Most Overrated Player in NFL History.... (1 Viewer)

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Vincent Jackson...aka Bo Jackson.

Why does this guy even get mentioned as a great RB?

B/c he has great size and speed?

B/c of a monday night game vs the Seahawks?

Quite frankly, I have never seen his stats before but they disappoint.

Never ran for 1000 yards in a season.

only 2,782 career yards? Thats only a couple hundred more than Tatum Bell over the same time frame (I had to use a guy you all love...lol)

The guy had long runs that awed the crowd and fans....but would do it once Marcus Allen wore down the D. Speaking of....if Bo Jackson was so great...why didnt he beat out Marcus Allen for the job?

I know Bo has a small sample size...but so does Terrell Davis.

Enlighten me as to why Bo should be talked about as one of the great RB's.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Did you ever see him play?

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Did you ever see him play?

My guess He's in His 20's.

 

[The Pitbull]

Vincent Jackson...aka Bo Jackson.Why does this guy even get mentioned as a great RB?B/c he has great size and speed?B/c of a monday night game vs the Seahawks?Quite frankly, I have never seen his stats before but they disappoint.Never ran for 1000 yards in a season.only 2,782 career yards? Thats only a couple hundred more than Tatum Bell over the same time frame (I had to use a guy you all love...lol)The guy had long runs that awed the crowd and fans....but would do it once Marcus Allen wore down the D. Speaking of....if Bo Jackson was so great...why didnt he beat out Marcus Allen for the job?I know Bo has a small sample size...but so does Terrell Davis.Enlighten me as to why Bo should be talked about as one of the great RB's.

Im not going to argue Jackson as one of the greats of all time. We will never really know what "could have been", so I wont bother speculating. But did you watch Bo play?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Did you ever see him play?

He was Adrian Peterson before Adrian Peterson - there were more powerful backs, faster backs, backs with better moves - but no one had the devastating combo of power, speed and moves that Bo had until AD came along.

 

[Wolfpacker]

Most over-rated NFL player: Brian Bosworth

Even Bo Jackson ran over him.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Most over-rated NFL player: Brian BosworthEven Bo Jackson ran over him.

 

[Crazy8s]

"You don't know Bo!"

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Did you ever see him play?

My guess He's in His 20's.

Ding Ding Ding.....either way...NFL Films makes it happen.But that doesn't clearify anything. Did you watch Jim Brown play?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

This is very true.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Michael Turner is the most overrated on this message board.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Did you ever see him play?

My guess He's in His 20's.

Ding Ding Ding.....either way...NFL Films makes it happen.But that doesn't clearify anything. Did you watch Jim Brown play?

No, but was told he was great by my elders.I'm telling you as your elder Bo was great.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Wait a minute - I'm not following. Are you comparing Vincent Jackson a WR to Bo Jackson a RB?

 

[David Yudkin]

He has the highest career ypc of any RB with 500 or more carries (5.40).

1 Bo Jackson 5.40

2 Jim Brown 5.29

3 Mercury Morris 5.14

4 Gale Sayers 5.00

5 Barry Sanders 4.99

6 Napoleon Kaufman 4.90

7 Frank Gore 4.90

8 Paul Lowe 4.87

9 Tony Nathan 4.84

10 Robert Smith 4.83

11 Tatum Bell 4.81

12 Ernie Green 4.80

13 Marv Hubbard 4.78

14 Wendell Tyler 4.75

15 Greg Pruitt 4.74

16 James Brooks 4.73

17 Stump Mitchell 4.72

18 Tiki Barber 4.71

19 Brian Westbrook 4.71

20 Fred Taylor 4.69

21 O.J. Simpson 4.67

22 Charlie Garner 4.62

23 Terrell Davis 4.60

24 Priest Holmes 4.59

25 Gerry Ellis 4.58

Certainly there are many other criteria to factor into being a "great RB," but in this area Bo was the one of the best (even with a limited workload).

 

[Bill Lust]

Being so gifted was a curse. If he had concentrated on either football or baseball he would have been among the best in history at his position. Watch tape of that Raiders/Seahawks game from the late 1980's and tell me he was overrated.

 

[David Yudkin]

Wait a minute - I'm not following. Are you comparing Vincent Jackson a WR to Bo Jackson a RB?

