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My problem with the game capsules (1 Viewer)

baronson

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i know i've posted on this topic before, so i don't want to sound like a broken record, so i'll keep this short.

this is in no way meant to be a criticism of FBGs as a whole, but i think the game capsules need to go beyond the box score. for example, if you watched the game with a critical eye last night, you saw Julius Jones miss countless blocks on blitzing linebackers, resulting in sacks (including the safety), and several other times where bledsoe was under pressure.

parcells even mentioned it in the post game in response to a question along the lines of "were you surprised at how easily the giants were able to get at the QB with their blitz packages" with "we have a guy in the backfield who's supposed to take care of that." sorry, don't have a link.

but that's the kind of info the capsules should have, in my opinion. to me it sounds like barber may get an uptick in reps at the expense of jones since jones is clearly incapable of picking up the blitz.

anyway, just my thoughts. anyone agree/disagree?

for what its worth, i'll almost def still continue to use FBG with or without the improvement, but this is one of the things i look for weekly and oftentimes it fails to add value.

 
anyway, just my thoughts. anyone agree/disagree?
Usually, if I have a problem with a particular business or service, I'll take it up with management. For example, if I purchased something at a department store and was unhappy with it, I would see one of the managers. I wouldn't simply walk into the store and start asking other customers how they felt about the product.That would be silly.
 
anyway, just my thoughts. anyone agree/disagree?
Usually, if I have a problem with a particular business or service, I'll take it up with management. For example, if I purchased something at a department store and was unhappy with it, I would see one of the managers. I wouldn't simply walk into the store and start asking other customers how they felt about the product.That would be silly.
that was really helpful, thanks.anyone with half a brain feel like commenting?
 
anyone with half a brain feel like commenting?
My boss would consider that a generous estimate...If you're referring to the "What You Should Know / What You Ought to Know" recaps - these are written by other FBG members. Cathy Fazio held auditions for these during the preseason; interested members submitted game recaps and she assigns regular season games based on the quality of these. Why don't you PM her and see if she'll look at one of your writeups?
 
i know i've posted on this topic before, so i don't want to sound like a broken record, so i'll keep this short. this is in no way meant to be a criticism of FBGs as a whole, but i think the game capsules need to go beyond the box score. for example, if you watched the game with a critical eye last night, you saw Julius Jones miss countless blocks on blitzing linebackers, resulting in sacks (including the safety), and several other times where bledsoe was under pressure.parcells even mentioned it in the post game in response to a question along the lines of "were you surprised at how easily the giants were able to get at the QB with their blitz packages" with "we have a guy in the backfield who's supposed to take care of that." sorry, don't have a link.but that's the kind of info the capsules should have, in my opinion. to me it sounds like barber may get an uptick in reps at the expense of jones since jones is clearly incapable of picking up the blitz.anyway, just my thoughts. anyone agree/disagree?for what its worth, i'll almost def still continue to use FBG with or without the improvement, but this is one of the things i look for weekly and oftentimes it fails to add value.
Hi baron,What kup with "half a brain" meant I think is that you'll almost always guaranteed to get a better reply from management by contacting management not with the message board. Fortunately, I happened to see your post though so that's cool.For depth, I agree. We struggle with the evenness of the reports. Some are definitely deeper than others simply because different people write them. As the owner / editor, it's my goal that they all look the same and appear as if one guy wrote them all. (Think Sporting News Team Reports)But that doesn't always happen. The other issue is some guys want just a bare bones Need to Know brief. Others want more. We do the Ought to know for them. But sometimes they blur.They're a constant work in process. They take just about all of my Monday each week and our guys put a lot of work in them as well. We'll keep trying to improve though.J
 
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To better clarify,The press conference after the game and comments insinuating Barber may see more or less time aren't covered in the game recaps. It's purely the game. We try to cover the press stuff in other areas like Players in the News.This was the recap for Monday Night. It may or may not have the depth people are looking for but it's pretty close to the goal of what we're trying to hit. Note for the online version, all the player names are linked to their player page and all that data is stored each week. In other words, from Drew Bledsoe's player page, you can see on one page all the game recap entries for him for the season so you can get a capsule view of how he's done in each game.

