Moving to Europe (1 Viewer)

[RC94]

I have always wanted to live in Europe, but have no idea how to get a job there.  I don't work for a company that can transfer me so I would have to find a job on my own.  My background is in management consulting and sales strategy and operations, but I am open to any job that would pay the bills so it doesn't necessarily have to be in management consulting or sales strategy and operations.  I have been considering taking the courses and getting certified as a SalesForce Admin, but it will cost about $5000 to do that.  Since companies worldwide use that system it could open doors, and I have a background that would combine well with that career change, but I would obviously have an easier time finding a job like that here.  I have also considered something like being an English teacher, which makes it easier to find a job, but the pay is much lower than what I am used to. 

There are a number of cities in Europe I would consider moving to.  Have you guys moved to Europe and found a job there (not transferred by your company in the US)?  What was the process like?  Do you have any suggestions on how I go about trying to do this?  I don't speak another language but have no problem learning it. 

 

[kface]

check the eu blue card...i know a number of people that got job offers through it.  Been considering it myself lately

 

[El Floppo]

Dot.

 

[RC94]

check the eu blue card...i know a number of people that got job offers through it.  Been considering it myself lately

Thanks for the tip.  It looks like a work visa for most of EU countries.  How did your friends get job offers through it?  Looking at the website and it looks like you have to already have a job in the EU to qualify for the card.

 

[kface]

Thanks for the tip.  It looks like a work visa for most of EU countries.  How did your friends get job offers through it?  Looking at the website and it looks like you have to already have a job in the EU to qualify for the card.

No

Sign up and employers contact you based on your skills and such.  It's a pretty easy process.  You can still find employment outside of it but the blue card is what you want.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Dot

 

[The Z Machine]

Dot

 

[kutta]

No advice to offer at all, but good luck! 

 

[RokNRole]

There may be some kind of kind of mail order husband service that can help you get on the continent.

 

[Clown Car]

I have a friend living in Italy right now. She and her boyfriend are professional house sitters and have internet based jobs. My friend writes travel articles and other internety stuff. I don't know what he does. But they have been living this nomadic lifestyle for a couple years now. They started in Asia. They've been in morrocco and Portugal lately. Now Italy. They have no kids and very few personal belongings. I think they can each carry everything they own in a back pack. They are early 40s. If this is interest to you I will try to get some contact info for you. Maybe linking to the sites they use or something. 

 

[RC94]

I have a friend living in Italy right now. She and her boyfriend are professional house sitters and have internet based jobs. My friend writes travel articles and other internety stuff. I don't know what he does. But they have been living this nomadic lifestyle for a couple years now. They started in Asia. They've been in morrocco and Portugal lately. Now Italy. They have no kids and very few personal belongings. I think they can each carry everything they own in a back pack. They are early 40s. If this is interest to you I will try to get some contact info for you. Maybe linking to the sites they use or something. 

Thanks!  I will consider it.  That may be too much of a change for me, but it sounds interesting.

 

[jamny]

Good luck if you do it!

 

[BobbyLayne]

My niece is around 28 and moved overseas straight out of college (she and her husband got married the summer after graduating.) They teach english at Jesuit schools (went to a small Jesuit school in Ohio.)

• 3 years in China
  
• 2 years in Palma de Mallorca 
  
• 1 year in Barcelona
  

Came home in between China and the Balearic Islands to have a baby over the summer. At the end of year one in Spain this happened.

They've always been so chill about it. I'm freaking amazed a couple kids from a small midwestern town just did with no second thoughts. Like "NBD, we're moving 7,300 miles, don't know a single word of the language, never been, should be fun!"

Go for it, RC94!

Oh, and let us know about health care once you get there.

#askingforafriend

 

[Chemical X]

we plan on moving permanently to Italy in 3-5 years and have thought about many ways of earning a living.  there are many things to consider, first and foremost is language.  obviously London.  also consider malta, which is English speaking and quite exotic.  big issue is a visa, also becoming a resident and following the proper steps.  I believe the US state dept lists teaching jobs at international schools, but you need certification.  we have thought about a small b & b, teaching English as tutors or being real estate caretakers, just to earn some cash.

 

[mr. furley]

now about health care once you get there.

my brother lives over there. not long ago he had a medical emergency and wound up paying about 90 bucks out of pocket to get fixed up.

guesstimating but if it had happened to him here bills would have been about 1.3 billion dollars.

