What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Mount Rushmore of national monuments? (1 Viewer)

Don't see how Arlington and the Lincoln aren't locks. Ellis Island is pretty great. I guess the Statue of Liberty could be in there. Maybe FDR or WWII.

 
108 national monuments

Pick your top-4 from these actual US National Monuments
Those are not the same 108 that I consider National Monuments.
I agree. Seems like a weird list. How is Mt Rushmore not even on there? No Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln on there either. No Independence Hall, Liberty Bell either. One that I'm surprised no has mentioned or that is on the list is the Alamo.
Apparently Rushmore is a "National Memorial" but not a "National Monument." And it looks like the title of the Washington Monument is actually the "Washington National Monument" but it was never actually made a National Monument.
We're making our own definitions.

 
108 national monuments

Pick your top-4 from these actual US National Monuments
Those are not the same 108 that I consider National Monuments.
I agree. Seems like a weird list. How is Mt Rushmore not even on there? No Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln on there either. No Independence Hall, Liberty Bell either. One that I'm surprised no has mentioned or that is on the list is the Alamo.
Apparently Rushmore is a "National Memorial" but not a "National Monument." And it looks like the title of the Washington Monument is actually the "Washington National Monument" but it was never actually made a National Monument.
We're making our own definitions.
I think we are going by lower case "national monument" -- meaning monuments located in the United States. And not upper case "National Monument" -- things designated by the President as "National Monuments."

 
The Empire State Building is on the U.S. National Register of Historical Places and is a U.S. National Historic Landmark. I'd give it consideration if we are loose with what we include.

 
This would make for a good FFA draft topic.... I don't want to participate, I just want to read for ideas for my next trip.

 
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Let's use a very general definition of a physical place that represents the USA. I would think using this definition it would cover all the places listed already.

Hoover Dam? Las Vegas? Hollywood Sign?
Statue of Liberty, US Congress building, Golden Gate Bridge, Grand Canyon in that situation. Those are probably the 4 most distinct landmarks that represent the US and are what foreigners think of when asked about US landmarks.
US Congress Building over the White House or Capital Building?

What about many of the locations in Philly? Independence Hall, Liberty Bell?
Sorry, Capitol building is what I should've said. And yeah, I'd put it over the White House. It's by far a more recognizable building (though oddly enough, I've run into more than my fair share of foreigners who thought the capitol building was was the white house. Probably because it is grander.)

As far as liberty bell, I outside of the bell itself, I couldn't tell you anything about the place it's at. I have no idea what independence hall looks like.
Liberty Bell isn't technically in the Independence Hall any more. It is in a separate building next to IH. C'mon anyone who has seen National Treasure would know that! ;)

As dgreen said, you could do this just with DC items...

U.S. Capitol Building

The US Marine Corps War Memorial (AKA Iwo Jima)

Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington National Cemetery)

Lincoln Memorial

If I could cheat and toss the Lincoln out and call for the whole "National Mall" I would. That includes Lincoln, Washington, Vietnam Veterans, Korean War, WWII, and all of the Smithsonian Museums. If you have never been to DC, this is just a wonderful place to go.
Those 2 aren't actually in DC.

 
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Let's use a very general definition of a physical place that represents the USA. I would think using this definition it would cover all the places listed already.

Hoover Dam? Las Vegas? Hollywood Sign?
Statue of Liberty, US Congress building, Golden Gate Bridge, Grand Canyon in that situation. Those are probably the 4 most distinct landmarks that represent the US and are what foreigners think of when asked about US landmarks.
US Congress Building over the White House or Capital Building?

What about many of the locations in Philly? Independence Hall, Liberty Bell?
Sorry, Capitol building is what I should've said. And yeah, I'd put it over the White House. It's by far a more recognizable building (though oddly enough, I've run into more than my fair share of foreigners who thought the capitol building was was the white house. Probably because it is grander.)

As far as liberty bell, I outside of the bell itself, I couldn't tell you anything about the place it's at. I have no idea what independence hall looks like.
Liberty Bell isn't technically in the Independence Hall any more. It is in a separate building next to IH. C'mon anyone who has seen National Treasure would know that! ;)

As dgreen said, you could do this just with DC items...

U.S. Capitol Building

The US Marine Corps War Memorial (AKA Iwo Jima)

Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington National Cemetery)

Lincoln Memorial

If I could cheat and toss the Lincoln out and call for the whole "National Mall" I would. That includes Lincoln, Washington, Vietnam Veterans, Korean War, WWII, and all of the Smithsonian Museums. If you have never been to DC, this is just a wonderful place to go.
Those 2 aren't actually in DC.
C'mon! Arlington, VA was originally supposed to be part of DC (It is the triangle that would make DC a square if you look at a map), and those two items are closer to the other monuments than most of DC.

 
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Let's use a very general definition of a physical place that represents the USA. I would think using this definition it would cover all the places listed already.