No. Bo Jackson's given name was Vincent.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

13 Marv Hubbard 4.78

WOW, just think if He didn't get all those goal line carries.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I thought about it....but glad you did.Its not like The Boz was on them.....oh wait....thats what my elders tell me.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Wait a minute - I'm not following. Are you comparing Vincent Jackson a WR to Bo Jackson a RB?

No. Bo Jackson's given name was Vincent.

OK. Maybe you should change the title to read Vincent "Bo" Jackson to be more clear?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

He has the highest career ypc of any RB with 500 or more carries (5.40). 1 Bo Jackson 5.40 2 Jim Brown 5.29 3 Mercury Morris 5.14 4 Gale Sayers 5.00 5 Barry Sanders 4.99 6 Napoleon Kaufman 4.90 7 Frank Gore 4.908 Paul Lowe 4.87 9 Tony Nathan 4.84 10 Robert Smith 4.83 11 Tatum Bell 4.81 12 Ernie Green 4.80 13 Marv Hubbard 4.78 14 Wendell Tyler 4.75 15 Greg Pruitt 4.74 16 James Brooks 4.73 17 Stump Mitchell 4.72 18 Tiki Barber 4.71 19 Brian Westbrook 4.71 20 Fred Taylor 4.69 21 O.J. Simpson 4.67 22 Charlie Garner 4.62 23 Terrell Davis 4.60 24 Priest Holmes 4.59 25 Gerry Ellis 4.58 Certainly there are many other criteria to factor into being a "great RB," but in this area Bo was the one of the best (even with a limited workload).

True, but Bo is the close to that 500 carry mark. So its a question mark. Barry and Jim Brown have none because they were sustained over a long period of time.I know Gale Sayers was great(and I'm a Bears fan) but I will not put his name up there with the greats.....because he only did it for a short period of time. Like Bo because of injuries.

 

[David Yudkin]

Wait a minute - I'm not following. Are you comparing Vincent Jackson a WR to Bo Jackson a RB?

No. Bo Jackson's given name was Vincent.

OK. Maybe you should change the title to read Vincent "Bo" Jackson to be more clear?

Done to here.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I thought about it....but glad you did.Its not like The Boz was on them.....oh wait....thats what my elders tell me.

At least Boz said He was. The one I don't get is a 'Punter'.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Wait a minute - I'm not following. Are you comparing Vincent Jackson a WR to Bo Jackson a RB?

No. Bo Jackson's given name was Vincent.

OK. Maybe you should change the title to read Vincent "Bo" Jackson to be more clear?

It is clear if you read the initial post, just trying to add some knowledge in here. Its tough to do through all the muck and garbage about week 17 sleeper defenses.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Wait a minute - I'm not following. Are you comparing Vincent Jackson a WR to Bo Jackson a RB?

No. Bo Jackson's given name was Vincent.

OK. Maybe you should change the title to read Vincent "Bo" Jackson to be more clear?

It is clear if you read the initial post, just trying to add some knowledge in here. Its tough to do through all the muck and garbage about week 17 sleeper defenses.

Nice topic by the way.

 

[mlball77]

If you watched Bo play, and also considered the stats he posted for a few years while splitting time and energy with baseball, you quickly realize how awesome he was (at football). Even with missing camp/preseason and some regular season, he still was able to come in and post some great numbers and more than that, he looked like he was on another level compared to other players of his era.

If he would have focused solely on football, he would have likely posted crazy numbers for a few seasons... but we'll never really know since he didn't want to go that route and instead played multiple sports. Despite missing all that time and practice, he was still a phenomenal football player.

Yudkin's posting of yards per rush lifetime stats is a small, but definite indicator of how special Bo really was.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I thought about it....but glad you did.Its not like The Boz was on them.....oh wait....thats what my elders tell me.

Didn't Bo deny all allegations and sue a newspaper that made the claim? The paper subsequently retracted the story. He was not on the Mitchell Report.

 

[David Yudkin]

True, but Bo is the close to that 500 carry mark. So its a question mark. Barry and Jim Brown have none because they were sustained over a long period of time.I know Gale Sayers was great(and I'm a Bears fan) but I will not put his name up there with the greats.....because he only did it for a short period of time. Like Bo because of injuries.

I don't know of many football historians that would put Jackson in the "greatest RB" discussion in the first place. He may be placed in the "one of the greast athletes" categories, but in terms of listing off the all-time greatest RBS I do not think many would even slot him on the list (although I have not polled people on this one). Bo was a great talent and did special things when he got the ball, but he split his energy among football and baseball, had injury issues, and clearly did not have a very long career. IMO, that does not get you in the "best ever" debates (but does not take away from what he did when he actually did get the ball).

