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grateful zed
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all seed companies have armies, didnt you know that?
grateful zed
Footballguy
any food where they mention GMO and ROUNDUP READY is monsanto.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Does this deserve a bump? I'm familiar with Scahill, but not darkgovernment.com.
grateful zed
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grateful zed
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The Svalbard Global Seed Vault, or the Doomsday Vault as the media have nicknamed it, was officially opened on February 26, 2008, to serve as the ultimate safety net for one of the worlds most important natural resources.
The world's seed collections are vulnerable to a wide range of threats - civil strife, war, natural catastrophes, and, more routinely but no less damagingly, poor management, lack of adequate funding, and equipment failures. Unique varieties of our most important crops are lost whenever any such disaster strikes: securing duplicates of all collections in a global facility provides an insurance policy for the worlds food supply.
The Seed Vault is an answer to a call from the international community to provide the best possible assurance of safety for the worlds crop diversity, and in fact the idea for such a facility dates back to the 1980s. However, it was only with the coming into force of the International Treaty on Plant Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture, and with it an agreed international legal framework for conserving and accessing crop diversity, that the Vault became a practical possibility.
http://www.croptrust.org/main/arcticseedvault.php?itemid=211
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXW_vzQppGI
The world's seed collections are vulnerable to a wide range of threats - civil strife, war, natural catastrophes, and, more routinely but no less damagingly, poor management, lack of adequate funding, and equipment failures. Unique varieties of our most important crops are lost whenever any such disaster strikes: securing duplicates of all collections in a global facility provides an insurance policy for the worlds food supply.
The Seed Vault is an answer to a call from the international community to provide the best possible assurance of safety for the worlds crop diversity, and in fact the idea for such a facility dates back to the 1980s. However, it was only with the coming into force of the International Treaty on Plant Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture, and with it an agreed international legal framework for conserving and accessing crop diversity, that the Vault became a practical possibility.
http://www.croptrust.org/main/arcticseedvault.php?itemid=211
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXW_vzQppGI
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Alfalfa and soybeans are self pollinated. Hence the pretty little colored flowers to attract insects to do the job.
Corn is cross pollinated and seed companies will detassel sweet corn patches half a mile from their seed corn production fields.
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When roundup soybeans first came out, Pioneer(later purchased by Dupont) bought the the use of the patent. Rumor was they paid for it in the first year of rr soybean sales.
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I know of only two ways to control weeds, tillage or herbicides. (You can burn them but that doesn't do the crop much good)
With tillage the soil is loosened and the risk of wind and/or water erosion is greatly increased. Past generations would plow the field and the disc twice and harrow before planting. Then 1 or 2 rotary hoeings and 2 or 3 passes with a cultivator. The soil was constantly loosened from April until late June or early July.
Now it's either no-till or one pass with a field cultivator. Roundup and other non selective systemic herbicides have allowed this change. 1pt to 1 qt/ acre is used as a burn down and a second application is made a month to 6 weeks later to control the next flush of weeds.
Sometimes a half rate of a soil applied herbicide is mix with the first application to help control grass weeds and a broad leaf herbicide is added to the second.
What roundup has allowed the farmer to do is get better weed control while using less of the other herbicides. Also roundup, once it hits the soil is tightly bound to the soil particles and there is little chance of ground water contamination. Roundup also is one of the least toxic herbicides, it has the lowest warning level on it's label, you can buy the stuff at Wal-Mart.
Is it a carcinogen? I don't know, but I know it's safer than some of the other herbicides on the market. If it's a choice between soil erosion and roundup I'll take Roundup.
With tillage the soil is loosened and the risk of wind and/or water erosion is greatly increased. Past generations would plow the field and the disc twice and harrow before planting. Then 1 or 2 rotary hoeings and 2 or 3 passes with a cultivator. The soil was constantly loosened from April until late June or early July.
Now it's either no-till or one pass with a field cultivator. Roundup and other non selective systemic herbicides have allowed this change. 1pt to 1 qt/ acre is used as a burn down and a second application is made a month to 6 weeks later to control the next flush of weeds.
Sometimes a half rate of a soil applied herbicide is mix with the first application to help control grass weeds and a broad leaf herbicide is added to the second.
What roundup has allowed the farmer to do is get better weed control while using less of the other herbicides. Also roundup, once it hits the soil is tightly bound to the soil particles and there is little chance of ground water contamination. Roundup also is one of the least toxic herbicides, it has the lowest warning level on it's label, you can buy the stuff at Wal-Mart.
Is it a carcinogen? I don't know, but I know it's safer than some of the other herbicides on the market. If it's a choice between soil erosion and roundup I'll take Roundup.