Hoover Dam? Las Vegas? Hollywood Sign?
Statue of Liberty, US Congress building, Golden Gate Bridge, Grand Canyon in that situation. Those are probably the 4 most distinct landmarks that represent the US and are what foreigners think of when asked about US landmarks.
US Congress Building over the White House or Capital Building?

What about many of the locations in Philly? Independence Hall, Liberty Bell?
Sorry, Capitol building is what I should've said. And yeah, I'd put it over the White House. It's by far a more recognizable building (though oddly enough, I've run into more than my fair share of foreigners who thought the capitol building was was the white house. Probably because it is grander.)

As far as liberty bell, I outside of the bell itself, I couldn't tell you anything about the place it's at. I have no idea what independence hall looks like.
Liberty Bell isn't technically in the Independence Hall any more. It is in a separate building next to IH. C'mon anyone who has seen National Treasure would know that! ;)

As dgreen said, you could do this just with DC items...

U.S. Capitol Building

The US Marine Corps War Memorial (AKA Iwo Jima)

Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington National Cemetery)

Lincoln Memorial

If I could cheat and toss the Lincoln out and call for the whole "National Mall" I would. That includes Lincoln, Washington, Vietnam Veterans, Korean War, WWII, and all of the Smithsonian Museums. If you have never been to DC, this is just a wonderful place to go.
Those 2 aren't actually in DC.
C'mon! Arlington, VA was originally supposed to be part of DC (It is the triangle that would make DC a square if you look at a map), and those two items are closer to the other monuments than most of DC.
I don't make the borders, buddy.

 
DC candidates would be the Washington Monument, Lincoln Memorial, White House, and Capitol. Poor Jefferson Memorial always gets overlooked. There are other good memorials/monuments in the area, but those 4 are clearly at the top.

Statue of Liberty should be in there, so that would knock out of those of those 4 DC locations.

I could also see Mount Rushmore knocking another one out.

Not sure anything else would be worthy of the top 4, though.
I was looking up some of the DC memorials. I never knew FDR had one. It seems like he kind of got the short end of the stick.

 
DC candidates would be the Washington Monument, Lincoln Memorial, White House, and Capitol. Poor Jefferson Memorial always gets overlooked. There are other good memorials/monuments in the area, but those 4 are clearly at the top.

Statue of Liberty should be in there, so that would knock out of those of those 4 DC locations.

I could also see Mount Rushmore knocking another one out.

Not sure anything else would be worthy of the top 4, though.
I was looking up some of the DC memorials. I never knew FDR had one. It seems like he kind of got the short end of the stick.
The FDR is fantastic. Great location, too.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Let's use a very general definition of a physical place that represents the USA. I would think using this definition it would cover all the places listed already.

Hoover Dam? Las Vegas? Hollywood Sign?
Statue of Liberty, US Congress building, Golden Gate Bridge, Grand Canyon in that situation. Those are probably the 4 most distinct landmarks that represent the US and are what foreigners think of when asked about US landmarks.
US Congress Building over the White House or Capital Building?

What about many of the locations in Philly? Independence Hall, Liberty Bell?
Sorry, Capitol building is what I should've said. And yeah, I'd put it over the White House. It's by far a more recognizable building (though oddly enough, I've run into more than my fair share of foreigners who thought the capitol building was was the white house. Probably because it is grander.)

As far as liberty bell, I outside of the bell itself, I couldn't tell you anything about the place it's at. I have no idea what independence hall looks like.
Liberty Bell isn't technically in the Independence Hall any more. It is in a separate building next to IH. C'mon anyone who has seen National Treasure would know that! ;)

As dgreen said, you could do this just with DC items...

U.S. Capitol Building

The US Marine Corps War Memorial (AKA Iwo Jima)

Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington National Cemetery)

Lincoln Memorial

If I could cheat and toss the Lincoln out and call for the whole "National Mall" I would. That includes Lincoln, Washington, Vietnam Veterans, Korean War, WWII, and all of the Smithsonian Museums. If you have never been to DC, this is just a wonderful place to go.
Those 2 aren't actually in DC.
C'mon! Arlington, VA was originally supposed to be part of DC (It is the triangle that would make DC a square if you look at a map), and those two items are closer to the other monuments than most of DC.
I don't make the borders, buddy.
Fine change it to Inside the Beltway monuments. :P

 
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Let's use a very general definition of a physical place that represents the USA. I would think using this definition it would cover all the places listed already.

Hoover Dam? Las Vegas? Hollywood Sign?
Statue of Liberty, US Congress building, Golden Gate Bridge, Grand Canyon in that situation. Those are probably the 4 most distinct landmarks that represent the US and are what foreigners think of when asked about US landmarks.
US Congress Building over the White House or Capital Building?

