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[Tigerbot Hesh]

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[Go deep]

This is a good example of the crappiest kinds of threads in the Shark Pool. For a group of people that supposedly are big NFL fans, many posters can't recognize that the NFL is not a fantasy league. Furthermore, nobody is interested in what you think might be a potential trade if the NFL were a fantasy league. All this thread does is invite X% of posts saying "I own Player X and this would be sweet!" and X% of posts (like this one) pointing out how stupid even discussing something like this is.

There is a 0% chance, 0%, that the Packers trade for Marshawn Lynch. HTH.

Keep these arbitrary, asinine thoughts confined to general discussions about Brandon Jackson or Ryan Grant, or, even better, keep them to yourself. They're a waste of time, and you're degrading the value of the SP.

Good day.

Thanks for the thought Newb.

Dunno what's so funny. He was right on the money.

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[Grigs Allmoon]

This is a good example of the crappiest kinds of threads in the Shark Pool. For a group of people that supposedly are big NFL fans, many posters can't recognize that the NFL is not a fantasy league. Furthermore, nobody is interested in what you think might be a potential trade if the NFL were a fantasy league. All this thread does is invite X% of posts saying "I own Player X and this would be sweet!" and X% of posts (like this one) pointing out how stupid even discussing something like this is.

There is a 0% chance, 0%, that the Packers trade for Marshawn Lynch. HTH.

Keep these arbitrary, asinine thoughts confined to general discussions about Brandon Jackson or Ryan Grant, or, even better, keep them to yourself. They're a waste of time, and you're degrading the value of the SP.

Good day.

Thanks for the thought Newb.

Dunno what's so funny. He was right on the money.

He was? This is not a place for talking/debating/pontificating about the NFL?

 

[SSOG]

He was? This is not a place for talking/debating/pontificating about the NFL?

I meant on the point that threads where random people with no inside information start baseless and unsubstantiated speculation on what NFL teams might do being the crappiest threads in the Shark Pool. If you read a story that a team is actually considering it, or if you hear rumors from trusted sources that it might be in the works, or something like that, then sure... share away. Otherwise it basically amounts to a great big "if I were running the Green Bay Packers like I run my fantasy team, this is what I'd do". I come to the Shark Pool for news and analysis, not "what if" scenarios conjured from the ether.The worst part is that now if there ever is a credible report that Green Bay management is considering making a move for Marshawn Lynch, it'll probably get buried here in one of these threads full of baseless speculation where I'll never see it. Instead of getting a thread titled "Report: Green Bay considering making a move for Lynch", we get a thread titled "Here's a whacky idea I just had!" that has a post titled "Report: Green Bay considering making a move for Lynch" buried somewhere on page 4 amidst all of the "What would YOU do if you were Ted Thompson?" posts.Perhaps it's just me, but I'd really like it if the rampant speculation in the Pool was a little less rampant and a little less speculative. You know, a little more based on actual information.

 

[netnalp]

SSOG

Finley threads are garbage too, they've just become a place to recycle Chuck Norris & Tim Tebow jokes.

 

[tommyGunZ]

LOL - after all the bashing, here come the rumors:

Rodgers on trading for Bills RB Lynch: "Bring him on"

Rodgers on trading for Bills RB Lynch: 'Bring him on'

By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel

Sept. 15, 2010 2:53 p.m. |(255) COMMENTS

Green Bay - Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers was asked Wednesday what he would say to the Packers if they asked for his opinion about a possible deal for disgruntled Bills running back Marshawn Lynch, Rodgers' former Cal teammate.

"Bring him on," Rodgers said, without hesitation.

Not even with his character knocks?

"He's a great player," Rodgers said of Lynch. "And any character issues the team might see, I think in a situation like that, and I think you've seen that with other players across the league, when you give a guy a change of scenery and a guy like that who feels he might have something to prove, and surround him with two guys, (Desmond) Bishop and myself who played with him...I think that can only help him feel comfortable and see a lot of production."