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Hire some mexicans. Shotty cost control.Ignorance is bliss. Meanwhile, your taxes are higher thanks to environmental remediation of PCBs that Monsanto created. There are at least 20 people in the NY State environmental department alone whose jobs are to deal with PCB remediation. Each person costs the taxpayer about $100k a year in salary and benefits. Monsanto won't pay for the cleanup - it's up to the taxpayer. Fine upstanding corporation, Monsanto.Thank You Monsanto for giving me food and a full plate of meat raised on those products
No Monsanto Hate Here
Just enjoying my food
Ckev
I have no love for Monsanto. It's interesting that this environmental opposition tends to surface when patents expire as it has with RR soybeans. Believe the same thing happened with freon back when Dupont's patent was running out and surprise guess who had a replacement product. If this is incorrect on the freon I hope someone sets me straight.zeamax. I still think Monsanto is the devil for other things, but it is nice to see information on the other side.
Rootworms vs. Monsanto. It's kind of like when the Raiders play the Patriots. I don't know whom to root for.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
I'll take Rootworms +3.5 for 2 units.
grateful zed
Footballguy
october 16 is coming!!!
grateful zed
Footballguy
Topes
Footballguy
I believe in Monsanto, and I believe in Jesus. I am as Roundup Ready as the cornbeans I consume daily. Let the whiners whine.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
It was mentioned a bit in the Commish's American Food Industry thread: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=679309&page=2#entry15433709
I'm not sure I understand what the law does.
grateful zed
Footballguy
the administration is parting the red sea of environmental protection laws to pave the way for mega corporations.
just like like they did for fracking.
just like like they did for fracking.
grateful zed
Footballguy
American farmers are feeling the effects of a concentrated seed industry. Seed options are diminishing while prices increase at historic rates. A new report by the Farmer to Farmer Campaign, Out of Hand: Farmers Face the Consequences of a Consolidated Seed Industry, uses industry sources, government data, and personal interviews with farmers and seed industry representatives to document the consequences of concentration in the seed industry.
http://farmertofarmercampaign.com/
http://farmertofarmercampaign.com/
grateful zed
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The Center for Food Safety (CFS) is a national non-profit public interest and environmental advocacy organization working to protect human health and the environment by curbing the use of harmful food production technologies and by promoting organic and other forms of sustainable agriculture. CFS uses legal actions, groundbreaking scientific and policy reports, books and other educational materials, market pressure and grass roots campaigns through our True Food Network. CFS's successful legal cases collectively represent a landmark body of case law on food and agricultural issues.
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/
grateful zed
Footballguy
Organic Seed Growers & Trade Association et al. v. Monsanto was filed in federal district court in Manhattan, NY, on March 29, 2011, on behalf of 60 family farmers, seed businesses and agricultural organizations and challenges Monsanto’s patents on genetically engineered (GE) seed. This landmark lawsuit also seeks Court protection for family farmers who, through no fault of their own, may have become contaminated by Monsanto’s patented GE seed and find themselves accused of patent infringement.
http://www.osgata.org/
http://www.osgata.org/
grateful zed
Footballguy
After the incredible success of the grass-roots “March Against Monsanto” last Saturday, which saw over 2 million protesters in more than 50 countries worldwide, the march founders now plan to keep the momentum going by organizing more events to continue to educate the public on Monsanto and genetically modified foods.
http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/
http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/
grateful zed
Footballguy
Relentlessly rising greenhouse-gas emissions, and the fear that the earth might enter a climate emergency from which there would be no return, have prompted many climate scientists to conclude that we urgently need a Plan B: geoengineering.
Geoengineering — the deliberate, large-scale intervention in the climate system to counter global warming or offset some of its effects — may enable humanity to mobilize its technological power to seize control of the planet’s climate system, and regulate it in perpetuity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/opinion/geoengineering-our-last-hope-or-a-false-promise.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Gopher State
Footballguy
All the farmers I talk to are raving about the new seed options, I guess at 7.00 a bu corn and 14.00 bu beans you can afford to pay more if it yields more. I tell you now farmers are more worried about land prices 10,000 acre in sw MN then they are about seed costs.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
I don't have an issue with that aspect of it, I understand why they've positioned their patents that way. Farmers know going in that it's illegal to perpetuate it when they buy it. What really bothers me is the way it infiltrates other farmer's crops (contaminated farm equipment, blowing out during transportation, etc.) and once Monsanto has a positive sample they sue the living hell out of the innocent farmer. I wish instead of Monsanto being able to crush the farmers who were contaminated through no fault of their own that the farmers would be able to sue Monsanto for contamination. With each crop they genetically modify they've created a virus that will eventually (not if, but when) infiltrate every seed strain.
