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Mortensen praises Simms (1 Viewer)
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duaneok66
Footballguy
I guess he hasn't made a trip to Indiana . . .
Gargoylez
Footballguy
I hate when the media does this, especially to a player I love.ugggg. I agree Simms is going to be good this year, but lets not go bonkers.I do give kudos tho... going out on a limb like that.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
I've heard the same from other sources. People forget how impressive Simms was last year given his experience/age.
doughboydeluxe
Footballguy
Sometimes I think Mort feels like he gets lost in all of the personalities at ESPN and just has to throw some comment out there that makes you go 
every now and then just so people don't forget he's there.
every now and then just so people don't forget he's there.
valhallan
Footballguy
Agreed. He was also very good in the playoffs but it went largely unnoticed.
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
I'm just here to wait on the Longhorn fans to call him a failure.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
LOL, did he also mention that Simms is the only Quarterback he's seen so far this offseason?
JayMan
Footballguy
Do you agree with him that Jay Cutler will have the best overall career out of the QBs that were available for the draft? (If I'm not mistaken Jaworski is in love with Cutler)I'm just asking - I don't have a clear answer to this one myself... just seeking knowledgeable opinions......love Jaws.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
To be honest I didn't see enough of Cutler to have an informed opinion. I was unimpressed when I did see him, but since I only saw him in a couple of games I can't really say. I'll say this, when Jaws had praise for Cutler it made me think twice about my first impressions.If you put a gun to my head I'd say Leinart has the best chance of long term success in the NFL.Do you agree with him that Jay Cutler will have the best overall career out of the QBs that were available for the draft? (If I'm not mistaken Jaworski is in love with Cutler)I'm just asking - I don't have a clear answer to this one myself... just seeking knowledgeable opinions...
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Otis
Footballguy
Simms = undervalued.
That offense has sleeper powerhouse potential when you consider Cadillac in his second season and Clayton's return to health as well as Boston as a potential 3rd or 4th option, and Alex Smith with another year in the system. It could be a very balanced attack, and I like the prospects for this offense to improve substantially this year.
That offense has sleeper powerhouse potential when you consider Cadillac in his second season and Clayton's return to health as well as Boston as a potential 3rd or 4th option, and Alex Smith with another year in the system. It could be a very balanced attack, and I like the prospects for this offense to improve substantially this year.
doughboydeluxe
Footballguy
I agree that Simms is undervalued this year, but to call him the best quarterback he's seen this year is just hyperbole for hyperbole's sake.
facook
Footballguy
I heard the interview, and Mort qualified his statement by acknowledging he'd only watched Simms for two days. For those two days, he looked better than any other QB he's seen on this trip. It's not hyperbole, it's honest analysis of a small sample.
doughboydeluxe
Footballguy
If the trip includes three or four places, then you are correct, but the impression I got from the original post was that Mort had been to quite a few places this offseason. If Mort had just made a trip through the southeast (Tennessee, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Miami, Carolina, TB), then the quote makes much more sense.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Does the gun read: PAC 10 = CONFERENCE OF CHAMPIONS ?To be honest I didn't see enough of Cutler to have an informed opinion. I was unimpressed when I did see him, but since I only saw him in a couple of games I can't really say. I'll say this, when Jaws had praise for Cutler it made me think twice about my first impressions.Do you agree with him that Jay Cutler will have the best overall career out of the QBs that were available for the draft? (If I'm not mistaken Jaworski is in love with Cutler)I'm just asking - I don't have a clear answer to this one myself... just seeking knowledgeable opinions...
If you put a gun to my head I'd say Leinart has the best chance of long term success in the NFL.
valhallan
Footballguy
He said he had been to 7 camps. E-mail him and ask which ones if it's so important. I posted this to start some discussion on Simms, not to mull over the validity of Mortensen's statement.If the trip includes three or four places, then you are correct, but the impression I got from the original post was that Mort had been to quite a few places this offseason. If Mort had just made a trip through the southeast (Tennessee, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Miami, Carolina, TB), then the quote makes much more sense.