Rodgers said the Packers have not asked him about Lynch, and that Rodgers and Lynch have not spoken.

Yahoo!Sports columnist Michael Silver, another Cal grad (sensing a pattern here?), wrote a column about how much sense a Packers-Lynch union would make.

Any deal appears to be a long shot. Silver reported Lynch might not even be on the block. And that before the draft, the Bills turned down an offer of a third-round pick and a player for Lynch.

Even a third-round pick would likely be too rich for Ted Thompson.

 

[CaptainHook]

why the hell would the bills turn down a 3rd rounder for lynch lmao

 

[Go deep]

He was? This is not a place for talking/debating/pontificating about the NFL?

I meant on the point that threads where random people with no inside information start baseless and unsubstantiated speculation on what NFL teams might do being the crappiest threads in the Shark Pool. If you read a story that a team is actually considering it, or if you hear rumors from trusted sources that it might be in the works, or something like that, then sure... share away. Otherwise it basically amounts to a great big "if I were running the Green Bay Packers like I run my fantasy team, this is what I'd do". I come to the Shark Pool for news and analysis, not "what if" scenarios conjured from the ether.The worst part is that now if there ever is a credible report that Green Bay management is considering making a move for Marshawn Lynch, it'll probably get buried here in one of these threads full of baseless speculation where I'll never see it. Instead of getting a thread titled "Report: Green Bay considering making a move for Lynch", we get a thread titled "Here's a whacky idea I just had!" that has a post titled "Report: Green Bay considering making a move for Lynch" buried somewhere on page 4 amidst all of the "What would YOU do if you were Ted Thompson?" posts.Perhaps it's just me, but I'd really like it if the rampant speculation in the Pool was a little less rampant and a little less speculative. You know, a little more based on actual information.

Are you still sticking by the zero percent chance that it happens?

 

[netnalp]

What rumor, just more speculation. They asked Rodgers opinion, doesn't give any indication that GB is actually interested.

 

[theplayer11]

NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that the Bills are telling teams Marshawn Lynch "is not available."

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

lol at this thread.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

You'd figure the Bills would be better off with trading Lynch for a mid rd pick and using a 1st rd and that mid pick to draft 2 QB's so they can get rid of the junk they have now.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that the Bills are telling teams Marshawn Lynch "is not available."

And that's why they'll remain awful for the foreseeable future.2003 spend 1st round pick on a RB that just blew out his knee and won't play for a year2007 get fed up with his <4 ypc and trade him for a third round pick2007 spend high 1st round pick on a RB2010 get fed up with his <4 ypc and let him rot on the bench, rebuffing all trade inquiries2010 spend high 1st round pick on a RB despite having two starter-quality RBs and glaring weaknesses up and down the rosterI think I see what's coming c. 2013 or so.

 

[Go deep]

For those who are this upset by this thread, why click on it? I clearly stated it was my thought, and never said it was an actual rumor.

It has nothing to do with fantasy football either. The Packers asked about Lynch during the offseason, and i simply started a thread asking if anyone thought the Packers would consider contacting the Bills about Lynch now that Grant is out for the season.

The only thing making this thread 4 pages of crap is your complaing about how much you hate a thread you keep posting in.

 

[moderated]

lol at this thread.

 

[BallparkFrank]

More fuel for the fire as AJ Hawk's agent just went on record as saying they're open to a trade.

GB Press Gazette

 

[SSOG]

Are you still sticking by the zero percent chance that it happens?

Link to where I said it was a zero percent chance? Good luck finding one, because it never happened. I understand basic math well enough to avoid saying something has a 0% chance of happening. A 1% chance, maybe, but a 0% chance? Never.What I said was that it was a crazy idea with no substance behind it. Am I still sticking to that? Well, to my knowledge, nothing's happened in the 10 minutes since I last said it to change my mind...

