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More Terrorism in France, or Something else? (1 Viewer)

need2know said:
It's a sad place we have come to.  But if we don't Start really doing something this #### won't stop.  Where is the leadership?  Never seem such a vaccum.  What needs to be done is right in front of us and no one has the balls to do what is needed.  Step up
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Please tell us exactly what so clearly needs to happen. Be specific. :popcorn:

 
Finally watched part if the video on Fox.  Geez,  guys.  ####### awful.  Damn.  Just hate this.  Awful.  Sad.  

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Orlando, Black lives Matter, we got plenty here to worry about right now. 

The more folks who want to cause problems in this country the more we are prone to similar attacks here in America. 

Also we are witnessing those with no direct contacts to ISIS but have bought into the brand as a way to thumb it to American Society as they are disillusioned for a variety of reasons to lengthy to cover in this little post. 
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Seriously, what the #### man?

 
need2know said:
It's a sad place we have come to.  But if we don't Start really doing something this #### won't stop.  Where is the leadership?  Never seem such a vaccum.  What needs to be done is right in front of us and no one has the balls to do what is needed.  Step up
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What specifically needs to be done general?

 
I think if nobody comes up with some concrete solutions, the call for mass deportations will get deafening and it will eventually be attempted.  So, someone better come up with a really good solution.

 
Riversco said:
I think if nobody comes up with some concrete solutions, the call for mass deportations will get deafening and it will eventually be attempted.  So, someone better come up with a really good solution.
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It sounds like the US is finally ready to cooperate witb Russia to fight ISIS

 
Just caught up on this thread.  Shouldn't have watched that video. :shock: :cry:

Spent 6 different weekends in Nice between '98 and '99.  Stayed at the Mercure Nice Promenade De Anglais which is only about 300m from where this attack took place.  I spent many mornings and evenings walking down the promenade, spent 3 days there with my wife when she came over for a visit (I was there for work) and we walked along there many times in that exact area.

You can get a good view of how the area is set up on google maps, but there is a divided road with 4 lanes on each side with a large walking area on the Med side that's at least 5 lanes wide for people to walk and bike.  Apparently, they shut down the road on the Med side to give more room for people to walk.  

This is just horrific.  I don't even know what else to say.  

 
whoknew said:
I reckon he's done research.

Ron Haddad is Dearborn’s chief of police, and he says he gets one question a lot when he travels around the country. “Someone will come up to me and put their finger in my face, and they’re already angry,” he says. “They say, ‘Will the people in your community report acts of terror to you?’“ 

What they mean is: Will Muslims turn in other Muslims?

Haddad has a ready answer. “Not only would they, they do,” he says. “They’ve done it.”

Dearborn and Mollenbeek, in fact, could not be more different, which says a lot about the very different ways that the United States and countries like Belgium and France have approached the problem of radicalization. In a city where nearly a third of the approximately 95,000 residents are Arab-American or of Arab descent, Haddad’s department has a deep network of contacts in the community and makes regular visits to Dearborn’s 38 schools and its many mosques. He sponsors a program called “Stepping Up,” which includes an annual awards ceremony (the next is April 12) for residents reporting crime. At least twice in the past several years, fearing influence from ISIL or online propaganda on their children, Haddad says, Muslim fathers have turned in their own sons. In another case, it was students at a largely Muslim high school calling about a troubled peer.
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Say wullah, bro.

 
It is a big deal, but in the last couple of decades there have been hundreds or even thousands of terrorist-related deaths in each of many countries, including India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Colombia, Peru. Nigeria, Somalia, etc. Peru survived and is thriving now. Same with India and Colombia. Our intelligence, with the help of Muslims and other citizens is doing a good job. Events like this galvanize the international intelligence community even more.      

 
tone1oc said:
Let's be honest here, you'd probably be miserable living anywhere.
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Why the personal jabs? Just stay on point Gravyboy. Now I would like to know if you would enjoy the flood of Muslims Euro has experienced of late?