What you need to know New York Giants The Giants moved to the top of the NFC East with a comfortable win. The win came at a high price as LaVar Arrington suffered a ruptured Achilles’ tendon and is lost for the year. Osi Umenyiora left the game with a hip flexor injury and Frank Walker injured his hamstring. Eli Manning began well, finding Plaxico Burress on the opening drive for a 50 yard touchdown. Manning also threw a touchdown pass to Jeremy Shockey in the third quarter. He did not attempt many passes in the second half as the Giants had control of the game. Tiki Barber became the first player this season to run for a hundred yards against the Cowboys’ defense. But he again failed to find the end zone as Brandon Jacobs scored the Giants’ only rushing touchdown. Plaxico Burress was Manning’s favorite receiver with eight targets. He only caught two passes, but they resulted in a 50 yard touchdown and a 44 yard gain. The wide receivers only caught six passes between them. The Giants played very well on defense. Michael Strahan had a superb game, ending with two sacks, five solo tackles and a deflected pass which resulted in an interception. The defense registered six sacks and four interceptions, as well as a safety and a defensive touchdown. Dallas Cowboys The Cowboys were soundly beaten in a key divisional game. Drew Bledsoe lacked mobility and took too much time on several occasions. One play ended in a safety, and Bledsoe also threw an interception after leading the team inside the five yard line at the end of the first half. He was benched for the second half in favor of Tony Romo, despite running in a one yard touchdown. The change was far from a slam dunk though as Romo was intercepted on his first passing attempt, and he ended with three picks on the day. But there were signs that he was capable of lifting the offense and he threw touchdown passes to Terrell Owens and Patrick Crayton. The Cowboys failed to get the running game going. Julius Jones finished with 30 rushing yards and Marion Barber had 29. They only had six attempts in the second half as the game slipped out of reach. Terrell Owens was targeted 12 times and ended with six receptions for 98 yards and a touchdown. Owens dropped a key pass on fourth down, and the Giants scored on the following possession to put the team well ahead. Romo’s introduction seemed to spark Jason Witten. All of Witten’s five targets came in the second half with Romo in the game, and he caught four for a total of 72 yards. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------What you ought to know QB Eli Manning, Pass: 12 - 26 - 189 - 2 TD / 1 INT, Rush: 2 - 1 - 0 Manning had a fast start, completing his first three passes. He found Plaxico Burress in the end zone for a 50 yard touchdown to end the opening drive of the game. He was sacked on the following drive, and fumbled the ball, but the play was challenged and ruled an incomplete pass. Manning should have been intercepted on the Giants’ third drive after looking deep for Amani Toomer, but the defender dropped the ball. Manning found Burress for a 44 yard gain on the following drive. He then targeted Burress in the end zone and Jeremy Shockey at the one yard line, but both passes fell incomplete. Burress was again the end zone target on the Giants’ next drive, but this time Manning was intercepted by Terence Newman. Manning attempted a dangerous pass at the end of the first half, and should have been intercepted. The Giants scored on their opening possession of the second half when Shockey escaped the coverage from Roy Williams for Manning to find him for a 13 yard touchdown. With the game in hand, Manning did not attempt many passes for the remainder of the game. RB Tiki Barber, Rush: 27 - 114 - 0, Rec: 4 - 32 - 0 (4 targets) Barber became the first player this season to gain 100 rushing yards against the Cowboys. He only had three runs in excess of ten yards, but almost every carry resulted in positive yardage. Barber fumbled the ball away in the second quarter and was hurt on the play, but he returned on the following drive and was fine. Barber again gave way to Brandon Jacobs in short yardage situations, and it was Jacobs that scored the Giants’ only rushing touchdown. Barber is still scoreless on the season. He was targeted four times in the passing game, making all four catches for a total of 32 yards. In an interview shown during the game, Barber announced that he will definitely retire at the end of the season. He had his 2000th career carry during the game and lies second in yards per carry to Barry Sanders among players reaching that milestone. RB Brandon Jacobs, Rush: 10 - 40 - 1 Jacobs had one carry in the first half, converting a third and one with a five yard