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Moss is "in the best shape of his life." (1 Viewer)

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http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

DiPiero told Twin Cities television station KSTP that Moss was in excellent shape and "ran a 4.26, 4.28, and a 4.31 (seconds in the 40-yard dash) during one of his workouts last week. He's in the best shape of his life."

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More fluff? Who knows. I'm usually disappointed on draft day after weeks and weeks of talk and NOTHING happens! :goodposting:

 
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

DiPiero told Twin Cities television station KSTP that Moss was in excellent shape and "ran a 4.26, 4.28, and a 4.31 (seconds in the 40-yard dash) during one of his workouts last week. He's in the best shape of his life."

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More fluff? Who knows. I'm usually disappointed on draft day after weeks and weeks of talk and NOTHING happens! :wub:
How many times have you heard the best shape of his life statement?? That means I want more$$$
 
While I wouldnt believe anything until I see it, people forget a couple pretty key facts.

First, Moss is still but two years removed from the greatest start to a receiving career. Ever.

Second, which is obviously related to the first, is that Moss' physical talents could very well be the greatest the game has ever seen at WR.

I don't expect to ever see "that" Moss again.

But I'd never discount it, either. He's a freak (in a damn good way), for a reason.

 
While I wouldnt believe anything until I see it, people forget a couple pretty key facts.First, Moss is still but two years removed from the greatest start to a receiving career. Ever. Second, which is obviously related to the first, is that Moss' physical talents could very well be the greatest the game has ever seen at WR.I don't expect to ever see "that" Moss again.But I'd never discount it, either. He's a freak (in a damn good way), for a reason.
A certain meter maid would call him a freak (or somesuch) in a not so good way though...
 
While I wouldnt believe anything until I see it, people forget a couple pretty key facts.First, Moss is still but two years removed from the greatest start to a receiving career. Ever. Second, which is obviously related to the first, is that Moss' physical talents could very well be the greatest the game has ever seen at WR.I don't expect to ever see "that" Moss again.But I'd never discount it, either. He's a freak (in a damn good way), for a reason.
:wub:
 
40 time <> either heart or commitment to team (i.e., not being a quitter).

Unless they can figure out a way to measure that, I'd still be very wary. And remember, it wasn't just last year in OAK either that he quit. He had an incident or two in Minnesota his last year there too and wore out his welcome for it.

 
While I wouldnt believe anything until I see it, people forget a couple pretty key facts.First, Moss is still but two years removed from the greatest start to a receiving career. Ever. Second, which is obviously related to the first, is that Moss' physical talents could very well be the greatest the game has ever seen at WR.I don't expect to ever see "that" Moss again.But I'd never discount it, either. He's a freak (in a damn good way), for a reason.
:wub: And he just now turned 30. How many WRs blossomed in their 30s? And how many of those WRs had anything close to Moss's talent? If he can just get some place where he has a little respect for his coach or another player a la Favre, he's good for another 400 receptions, 6000 yards and 50 TDs.
 
Randy's agent making reference to his client's 40 times is about as reliable as some skank pig on an internet dating service claiming that she's 36-24-36 with a face to match.

 
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Why would he be running timed 40's exactly?
Maybe he's under the impression since he played for a college team last year he can go back into the draft. I'd hate to be the guy to inform him oakland is not a college team. Well, maybe a team from the WAC.
 
While I wouldnt believe anything until I see it, people forget a couple pretty key facts.

First, Moss is still but two years removed from the greatest start to a receiving career. Ever.

Second, which is obviously related to the first, is that Moss' physical talents could very well be the greatest the game has ever seen at WR.

I don't expect to ever see "that" Moss again.

But I'd never discount it, either. He's a freak (in a damn good way), for a reason.
:thumbup: And he just now turned 30. How many WRs blossomed in their 30s? And how many of those WRs had anything close to Moss's talent? If he can just get some place where he has a little respect for his coach or another player a la Favre, he's good for another 400 receptions, 6000 yards and 50 TDs.
I don't know, please give some "blossomed" examples. You know, of someone who started a decline and then started improving again. Not talking about Rice or Harrison, etc. Those guys didn't decline severely in their late 20s and then blow up again after 30.Maybe there is an example, but I would love to know of a WR that was say a Pro-Bowler or top 10, then declined for a few years and then came back as a Pro-Bowler/top 10 for either 1 freak season or actually sustained it.