I'm not trying to flame you, just asking and trying to further the discussion. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Why the personal jabs? Just stay on point Gravyboy. Now I would like to know if you would enjoy the flood of Muslims Euro has experienced of late?

I'm not trying to flame you, just asking and trying to further the discussion. 
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You're probably right.. Kind of **** move, but he does seem miserable based on posts. 

 
I'm not in favor of internment camps by any stretch, but it's gonna come up. Deportation or internment. What are you going to do, France?!

I don't think reasonable people can solve this problem.

 
Mister CIA said:
I'm not in favor of internment camps by any stretch, but it's gonna come up. Deportation or internment. What are you going to do, France?!

I don't think reasonable people can solve this problem.
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I think reasonable people will oppose deportation and internment. I think reasonable people won't even discuss such "solutions" and shun those who do. 

 
flapgreen said:
You don't have to be a General to think something needs to be done,  just like you don't have to be one to think the leaders are doing everything they can. 
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So other than saying "something HAS to be done".......what has to be done? You don't think we are going after Isis? 

 
SoBeDad said:
It is a big deal, but in the last couple of decades there have been hundreds or even thousands of terrorist-related deaths in each of many countries, including India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Colombia, Peru. Nigeria, Somalia, etc. Peru survived and is thriving now. Same with India and Colombia. Our intelligence, with the help of Muslims and other citizens is doing a good job. Events like this galvanize the international intelligence community even more.      
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None of those countries are like France or the US.  Things are very different now. I keep reading these things like this is going to make us better at hunting them down,  not that the attacks continue to occur and they're not slowing down.  This isn't good. 

 
Mister CIA said:
I'm not in favor of internment camps by any stretch, but it's gonna come up. Deportation or internment. What are you going to do, France?!

I don't think reasonable people can solve this problem.
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Internment camps  

lol

no wonder that orange ###hole has a chance. What a dumb country. 

 
Capella said:
Internment camps  

lol

no wonder that orange ###hole has a chance. What a dumb country. 
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I'm not promoting this idea, just stating that some people with political clout will "logically" support the notion.

 
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My solution is to evacuate Jerusalem, Mecca and Vatican City - and then level every building and structure within these cities. If we can't have nice things, neither can you.

... and drop cheap devices in the middle east with preloaded pro-American pron.

 
Has anyone posted about the idea this truck originally was supposed to detonate and perhpas since the explosives did not go off that the driver instead just started driving and eventually picked up speed and decided to try and run as many as he could over while he was still alive?

Or was he trying to detonate along the way taking out even more along the sides of this route or a hotel/restaurant/multiple?

Just curious if this could have been 500-1,000 we are reading about who are dead. 

 
We need a crusade.  They need to die.  Yesterday.  I'm not gonna act like I have the specifics.  But they seem to want death.   Let's give them what they want 

 
timschochet said:
I think reasonable people will oppose deportation and internment. I think reasonable people won't even discuss such "solutions" and shun those who do. 
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What ISIS wants is full on near apocalypse. They want to see the world burn and chalk full of murderous psychopaths.

 
need2know said:
We need a crusade.  They need to die.  Yesterday.  I'm not gonna act like I have the specifics.  But they seem to want death.   Let's give them what they want 
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Who is they?

You realize we are killing many terrorists/ISIS every day right?

 
I propose a TSA agent checks a person's credentials before anyone is allowed to move a truck.  That worked well for the airline industry

 
need2know said:
We need a crusade.  They need to die.  Yesterday.  I'm not gonna act like I have the specifics.  But they seem to want death.   Let's give them what they want 
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There is no way to achieve this without figuring out the specifics. I don't think there is anyone here that wouldn't love to see every member of ISIS die a grisly miserable death. No matter what our politics, we are all united on this. Everybody, no matter how liberal or conservative, wants to see them dead. 

But how best to do it is the question. There's a lot to consider. 

 
US citizens are losing on all fronts.  The jihadists kill people.  Then our leaders give the NSA more and more power to spy on everything.  The whole thing sucks on so many levels.

 
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