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Most balanced and complete NFL team right now? (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

Ministry of Pain

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The New York Jets

Is there another team in the NFL right now that is as balanced as they are? And what's scary is Holmes, Revis, and Pace should be returning this week or next. It was easy to destroy these guys after the 1st game against baltimore but now they are something like 8-2 over their last 10 games. look at the teams in the AFC right now.

Pittsburgh - I can make a case for them very soon after Roethlisberger settles in.

Baltimore - Not that impressive right now. Much better defense and can't get the running game working.

Indy - They are like 3-5 over their last 8 games.

San Diego - I love to watch them play but they cannot do what they do at home on the road.

NFC...I honestly wouldn't take any of them right now. New Orleans doesn't look good, Green Bay has no running game.

And is the NFL a parity league gone bad?

 
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What does "balanced" mean in your mind. The Jets haven't shown as much ability to play pass D as Green Bay has to run the ball, or SD has to play special teams.

For the most "balanced" I'd say the Ravens...they've played a tough run schedule, but have had some success (when Rice was healthy), and look dominant on D, and quite capable through the air.

 
there isnt a team that truly deserves the mantle of "most balanced" - hence the reason why the Chiefs are the only undefeated team left (and they are frauds) . . .

 
Ministry of Pain said:
The New York Jets

Is there another team in the NFL right now that is as balanced as they are? And what's scary is Holmes, Revis, and Pace should be returning this week or next. It was easy to destroy these guys after the 1st game against baltimore but now they are something like 8-2 over their last 10 games. look at the teams in the AFC right now.

Pittsburgh - I can make a case for them very soon after Roethlisberger settles in.

Baltimore - Not that impressive right now. Much better defense and can't get the running game working.

Indy - They are like 3-5 over their last 8 games.

San Diego - I love to watch them play but they cannot do what they do at home on the road.

NFC...I honestly wouldn't take any of them right now. New Orleans doesn't look good, Green Bay has no running game.

And is the NFL a parody league gone bad?
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Parity?

As a big NYJ fan, I tend to agree. And with the return of Revis, Pace..and Holmes debut. Getting Wilson back to his position of CB3, LT2 seeming to have a revitalization and Sanchez showing some growth.....yes, I do believe they are quite a well balanced team and are starting to show what many of us fans hoped for after the talk/hype.

 
duaneok66 said:
there isnt a team that truly deserves the mantle of "most balanced" - hence the reason why the Chiefs are the only undefeated team left (and they are frauds) . . .
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I dunno. I'm taking the winless Lions this week in my big :goodposting: suicide pool while everybody else goes down taking Indy vs. K.C.!!! :unsure:
 
Al Toon said:
Parity?As a big NYJ fan, I tend to agree. And with the return of Revis, Pace..and Holmes debut. Getting Wilson back to his position of CB3, LT2 seeming to have a revitalization and Sanchez showing some growth.....yes, I do believe they are quite a well balanced team and are starting to show what many of us fans hoped for after the talk/hype.
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nice catch...was thinking about SNL skits
 
Ministry of Pain said:
The New York Jets

Is there another team in the NFL right now that is as balanced as they are? And what's scary is Holmes, Revis, and Pace should be returning this week or next. It was easy to destroy these guys after the 1st game against baltimore but now they are something like 8-2 over their last 10 games. look at the teams in the AFC right now.

Pittsburgh - I can make a case for them very soon after Roethlisberger settles in.

Baltimore - Not that impressive right now. Much better defense and can't get the running game working.

Indy - They are like 3-5 over their last 8 games.

San Diego - I love to watch them play but they cannot do what they do at home on the road.

NFC...I honestly wouldn't take any of them right now. New Orleans doesn't look good, Green Bay has no running game.

