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would carolina pick him back up?they never could find a replacement
No. I don't think they tag Berrian (at least I hope they don't). Booker = Moose, but Booker can likely be had cheaper. Both are old, slow, WRs with decent hands. As a Bear's fan, the cutting of Moose is really a non-issue.
Booker is 3 years younger with better hands.
It never made sense to not have Alex Brown starting with rotating Anderson in on obvious passing downs. Alex is solid all around although Anderson obviously is a better rusher but he just can not hold up against the run at all. To get that D back to the absolute top level- they need to bring in a DT that is decent to line up next to Tommy and even more importantly find someone to take Mike Brown's place. Arch simply is a liability in the passing game. Now getting back to the offense.... it does not take a genius to figure out that they need to bring in a QB. That is the biggest problem and they must fix it because the D and the running game were not up to the game of covering that fact up. They need to hope the line can make it through another year before they get put into forced retirement and/or bring in youth. I think they can play Wolfe and Peterson more and get away with the running game if the first two areas fall in line.
The Giants reinforced that you can never have too many good DEs. Now the DTs have to keep healing.
He was looking great before the injury. Was never sure if he just was not given much of a chance or just not really fully healed. I dropped him from my dynasty league but will be watching him closely to see if it looks like he gets more of a role. As for Hester, I just can not see him being an every down type of WR. He simply does not have the hands.
He sucks.He had ONE above average game against a Detroit team playing with three of their starting DBs out.He was healthy last year, and inactive for way too many games for me.Something's up with this guy, and it's not good.If he couldn't take PT away from an aging Moose, an average at best Rashied Davis, a gimmick play WR/returner - then something's up with this guy on the practice field and off the field.He did tie offensive tackle John St. Clair in TD receptions in Week 17 though.
In all fairness, the Bears thought they were a contender last year...so, that is why they wouldn't take a chance with a younger inexperienced guy (Bradley) over the proven veteran (Muhammed). I'm sure if they knew how it would have known how it was going to turn out, they would have given more time to others like Bradley to knwo where they really stood.He sucks.He had ONE above average game against a Detroit team playing with three of their starting DBs out.He was healthy last year, and inactive for way too many games for me.Something's up with this guy, and it's not good.If he couldn't take PT away from an aging Moose, an average at best Rashied Davis, a gimmick play WR/returner - then something's up with this guy on the practice field and off the field.He did tie offensive tackle John St. Clair in TD receptions in Week 17 though.
You couldn't be more wrong. The Bears were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by early December, and Bradley still wasn't seeing any relevant playing time.Again, I repeat - he didn't get his first TD until WEEK 17!!!He sucks.6 catches for 71 yards FOR THE SEASON, with one TD.FOUR catches in the month of December.Bizkiteer said:In all fairness, the Bears thought they were a contender last year...so, that is why they wouldn't take a chance with a younger inexperienced guy (Bradley) over the proven veteran (Muhammed). I'm sure if they knew how it would have known how it was going to turn out, they would have given more time to others like Bradley to knwo where they really stood.He sucks.He had ONE above average game against a Detroit team playing with three of their starting DBs out.He was healthy last year, and inactive for way too many games for me.Something's up with this guy, and it's not good.If he couldn't take PT away from an aging Moose, an average at best Rashied Davis, a gimmick play WR/returner - then something's up with this guy on the practice field and off the field.He did tie offensive tackle John St. Clair in TD receptions in Week 17 though.
There may be cheaper options than Moose, but what kind of talent will that be? Moose was going to be due a $500,000 roster bonus to go with his $1.5 million salary this coming year. Woooohoooo. That's not exactly expensive.I really don't understand why they dumped him. He was a minimal cost, and still a decent veteran WR.
I think they can sign Booker for less than 1.5 million and save the $500,000. Even if they pay Booker 1.5, they save the bonus moey which they can use elsewhere. Booker is also 3 years younger than Moose. Booker would be a decent veteran signing.How much do you think it would cost to sign someone like Bryant Johnson, a young talented receiver who has been hidden behind two very solid starters? Wouldn't it be worth putting money into a player like that?
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How much is he making? What are the cap results if he is released? The only way I see him staying is in a reserve role but if they are paying him starter money then they got to cut him or re-do his contract. He was a huge liability in that D last year and placed emphasis on how much Mike Brown meant to that D.
Booker could be the answer since he's probably not going to be worse than Moose but aren't other teams interested in him? I've read that the Pats are interested.I wonder what Bryant Johnson will command as well. Former first rounder, still young, big, has shown flashes, could be a very nice number 2 for someone. Probably lots of teams interested. Jacksonville, Carolina, Minnesota, Tennessee to name a few.
Hester has a ways to go before being a starting wr
It would be a dream come true if Briggs and Berrian would take less to stay in Chitown, but I don't see it happening. Ayanbadejo is still pissed that da Bears cut his brother, Femi, and after demanding 2 mil per season, I think he is gone. IMO, of the the players mentioned here, Tommy Harris is the only one Da Bears will break the bank for.