Wilfredo Ledezma
Footballguy
http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2013/07/illinois-illegally-seizes-bees.html#pAeOR08K2tFhOUSR.99
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The Illinois Ag Dept. illegally seized privately owned bees from renowned naturalist, Terrence Ingram, without providing him with a search warrant and before the court hearing on the matter, reports Prairie Advocate News.
Behind the obvious violations of his Constitutional rights is Monsanto. Ingram was researching Roundup’s effects on bees, which he’s raised for 58 years. “They ruined 15 years of my research,” he told Prairie Advocate, by stealing most of his stock.
A certified letter from the Ag Dept.’s Apiary Inspection Supervisor, Steven D. Chard, stated:
“During a routine inspection of your honeybee colonies by … Inspectors Susan Kivikko and Eleanor Balson on October 23, 2011, the bacterial disease ‘American Foulbrood’ was detected in a number of colonies located behind your house…. Presence of the disease in some of your colonies was confirmed via test results from the USDA Bee Research Laboratory in Beltsville, Maryland that analyzed samples collected from your apiary….”
Ingram can prove his bees did not have foulbrood, and planned to do so at a hearing set in April, but the state seized his bees at the end of March. They have not returned them and no one at the Ag Dept. seems to know where his bees are.
The bees could have been destroyed, or they could have been turned over to Monsanto to ascertain why some of his bees are resistant to Roundup. Without the bees as evidence, Ingram simply cannot defend against the phony charges of foulbrood.
Worse, all his queens died after Kivikko and Balson “inspected” his property, outside of his presence and without a warrant.
Of note, Illinois beekeepers are going underground after Ingram’s experience and refuse to register their hives, in case the state tries to steal their private property on phony claims.
Read more at http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2013/07/illinois-illegally-seizes-bees.html#FMYr7oUl7DLdJPAO.99
Natural Cures Not Medicine on Facebook: www.facebook.com/naturalcuresnotmedicine
The Illinois Ag Dept. illegally seized privately owned bees from renowned naturalist, Terrence Ingram, without providing him with a search warrant and before the court hearing on the matter, reports Prairie Advocate News.
Behind the obvious violations of his Constitutional rights is Monsanto. Ingram was researching Roundup’s effects on bees, which he’s raised for 58 years. “They ruined 15 years of my research,” he told Prairie Advocate, by stealing most of his stock.A certified letter from the Ag Dept.’s Apiary Inspection Supervisor, Steven D. Chard, stated:
“During a routine inspection of your honeybee colonies by … Inspectors Susan Kivikko and Eleanor Balson on October 23, 2011, the bacterial disease ‘American Foulbrood’ was detected in a number of colonies located behind your house…. Presence of the disease in some of your colonies was confirmed via test results from the USDA Bee Research Laboratory in Beltsville, Maryland that analyzed samples collected from your apiary….”
Ingram can prove his bees did not have foulbrood, and planned to do so at a hearing set in April, but the state seized his bees at the end of March. They have not returned them and no one at the Ag Dept. seems to know where his bees are.
The bees could have been destroyed, or they could have been turned over to Monsanto to ascertain why some of his bees are resistant to Roundup. Without the bees as evidence, Ingram simply cannot defend against the phony charges of foulbrood.
Worse, all his queens died after Kivikko and Balson “inspected” his property, outside of his presence and without a warrant.
Of note, Illinois beekeepers are going underground after Ingram’s experience and refuse to register their hives, in case the state tries to steal their private property on phony claims.
Read more at http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2013/07/illinois-illegally-seizes-bees.html#FMYr7oUl7DLdJPAO.99
T Bell
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phrozen
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grateful zed
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grateful zed
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Thousands took to streets across the world’s cities on Saturday to protest the use of GMO products, with Giant Monsanto being the main target. Over 50 countries have been taking part in the march for world food day, and across 47 different US states.
http://rt.com/news/monsanto-march-berlin-protest-115/
http://rt.com/news/monsanto-march-berlin-protest-115/
Rayderr
Footballguy
Have these people decided which couple billion people they want to die in exchange for no more GMOs?
NutterButter
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grateful zed
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grateful zed
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BigSteelThrill
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Rayderr
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grateful zed
Footballguy
link?Do some research on Norman Borlaug, my friend.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Elaborate your point.Do some research on Norman Borlaug, my friend.
Fennis
Footballguy
Its hard to find people against transparency in labeling. I understand why BigAg and chemical companies producing GMOs are against it.
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