 

[HoleFiller]

Lynch will rot on Buffalo's bench so please stop dreaming....

Lynch has at most 15 games left in his Buffalo career.

Maybe, maybe not....look at his salary for the next 3 yrs next to nothing...7/27/2007: Signed a six-year, $18.935 million contract. The deal contains $10.285 million guaranteed, including a $3 million signing bonus. 2010: $885,000, 2011: $1.14 million, 2012: $1.14 million (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent

Really? Most teams pay their third back over a million to sit the bench and not play special teams?

 

[GoNads]

For those who are this upset by this thread, why click on it? I clearly stated it was my thought, and never said it was an actual rumor.It has nothing to do with fantasy football either. The Packers asked about Lynch during the offseason, and i simply started a thread asking if anyone thought the Packers would consider contacting the Bills about Lynch now that Grant is out for the season.The only thing making this thread 4 pages of crap is your complaing about how much you hate a thread you keep posting in.

Agreed. No harm in speculating, debating and wondering about the what ifs. I stashed Lynch on my bench just for a possibility such as this one and have enjoyed reading through people's opinions and theories FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. This is a big part of the fun of FFL folks. None of us know anything for sure, so speculation land is where we all live in.Pretty silly is a post complaining that people have arbitrary positions on the first line, which also states a radical and arbitrary position of 0% chance on the second line.

 

[Go deep]

Are you still sticking by the zero percent chance that it happens?

Link to where I said it was a zero percent chance? Good luck finding one, because it never happened. I understand basic math well enough to avoid saying something has a 0% chance of happening. A 1% chance, maybe, but a 0% chance? Never.What I said was that it was a crazy idea with no substance behind it. Am I still sticking to that? Well, to my knowledge, nothing's happened in the 10 minutes since I last said it to change my mind...

You claimed one poster was right on the money when he said there is zero percent chance. Plus, if you think there is a 1% chance, then why not just say that instead of complaining that i started a thread asking people what they thought about the chances of Lynch going to GB?

 

[Statler & Waldorf]

The worst part is that now if there ever is a credible report that Green Bay management is considering making a move for Marshawn Lynch, it'll probably get buried here in one of these threads full of baseless speculation where I'll never see it. Instead of getting a thread titled "Report: Green Bay considering making a move for Lynch", we get a thread titled "Here's a whacky idea I just had!" that has a post titled "Report: Green Bay considering making a move for Lynch" buried somewhere on page 4 amidst all of the "What would YOU do if you were Ted Thompson?" posts.

Funny you should say that. Check post #99 by BallparkFrank. I don't know how credible the billsbeat.com is, but that caught my attention.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

He was? This is not a place for talking/debating/pontificating about the NFL?

Perhaps it's just me, but I'd really like it if the rampant speculation in the Pool was a little less rampant and a little less speculative. You know, a little more based on actual information.

Fair enough, but I suspect "The guys" have no problem with threads discussing hypothetical scenarios. It's part of sports. If you don't want to partake, then why participate in the discussion at all? Plenty of times I'll click into a thread read half of the first post, and think "Blah, don't care... Back"

 

[GoNads]

No new news to be sure, but just adding a bit of fuel to the fire (specially for the hopeful ones)...

From NFL.com

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Interesting comments from Bob McGinn this morning (the best Packers beat writer - has excellent NFL connections). Its subscription stuff, but here is the summary:

Sources say the Bills have heard from the Packers several times dating to before the draft, most recently about two weeks ago. But on each occasion the Bills have closed the door on the Packers' exploratory efforts, long before anything substantive might have taken place.Through his assistants, Bills general manager Buddy Nix has informed the Packers he's keeping Lynch. The Packers can't even get to first base.

 

[Cassius]

Still 0%. HTH.