The guy has horrible hands. I suspect he is not a very good route runner but that may be unfair since the only route they have him run while put in the game is a go route. It sort of reminds me of when the Raiders James Jett on the team. Guy had all the speed in the world but never could be a consistent starting WR. Speed is a great thing as a WR and it can give you the possibility of being a big play guy but there is a lot more about being a WR than speed. In the end, I think trying to make Hester a WR will end up being a failure similiar to playing Anderson every down. Starter? I do not think he will ever be a viable NFL WR starter.
I'll bet we see a FA WR worse than Berrian get paid more than $7.8mil this off season.
You seem awfully sure that Bradley will have no impact. Jerry Angelo isn't singing the same tune. This excerpt is from a Jan 11 interview with the Chicago Tribune, as posted in the Bears pinned offseason thread:Q: Why has Mark Bradley failed to develop?A: When you go back to his rookie year I think everybody thought the kid had a chance to be a star. Part of it has been a couple of injuries. We brought Muhsin Muhammad in, and then Bernard Berrian started to come into his own. Mark was in transition, rehabbing that ACL. This year, I thought he was ready to make his move. It's just getting him on the field. There are only so many people you can get the ball to. Mark got caught up in that. But we still feel very good about Mark. When we have had him on the field the one thing he does is get open. We like what we've seen and still feel very good about him.Q: So would you see him as a potential replacement if the team loses free-agent-to-be Bernard Berrian?A: We certainly want Bernard back. But I would think if we lost him that Mark would be our first option and we would feel good about it. [Devin] Hester is in the mix too. And we could create competition with other options.You couldn't be more wrong. The Bears were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by early December, and Bradley still wasn't seeing any relevant playing time.Again, I repeat - he didn't get his first TD until WEEK 17!!!He sucks.6 catches for 71 yards FOR THE SEASON, with one TD.FOUR catches in the month of December.In all fairness, the Bears thought they were a contender last year...so, that is why they wouldn't take a chance with a younger inexperienced guy (Bradley) over the proven veteran (Muhammed). I'm sure if they knew how it would have known how it was going to turn out, they would have given more time to others like Bradley to knwo where they really stood.He sucks.He had ONE above average game against a Detroit team playing with three of their starting DBs out.He was healthy last year, and inactive for way too many games for me.Something's up with this guy, and it's not good.If he couldn't take PT away from an aging Moose, an average at best Rashied Davis, a gimmick play WR/returner - then something's up with this guy on the practice field and off the field.He did tie offensive tackle John St. Clair in TD receptions in Week 17 though.
The way Hester played at the end of the year it sure seems like the Bears want to get him involved. If they didnt have any future plans for him then why all the work at wr?
This was the same story at the U. He wasn't good enough to play WR FT and be a starter and he wasn't good enough..polished...to be a starting CB. That is why he left early and went to the NFL because he was a man without a position. He shows flashes and his athletisism will always shine through...he just isn't consistant.
Do me a favor, dig up the nonsense that Angelo gave us regarding Cedric Benson several weeks ago too.For Angelo to throw a high second round draft pick from three years ago under the bus would be admitting he messed up in a major way.The 1-2 punch of Benson and Bradley from a few years ago may go down as further proof that Angelo is not a good judge of offensive talent in the NFL Draft. Other than Bernard Berrian - NONE of his offensive draft picks have panned out to a hill of beans on Day One of the NFL Draft.You seem awfully sure that Bradley will have no impact. Jerry Angelo isn't singing the same tune. This excerpt is from a Jan 11 interview with the Chicago Tribune, as posted in the Bears pinned offseason thread:Q: Why has Mark Bradley failed to develop?A: When you go back to his rookie year I think everybody thought the kid had a chance to be a star. Part of it has been a couple of injuries. We brought Muhsin Muhammad in, and then Bernard Berrian started to come into his own. Mark was in transition, rehabbing that ACL. This year, I thought he was ready to make his move. It's just getting him on the field. There are only so many people you can get the ball to. Mark got caught up in that. But we still feel very good about Mark. When we have had him on the field the one thing he does is get open. We like what we've seen and still feel very good about him.Q: So would you see him as a potential replacement if the team loses free-agent-to-be Bernard Berrian?A: We certainly want Bernard back. But I would think if we lost him that Mark would be our first option and we would feel good about it. [Devin] Hester is in the mix too. And we could create competition with other options.You couldn't be more wrong. The Bears were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by early December, and Bradley still wasn't seeing any relevant playing time.Again, I repeat - he didn't get his first TD until WEEK 17!!!He sucks.6 catches for 71 yards FOR THE SEASON, with one TD.FOUR catches in the month of December.In all fairness, the Bears thought they were a contender last year...so, that is why they wouldn't take a chance with a younger inexperienced guy (Bradley) over the proven veteran (Muhammed). I'm sure if they knew how it would have known how it was going to turn out, they would have given more time to others like Bradley to knwo where they really stood.He sucks.He had ONE above average game against a Detroit team playing with three of their starting DBs out.He was healthy last year, and inactive for way too many games for me.Something's up with this guy, and it's not good.If he couldn't take PT away from an aging Moose, an average at best Rashied Davis, a gimmick play WR/returner - then something's up with this guy on the practice field and off the field.He did tie offensive tackle John St. Clair in TD receptions in Week 17 though.
