delusional
Footballguy
How hard is it to hand off or screen pass to gore considering the throw wouldnt be that far so smith could hit him and he is about the best player on that team
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*** MNF Game Thread: SF 49ers @ SEA Seahawks *** (1 Viewer)
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BigTuna
Footballguy
I just hope he builds enough confidence in Hasselbeck so that when Branch returns his fall off won't be too great.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Nice windy monologue by Young. Yeesh.
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BigTuna
Footballguy
he's over 100 now.
MCguidance
Footballguy
my wr are shallow enough that he will no longer sit, lol
BigTuna
Footballguy
In my league the only WR's to outscore him this week are TO and Wayne.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
SHUT THE #### UP IN THE BOOTH. CHRIST
delusional
Footballguy
haha they are down 24...their QB can't throw worth a lick...run it ffs
mad sweeney
Footballguy
You'd prefer another IBM commercial? It's not like they're holding up the game so the guys can talk. I'd rather listen to Jaws and Young, who know what they're talking about than the same Chili's commercial every break.
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BigTuna
Footballguy
we get the overly loud nissan commercials.
the spanker
Footballguy
Why would you not kick the FG early in the third quarter? At least give you team something to play for.
How do these guys get paid so much money to mismanaged games so badly is unreal.
How do these guys get paid so much money to mismanaged games so badly is unreal.
Rogi
Footballguy
I don't think I've seen my favorite. A group of guys in an empty bar singing "Viva Viagra".
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I don't think going on and on and on and on and on and on about how they found Tony Romo from a barn to become an NFL QB really qualifies.It was a conversation about nothing. Too many voices in one booth. All trying to speak at the same time.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Wonder what the record is for most 4th down conversions prevented.
Gotta love the MNF shutout record. I still remember with great fondness the 42-0 blasting of the Eagles two seasons ago. Especially because the tool at work that talked trash all week before. Eat it DB!!!
Gotta love the MNF shutout record. I still remember with great fondness the 42-0 blasting of the Eagles two seasons ago. Especially because the tool at work that talked trash all week before. Eat it DB!!!
unipanthers
Footballguy
In fact, he has been in pass protection on most of the plays. What a horrible offense this is.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
This year more than makes up for getting swept last year. Hard to be super proud of beatting this alleged NFL team, but a big win for the NFCW chase.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Their last top pick isn't helping them much. Just leaves them more cap room for the large number of positions they need to upgrade.Can you imagine being a Niners fan and having this awful of a season...and then knowing that maybe the best team ever has your top-3 pick.
BigTuna
Footballguy
Huge win for the seahawks. Its what they needed after being embarrassed by pitt, and NO
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
But during the past week the coach stated they were going pass heavy, because it was what was working. Even when SA might be playing tonight. As in - it was what was working while SA was on the field. The fact it was used more and worked is a solid sign for Seattle. When Morris had 19 carries at under 3 yards a clip, its hard to see him as a catalyst. But I do like the new offense playcalling better. Call what works.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I think it was the right call. The guy had both feet down and control of the ball. It wasn't gripped like you'd normally grip a football, but he had it. A second later, a guy knocked it out of his hands and out of bounds. That's a catch.
Capella
Footballguy
The draft is what fans of crappy teams have to look forward to in the middle of a 1-9 season. No such luck here.Their last top pick isn't helping them much. Just leaves them more cap room for the large number of positions they need to upgrade.Can you imagine being a Niners fan and having this awful of a season...and then knowing that maybe the best team ever has your top-3 pick.
jamil
Footballguy
not just from a davis owner...but when did they start paying him for his blocking...which is suspect at best.
BigTuna
Footballguy
Passing to the runningbacks does not work while SA is on the field. See the first play of last week.
kingmalaki
Footballguy
Hmm, so did anyone else lose the game because of the Brown FG's that didn't count due to penalties? Count me in Bob!!!!!