 

[The Z Machine]

I lived in Europe (Spain) in 2006-2007, about 18 months total.  I was about two years out of finishing my Master's degree when I started there.  Technically I was on a student visa although I wasn't enrolled at any school.  I was working for the Spanish government doing scientific/engineering research in one of their national research centers.  I got that job (which paid basically grad student wages, i.e. not much)  because I met a professor in grad school who worked in Spain and could get me a job working for him at the research center.

 It took about 9-10 months to get all my paperwork processed for the visa, and it wasn't easy.  I had to fly to Los Angeles and run my application through the consulate there because of the back log in visa applications that were run through the consulate in Miami.  My folks live in LA so it was easiest to execute it there.

The experience is probably one of the top 2-3 formative experiences in my life.  I was 26-27 at the time and I didn't mind scraping by on low wages.  My (now) wife joined me for a year and was there as an illegal immigrant.  She taught English for payment in cash and made more money than I did (after taxes).  Probably the only reason I returned to the US after 18 months was because she started grad school in California and I wanted to be with her more than being in Spain.  If it weren't for her, I'd probably still be there (or somewhere else in Europe) right now.

 

[The Z Machine]

Also, I would move back to Europe (or elsewhere abroad) and take my kids with me in a heartbeat.  But having two careers to deal with makes that a much tougher sell.  At this point it's more likely that my wife would get an offer to move to London or Geneva or Panama or something than I will.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Thanks!  I will consider it.  That may be too much of a change for me, but it sounds interesting.

I'm sure you could do lot of internety stuff.   I think that there is good money in web marketing cheap jersey good quality.

 

[RC94]

I started looking into the EU Blue Card, but they say you need a letter from your employer.  If given the choice of locations, out of the places I have been to (8 countries in Europe), I would like to live in Rome, Italy so I made an appointment with the visa office in the NYC location of their embassy.  The earliest appointment I could get is the end of July so it's going to take a while, but I will continue to look into it and try to move it forward.  It's not going to be an easy process, but it would be a dream come true if I can find a decent job in Europe (hopefully Rome) and build a new life there.  I am not expecting to, nor do I need to, make the kind of money I would expect to make here, so I am going to remain flexible on the job.  The point is to move to Europe and be able to build a good life there.  I will keep everyone posted.

 

[RC94]

Also, with regards to teaching, I would definitely consider it if it pays well enough.  I heard it's not nearly enough, though.  I am 45 and can't go back to living with roommates and living like a college kid.  I don't need much, but I do need to be able to live like an adult.

 

[Chemical X]

Also, with regards to teaching, I would definitely consider it if it pays well enough.  I heard it's not nearly enough, though.  I am 45 and can't go back to living with roommates and living like a college kid.  I don't need much, but I do need to be able to live like an adult.

do you need to go to the embassy or can you go to a consulate?  many more of those around.

 

[RC94]

do you need to go to the embassy or can you go to a consulate?  many more of those around.

Actually, I think it may be the consulate.  Wasn't sure there is a difference here since I think it's the same address.  They make you make an appointment online so for the NYC location the earliest I could get was late July.

 

[El Floppo]

I have a friend living in Italy right now. She and her boyfriend are professional house sitters and have internet based jobs. My friend writes travel articles and other internety stuff. I don't know what he does. But they have been living this nomadic lifestyle for a couple years now. They started in Asia. They've been in morrocco and Portugal lately. Now Italy. They have no kids and very few personal belongings. I think they can each carry everything they own in a back pack. They are early 40s. If this is interest to you I will try to get some contact info for you. Maybe linking to the sites they use or something. 

professional house-sitters.

so you're saying they're bums.

 

[El Floppo]

Actually, I think it may be the consulate.  Wasn't sure there is a difference here since I think it's the same address.  They make you make an appointment online so for the NYC location the earliest I could get was late July.

I lived in Milan when I was college-age (took a year off). amazing experience- and would love to move back there... so I'm envious and fully invested/supportive of your journey.

looking forward to hearing more.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Good luck! After spending several weeks in Italy last Spring, I would love to live there. 

 

[Chemical X]

Actually, I think it may be the consulate.  Wasn't sure there is a difference here since I think it's the same address.  They make you make an appointment online so for the NYC location the earliest I could get was late July.

i think i used philly.