gain. He was used more in the second half as the Giants built a commanding lead. Jacobs was the preferred choice in short yardage situations. He showed excellent strength and carried defenders or broke tackles after initial contact. Jacobs scored on a three yard run after being hit behind the line of scrimmage. WR Amani Toomer, Rec: 3 - 26 - 0 (6 targets) Toomer made a seven yard reception to give the Giants their opening first down of the game. On the Giants’ third drive, he was the target on a deep pass which almost resulted in an interception. Toomer made two catches for first downs in the second half, but had a quiet day. WR Plaxico Burress, Rec: 2 - 94 - 1 (8 targets) Burress began the game by catching a 50 yard touchdown pass on the Giants’ opening drive. The ball was thrown into the end zone and he jumped above a defender to make the catch. Roy Williams might have been able to prevent it, but he was impeded by an official. Burress caught a pass for a 44 yard gain on the Giants’ fourth drive. He was then targeted in the end zone but the ball was knocked away by the defender. He was the end zone target on the Giants’ following drive, but the ball was off target and Terence Newman made the interception. With the Giants building a big lead, Burress was only targeted twice in the second half. He dropped one easy reception. The Cowboys moved Anthony Henry to cover Burress in an attempt to combat his height advantage. WR Tim Carter, Rec: 1 - 14 - 0 (1 targets) Carter was only targeted once in the game. He made the catch for a 14 yard gain and a first down. TE Jeremy Shockey, Rec: 2 - 23 - 1 (5 targets) Shockey was not heavily involved in the passing game in the first half. Manning targeted him just once in the half at the one yard line, but the ball was uncatchable. Shockey’s role increased in the second half and he scored on the Giants’ opening possession after making a 13 yard catch. Shockey caught a ten yard pass for a first down on the next possession. He again managed to finish the game, dispelling any fears about his fitness. PK Jay Feely 2 - 2 FG, 4 - 4 XP, 10 points Feely made field goals of 31 and 32 yards, and converted his four extra point attempts. NYG Rush Defense The Giants held the Cowboys to 69 net rushing yards, 22 of those yards came on one play near the end of the game with the result beyond doubt. NYG Pass Defense The pass defense allowed several big plays. Most of the damage was done in the second half as Tony Romo was throwing on almost every down with the Cowboys trailing. Terrell Owens scored an eight yard touchdown before Patrick Crayton hauled in a 53 yard reception for another touchdown. Michael Strahan had a very strong game, ending with two sacks and five tackles. He also deflected Romo’s first pass and it was intercepted. The Giants managed six sacks and four interceptions in the game. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------QB Tony Romo, Pass: 14 - 25 - 227 - 2 TD / 3 INT, Rush: 1 - 9 - 0 Romo began badly and was intercepted on his first pass after the ball was tipped by Michael Strahan and caught by Antonio Pierce. He improved after that and found Terrell Owens for an eight yard score on the Cowboys’ third drive of the second half, and ran in the two point conversion himself. But Romo was inconsistent and he made a lot of mistakes. He was intercepted after throwing an inaccurate screen pass intended for Julius Jones. He threw the ball up to avoid a sack on the following drive and should have been intercepted, but the defender couldn’t make the play. After leading the team to the Giants’ four yard line, Romo was intercepted by Kevin Dockery for a 96 yard touchdown. Romo did find Patrick Crayton for a 53 yard touchdown late in the game, but the game was well beyond reach by that point. There were some positives to be drawn from Romo’s performance. He made quick decisions and showed good mobility at times. He was able to buy time for his receivers to get open. Jason Witten became a dangerous target and was very involved while Romo was in the game. QB Drew Bledsoe, Pass: 7 - 12 - 111 - 0 TD / 1 INT, Rush: 1 - 1 - 1 Bledsoe came under intense pressure from the Giants’ pass rush. The offensive line allowed LaVar Arrington to sack Bledsoe for a safety, and Bledsoe had no chance. He was at fault on other plays after taking far too long to release the ball. Bledsoe scored on a one yard run, but the replay showed that he may have been a few inches short. The play went unchallenged and the score stood. The Cowboys had a chance to get back into the game at the end of the first half when recovering a Tiki Barber fumble at the Giants’ 14 yard line. Unfortunately for the Cowboys, Bledsoe made a very poor throw and was intercepted by Sam