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Seeds get planted, there wasn't always a path of radicalism.
You mean like the last several attacks here were homegrown yet people bring up muslim bans? Seems like it, yes.
So there is really nothing we can do to stop the home grown attacks. I have pretty much accepted this
1. Our current actions are getting results. Why must some of you keep ignoring that?
The results our current actions are getting is to get Le Pen elected. Why do you ignore that?
We stop quite a few of them. Intel and as has been shown in links here, there are moderate muslims that turn in the radicals.
Unfortunately you are correct. We have all got to start being more aware and have a plan when in large crowds. My rule #1 is going to be don't hide in a confined space with no exit. Rule #2 is if applicable keep moving as quickly as possiblein an serpentine fashion away from terrorist and don't stop until you are sure you are safe.
Not sure why people are having a difficult time acknowledging it. This is the current world we live in. Just the way it is and will be for the foreseeable future.
Im talking about the OS, not us affecting elections in other countries.
Have you considered the possibility that "our current climate" and our "inability to find a middle ground" might be partially due to people thinking they know everything and refusing to consider any evidence that might contradict their assumptions?
No lie, has there even been a case of an extremist sneaking across the southern border? This seems like a week argument we heard after 9/11, that Al queda is going to get a nuke over or some such.Have you considered the possibility that "our current climate" and our "inability to find a middle ground" might be partially due to people thinking they know everything and refusing to consider any evidence that might contradict their assumptions?
We would need thousands upon thousands on the ground in the Middle East for years to educate a new generation of people who don't want us there. We can't force them to do the right thing.
This type of incident only strengthens Trump. People are fed up and will grasp at anything that sounds like a payback solution.
And yet, we still try to overthrow governments because we "know" whats best for them.Have you considered the possibility that "our current climate" and our "inability to find a middle ground" might be partially due to people thinking they know everything and refusing to consider any evidence that might contradict their assumptions?
It is about degrees of freedom. I'd say forced deportation is a hard absolute right. Immigration, police state, and surveillance polices are more ambiguous. People can disagree with how reasonable it is to restrict different aspects of each.
I absolutely do...have you?Have you considered the possibility that "our current climate" and our "inability to find a middle ground" might be partially due to people thinking they know everything and refusing to consider any evidence that might contradict their assumptions?
True that, stop giving money to anyone in the middle east and that includes Israel, lets let this play out for a decade or so and see the results. How could it be any worse then it is now?
While this approach is not as immoral as deportations and internment, it is every bit as simplistic and unworkable. We can't back away from ANYWHERE. We live in a global society. We are the leaders of the free world and have been since 1945. There is no going backwards.
We've held onto the removal of Assad demands for far too long. I agree it would be ideal if he would go, but these removals of dictatorships have not worked out well for us.
I had 2 words for that, but people kept getting upset at their proper use.
We absolutely can back away, why are we still in Iraq? Afghanistan? Makes no sense. And stop giving them money. Its not a hard concept to grasp.
Well yeah, I wrote it. I also didn't write this about whether we're doing a good job vetting arrivals (or anything else): "please don't say we are and I don't care what silly link you provide." That sure sounds like someone refusing to consider anything that might contradict his assumptions to me.
The case you are looking for the Kathryn Steinle
Of course it's not a hard concept to grasp. That's the thing about simple concepts- they're always easy to grasp. Of course, that's also the reason they rarely work.
I guess the word "extremist" was the key in the post.
Being "moral" has no place in our international policy, we tried it, it doesnt work.
I disagree. But assuming I accept your premise, it remains in our best interests not to let the current government in Iraq collapse.
Every day that we persist in imposing our ideals on people who neither want, nor are ready for, those ideals - we are going backwards. We are digging a hole, that gets harder and harder to fill in.
no it doesnt, let it burn then let a dictator figure it out. Its the only way. Democracy doesnt work over there.
We should never say never...Apparently our approach as the world do- gooder (in the middle east) only incites more violence/ terrorism....Why keep beating our head against a wall.
Sinn Fein I don't disagree with anything that you wrote here. In fact, it's very similar to a lot of arguments I have made myself over the years.
We would and have restricted immigration based on illness - remember we restricted Haitian immigration because of AIDS? Well, radical Islam is an illness - a mental illness. Restricting immigration from countries that support or contain large numbers of said radicals is a rational policy.
This was good advice BEFORE we invaded in 2003. Now, it's too late.
Barely in Iraq? We have 6500 ground troops there, not to mention two carriers deployed there, which hold 5000 sailors each. Not to mention the destroyers, frigates, cruisers, and submarines that are along side the carrier. Not to mention all of the people working stateside on that specific region. Not to mention people deployed in the Air Force, who have the luxury of being in a more American friendly Mid East country but still conduct missions in Iraq. We easily have 100,000+ military people working to keep Iraq together when you count it all up. I would hardly call that barely over there.