And is the NFL a parody league gone bad?
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If the Steelers can get through this season with the defense healthy, and if Roethlisberger is half as focused and impressive right now as all the reports on him have been, the Jets will have some company up there at the top. I was hoping against hope for a 2-2 start, but at 3-1 with only a last second loss to the Ravens after being led by Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch, it could be a special year for the Steelers the way the defense has stepped up.My, what a healthy Polalmalu and Smith can do, and Timmons seems to have taken a huge step forward as well.

 
Steelers4Life said:
Ministry of Pain said:
The New York Jets

Is there another team in the NFL right now that is as balanced as they are? And what's scary is Holmes, Revis, and Pace should be returning this week or next. It was easy to destroy these guys after the 1st game against baltimore but now they are something like 8-2 over their last 10 games. look at the teams in the AFC right now.

Pittsburgh - I can make a case for them very soon after Roethlisberger settles in.

Baltimore - Not that impressive right now. Much better defense and can't get the running game working.

Indy - They are like 3-5 over their last 8 games.

San Diego - I love to watch them play but they cannot do what they do at home on the road.

NFC...I honestly wouldn't take any of them right now. New Orleans doesn't look good, Green Bay has no running game.

And is the NFL a parody league gone bad?
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If the Steelers can get through this season with the defense healthy, and if Roethlisberger is half as focused and impressive right now as all the reports on him have been, the Jets will have some company up there at the top. I was hoping against hope for a 2-2 start, but at 3-1 with only a last second loss to the Ravens after being led by Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch, it could be a special year for the Steelers the way the defense has stepped up.My, what a healthy Polalmalu and Smith can do, and Timmons seems to have taken a huge step forward as well.
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Polamalu might be giving Ronnie Lott a run for best Safety ever.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
The New York Jets

Is there another team in the NFL right now that is as balanced as they are? And what's scary is Holmes, Revis, and Pace should be returning this week or next. It was easy to destroy these guys after the 1st game against baltimore but now they are something like 8-2 over their last 10 games. look at the teams in the AFC right now.

Pittsburgh - I can make a case for them very soon after Roethlisberger settles in.

Baltimore - Not that impressive right now. Much better defense and can't get the running game working.

Indy - They are like 3-5 over their last 8 games.

San Diego - I love to watch them play but they cannot do what they do at home on the road.

NFC...I honestly wouldn't take any of them right now. New Orleans doesn't look good, Green Bay has no running game.

And is the NFL a parity league gone bad?
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I'm not so sure.the Jets' loss vs BAL was far worse than the Saints (quasi)-loss to ATL.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Al Toon said:
Parity?As a big NYJ fan, I tend to agree. And with the return of Revis, Pace..and Holmes debut. Getting Wilson back to his position of CB3, LT2 seeming to have a revitalization and Sanchez showing some growth.....yes, I do believe they are quite a well balanced team and are starting to show what many of us fans hoped for after the talk/hype.
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nice catch...was thinking about SNL skits
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Wasn't trying to grammmar police you or anything, just wanted to make sure you didnt mean it as "a mockery of itself".Long time fan of your write ups and thought provoking discussions. Keep up the good work.And yes, Pitt, I agree with...Baltimore still has to show me more before I throw them in the group.
 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
The New York Jets

Is there another team in the NFL right now that is as balanced as they are? And what's scary is Holmes, Revis, and Pace should be returning this week or next. It was easy to destroy these guys after the 1st game against baltimore but now they are something like 8-2 over their last 10 games. look at the teams in the AFC right now.

Pittsburgh - I can make a case for them very soon after Roethlisberger settles in.

Baltimore - Not that impressive right now. Much better defense and can't get the running game working.

Indy - They are like 3-5 over their last 8 games.

San Diego - I love to watch them play but they cannot do what they do at home on the road.

NFC...I honestly wouldn't take any of them right now. New Orleans doesn't look good, Green Bay has no running game.

And is the NFL a parity league gone bad?
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I'm not so sure.the Jets' loss vs BAL was far worse than the Saints (quasi)-loss to ATL.
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It's not just wins and losses. I would rank San Diego way ahead of KC even though they lost to them in week 1. New Orleans has not looked great in any week so far champ, sorry. Jets lost 10-9 to Baltimore with a Ray Lewis chip on his shoulder week 1 which is really an extension of the preseason.