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Overrated or not, I think we can all agree that Bo is the greatest video-game player of all time...

Proof

 

[Mister Martie]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

Terry Bradshaw? Guy has the same career rating as Rex Grossman.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

True, but Bo is the close to that 500 carry mark. So its a question mark. Barry and Jim Brown have none because they were sustained over a long period of time.I know Gale Sayers was great(and I'm a Bears fan) but I will not put his name up there with the greats.....because he only did it for a short period of time. Like Bo because of injuries.

I don't know of many football historians that would put Jackson in the "greatest RB" discussion in the first place. He may be placed in the "one of the greast athletes" categories, but in terms of listing off the all-time greatest RBS I do not think many would even slot him on the list (although I have not polled people on this one). Bo was a great talent and did special things when he got the ball, but he split his energy among football and baseball, had injury issues, and clearly did not have a very long career. IMO, that does not get you in the "best ever" debates (but does not take away from what he did when he actually did get the ball).

You haven't polled your elders. Agree. Great athlete, maybe the best ever.Best RB, no way.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I thought about it....but glad you did.Its not like The Boz was on them.....oh wait....thats what my elders tell me.

Didn't Bo deny all allegations and sue a newspaper that made the claim? The paper subsequently retracted the story. He was not on the Mitchell Report.

Niether was Sosa or a guy that came out of nowhere to hit 49 one year....Brady Anderson...lol.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

Terry Bradshaw? Guy has the same career rating as Rex Grossman.

Or maybe the QB on the Jets who beat the Colts in 69?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I thought about it....but glad you did.Its not like The Boz was on them.....oh wait....thats what my elders tell me.

Didn't Bo deny all allegations and sue a newspaper that made the claim? The paper subsequently retracted the story. He was not on the Mitchell Report.

Niether was Sosa or a guy that came out of nowhere to hit 49 one year....Brady Anderson...lol.

You do listen. Nice beat me to it.But lets not get off track, as some of the better topics do.Brown,Payton,OJ - They were Great RB's.

 

[David Yudkin]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

Terry Bradshaw? Guy has the same career rating as Rex Grossman.

I don't know where to go with either of these comments (or similar ones that crop up over the year). Apples and oranges. You can't compare players from different era and expect them to mean anything.But since this was brought up . . .# of times ranked in the league's Top 10:BRADSHAW- Completions (4)- Passing Yards (5)- Passing TD (8)- Passer Rating (6)- All Pro Selections (3)- Super Bowl Titles (4)AIKMAN- Completions (4)- Passing Yards (4)- Passing TD (3)- Passer Rating (6)- All-Pro Selections (3)- Super Bowl Titles (3)GROSSMAN- Completions (0)- Passing Yards (0)- Passing TD (1)- Passer Rating (0)- All-Pro Selections (0)- Super Bowl Titles (0)

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I thought about it....but glad you did.Its not like The Boz was on them.....oh wait....thats what my elders tell me.

Didn't Bo deny all allegations and sue a newspaper that made the claim? The paper subsequently retracted the story. He was not on the Mitchell Report.

Niether was Sosa or a guy that came out of nowhere to hit 49 one year....Brady Anderson...lol.

YEAR TEAM LG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS BA 1988 BAL/BOS NL 94 325 31 69 13 4 1 21 23 75 10 6 .212 1989 BAL AL 94 266 44 55 12 2 4 16 43 45 16 4 .207 1990 BAL AL 89 234 24 54 5 2 3 24 31 46 15 2 .231 1991 BAL AL 113 256 40 59 12 3 2 27 38 44 12 5 .230 1992 BAL AL 159 623 100 169 28 10 21 80 98 98 53 16 .271 1993 BAL AL 142 560 87 147 36 8 13 66 82 99 24 12 .263 1994 BAL AL 111 453 78 119 25 5 12 48 57 75 31 1 .263 1995 BAL AL 143 554 108 145 33 10 16 64 87 111 26 7 .262 1996 BAL AL 149 579 117 172 37 5 50 110 76 106 21 8 .297 1997 BAL AL 151 590 97 170 39 7 18 73 84 105 18 12 .288 Thought it was 50. He went from 16 to 50.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Alright. Bo had amazing talent and split it between sports. He had one magical game vs the Seahawks and several other nice long runs that teased people into thinking he could be one of the best ever. Then he got injured and ended his football career. Leaving the football community "so unsatisfied"(rounders anybody). Is that about it?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

Terry Bradshaw? Guy has the same career rating as Rex Grossman.