 
Randy's agent making reference to his client's 40 times is about as reliable about some skank pig on an internet dating service claiming that she's 36-24-36 with a face to match.
True story -- I met a woman online in a chat room in the 90s who was from Holland. She was visiting the U.S. and was going across the country, staying with people she knew from this chat site. She wanted to come here, I agreed, and sent me a picture during all this. Pretty hot. When she arrived at the airport, I was looking for this babe in the picture, not the 220 lb UGLY heifer that walked up to me. Her explanation was that she was afraid if I really knew how she looked, I wouldn't have agreed to have her here. She still claimed it was her in the pic, but that she'd gained 'a little weight.' Uh huh....

She was going to stay 10 days, but after 4 days I was so sick of her I sent her off to the next fool in San Jose or wherever else it was she was going. What a disaster.

And her 40 time was probably lousy too.

 
I wouldn't be surprised if everyone doesn't time themselves in the offseason. Perhaps they cannot tell if they are losing a step, or have dealt with injuries and want to know if their body has recovered in ways they cannot detect, so they measure how their bodies perform in the way they know how. Is this so strange?

 
Randy's agent making reference to his client's 40 times is about as reliable about some skank pig on an internet dating service claiming that she's 36-24-36 with a face to match.
True story -- I met a woman online in a chat room in the 90s who was from Holland. She was visiting the U.S. and was going across the country, staying with people she knew from this chat site. She wanted to come here, I agreed, and sent me a picture during all this. Pretty hot. When she arrived at the airport, I was looking for this babe in the picture, not the 220 lb UGLY heifer that walked up to me. Her explanation was that she was afraid if I really knew how she looked, I wouldn't have agreed to have her here. She still claimed it was her in the pic, but that she'd gained 'a little weight.' Uh huh....

She was going to stay 10 days, but after 4 days I was so sick of her I sent her off to the next fool in San Jose or wherever else it was she was going. What a disaster.

And her 40 time was probably lousy too.
:popcorn:
 
While I wouldnt believe anything until I see it, people forget a couple pretty key facts.

First, Moss is still but two years removed from the greatest start to a receiving career. Ever.

Second, which is obviously related to the first, is that Moss' physical talents could very well be the greatest the game has ever seen at WR.

I don't expect to ever see "that" Moss again.

But I'd never discount it, either. He's a freak (in a damn good way), for a reason.
:popcorn: And he just now turned 30. How many WRs blossomed in their 30s? And how many of those WRs had anything close to Moss's talent? If he can just get some place where he has a little respect for his coach or another player a la Favre, he's good for another 400 receptions, 6000 yards and 50 TDs.
I don't know, please give some "blossomed" examples. You know, of someone who started a decline and then started improving again. Not talking about Rice or Harrison, etc. Those guys didn't decline severely in their late 20s and then blow up again after 30.Maybe there is an example, but I would love to know of a WR that was say a Pro-Bowler or top 10, then declined for a few years and then came back as a Pro-Bowler/top 10 for either 1 freak season or actually sustained it.
Not going to dig too deep, but some current players who had very good seasons early in their careers, a few hiccups and then regained their form: Terry Glenn, Joey Galloway, Laveranues Coles and Isaac Bruce.And to compare Moss to Harrison and Rice is a little unfair. Both of those guys would have suffered a drop-off if they'd have had to play for the Raiders the last few years themselves.

 
Deon Sanders could still run 4.40 when he went to the Ravens.

Moss - 4.25 40

While at Florida State, it was claimed that Moss ran a 4.25 40-yard dash while only Deion Sanders, with a 4.23 40-yard dash, had achieved better.[1]

 
While I wouldnt believe anything until I see it, people forget a couple pretty key facts.

First, Moss is still but two years removed from the greatest start to a receiving career. Ever.

Second, which is obviously related to the first, is that Moss' physical talents could very well be the greatest the game has ever seen at WR.

I don't expect to ever see "that" Moss again.

But I'd never discount it, either. He's a freak (in a damn good way), for a reason.
:no: And he just now turned 30. How many WRs blossomed in their 30s? And how many of those WRs had anything close to Moss's talent? If he can just get some place where he has a little respect for his coach or another player a la Favre, he's good for another 400 receptions, 6000 yards and 50 TDs.
I don't know, please give some "blossomed" examples. You know, of someone who started a decline and then started improving again. Not talking about Rice or Harrison, etc. Those guys didn't decline severely in their late 20s and then blow up again after 30.Maybe there is an example, but I would love to know of a WR that was say a Pro-Bowler or top 10, then declined for a few years and then came back as a Pro-Bowler/top 10 for either 1 freak season or actually sustained it.
Not going to dig too deep, but some current players who had very good seasons early in their careers, a few hiccups and then regained their form: Terry Glenn, Joey Galloway, Laveranues Coles and Isaac Bruce.And to compare Moss to Harrison and Rice is a little unfair. Both of those guys would have suffered a drop-off if they'd have had to play for the Raiders the last few years themselves.
How bout Henry Ellard in '94 after a disappointing two seasons with the Rams?+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Rushing | Receiving |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| 1983 ram | 12 | 3 7 2.3 0 | 16 268 16.8 0 |