 

[gehazi]

I think it's highly unlikely they try to get Lynch or McGahee. I don't recall any past teams with Superbowl aspirations, going after a new starting RB when their starter goes down. The Packers were fine with going with Grant, so they are fine with passing being their strong point.some examples of teams with Superbowl expectations where the RB went down:2005 Packers: A. Green hurt and Gado & Fisher are used.2004 Panthers: S. Davis hurt and Goings, Hoover and Foster fill in.2001 Colts: E. James hurt and D. Rhodes takes over.1999 Broncos: T. Davis hurt and Olandis Gary steps in.1999 Falcons: Jamal Anderson hurt and Oxendine and Hanspard carry the load.And these teams above were more dependent of their backs than the current Packer team is on Grant. Superbowl caliber teams trust their backups to carry the load when a starter goes down, even though all these teams didn't do well without their stud RB. But Grant wasn't relied on to be as big a part of the offense as the backs mentioned above.

And what did Green Bay do when Jackson was hurt as a rookie and their backs looked poor? Oh ya, they MADE A TRADE for R. Grant. Doesn't anyone else think it's a bit odd that when asked about trading Lynch, Chan Gailey singled out GB directly as a team that "wishes they had one more (RB) than they had" ? It wasn't a generalized comment, but one directed straight at the team most in need of Lynch. Now they have to go play GB? Obviously there was no way on earth Lynch was going to be traded to the Pack right before the Bills have to play them. And I admit, I can see Lynch rotting away in Buffalo as a likely possibility. But in this case a trade really does make a ton of sense.

 

[djmich]

For those who are this upset by this thread, why click on it? I clearly stated it was my thought, and never said it was an actual rumor.It has nothing to do with fantasy football either. The Packers asked about Lynch during the offseason, and i simply started a thread asking if anyone thought the Packers would consider contacting the Bills about Lynch now that Grant is out for the season.The only thing making this thread 4 pages of crap is your complaing about how much you hate a thread you keep posting in.

Agreed. No harm in speculating, debating and wondering about the what ifs. I stashed Lynch on my bench just for a possibility such as this one and have enjoyed reading through people's opinions and theories FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. This is a big part of the fun of FFL folks. None of us know anything for sure, so speculation land is where we all live in.Pretty silly is a post complaining that people have arbitrary positions on the first line, which also states a radical and arbitrary position of 0% chance on the second line.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

And what did Green Bay do when Jackson was hurt as a rookie and their backs looked poor? Oh ya, they MADE A TRADE for R. Grant. Doesn't anyone else think it's a bit odd that when asked about trading Lynch, Chan Gailey singled out GB directly as a team that "wishes they had one more (RB) than they had" ? It wasn't a generalized comment, but one directed straight at the team most in need of Lynch. Now they have to go play GB? Obviously there was no way on earth Lynch was going to be traded to the Pack right before the Bills have to play them. And I admit, I can see Lynch rotting away in Buffalo as a likely possibility. But in this case a trade really does make a ton of sense.

I thought Green Bay traded for Ryan Grant that year right before final camp cuts, because Grant was otherwise on the chopping block in NY. I don't remember it being because Jackson was hurt.

 

[identikit]

And what did Green Bay do when Jackson was hurt as a rookie and their backs looked poor? Oh ya, they MADE A TRADE for R. Grant. Doesn't anyone else think it's a bit odd that when asked about trading Lynch, Chan Gailey singled out GB directly as a team that "wishes they had one more (RB) than they had" ? It wasn't a generalized comment, but one directed straight at the team most in need of Lynch. Now they have to go play GB? Obviously there was no way on earth Lynch was going to be traded to the Pack right before the Bills have to play them. And I admit, I can see Lynch rotting away in Buffalo as a likely possibility. But in this case a trade really does make a ton of sense.

I thought Green Bay traded for Ryan Grant that year right before final camp cuts, because Grant was otherwise on the chopping block in NY. I don't remember it being because Jackson was hurt.