 
The Ravens are missing a key player on their Oline in Gaither. Stallworth had GREAT, GREAT, GREAT chemistry with Flacoo (Boldin, Mason and CLAYTON) in the preseason. And a guy named Ed Reed, a first ballot hall of famer, hasn't played yet. Additionally, CB Webb is working himself back into playing condition. As Flacco builds repore with Housh, DT Cody just returned against Pitts, I think this team improves. Look for Gaither to be back to increase his contract value for next year in the second half of the season. That said, I think the return of Roethlesberger makes Pitt the most balanced team in the league. The AFC North has the best four group of teams in the league bar-none.

 
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The first team that came to mind was Pitt. I would say the Jets are a close second. In a tough fought playoff game, I'd take Big Ben over Sanchez right now though. Both defenses are crazy good.

We can find out Dec 19th...

 
i think most say pitt because of the strong D with a healthy head-and-shoulders safety, an offense that has survived with a strong running presence and the return of one of the best QBs in the league (this comes from a Baltimore homer)

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
For those saying Pittsburgh, why?Also the Jets are 3-0 in division play. Pitt, Balt each have a loss
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I'll take a shot. Of the 3 teams in comparison here (Jets, Balt, Pitts) which one has been playing the entire year so far without the #1 leader on their team? Pittsburg. To be 3-1 with backup QBs who have been getting hurt is shocking.Granted, you know more about football than me but doesn't the QB typically play the most crucial role on most teams? I think that the upgrade at QB will put Pittsburg over the top.I don't buy the division play argument. The Jets are not in the same division as Pittsburg and Baltimore. If you are going to make any argument it should be that Baltimore has beaten the Jets and Steelers, both in their own stadiums. Until those teams beat Baltimore they can step aside. I personally don't trust the Baltimore offense though and think they will collapse.This is a fun year in the NFL. The NFC will have their hands full with whoever emerges from the AFC.
 
It's safe to say Pitt/Balt/NYJ are at the top of the NFL at this current time.

3 weeks from now, who knows. The Packers could be there, but without a solid running game I just can't see it. The Vikings may be there if in fact they get Moss.

 
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The Packers could be there, but without a solid running game I just can't see it.
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I can't see the Packers getting to the Super Bowl with arguably the least talented RBs in the league. I also am concerned about how they'll fare against elite passing offenses. They were horrible against them last season.
 
vandyt said:
What does "balanced" mean in your mind. The Jets haven't shown as much ability to play pass D as Green Bay has to run the ball, or SD has to play special teams.For the most "balanced" I'd say the Ravens...they've played a tough run schedule, but have had some success (when Rice was healthy), and look dominant on D, and quite capable through the air.
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There wasn't a better unit in football last year than the Jets pass defense. If that's their question mark, they don't have any once Revis and Pace return. Cromartie and Wilson will represent an upgrade over Sheppard and Lowery by the time the season's over. A slow start for sure, but once Revis is "back" the question mark fades away, IMO.
 
The one area I thought Baltimore was supposed to be weak or suspect at was their secondary yes/no? Yet no one has really challenged them or tried to go deep much when they face them. Of course they have squared off against Sanchez week 1, Palmer(arm is shot), Cleve QB(Wallace?), and Pitt QB4...at some point someone has to line up and throw it on them yes/no?

Jets are getting 3 big playmakers back, Pitt getting ben back, when will Balt get Ed Reed back if at all?

I think New York and Pitt will both get better.

 
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gigantor said:
It's safe to say Pitt/Balt/NYJ are at the top of the NFL at this current time.

3 weeks from now, who knows. The Packers could be there, but without a solid running game I just can't see it. The Vikings may be there if in fact they get Moss.
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:thumbup: They have a brutal few games coming up but with the way the NFC is looking without a dominant team there is no reason why Minnesota can't be that team in the NFC.