I don't know where to go with either of these comments (or similar ones that crop up over the year). Apples and oranges. You can't compare players from different era and expect them to mean anything.But since this was brought up . . .# of times ranked in the league's Top 10:BRADSHAW- Completions (4)- Passing Yards (5)- Passing TD (8)- Passer Rating (6)- All Pro Selections (3)- Super Bowl Titles (4)AIKMAN- Completions (4)- Passing Yards (4)- Passing TD (3)- Passer Rating (6)- All-Pro Selections (3)- Super Bowl Titles (3)GROSSMAN- Completions (0)- Passing Yards (0)- Passing TD (1)- Passer Rating (0)- All-Pro Selections (0)- Super Bowl Titles (0)

Question do you think Ken Stabler should be in the HOF?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

Terry Bradshaw? Guy has the same career rating as Rex Grossman.

I don't know where to go with either of these comments (or similar ones that crop up over the year). Apples and oranges. You can't compare players from different era and expect them to mean anything.But since this was brought up . . .# of times ranked in the league's Top 10:BRADSHAW- Completions (4)- Passing Yards (5)- Passing TD (8)- Passer Rating (6)- All Pro Selections (3)- Super Bowl Titles (4)AIKMAN- Completions (4)- Passing Yards (4)- Passing TD (3)- Passer Rating (6)- All-Pro Selections (3)- Super Bowl Titles (3)GROSSMAN- Completions (0)- Passing Yards (0)- Passing TD (1)- Passer Rating (0)- All-Pro Selections (0)- Super Bowl Titles (0)

True you can't compare b/c they didn't have as many NFL teams back then....lol

 

[TwinTurbo]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I have no doubt that many current and former NFL players took roids. But I don't think Bo was one of them. He had that body since high school. Same with AD. They are just genetic freaks. Mere mortals have to take roids to just get to where these guys started.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I have no doubt that many current and former NFL players took roids. But I don't think Bo was one of them. He had that body since high school. Same with AD. They are just genetic freaks. Mere mortals have to take roids to just get to where these guys started.

This could be true and I am not saying that he did. However, one of the side effects of steroid use is that they are more prone to injury.

 

[Mister Martie]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

Terry Bradshaw? Guy has the same career rating as Rex Grossman.

I don't know where to go with either of these comments (or similar ones that crop up over the year). Apples and oranges. You can't compare players from different era and expect them to mean anything.But since this was brought up . . .

# of times ranked in the league's Top 10:

BRADSHAW

- Completions (4)

- Passing Yards (5)

- Passing TD (8)

- Passer Rating (6)

- All Pro Selections (3)

- Super Bowl Titles (4)

GROSSMAN

- Completions (0)

- Passing Yards (0)

- Passing TD (1)

- Passer Rating (0)

- All-Pro Selections (0)

- Super Bowl Titles (0)

Pro Bowl Selections and Superbowl wins are meaningless. One is a popularity contest and the other is a team accomplishment (Terry didn't play defense). Number of times ranked in the top ten, while interesting, isn't really all that useful. People who have played many years will typically be in the top ten more than people who have played few years. Also, he was in the top ten in interceptions more than most of the categories you mentioned (8). He was also top ten in fumbles three times. This would be significant, no? And really, is "top ten in the league" Hall of Fame worthy? I'm not so sure.I'm not saying he wasn't a solid quarterback but the guy is in the Hall of Fame. Primarily, in my opinion, because of the teams he played on.

 

[David Yudkin]

Question do you think Ken Stabler should be in the HOF?

In THE HOF or MY HOF? Because they are different.The problem for Stabler is that he had some very strong years and led some really great Raiders teams. But he also had some pretty mediocre ones that left his career stats looking pretty pedestrian. Like more INT to TD pedestrian.On the plus side, he was a 3 time All Pro, and ranked numerous times in the Top 10 in completions (8), passing yards (7), passing TD (7), and passer rating (5).The Raiders team he QBed went:9-4-18-4-210-3-19-4-112-211-313-111-39-79-7That's 10 years without a losing season and a SB title. I would have him in my HOF as one of the great team leaders from the 70s, but that era did not have great passing totals so that won't help his chances in getting into Canton. He didn't become a starter until he was 28, and that also hurt his career numbers. He also led Houston to an 11-5 record his first year with the Oilers before being on some poor Oilers and Saints teams.But IMO his career totals won't help him (194 TD passes to 222 INT) and he does not rank in the Top 25 in any major passing category.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Bo was a once in a generation athlete. Better than MJ or Prime Time. Had he been healthy he would have put up huge numbers. Nobody is saying he was the best, but he could have been and if I am ever asked who is the best athlete I have ever seen it's one guy...Bo Jackson

You can thank roids. Sorry had to go there.