Madison. He was benched for the whole of the second half in favor of Tony Romo. The reasons given were Bledsoe’s mistakes and lack of mobility. RB Julius Jones, Rush: 13 - 30 - 0, Rec: 1 - 25 - 0 (2 targets) Jones was unable to move the ball successfully on the ground, and he finished with 30 yards on 13 carries. His biggest gain of the day came on the Cowboys’ third possession when he took a screen pass 25 yards. Jones was the intended target when Romo was intercepted by Fred Robbins on a screen pass. RB Marion Barber III, Rush: 6 - 29 - 0, Rec: 1 - 17 - 0 (2 targets) Barber saw action on the few occasions that the Cowboys were in scoring situations. He was unable to make much headway until late in the game when the Giants were playing the pass. Barber broke one run for 22 yards and caught one of his two targets for a 17 yard gain. With the game out of reach, he only carried the ball a total of six times. WR Terrell Owens, Rec: 6 - 98 - 1 (12 targets) Owens was the most heavily targeted receiver in the game. On the Cowboys’ third drive, Bledsoe got the ball back from Julius Jones on a flea-flicker, and looked deep for an open Owens. The ball was tipped at the line and did not reach its intended target. Bledsoe did manage to find Owens deep for a 31 yard gain on the Cowboys’ fifth drive, and then followed it with a 17 yard pass which also found Owens. Brandon Short hit Owens hard on the play, but he was able to jump up unhurt. Owens was an end zone target at the end of the same drive, and drew a pass interference call to set up a Bledsoe one yard touchdown run. Owens could be seen on the sidelines talking animatedly with coaches and Terry Glenn. The announcers of course tried to make that into something but Owens was not a problem. He also encouraged QBs Drew Bledsoe and Tony Romo. Romo targeted Owens eight times in the second half. Owens made an 18 yard reception on third and two but he then dropped an easy pass when open on fourth down. He was visibly disgusted with himself as the Giants moved down the field for a score. Owens caught an eight yard touchdown pass on the following drive and had a 17 yard gain later in the game. He had more chances to get open with Romo scrambling and buying time. WR Terry Glenn, Rec: 4 - 41 - 0 (8 targets) Glenn was targeted four times in each half. He caught four of the passes for a total of 32 yards, including two for first downs. But none of the big plays were made by Glenn on the day. WR Patrick Crayton, Rec: 3 - 69 - 1 (4 targets) Crayton was targeted once in the first half and he made the catch for a 10 yard gain. He converted a first down with a six yard reception in the second half. Romo looked for Crayton again near the goal line, but the ball was badly thrown and the play resulted in Romo’s third pick of the day. Romo did find Crayton on the next drive and the play resulted in a 53 yard touchdown. WR Sam Hurd (1 targets) Hurd was targeted just once in the game and was unable to make the catch. TE Jason Witten, Rec: 4 - 72 - 0 (5 targets) Witten was not targeted by Bledsoe in the first half. When Romo entered the game at the start of the second half, Witten looked a lot more dangerous. He was targeted five times and was very effective when he got the ball. Witten had a 31 yard gain to keep alive a drive that led to an Owens touchdown. He caught a 15 yard pass on third and 14 on the following drive, and a 21 yard pass on the next drive. It should be noted that the Cowboys were trailing badly by that point so the Giants may have been focusing on limiting big plays to the receivers. TE Anthony Fasano, Rec: 2 - 16 - 0 (3 targets) Fasano was targeted three times in the game, making two receptions for a total of 16 yards. PK Mike Vanderjagt 0 - 0 FG, 2 - 2 XP, 2 points Vanderjagt made both of his extra point tries. DAL Rush Defense The Cowboys allowed a 100 yard rusher for the first time this season. The Giants had 155 net rushing yards as Tiki Barber gained 114 yards and Brandon Jacobs made tacklers miss for a three yard touchdown. The Cowboys allowed Barber positive yardage on almost every carry, but they did force one fumble which they recovered. DAL Pass Defense The Cowboys gave up a 50 yard touchdown pass on the Giants’ opening drive when Plaxico Burress was able to leap above the defenders in the end zone. Burress was also able to gain 44 yards on another catch. Roy Williams was beaten by a good move from Jeremy Shockey which resulted in a 13 yard touchdown. The defense sacked Manning twice and was able to intercept him once, but the Giants did not have to pass very much in the second half with the game well in hand.
I personally wouldn't call that "no depth". But I also realize the customer is right and we'll continue to hone these.J
 