 
Chase Stuart said:
vandyt said:
What does "balanced" mean in your mind. The Jets haven't shown as much ability to play pass D as Green Bay has to run the ball, or SD has to play special teams.For the most "balanced" I'd say the Ravens...they've played a tough run schedule, but have had some success (when Rice was healthy), and look dominant on D, and quite capable through the air.
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There wasn't a better unit in football last year than the Jets pass defense. If that's their question mark, they don't have any once Revis and Pace return. Cromartie and Wilson will represent an upgrade over Sheppard and Lowery by the time the season's over. A slow start for sure, but once Revis is "back" the question mark fades away, IMO.
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Agreed
 
Chase Stuart said:
vandyt said:
What does "balanced" mean in your mind. The Jets haven't shown as much ability to play pass D as Green Bay has to run the ball, or SD has to play special teams.For the most "balanced" I'd say the Ravens...they've played a tough run schedule, but have had some success (when Rice was healthy), and look dominant on D, and quite capable through the air.
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There wasn't a better unit in football last year than the Jets pass defense. If that's their question mark, they don't have any once Revis and Pace return. Cromartie and Wilson will represent an upgrade over Sheppard and Lowery by the time the season's over. A slow start for sure, but once Revis is "back" the question mark fades away, IMO.
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We'll see. The Chargers secondary is much improved due to the upgrade from Cromartie to Cason. Maybe Cro has changed. :)
 
Saying Indy is 3-5 in their last 8 is kind of goofy considering they gave away those two games at the end of last season. And that would actually make them 4-5 in their last 9 (counting the playoffs), not 3-5.

The Jets do look impressive, but considering the Ravens beat them in New York, I can't say they are better than Baltimore. The Ravens still win ugly, but winning is what matters the most when it comes to team play.

 
LOL : 2 urle to know : some teams have played an easy schedule so far and some much more difficult : at about mid-season we will know who sinks and who floats

simply put : nobody is dominant right now, sure some teams are stronger but I really do not see much separation from the pack from anyone

projecting success forward based on such a small sample of work vs. a small sample of unlike opponents (in most cases) will allow us to all chuckle in about 2 months

NYJ/BAL/PIT : I bet one of them does not make the playoffs...I have no idea which one will fall flat but it sure would not suprise me :shrug:

 
Ministry of Pain said:
SomeGuyNamedDavid said:
Ministry of Pain said:
For those saying Pittsburgh, why?
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Seriously? Have you watched them play this year?
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Did the Pitt/TB recap week 3, have you written about them in detail after watching them play? Are you a season ticket holder on the 50? I'm sorry but this type of post is starting to wear very thin in the SP, nothing personal.
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You criticize and offer nothing of substance in return.Bottom line is Pittsburgh has been impressive via the eye test, stats, and simple logic. That logic states they were 40 seconds from being 4-0 using their 4th string QB. Big Ben is a Top 5 QB, 2 time Super Bowl winner, and without a doubt the Steelers offensive MVP. How could they not be considered a favorite at this moment. Or maybe favorite does not mean balanced?Yes, Baltimore beat Pittsburgh this past Sunday. Pittsburgh probably wins that game based on their performance with Ben as QB. By the way the Ravens did a pretty good job on the NY Jets ealier this year. So ------- Pitt > Balt > NY Jets
 
Ministry of Pain said:
For those saying Pittsburgh, why?Also the Jets are 3-0 in division play. Pitt, Balt each have a loss
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Division play? You mean the Bills and Dolphins? *lol* Yeah that's impressive.The Ravens beat the Jets, you know, on the field in a real game? Then the Ravens went on the road and beat the Steelers. Steelers getting back Big Ben is a huge boost. Passing is the only area they are suffering. The Ravens have beat both of them. Very balanced, offense is starting to click. Housh is starting to get in the flow. Jets are very good. Revis and Holmes will be a nice boost. If the Ravens play them in 2 weeks I'd still give the edge to the Ravens. That being said by the end of the year the Steelers are probably the best team in the league. But seeing as how the Ravens beat the Jets/Steelers in their house, I'm not sure how you can rank the Ravens below either of those teams, that's the tie breaker for me.
 