MarcO
Footballguy
use the pass to set up the run. It may be a style that is suited better for Morris but I would like to see Alexander get the same opportunity.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
This is another case where the stats don't tell everything. There were a number of times when Morris got 3-7 more yards than SA would've on the same run. Running through traffic and contact instead of curling up. In addition to his pass catching. If that was SA in there he'd have struggled to break 50 yards. I didn't watch his blocking all the time, but I saw him pick up a few blitzes more than SA would've as well. And there were zero boos from the stands. I liked the way Morris ran today, but the one time he ran like SA he fumbled. The line still has work to do, but it's easier to block for a guy that you know will get in there and dig for the yards you're taking a beating for.
BigTuna
Footballguy
Alexander did see the same opportunity years ago when Watters was the receiving/runningback. When the reigns were handed over to Alexander, they pain stakingly tried to fit him in. He simply cannot block and cannot catch. I was shocked when they signed him to that fat contract. I don't know how a RB makes it to this level while not being able to passblock or catch but SA managed it. And now that Hutch is blocking for Minn, his running game is gone as well. I hope you guys are wrong and they don't bring SA back. he does not work in this type of offense.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Teach him how to block and catch passes. Even before the wrist was hurt he dropped a bunch of passes, preseason too. And his blocking...uh no comment. But it isn't good. A step above 'Ole'.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Every single guy on ESPN except Berman slammed SA for losing heart after getting the paycheck. Every one, and Jackson, Ditka and Johnson were harsh about it.Alexander did see the same opportunity years ago when Watters was the receiving/runningback. When the reigns were handed over to Alexander, they pain stakingly tried to fit him in. He simply cannot block and cannot catch. I was shocked when they signed him to that fat contract. I don't know how a RB makes it to this level while not being able to passblock or catch but SA managed it. And now that Hutch is blocking for Minn, his running game is gone as well. I hope you guys are wrong and they don't bring SA back. he does not work in this type of offense. after that signing bonus.use the pass to set up the run. It may be a style that is suited better for Morris but I would like to see Alexander get the same opportunity.
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BigTuna
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He's been leading the team in dropped passes for years. And there's a reason they bring him to the sidelines when they pass. Because he can't block.Teach him how to block and catch passes. Even before the wrist was hurt he dropped a bunch of passes, preseason too. And his blocking...uh no comment. But it isn't good. A step above 'Ole'.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
DJax was always in the top 5 of the league, no way SA led the team ever.He's been leading the team in dropped passes for years. And there's a reason they bring him to the sidelines when they pass. Because he can't block.Teach him how to block and catch passes. Even before the wrist was hurt he dropped a bunch of passes, preseason too. And his blocking...uh no comment. But it isn't good. A step above 'Ole'.
MarcO
Footballguy
I think your complete contempt for Alexander is clouding your vision slightly. I counted at least 4 plays in the first half that Morris had nowhere to run and looked no better than Alexander - and another 5 or so plays that Morris had holes that Alexander hasn't seen all year - mostly due to the delayed draw type of plays that Alexander rarely gets. I'm not an Alexander apologist but everyone knows it's Alexander on 1st and 10, 2nd and 7, then a pass - it's pretty hard to make plays.
MarcO
Footballguy
he had 44, 59, and 42 catches respectively in 2001 - 2003. not bad for a guy that can't catch.Alexander did see the same opportunity years ago when Watters was the receiving/runningback. When the reigns were handed over to Alexander, they pain stakingly tried to fit him in. He simply cannot block and cannot catch. I was shocked when they signed him to that fat contract. I don't know how a RB makes it to this level while not being able to passblock or catch but SA managed it. And now that Hutch is blocking for Minn, his running game is gone as well. I hope you guys are wrong and they don't bring SA back. he does not work in this type of offense.
BigTuna
Footballguy
I'm not saying Morris is a better running back. I'm saying SA can't block or catch. The reason its SA on 1st and 10, 2nd and 7 and a pass is because he is undependable in the passing game. I say let him sit. QB lose their jobs all the time to injuries. As long as this works, stick with it. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm saying this as a long time seahawk fan not some FFL guy hoping to snag a few points out of their wasted first round pick.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Well I don't agree with your assessment. Yeah he had holes today, but he also ran through a lot of contact, something that SA hasn't been doing. He didn't power through people, but he didn't go down when a few guys got shots on him. A couple of twists and hops, picking up some extra yards. SA just curls up, turns backwards and stops his feet when he is in the same situations. And if SA could block or catch, he'd be in there more in situations where draws work. Fact of the matter is, Morris is more valuable to the team right now because he's more well rounded and plays with more heart.