What about many of the locations in Philly? Independence Hall, Liberty Bell?
Sorry, Capitol building is what I should've said. And yeah, I'd put it over the White House. It's by far a more recognizable building (though oddly enough, I've run into more than my fair share of foreigners who thought the capitol building was was the white house. Probably because it is grander.)

As far as liberty bell, I outside of the bell itself, I couldn't tell you anything about the place it's at. I have no idea what independence hall looks like.
Liberty Bell isn't technically in the Independence Hall any more. It is in a separate building next to IH. C'mon anyone who has seen National Treasure would know that! ;)

As dgreen said, you could do this just with DC items...

U.S. Capitol Building

The US Marine Corps War Memorial (AKA Iwo Jima)

Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington National Cemetery)

Lincoln Memorial

If I could cheat and toss the Lincoln out and call for the whole "National Mall" I would. That includes Lincoln, Washington, Vietnam Veterans, Korean War, WWII, and all of the Smithsonian Museums. If you have never been to DC, this is just a wonderful place to go.
Those 2 aren't actually in DC.
C'mon! Arlington, VA was originally supposed to be part of DC (It is the triangle that would make DC a square if you look at a map), and those two items are closer to the other monuments than most of DC.
I don't make the borders, buddy.
Fine change it to Inside the Beltway monuments. :P
So Eden Center is now in the mix!

 
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Rayderr said:
bro1ncos said:
Let's use a very general definition of a physical place that represents the USA. I would think using this definition it would cover all the places listed already.

Hoover Dam? Las Vegas? Hollywood Sign?
Statue of Liberty, US Congress building, Golden Gate Bridge, Grand Canyon in that situation. Those are probably the 4 most distinct landmarks that represent the US and are what foreigners think of when asked about US landmarks.
US Congress Building over the White House or Capital Building?

What about many of the locations in Philly? Independence Hall, Liberty Bell?
Sorry, Capitol building is what I should've said. And yeah, I'd put it over the White House. It's by far a more recognizable building (though oddly enough, I've run into more than my fair share of foreigners who thought the capitol building was was the white house. Probably because it is grander.)

As far as liberty bell, I outside of the bell itself, I couldn't tell you anything about the place it's at. I have no idea what independence hall looks like.
Liberty Bell isn't technically in the Independence Hall any more. It is in a separate building next to IH. C'mon anyone who has seen National Treasure would know that! ;)

As dgreen said, you could do this just with DC items...

U.S. Capitol Building

The US Marine Corps War Memorial (AKA Iwo Jima)

Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Arlington National Cemetery)

Lincoln Memorial

If I could cheat and toss the Lincoln out and call for the whole "National Mall" I would. That includes Lincoln, Washington, Vietnam Veterans, Korean War, WWII, and all of the Smithsonian Museums. If you have never been to DC, this is just a wonderful place to go.
Those 2 aren't actually in DC.
C'mon! Arlington, VA was originally supposed to be part of DC (It is the triangle that would make DC a square if you look at a map), and those two items are closer to the other monuments than most of DC.
I don't make the borders, buddy.
Fine change it to Inside the Beltway monuments. :P
So Eden Center is now in the mix!
You know, despite working right on the otherside of the cluster#### that is the Seven Corners intersection, I never went there.

BTW, this monstrosity is also now in play.

 
When the everyday person in the world thinks of the USA I would imagine two things come to mind: Freedom and Movies.

Therefore, the top 2 that represent America are the Statue of Liberty and Hollywood sign.

I would say, Lady Liberty, Hollywood, Rushmore, Lincoln

 
Off the Wiki list -

Fort McHenry or Fort Sumpter (pick one I can't choose)

Statue of Liberty

WW II Valor in the Pacific

Castillo de San Marcos

Off a rational list that best embodies 'Merica...

Statue or Liberty

Mount Rushmore

Gateway Arch

Lincoln Memorial

And if we include NMPs -

Gettysburg NMP (but Southerners would disagree)

 
One must ask "what is a National Monument."

I am going with something that defines who we are. What is in our country that will create an image of who we are when we are asked to define America. So, what defines America for me?

1) The Capitol Building (extension of Democracy and a nation founded with those principals)

2) Statue of Liberty (Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me)

3) Arlington Cemetery (We have respect and humility when it comes to the preservation of our nation)

4) Crazy Horse Memorial (the people we took the land from need to be represented and their story preserved)

Just missing the cut:

a) Mount Rushmore, can be stated within the Capitol Building idea.

b) Sequoia National Forest, no matter who comes and goes, these trees rule the land here.

c) Montezuma's Castle, similar to #4 above.

d) Kennedy Space Center, because we do the things that are difficult.

 
I like this list. It tells a story of how Europeans conquered this land and how America became what it is..

Statue or Liberty - The entry of immigrants into this land and a symbol of our freedom

Lincoln Memorial - The hardship America had becoming a country and keeping it whole

Gateway Arch - Manifest destiny the expansion into the west

Golden Gate Bridge - The completion of the expansion to become the power we are today.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top