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hey Joe,

i'm reluctant to contact you (or mgmt) directly until i'm sure i'm representing a larger class of people who feel the same way. with XX,000 subscribers, i don't expect you to answer to each and every one. that's why i posed it to the msg boards to get a dialogue going. in any event, i think you guys have a great product, but i think the capsules are definitely one of your weaker products in the subscriber content, if only because they often seem like a regurgitation of the box score (i've said this before, so i'm feeling a bit redundant).

in any case, i know a ton of work must go into them as they are currently, and inasmuch as i don't know how these writers are compensated, i have no way of knowing if they're worth the dime, but i'm finding myself using them less and less due to a lack of in-game depth. especially when you consider that they used to be more useful, in my opinion.

having said that, i have no problem offering constructive criticism, should you have no problem taking some. in any event, thanks for your ear.

 
A portion of my PM to Joe, but posted here for others to comment on for feedback purposes......

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I do not have a problem with the content, but since the recaps came up today on the MB - I'd like to see them start in preseason next year.

The preseason box score is full of aberations and such and I'd like a first hand recap of the games I can't watch from someone who did to help with my predraft analysis. Who looked good vs. the first team D and who got 150 yards vs. the scrubs kinda stuff would be GREAT to know.

 
baronson said:
hey Joe,i'm reluctant to contact you (or mgmt) directly until i'm sure i'm representing a larger class of people who feel the same way. with XX,000 subscribers, i don't expect you to answer to each and every one. that's why i posed it to the msg boards to get a dialogue going. in any event, i think you guys have a great product, but i think the capsules are definitely one of your weaker products in the subscriber content, if only because they often seem like a regurgitation of the box score (i've said this before, so i'm feeling a bit redundant).in any case, i know a ton of work must go into them as they are currently, and inasmuch as i don't know how these writers are compensated, i have no way of knowing if they're worth the dime, but i'm finding myself using them less and less due to a lack of in-game depth. especially when you consider that they used to be more useful, in my opinion.having said that, i have no problem offering constructive criticism, should you have no problem taking some. in any event, thanks for your ear.
Hi baron,Thanks for the feedback. So I'm understanding you correctly, in your opinion does the recap above really have "no depth"?I'm trying to get a feel for what folks are looking for here.Thanks.J
 
Not to butt in, but I'll offer my opinion...

I have recently begun to think the same thing as baron, the recaps don't provide a lot of information that I don't already know, or can't deduce from the box score. I usually skim the recaps, focusing on players on my teams, or guys I may be targeting in trades or WW pickups.

When I read the recap posted above, I realize that there actually is A LOT of info in there. Just 2 examples are Plaxico Burress and Tony Romo. There is a lot of detail regarding key plays they did or did not make, and why this happened. This is very useful stuff.

Now my conclusion is that the reason I'm finding these less useful is that I'm watching more games now (Sunday Ticket + DVR = gift from God), and I read most of the other commentary and posts on the MB. In other words, the content is good, but I'm getting it elsewhere beforehand. I don't know if this is something baron is experiencing as well or not, but he asked for opinions, so there you go.

I'd say the writeups are good the way they are. Keep up the good work.

 
I usually don't see more than 3-4 games per week. So I need to get information about the games I did not see. I usually read the entire gamebook for every game: stats + play by play, so that includes if a player was replaced (Bledsoe), plays called back due to penalty, etc.

I don't think the NYG-DAL recap above is that bad. It does give info I don't get from the gamebook. But there are several FBG recaps that I could have written myself just by summarizing the gamebook. Those provide zero value to people who look at stats & the gamebook.

The problem is that I don't know upfront if a particular recap will be worthwhile before reading it because I don't know who wrote it. That's the problem of uneven quality of write-ups and not knowing who the author is. That kinda forces me to read them all and feel frustrated at times. But yet I can't completely discard them since some are very well done and useful - I just don't know which ones up front.

:2cents:

 
Baron and others, can you point me towards some game recap type information that you do find useful?

I'm interested to see what you guys find helpful and it helps me better understand what we're doing here.

Thanks.