How about Baltimore, they only beat the Jets in New York and they just beat the Steelers.

The only other team besides Baltimore would be the Steelers who will be getting their starting QB back.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
For those saying Pittsburgh, why?Also the Jets are 3-0 in division play. Pitt, Balt each have a loss
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What the hell does division record have to do with whether or not a team is "balanced?"It often seems like you just type for the sake of typing and impressing people.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
For those saying Pittsburgh, why?Also the Jets are 3-0 in division play. Pitt, Balt each have a loss
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What do you mean why? Pittsburgh is getting their 2 time Super Bowl QB back, a top 5 QB in the NFL. He's been out all season with guys like Dixon, Batch and Leftwich playing in his absence and they are nearly 4-0. They lost to a tough Raven team that won in New York Jets.It's doesn't really matter, people can argue all day long and it'll all be settled on the field, whether you think the New York Jets are the best, Pittsburgh Steelers are the best or the Baltimore Ravens are the best who have beaten both Pittsburgh and New York already.
 
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Hmmmmmm,

I don't know but, what I will repeat is that JET FANS ROCK at FBG!!!!! I think Jet fans get a bad rap in general but, look at threads like this.. Your average Jets fan is beaten down over many years and not one to go tooting their own horn.... Sure write a negative thread or write a thread that blows up issues that we disagree with and Jets fans will come running in defense. I also think 3-4 Jets fans around here have Web sites / Radio shows and are damn knowledgeable fans overall!!! KUDOS!!

But, call the Jets the among the best teams in the league and we pretty much just want to see it before we believe it. Every Jets fan I know is very similar when it comes to the Jets. We're pretty realistic and grounded group of fans IMO...

Personally, I think the Ravens are basically the Jets but, with a better RB, a more experienced QB and a defense just as good.... The Pats aren't going away and the Steelers have Ben back.

I do know I wouldn't trade Rex Ryan for any coach in the league.... He needs A major Pass Rusher added to his defense and a DL help... As I watched a piece last night on the Ravens and how great Ngata is, I felt a pain inside that still mourns the loss of Kris Jenkins and the fact that guys like Ngata and Jenkins put your defensive potential on a whole other level - Sure Rex is good and will have a good defense regardless but, damn he needs a massive NT to really get things done, let alone a young pass rusher...

It's a long season - They have to stay healthy from here on out.

I'd like to see Revis at 100% as well.

 
The Ravens IMO are the best team in the league top to bottom.

Pitt is stout but Baltimore has more play makers on offense and that will be the difference come January.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
The New York Jets

Is there another team in the NFL right now that is as balanced as they are? And what's scary is Holmes, Revis, and Pace should be returning this week or next. It was easy to destroy these guys after the 1st game against baltimore but now they are something like 8-2 over their last 10 games. look at the teams in the AFC right now.

Pittsburgh - I can make a case for them very soon after Roethlisberger settles in.

Baltimore - Not that impressive right now. Much better defense and can't get the running game working.

Indy - They are like 3-5 over their last 8 games.

San Diego - I love to watch them play but they cannot do what they do at home on the road.

NFC...I honestly wouldn't take any of them right now. New Orleans doesn't look good, Green Bay has no running game.

And is the NFL a parity league gone bad?
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I'm not so sure.the Jets' loss vs BAL was far worse than the Saints (quasi)-loss to ATL.
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Far worse loss? The offense looked AWFUL that game just because it was SUPER conservative, and they still had a chance. Since that point, they put up 28, 31 and 38 points. With that defense and an offense that is even pedestrian, let alone the way they're playing now without Holmes, man... it's finally nice to be a Jet fan :confused:
 
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