BigTuna
Footballguy
yeah and he had 23, 15, 12, and 12 over the last 4 years. The RB's had 5 tonight. But more importantly, how many did the RB's drop tonight? I cringe everytime they throw SA the ball.he had 44, 59, and 42 catches respectively in 2001 - 2003. not bad for a guy that can't catch.Alexander did see the same opportunity years ago when Watters was the receiving/runningback. When the reigns were handed over to Alexander, they pain stakingly tried to fit him in. He simply cannot block and cannot catch. I was shocked when they signed him to that fat contract. I don't know how a RB makes it to this level while not being able to passblock or catch but SA managed it. And now that Hutch is blocking for Minn, his running game is gone as well. I hope you guys are wrong and they don't bring SA back. he does not work in this type of offense.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
What about 04, 05, 06 and 07? Think the NFL will let us borrow stats from 5 years ago to win games this year? What does five years ago have to do with today? A lot of players are different than they were then. Around the time he became a superstar he quit catching the ball. Last year and this year before the wrist injury he sucked in the passing game in addition to not being a very good blocker.he had 44, 59, and 42 catches respectively in 2001 - 2003. not bad for a guy that can't catch.Alexander did see the same opportunity years ago when Watters was the receiving/runningback. When the reigns were handed over to Alexander, they pain stakingly tried to fit him in. He simply cannot block and cannot catch. I was shocked when they signed him to that fat contract. I don't know how a RB makes it to this level while not being able to passblock or catch but SA managed it. And now that Hutch is blocking for Minn, his running game is gone as well. I hope you guys are wrong and they don't bring SA back. he does not work in this type of offense.
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BlueDredSo
Footballguy
I never knew Steve Young could be so annoying
BigTuna
Footballguy
What these last four years show is a lack of faith in SA as a receiver. Holmgren knows it, everyone else should by now.yeah and he had 23, 15, 12, and 12 over the last 4 years. The RB's had 5 tonight. But more importantly, how many did the RB's drop tonight? I cringe everytime they throw SA the ball.he had 44, 59, and 42 catches respectively in 2001 - 2003. not bad for a guy that can't catch.Alexander did see the same opportunity years ago when Watters was the receiving/runningback. When the reigns were handed over to Alexander, they pain stakingly tried to fit him in. He simply cannot block and cannot catch. I was shocked when they signed him to that fat contract. I don't know how a RB makes it to this level while not being able to passblock or catch but SA managed it. And now that Hutch is blocking for Minn, his running game is gone as well. I hope you guys are wrong and they don't bring SA back. he does not work in this type of offense.
If it were up to me, I would wait until SA was healthy enough to get his cast off, and bring him back around week 15 or 16. It would guarantee him to be fresh for the playoffs which is when we could use him. Last year he was very effective in the playoffs.I've said this before but the cast is the main reason for his struggles.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
And you're still wrong. I'm not saying it's a non factor. But there are so many more problems in his game than just the wrist. He was unimpressive in preseason and in games before he got hurt and before Strong was lost.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Darrell Jackson 20/237/1 Don't know how many drops but I can think of 2 or 3 not counting the one tonight on the first play which was well defended but still hit him in both hands. Tonight he had 1 catch for 4 yards. And this little tidbit from the Yahoo write up:
Darrell Jackson sat stewing at his locker long after most of his San Francisco teammates left Monday night, the longtime Seattle receiver still wearing his grass-stained 49ers uniform.
Trading him for a good OL prospect with a great name (Mansfield Wrotto) was one of the best moves they made in the offseason aside from getting two new safeties (note the lack of long pass plays against this year). They still would've come out on top if they just gave him away.
Darrell Jackson sat stewing at his locker long after most of his San Francisco teammates left Monday night, the longtime Seattle receiver still wearing his grass-stained 49ers uniform.
Trading him for a good OL prospect with a great name (Mansfield Wrotto) was one of the best moves they made in the offseason aside from getting two new safeties (note the lack of long pass plays against this year). They still would've come out on top if they just gave him away.