| 1984 ram | 16 | 3 -5 -1.7 0 | 34 622 18.3 6 |

| 1985 ram | 16 | 3 8 2.7 0 | 54 811 15.0 5 |

| 1986 ram | 9 | 1 -15 -15.0 0 | 34 447 13.1 4 |

| 1987 ram | 12 | 1 4 4.0 0 | 51 799 15.7 3 |

| 1988 ram | 16 | 1 7 7.0 0 | 86 1414 16.4 10 |

| 1989 ram | 14 | 2 10 5.0 0 | 70 1382 19.7 8 |

| 1990 ram | 15 | 2 21 10.5 0 | 76 1294 17.0 4 |

| 1991 ram | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 64 1052 16.4 3 |

| 1992 ram | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 47 727 15.5 3 |

| 1993 ram | 16 | 2 18 9.0 0 | 61 945 15.5 2 |

| 1994 was | 16 | 1 -5 -5.0 0 | 74 1397 18.9 6 |

| 1995 was | 15 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 56 1005 17.9 5 |

| 1996 was | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 52 1014 19.5 2 |

| 1997 was | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 32 485 15.2 4 |

| 1998 nwe | 5 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 5 86 17.2 0 |

| 1998 was | 2 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 2 29 14.5 0 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 228 | 19 50 2.6 0 | 814 13777 16.9 65 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

 
Randy's agent making reference to his client's 40 times is about as reliable about some skank pig on an internet dating service claiming that she's 36-24-36 with a face to match.
True story -- I met a woman online in a chat room in the 90s who was from Holland. She was visiting the U.S. and was going across the country, staying with people she knew from this chat site. She wanted to come here, I agreed, and sent me a picture during all this. Pretty hot. When she arrived at the airport, I was looking for this babe in the picture, not the 220 lb UGLY heifer that walked up to me. Her explanation was that she was afraid if I really knew how she looked, I wouldn't have agreed to have her here. She still claimed it was her in the pic, but that she'd gained 'a little weight.' Uh huh....

She was going to stay 10 days, but after 4 days I was so sick of her I sent her off to the next fool in San Jose or wherever else it was she was going. What a disaster.

And her 40 time was probably lousy too.
Internet dating support groups are in Free-for-All, not the Shark Pool.Relating to the thread...

I'm from Minnesota. You know its the offseason when "Randy Moss is in the best shape of his life." :no:

 
If Moss and Favre team up, I see no reason why Moss won't have a great season. It's pretty clear that Favre is not only a winner, but also a stat hound. He is given cart blanche to chuck the rock, and Moss will benefit greatly. Also, think of this... when Randy quits it's because his team sux and he's not getting his "Randy ratio". Also, he has no respect for the QB's that have been throwing to him (he loved Daunte, but didn't respect him). On GB he will respect his QB, he will get his share of deep passes, and Favre won't let him whine. Even if GB has a crappy record, I would fully expect Favre and Moss to put up top 10 FF numbers. Brett wants to go down in history as the best QB ever, and he's just 7 TD passes away from proving that (in his own mind).

 
Randy's agent making reference to his client's 40 times is about as reliable about some skank pig on an internet dating service claiming that she's 36-24-36 with a face to match.
True story -- I met a woman online in a chat room in the 90s who was from Holland. She was visiting the U.S. and was going across the country, staying with people she knew from this chat site. She wanted to come here, I agreed, and sent me a picture during all this. Pretty hot. When she arrived at the airport, I was looking for this babe in the picture, not the 220 lb UGLY heifer that walked up to me. Her explanation was that she was afraid if I really knew how she looked, I wouldn't have agreed to have her here. She still claimed it was her in the pic, but that she'd gained 'a little weight.' Uh huh....

She was going to stay 10 days, but after 4 days I was so sick of her I sent her off to the next fool in San Jose or wherever else it was she was going. What a disaster.

And her 40 time was probably lousy too.
Internet dating support groups are in Free-for-All, not the Shark Pool.Relating to the thread...

I'm from Minnesota. You know its the offseason when "Randy Moss is in the best shape of his life." :no:
Thanks for getting such a valuable thread back on track.
 