Yep.from Wiki:

Grant was traded to the Packers on September 1, 2007 in exchange for a future sixth-round draft pick,and he played as the third-string running back behind Brandon Jackson and DeShawn Wynn for the first six games of the season.

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ETA: Looks like Jackson was a DNP from week 4-week 8 in 2007.

 

[Joe Summer]

Shark move for Buffalo:

1. start Lynch at RB today. Give him the ball at least 25 times.

2. on defense, put 8 guys in the box and shut down Brandon Jackson.

3. wait for Green Bay to offer a high draft pick on Monday morning.

 

[identikit]

per Chris Mortensen:

Packers & Bills could revisit on Marshawn Lynch after they play; Bills wants a starter, plus a draft pick. AJ Hawk but covet a starting OL

Packers were ready to take Lynch w 16th pick in '07 but Bills took him @ 12. Pack used 2nd rd pick on Brandon Jackson, who starts today.

League football people think Packers GM Ted Thompson will be relucant; Bills won't give away Lynch. Ravens trying to peddle McGahee.

 

[gary mexico]

per Chris Mortensen:

Packers & Bills could revisit on Marshawn Lynch after they play; Bills wants a starter, plus a draft pick. AJ Hawk but covet a starting OL

LMAO Good luck with that. Bills are way too greedy with Lynch. I still dont think he goes anywhere...

 

[basher]

per Chris Mortensen:

Packers & Bills could revisit on Marshawn Lynch after they play; Bills wants a starter, plus a draft pick. AJ Hawk but covet a starting OL

LMAO Good luck with that. Bills are way too greedy with Lynch. I still dont think he goes anywhere...

hahaha good luck with that. NOBODY will pay that much for a running back anymore, unless they are truly a special player. Hawk by himself maybe.

 

[kface]

per Chris Mortensen:

Packers & Bills could revisit on Marshawn Lynch after they play; Bills wants a starter, plus a draft pick. AJ Hawk but covet a starting OL

LMAO Good luck with that. Bills are way too greedy with Lynch. I still dont think he goes anywhere...

hahaha good luck with that. NOBODY will pay that much for a running back anymore, unless they are truly a special player. Hawk by himself maybe.

I could see maybe hawk and a 4th or 5th.GB is on the brink this year and they know it. They need a good hard running back to keep them at the top and maybe even put them over the top

 

[Pipes]

per Chris Mortensen:

Packers & Bills could revisit on Marshawn Lynch after they play; Bills wants a starter, plus a draft pick. AJ Hawk but covet a starting OL

LMAO Good luck with that. Bills are way too greedy with Lynch. I still dont think he goes anywhere...

hahaha good luck with that. NOBODY will pay that much for a running back anymore, unless they are truly a special player. Hawk by himself maybe.

I agree that is too much to ask for Lynch however I think you're overvaluing Hawk. He's a mediocre LB with a terrible contract so I don't think the Bills really want him.

 

[Go deep]

Rumors are swirling, there is going to be some people in this thread who might look awfully silly, if they already dont.

 

[pantherclub]

Jackson looked awful today. Really jittery and unsure. I could see the Packers paying whatever for Lynch.

 

[Go deep]

The simple fact is, whether FANTASY OWNERS are content with Brandon Jackson carrying the rock, Green Bay's top brass is obviously content with Jackson carrying the rock, since they entered the season with only 2 RBs on their roster. I think everyone scrambling to find some way for Green Bay to trade for an RB they might like is missing the fact that Green Bay already has an RB they like.

You sure about this?

 

[Go deep]

Does anyone think it was a coincidence that Lynch played as much as he did yesterday against the Packers? The Bills may be saying they wont trade him, but their actions yesterday said otherwise.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Does anyone think it was a coincidence that Lynch played as much as he did yesterday against the Packers? The Bills may be saying they wont trade him, but their actions yesterday said otherwise.

It does seem to be way too big of a coincidence that they finally decide to feature Marshawn Lynch the week they play the team that needs him the most.