J

 
Not to play devil's advocate here, but I actually look forward a lot to the game recaps as the beginning of my weekly study and planning. They give an excellent synop imo to the games, add enough details to see more of each player's performance and how he was used in the gameplan, and provide a starting point for me to know which players to target or study further and how teams and players are progressing week-to-week.

The difference, in my case, might be that I don't get to watch ANY games on most weekends (I managed to watch my one full game this season during week 6, but didn't get within sniffing distance of a tv this past weekend). Generally don't get to see the ESPN reports and can't check in on the computer until mid-morning Mondays--thus these reports are frequently the first things I look for. Once I see which direction the games have gone, then I know to go further into the box reports and subsequent commentary. I do think most of what everybody is asking for is on either the main site or these forums during analysis--and my own schedule works well with those reports being the initial wrapup and analysis rather than the entire detailed breakdown.

 
Joe,

i think the Detroit/Jets writeup this week was excellent. it gave me a great idea of how Kitna was looking for his receivers, how Furrey was connecting with him, how Jones was being used with the team behind (and how he looked doing it), how Washington looked, etc. with the writeup above, i have to agree with you in retrospect, that when it comes to Bledsoe, Romo, Witten, and a couple others. however, i felt like the Barber/Jones writeups left a lot of the story out, from the game i was watching anyway.

i realize this is probably among the most time consuming of all the weekly subscriber content, so i temper my expectations. however, i feel as though the "off-the-ball" detail is often overlooked. things like how RBs block on passing downs (i think) is key info, especially when discussing a RBBC. also the time and score of the game in which big plays or touch frequency occur are important, but i feel like that is pretty well covered, generally speaking.

a get frustrated though when i read a regurgitation of the box score. i will say though, that in recent weeks its gotten a bit better.

thanks again for your attention.

 
WR Greg Jennings, Rec: 1 - 26 - 0 (10 targets)The sensational rookie received plenty of looks, but only caught one pass for 26 yards. He seemed able to get open easy enough, but Favre and Rodgers couldn’t get the ball to him.
A guy that's been hurt for several weeks finally plays but only catches one ball on TEN targets, and FBGs explanation is Favre and Rodgers couldn't get him the ball?A bit disappointing to say the least..
 
WR Greg Jennings, Rec: 1 - 26 - 0 (10 targets)

The sensational rookie received plenty of looks, but only caught one pass for 26 yards. He seemed able to get open easy enough, but Favre and Rodgers couldn’t get the ball to him.
A guy that's been hurt for several weeks finally plays but only catches one ball on TEN targets, and FBGs explanation is Favre and Rodgers couldn't get him the ball?A bit disappointing to say the least..
Hi val,I'm not sure what more to say about a guy that caught 1 ball. Our point was that he looked ok and he was able to get open. In other words, Jennings seems ok. His poor performance can be laid much more at the feet of the QBs. In my opinion, that info is exactly what we're trying to do with the game recaps. One could look at the boxscore and conclude Jennings is still hobbled. "1 catch for 26 years, he must really be hurt."

The reality from the game recap is that 1) He was a key part of the game plan and targeted heavily and 2) He was able to get open but the problem was more with the QB. This may not be what you're looking for, but honestly, that's the target of what we're trying to do with these recaps.

Another cool feature is that you can go to the player page for a guy like Jennings: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/JennGr00-2.php

And then click on the Outlook tab: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/JennGr00-1.php

You'll see his projected stats and his recent stats. And also the game summaries for him for each week. This lets you take a look at what he's done since the injury. (which was week 8)

Week 9 at BUF - Jennings recovered from an ankle injury in the Miami game (that caused him to miss last week’s game against Arizona) to play in this game. He made one remarkable catch along the sideline at the end of the first half on a ball tipped by the defender where he managed to catch and keep both feet in bounds. However, he re-aggravated his ankle injury and he left the game soon after.

Week 10 at MIN - Jennings started this game despite dealing with a sprained ankle. Jennings had a big catch in the third quarter for 12 yards and tossed a lateral pass to Donald Driver who took it another 30 yards and brought the ball to the Minnesota 15 yard line. He also had an important 14 yard reception on a third down play in the third quarter to keep a drive alive.