Running a fast 40 doesn't change his attitude or the fact he will get lazy on run plays and eventually become a pain in the a**

 
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If Moss and Favre team up, I see no reason why Moss won't have a great season. It's pretty clear that Favre is not only a winner, but also a stat hound. He is given cart blanche to chuck the rock, and Moss will benefit greatly. Also, think of this... when Randy quits it's because his team sux and he's not getting his "Randy ratio". Also, he has no respect for the QB's that have been throwing to him (he loved Daunte, but didn't respect him). On GB he will respect his QB, he will get his share of deep passes, and Favre won't let him whine. Even if GB has a crappy record, I would fully expect Favre and Moss to put up top 10 FF numbers. Brett wants to go down in history as the best QB ever, and he's just 7 TD passes away from proving that (in his own mind).
Really?For the last two years I have read the same thing, "I see no reason why Moss won't have a great season." I see glaring reasons: 1) Doesn't care, 2) Injury prone, and 3) A case of the #######. (dumb butt)Don't get me wrong, I think he's as talented as they come, if not moreso. But you couldn't have put so much talent with such a poor head.And while I'm here: Favre has ALWAYS had cart blanche to throw the ball. That's why he will also be breaking the record for most interceptions this year. Sure, he will put it in the air, but how many times is it off his back foot, getting sacked, or squeezing it into tight coverage.When Favre has a bad game, how many games will Moss take off? When Favre has a bad series, how many plays will Moss take off?
 
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Randy's agent making reference to his client's 40 times is about as reliable about some skank pig on an internet dating service claiming that she's 36-24-36 with a face to match.
True story -- I met a woman online in a chat room in the 90s who was from Holland. She was visiting the U.S. and was going across the country, staying with people she knew from this chat site. She wanted to come here, I agreed, and sent me a picture during all this. Pretty hot. When she arrived at the airport, I was looking for this babe in the picture, not the 220 lb UGLY heifer that walked up to me. Her explanation was that she was afraid if I really knew how she looked, I wouldn't have agreed to have her here. She still claimed it was her in the pic, but that she'd gained 'a little weight.' Uh huh....

She was going to stay 10 days, but after 4 days I was so sick of her I sent her off to the next fool in San Jose or wherever else it was she was going. What a disaster.

And her 40 time was probably lousy too.
I fell for that scam, but when she approached me at the airport I pretended I wasn't me.
 
Running a fast 40 doesn't change his attitude or the fact he will get lazy on run plays and eventually become a pain in the a**
I'm not giving up on him yet. If he can get to a team where the QB can get him the ball, I'll still take Moss @ 80% over most of the WRs in the league.
 
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

DiPiero told Twin Cities television station KSTP that Moss was in excellent shape and "ran a 4.26, 4.28, and a 4.31 (seconds in the 40-yard dash) during one of his workouts last week. He's in the best shape of his life."

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More fluff? Who knows. I'm usually disappointed on draft day after weeks and weeks of talk and NOTHING happens! :goodposting:
...and that was backpeddling while wearing a parachute....
 
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

DiPiero told Twin Cities television station KSTP that Moss was in excellent shape and "ran a 4.26, 4.28, and a 4.31 (seconds in the 40-yard dash) during one of his workouts last week. He's in the best shape of his life."

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More fluff? Who knows. I'm usually disappointed on draft day after weeks and weeks of talk and NOTHING happens! :lmao:
...and that was backpeddling while wearing a parachute....
:goodposting: Awesome.

 
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

DiPiero told Twin Cities television station KSTP that Moss was in excellent shape and "ran a 4.26, 4.28, and a 4.31 (seconds in the 40-yard dash) during one of his workouts last week. He's in the best shape of his life."

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More fluff? Who knows. I'm usually disappointed on draft day after weeks and weeks of talk and NOTHING happens! :o
...and that was backpeddling while wearing a parachute....
Moss is very fast.
 
....and 400 lb offensive lineman Aaron Gibson can do the splits.

....and while on his knees, Kyle Boller can throw a football through the uprights from the 50 yard line

....and while on their knees, Kordell Stewart and Ernest Givens can....

 
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

DiPiero told Twin Cities television station KSTP that Moss was in excellent shape and "ran a 4.26, 4.28, and a 4.31 (seconds in the 40-yard dash) during one of his workouts last week. He's in the best shape of his life."

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More fluff? Who knows. I'm usually disappointed on draft day after weeks and weeks of talk and NOTHING happens! :o
...and that was backpeddling while wearing a parachute....
Moss is very fast.
Was very fast.
 