I would LOVE it if I could squeeze one more great year out of Galloway - if not just to get some trade value out of him at the trading deadline. Go Simms!
aldelgreco
Footballguy
You're the only failure, aggy.I guess you'll only be more bitter this Novemeber when we make it 7 in a row.
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MLBrandow
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As a Bucs fan, I'm not ready to go nuts yet, but I have to admit that TC from what I've read/seen, Simms and the offense as a whole have greatly exceeded my expectations thusfar, and lead me to want to boost him a bit more in my rankings.I'm not ready to pounce just yet, but you have to like a 3rd year system of Gruden's to emerge.'02, '03 was really just tweaks on the old Buc offense, and from '04 to now he's been rebuilding the unit to his fancy.Same with Oakland, and same with Philadelphia, that third year of rebuilding is when the passing game has really taken off.So we'll see.Simms, Galloway, Clayton have all been together for three years, and now this is the second season in a row that pretty much all 11 guys will have been working as a cohesive unit.I'm still tempering my expectations, as I believe it won't be until next year that we see the Bucs back to full-fledged championship form, but this year should be very close.I've got Simms pegged in for about 3500/25 as a high-end projection, which should definitely put him solidly above his current QB23 ADP.Again, as a Bucs fan, it's hard to hold the excitement of a top-10 offense inward, but I believe it will likely take one more year for the offense to be fully realized.Cadillac still needs improvement in receiving, the OL needs to be able to maintain enough control on the DL so Simms's balls don't keep getting batted down, some areas of pass-blocking will need to be improved.... little things that will take this offense to the top. We should see a lot of flashes this year, but it won't be until '07 IMO that this team joins the NFL elite.
You should trade him sooner rather than later... I've heard whispers that Boston is actually pushing to replace Galloway in certain packages, since he's a much better run-blocker and still a solid deep threat. Of course the trio of Clayton, Boston and Galloway have been making highlight reel catches on a daily basis, so with the ball being spread around as much as it's likely to be, you're already looking at handicapped value for Galloway to begin with. Pittman/Cadillac, and to a lesser extent Alstott should combine for near 100 receptions out of the backfield, and add in Alex Smith, who figures to grab 40+ balls this year, it's hard to get excited on the idea of "holding on" to Galloway this year.
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skillz
Footballguy
I thought Jaws said during the NFL draft that Kellen Clemens would be the best QB out of the 2006 draft class, and that Mike Mayock was the analyst who was a huge Cutler fan. But maybe I am wrongDo you agree with him that Jay Cutler will have the best overall career out of the QBs that were available for the draft? (If I'm not mistaken Jaworski is in love with Cutler)I'm just asking - I don't have a clear answer to this one myself... just seeking knowledgeable opinions...
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I like Simms, even though he does have a bad rap from his college days as an underachiever. But I think he has overcome that with the Bucs and matured as a leader for this team. The offense is balanced and there are a lot of weapons at his disposal.
Plus if you are in a league that gives points for long TDs, Chris Simms throws one of the best deep balls in the league. I would rank him 3rd behind Palmer and P.Manning for the ability to throw an accurate (and pretty) deep spiral.
Plus if you are in a league that gives points for long TDs, Chris Simms throws one of the best deep balls in the league. I would rank him 3rd behind Palmer and P.Manning for the ability to throw an accurate (and pretty) deep spiral.
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
You guys are quick to forget the humility that came along with quite a few straight curbstompings at the hands of the Aggies during the late 80s and early 90s.Either way, I wouldn't be so sure of anything with QBs as green as yours.
You're the only failure, aggy.I guess you'll only be more bitter this Novemeber when we make it 7 in a row.
massraider
Footballguy
I haven't seen much of Simms, in college, or in Tampa (just never caught a lot of their games). Interested in what the TC reports have been.
Maybe just as important, I'm interested in the reports on Clayton.
Maybe just as important, I'm interested in the reports on Clayton.
