ronda Rousy and Dom Cruz

Flyweight: Sergio Pettis, Azamat Gashimov

 
My final:

Retired/HOF: Wanderlei Silva, Bas Rutten

HW: Josh Barnett, Cheick Kongo

LHW: Dan Henderson, Matt Hammill

MW: Nick Diaz, Vitor Belfort

WW: Martin Kampmann, Douglas Lima

LW: Nate Diaz, Joe Lauzon

FW: Tatsuya Kawajiri, Cristiane "Cris Cyborg" Justino Santos

BW: Brian Bowles, Bibiano Fernandez

FlW: Phil Harris, Jose Maria Tome :shrug:

I figured going into this that if I didn't get any of the top 4 flyweights I was just going to wait til the very end -- IMO the dropoff from #5 to #18 is either unknown or not much. Outside of my FlWs and the Matt Hammill pick, I like this crew.

 
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AhrnCityPahnder said:
My final: Retired/HOF: Wanderlei Silva, Bas RuttenHW: Josh Barnett, Cheick KongoLHW: Dan Henderson, Matt HammillMW: Nick Diaz, Vitor BelfortWW: Martin Kampmann, Douglas LimaLW: Nate Diaz, Joe LauzonFW: Tatsuya Kawajiri, Cristiane "Cris Cyborg" Justino SantosBW: Brian Bowles, Bibiano FernandezFlW: Phil Harris, Jose Maria Tome :shrug: I figured going into this that if I didn't get any of the top 4 flyweights I was just going to wait til the very end -- IMO the dropoff from #5 to #18 is either unknown or not much. Outside of my FlWs and the Matt Hammill pick, I like this crew.
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I like it. We will have our two HW's face off on Saturday (Big Country and Kongo). Should be interesting.

One question - maybe I missed it. I thought Nick Diaz was a WW, not a MW. Is he switching classes?

 
18.04 Thiago Alves

Still shocked at all the available talent at WW, there's still 4 guys out there I'd be more than happy picking here. I'll take the youngest of the 4 here. Alves, 29, can hopefully make a comeback after battling the injury bug the last year plus. He was only 48 seconds away from beating Kampmann in his last fight before inexplicably shooting for a takedown; I think he's still got the talent to make another run in a stacked division.

 
18.05 Will Campuzano, Flyweight

I remember watching Will in the WEC fighting at 145 against guys like Eddie Wineland - he's fast and puts on exciting fights but was always undersized for FW. At 5'9 he's got great height for 125, though, and he's currently undefeated at that weight and holds the Legacy Fighting Championship title (including a win over Joshua Sampo). He's only 26 years old and should make it back to the big stage soon.

 
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I thought campuzano was a flyweight and I had him in my head for a late pick.... I looked at wiki and I swear it had him as a bantamweight. Either way.. good pick. He's an entertaining fighter. plus, he looks like a Mexican elf.

 
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