Week 11 vs NE - The sensational rookie received plenty of looks, but only caught one pass for 26 yards. He seemed able to get open easy enough, but Favre and Rodgers couldn’t get the ball to him.
Again, this may not be what everyone is looking for and I know we'll never hit the goal for everyone. But when I lay out what we're trying to accomplish with the game recaps, this is pretty close.J

 
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WR Greg Jennings, Rec: 1 - 26 - 0 (10 targets)The sensational rookie received plenty of looks, but only caught one pass for 26 yards. He seemed able to get open easy enough, but Favre and Rodgers couldn’t get the ball to him.
A guy that's been hurt for several weeks finally plays but only catches one ball on TEN targets, and FBGs explanation is Favre and Rodgers couldn't get him the ball?A bit disappointing to say the least..
:lmao: any kind of evidence to support the notion that your explanation is more valid than the FBG one?or better yet - did you even watch the game?
 
WR Greg Jennings, Rec: 1 - 26 - 0 (10 targets)

The sensational rookie received plenty of looks, but only caught one pass for 26 yards. He seemed able to get open easy enough, but Favre and Rodgers couldn’t get the ball to him.
A guy that's been hurt for several weeks finally plays but only catches one ball on TEN targets, and FBGs explanation is Favre and Rodgers couldn't get him the ball?A bit disappointing to say the least..
Hi val,I'm not sure what more to say about a guy that caught 1 ball. Our point was that he looked ok and he was able to get open. In other words, Jennings seems ok. His poor performance can be laid much more at the feet of the QBs. In my opinion, that info is exactly what we're trying to do with the game recaps. One could look at the boxscore and conclude Jennings is still hobbled. "1 catch for 26 years, he must really be hurt."

The reality from the game recap is that 1) He was a key part of the game plan and targeted heavily and 2) He was able to get open but the problem was more with the QB. This may not be what you're looking for, but honestly, that's the target of what we're trying to do with these recaps.

Another cool feature is that you can go to the player page for a guy like Jennings: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/JennGr00-2.php

And then click on the Outlook tab: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/JennGr00-1.php

You'll see his projected stats and his recent stats. And also the game summaries for him for each week. This lets you take a look at what he's done since the injury. (which was week 8)

Week 9 at BUF - Jennings recovered from an ankle injury in the Miami game (that caused him to miss last week’s game against Arizona) to play in this game. He made one remarkable catch along the sideline at the end of the first half on a ball tipped by the defender where he managed to catch and keep both feet in bounds. However, he re-aggravated his ankle injury and he left the game soon after.

Week 10 at MIN - Jennings started this game despite dealing with a sprained ankle. Jennings had a big catch in the third quarter for 12 yards and tossed a lateral pass to Donald Driver who took it another 30 yards and brought the ball to the Minnesota 15 yard line. He also had an important 14 yard reception on a third down play in the third quarter to keep a drive alive.

Week 11 vs NE - The sensational rookie received plenty of looks, but only caught one pass for 26 yards. He seemed able to get open easy enough, but Favre and Rodgers couldn’t get the ball to him.
Again, this may not be what everyone is looking for and I know we'll never hit the goal for everyone. But when I lay out what we're trying to accomplish with the game recaps, this is pretty close.J
Thanks Joe. I appreciate all of the work FBG does and for the most part I've been a very satisfied customer for several years, but the game recaps seem a bit inconsistent. A perfect example is your quote of the week 9, 10, and 11 games for Jennings. Why do you offer more detailed analysis on some games, but others have almost nothing we couldn't discover from looking at the boxscore? The entire GB/NE recap is far below the quality standard of FBGs, in my opinion.
 
WR Greg Jennings, Rec: 1 - 26 - 0 (10 targets)The sensational rookie received plenty of looks, but only caught one pass for 26 yards. He seemed able to get open easy enough, but Favre and Rodgers couldn’t get the ball to him.
A guy that's been hurt for several weeks finally plays but only catches one ball on TEN targets, and FBGs explanation is Favre and Rodgers couldn't get him the ball?A bit disappointing to say the least..
:lmao: any kind of evidence to support the notion that your explanation is more valid than the FBG one?or better yet - did you even watch the game?
No, I didn't watch the game. I look at the recaps every week for players I didn't get to see and usually FBG provides some "beyond the boxscore" information. But then on occasion you get a sub-par effort like the GB/NE recap.
 

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