If Moss and Favre team up, I see no reason why Moss won't have a great season. It's pretty clear that Favre is not only a winner, but also a stat hound. He is given cart blanche to chuck the rock, and Moss will benefit greatly. Also, think of this... when Randy quits it's because his team sux and he's not getting his "Randy ratio". Also, he has no respect for the QB's that have been throwing to him (he loved Daunte, but didn't respect him). On GB he will respect his QB, he will get his share of deep passes, and Favre won't let him whine. Even if GB has a crappy record, I would fully expect Favre and Moss to put up top 10 FF numbers. Brett wants to go down in history as the best QB ever, and he's just 7 TD passes away from proving that (in his own mind).
Really?For the last two years I have read the same thing, "I see no reason why Moss won't have a great season." I see glaring reasons: 1) Doesn't care, 2) Injury prone, and 3) A case of the #######. (dumb butt)Don't get me wrong, I think he's as talented as they come, if not moreso. But you couldn't have put so much talent with such a poor head.And while I'm here: Favre has ALWAYS had cart blanche to throw the ball. That's why he will also be breaking the record for most interceptions this year. Sure, he will put it in the air, but how many times is it off his back foot, getting sacked, or squeezing it into tight coverage.When Favre has a bad game, how many games will Moss take off? When Favre has a bad series, how many plays will Moss take off?
I don't think Moss (or Favre, for that matter) cares how many INT's Brett throws, or how many come off his back foot, or the fact that he's trying to force it to Randy. At the end of the day, if their yardage and TD stats are up there, they are both happy. If Favre throws for 3900yds (his average the last 3 yrs) and 24 TD's (very doable) and Moss gets his percentage, I figure it to be around 1300 yards (one-third) and 12 TD's (one-half). Brett will simply pull Randy aside and say, hey, sure, we aren't headed to the SuperBowl, but we are both headed to the HOF, so screw everyone else. Let's pad our stats!
 
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

DiPiero told Twin Cities television station KSTP that Moss was in excellent shape and "ran a 4.26, 4.28, and a 4.31 (seconds in the 40-yard dash) during one of his workouts last week. He's in the best shape of his life."

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More fluff? Who knows. I'm usually disappointed on draft day after weeks and weeks of talk and NOTHING happens! :lmao:
...and that was backpeddling while wearing a parachute....
Moss is very fast.
Was very fast.
Is would be the proper tense here.And Grid just doesen't want to see the Bears being forced into triple coverage on this guy twice a year again.

 
Did he get faster by adding 10 pounds of muscle, or did he shed pounds to get quicker? Its always one or the other.

In other news, every head coach in the NFL says they're going to run the ball more.

 
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Moss running a 4.28 to 4.31 is not faster than he used to be. If anything that is losing a step.

If you want to question his charecter and motivation fine. But the guy still has the sickest physical abilities in the league that allowed him to totaly dominate. That has not changed.

 
Moss running a 4.28 to 4.31 is not faster than he used to be. If anything that is losing a step.

If you want to question his charecter and motivation fine. But the guy still has the sickest physical abilities in the league that allowed him to totaly dominate. That has not changed.
Haven't seen him play the last couple years I take it. He's hardly the dominant force he once was.
 
Moss running a 4.28 to 4.31 is not faster than he used to be. If anything that is losing a step.

If you want to question his charecter and motivation fine. But the guy still has the sickest physical abilities in the league that allowed him to totaly dominate. That has not changed.
Wake up. Randy Moss hasn't ran a 4.26 in his CAREER let alone the last 3 years. He's been fast, not quick. There's a difference. I don't know if you've been watching Randy the last 2 years but, if he was that quick, you'd see him creating separation from DB's. I've been watching and he can't. :goodposting:
 
TheBradyBunch said:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

DiPiero told Twin Cities television station KSTP that Moss was in excellent shape and "ran a 4.26, 4.28, and a 4.31 (seconds in the 40-yard dash) during one of his workouts last week. He's in the best shape of his life."

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More fluff? Who knows. I'm usually disappointed on draft day after weeks and weeks of talk and NOTHING happens! :D
The question with Moss has never been about his physical ability. What shape is his head in? ;)
 
Wake up. Randy Moss hasn't ran a 4.26 in his CAREER let alone the last 3 years.

During his red-shirt season at Florida State, Randy was timed at 4.25 seconds in the 40-yard dash. The fastest time ever recorded at FSU was 4.23, by Deion Sanders. :lmao:

 

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