I think he much improved at the end of the yr...
My point is not that Bradley is destined to become a star. It's that from the release of Muhammad and the comments of Angelo, it appears Bradley will be given opportunity. What he does with it, neither you or I know. But he's got youth on his side along with measurables and management. Given that he'll come cheaply for fantasy owners, Bradley seems to be worth a flyer.Do me a favor, dig up the nonsense that Angelo gave us regarding Cedric Benson several weeks ago too.For Angelo to throw a high second round draft pick from three years ago under the bus would be admitting he messed up in a major way.The 1-2 punch of Benson and Bradley from a few years ago may go down as further proof that Angelo is not a good judge of offensive talent in the NFL Draft. Other than Bernard Berrian - NONE of his offensive draft picks have panned out to a hill of beans on Day One of the NFL Draft.You seem awfully sure that Bradley will have no impact. Jerry Angelo isn't singing the same tune. This excerpt is from a Jan 11 interview with the Chicago Tribune, as posted in the Bears pinned offseason thread:Q: Why has Mark Bradley failed to develop?A: When you go back to his rookie year I think everybody thought the kid had a chance to be a star. Part of it has been a couple of injuries. We brought Muhsin Muhammad in, and then Bernard Berrian started to come into his own. Mark was in transition, rehabbing that ACL. This year, I thought he was ready to make his move. It's just getting him on the field. There are only so many people you can get the ball to. Mark got caught up in that. But we still feel very good about Mark. When we have had him on the field the one thing he does is get open. We like what we've seen and still feel very good about him.Q: So would you see him as a potential replacement if the team loses free-agent-to-be Bernard Berrian?A: We certainly want Bernard back. But I would think if we lost him that Mark would be our first option and we would feel good about it. [Devin] Hester is in the mix too. And we could create competition with other options.You couldn't be more wrong. The Bears were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by early December, and Bradley still wasn't seeing any relevant playing time.Again, I repeat - he didn't get his first TD until WEEK 17!!!He sucks.6 catches for 71 yards FOR THE SEASON, with one TD.FOUR catches in the month of December.In all fairness, the Bears thought they were a contender last year...so, that is why they wouldn't take a chance with a younger inexperienced guy (Bradley) over the proven veteran (Muhammed). I'm sure if they knew how it would have known how it was going to turn out, they would have given more time to others like Bradley to knwo where they really stood.He sucks.He had ONE above average game against a Detroit team playing with three of their starting DBs out.He was healthy last year, and inactive for way too many games for me.Something's up with this guy, and it's not good.If he couldn't take PT away from an aging Moose, an average at best Rashied Davis, a gimmick play WR/returner - then something's up with this guy on the practice field and off the field.He did tie offensive tackle John St. Clair in TD receptions in Week 17 though.
I'll say two things:1) The Bears seem to be moving in the right direction2) I find it odd that Hester's WR weakness is his hands. One of the more difficult things to catch in football is a wobbly punt or end-over-end kickoff in the wind - and yet, he seems fairly proficient. Is it simply a matter of concentration and/or comfort level? It's no secret that he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I would think hands and speed would be his strengths. Now, blocking and route running, otoh...
It's easy to run a fly pattern or stand and catch a screen, wait until he has to run more patterns...that is where the issues will come. Don't get me wrong, I love him as a 'Canes fan...you just have to know what's real and not. Maybe better put, what to expect and what not to expect. He will WOW you with his speed and athletic nature, but let that fool you. He is a man without a true position...other than KR or PR.
Grid, Bradley wasn't getting the PT for a few reasons.1) He is not a slot guy. On our team that is R. Davis or hester. So that means he would either have to outplay berrian or moose. Well with us being a contender, they didn't want to take that risk.
Hester was actually running some very good curl routes at the end of the season. The reason he was so successful at them was because the Defense had to give him tremendous cushion or else he would run by them.
Gee, let's blow a high second round pick on him. Hell, Vincent Jackson was still available back then.... He's not a world beater, but at least he has shown he can consistently contribute at the NFL level.Something's up with Bradley (between him and Lovie) that we don't know about.... Trust me. It's inexcuseable for him to get so few opportunities in December, especially with Berrian about to become a UFA.
Greg Olsen looks like the real deal.
Once in a while a squirrel finds a blind nut.Greg Olsen looks like the real deal.
Two players in six years. Not a high success rate imho