While the aggies are starting the "super-experienced" McGee? The aggie QB is not much more experienced than McCoy for Texas. And while I'll admit there are a small minority of Texas fans that rag on Simms for some reason, most do not think he's a failure and are proud of his NFL success.Here's to Vince Young and Chris Simms both being in the pro bowl within the next few years!You guys are quick to forget the humility that came along with quite a few straight curbstompings at the hands of the Aggies during the late 80s and early 90s.Either way, I wouldn't be so sure of anything with QBs as green as yours.
You're the only failure, aggy.I guess you'll only be more bitter this Novemeber when we make it 7 in a row.
redman
Footballguy
Agreed. Mort is a good NFL reporter.
Jaws is a good NFL evaluator.
There's a difference, and it's an important one here because this is a statement about evaluation.
Now, am I shocked by this statement about Simms? No, because I saw him vs. the 'Skins twice and came away impressed both times. He could be very good.
aldelgreco
Footballguy
It always comes to that for you guys. Are things so bad that we have to resort to smack talk from over 15 years ago? I guess so. Cheating will do a hell of a lot for a program...I hope McGee tries to run the option all season like he did agaisnt us at DeadDog Field this last season during your biggest (moral) victory. He will be done by the time your conference schedule opens against tek.And that 4-2-5 D is daunting, let me tell you. pooooooooooooooooooooooooor aggy.You guys are quick to forget the humility that came along with quite a few straight curbstompings at the hands of the Aggies during the late 80s and early 90s.Either way, I wouldn't be so sure of anything with QBs as green as yours.
You're the only failure, aggy.I guess you'll only be more bitter this Novemeber when we make it 7 in a row.
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
He led the Ags to 29 points against a dominant UTexas defense. I feel pretty good about that.Either way, I'm not here to pick fights with t-sips. I try to root for the Horns all but one game of the year, but sore winner fans make it difficult.But do keep the "15 yr old" argument in mind when the positions are juxtaposed in the future should you make the argument yourself.
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MLBrandow
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Buccaneers.com has some good analysis of each practice (buried in some places through some hard fluff).As stated above, IMO they look like a top passing attack. Clayton is fine and while he hasn't stood out among Galloway/Boston/Gessner/etc, it's because they've all looked so great that there hasn't really been a big winner yet.If I were Gruden I'd put Boston opposite Clayton and push Galloway to the slot, but I'm pretty sure he wants to keep continuity as much as possible, and wants to ease Galloway out of the primary role this year so Simms can build a better rapport with Boston/Clayton/Stovall/Smith (his receivers of the future).We'll see though. I have tempered expectations all around, and am avoiding TB receivers this year, because they may all cancel each other out, and that means they would all be marginal buys at best.
Capella
Footballguy
Jaws said last year (don't remember exact quote) that he'd rather have Simms than Eli Manning.
Capella
Footballguy
Gruden wants to win this year. Galloway is his best receiver. No way that guy is getting eased out of anything.
Shrek
Having a great season
But he didn't say that Simms was the most impressive QB that he's seen this offseason. I know Jaws likes him, but he's not going to put himself out on a limb like that at this point.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
LHUCKS
Footballguy
You get the ball to your playmakers.
Chaka
Footballguy
He may be improved but still not put up better numbers. Check out Tampa Bay's schedule, there are very few, if any, defenses that look like favorable matchups.Baltimore@AtlantaCarolina@New OrleansCincinattiPhiladelphia@New York GiantsNew Orleans@CarolinaWashington@Dallas@PittsburghAtlanta@Chicago@ClevelandSeattle
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Simms here.
Chaka
Footballguy
Just like any other position.However we all have a pretty good idea which teams (or players) are likely to finish near the top of their group in a given year and Carolina (x2), Pittsburgh, Washington and Chicago are all looking like top 10 D's this year. And Baltimore, Atlanta, Philadelphia and the Giants sure haven't done anything to hurt themselves in the offseason.I agree you shouldn't put to much weight into defensive predictions but you would be foolish to ignore them when ranking players.
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