I have no doubt that many current and former NFL players took roids. But I don't think Bo was one of them. He had that body since high school. Same with AD. They are just genetic freaks. Mere mortals have to take roids to just get to where these guys started.

This could be true and I am not saying that he did. However, one of the side effects of steroid use is that they are more prone to injury.

Bingo. Young but smart.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Bo Jackson was as good as any RB I've ever seen on the field. Of course, he can't be considered one of the greats because he simply did not play long enough because of the injuries. But if you throw the stats out the window and recall how he was on the field in the time he did play, I'd put that up against any RB. The guy was a beast.

 

[Bri]

It's only fair to hold small sample size against Bo like we do for Priest and TD. If the OP meant, why don't people do that? I'd agree it's a bit hypocritical. However, memories become legends and in time Priest and TD may become better in some people's opinions. I don't like how that happens but...it does.

 

[David Yudkin]

Troy Aikman is the most overrated ever.

Terry Bradshaw? Guy has the same career rating as Rex Grossman.

I don't know where to go with either of these comments (or similar ones that crop up over the year). Apples and oranges. You can't compare players from different era and expect them to mean anything.But since this was brought up . . .

# of times ranked in the league's Top 10:

BRADSHAW

- Completions (4)

- Passing Yards (5)

- Passing TD (8)

- Passer Rating (6)

- All Pro Selections (3)

- Super Bowl Titles (4)

GROSSMAN

- Completions (0)

- Passing Yards (0)

- Passing TD (1)

- Passer Rating (0)

- All-Pro Selections (0)

- Super Bowl Titles (0)

Pro Bowl Selections and Superbowl wins are meaningless. One is a popularity contest and the other is a team accomplishment (Terry didn't play defense). Number of times ranked in the top ten, while interesting, isn't really all that useful. People who have played many years will typically be in the top ten more than people who have played few years. Also, he was in the top ten in interceptions more than most of the categories you mentioned (8). He was also top ten in fumbles three times. This would be significant, no? And really, is "top ten in the league" Hall of Fame worthy? I'm not so sure.I'm not saying he wasn't a solid quarterback but the guy is in the Hall of Fame. Primarily, in my opinion, because of the teams he played on.

Last time I checked football was a team sport and QBs were generally attributed as being team leaders. I've been in the camp for years that would say Bradshaw having spent 12 years on Tampa Bay would not have been a HOFer. But he was a Steeler, so that gets him in.If you noticed I listed ALL PRO selections, not Pro Bowl selections and there are WAY fewer guys selected to be All Pro than the Pro Bowl. I'm not saying Bradshaw was a great specimen at QB, but he was on a team that won a lot of games and titles and that will get any QB in the HOF under those circumstances.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Question do you think Ken Stabler should be in the HOF?

In THE HOF or MY HOF? Because they are different.The problem for Stabler is that he had some very strong years and led some really great Raiders teams. But he also had some pretty mediocre ones that left his career stats looking pretty pedestrian. Like more INT to TD pedestrian.On the plus side, he was a 3 time All Pro, and ranked numerous times in the Top 10 in completions (8), passing yards (7), passing TD (7), and passer rating (5).The Raiders team he QBed went:9-4-18-4-210-3-19-4-112-211-313-111-39-79-7That's 10 years without a losing season and a SB title. I would have him in my HOF as one of the great team leaders from the 70s, but that era did not have great passing totals so that won't help his chances in getting into Canton. He didn't become a starter until he was 28, and that also hurt his career numbers. He also led Houston to an 11-5 record his first year with the Oilers before being on some poor Oilers and Saints teams.But IMO his career totals won't help him (194 TD passes to 222 INT) and he does not rank in the Top 25 in any major passing category.

Lead a Saints team to 1 game and a missed fg from making the playoffs for the first time ever.Question about Stabler was that He may have fixed a game or two in His career.But I do think He should be in the HOF. Plain and Simple Stabler was a winner.