 

[steelwind]

They are dangling Lynch in front GB Packer's face. Obviously Buffalo wants a 1st round pick. Buffalo GM has put up a sign that says "Come and get it"

 

[basher]

per Chris Mortensen:

Packers & Bills could revisit on Marshawn Lynch after they play; Bills wants a starter, plus a draft pick. AJ Hawk but covet a starting OL

LMAO Good luck with that. Bills are way too greedy with Lynch. I still dont think he goes anywhere...

hahaha good luck with that. NOBODY will pay that much for a running back anymore, unless they are truly a special player. Hawk by himself maybe.

I agree that is too much to ask for Lynch however I think you're overvaluing Hawk. He's a mediocre LB with a terrible contract so I don't think the Bills really want him.

I don't even like Hawk. Point is Ted Thompson will not pay that much for a running back. The guy is downright frugal and there is no way the Packers will give a whole lot up.

 

[steelwind]

per Chris Mortensen:

Packers & Bills could revisit on Marshawn Lynch after they play; Bills wants a starter, plus a draft pick. AJ Hawk but covet a starting OL

LMAO Good luck with that. Bills are way too greedy with Lynch. I still dont think he goes anywhere...

hahaha good luck with that. NOBODY will pay that much for a running back anymore, unless they are truly a special player. Hawk by himself maybe.

I agree that is too much to ask for Lynch however I think you're overvaluing Hawk. He's a mediocre LB with a terrible contract so I don't think the Bills really want him.

I don't even like Hawk. Point is Ted Thompson will not pay that much for a running back. The guy is downright frugal and there is no way the Packers will give a whole lot up.

"Pay" as in draft picks or "pay" as in millions of dollars?

 

[DLR]

Grant went down for me. I didn't want to pay what the going rate for BJ was on auction cause I know he's a turd. My consolation to aid my thin thin RB corps now is Lynch. Even though I picked him up and currently am holding him I feel that there is about a 1% something happens. Sadly though there is nothing in free agency worth more than that 1% chance at the moment so I am just gonna hold him til there is.

I agree with what the majority of everyone else sees here. Unless the world gets turned upside down TT has BJ, Kuhn, and Nance to play around with for the rest of the year and worst case scenario will raid a practice squad player or wait on Starks. The next most likely scenario is for him to trade a very low draft pick for a deep back up ala Grant. I think there is a 95% chance one of or a combination of both those scenarios is what happens. And even if it doesn't then there are other options outside of Lynch - Jacobs, McGahee, etc... that further crowds the unlikely scenario of him trading a higher draft pick for a name.

So as much as I would like to see Lynch move I think I have a better chance of going down to the gas station and winning the powerball.

 

[Judge Smails]

Dunno. Outta left field. Lynch sure looked showcased to me. They drafted Spiller as the first back overall. Not going anywhere this year. It makes all the sense in the world to deal Lynch.

 

[basher]

I don't even like Hawk. Point is Ted Thompson will not pay that much for a running back. The guy is downright frugal and there is no way the Packers will give a whole lot up.

"Pay" as in draft picks or "pay" as in millions of dollars?

Well both. TT has "paid" one external source player big in his packer existence ... Charles Woodson Also, he has shown over, and over, and over that he refuses to give up fourth round (Asking price by Oakland for Moss who also wanted to be in WI) and better picks. He gives big contracts to his own players and he likes to select his own players young. It is the way it has been and the way it will be for his tenure in GB. Now if Buffalo is willing to deal Marshawn as a bargain, TT would be all over because he is a bargain shopper (Pickett, Chillar, Grant, and I suppose Woodson can be considered a bargain since he was an elite corner at a discount price) ... Not to say that he wouldn't part with a draft pick but it would have to be a hell of a deal to make him move ... and Buff is smart enough to know that Marshawn isn't just a throwaway player even if they want to move on. Lynch would be great in a GB uni but the front offices are not two that I think will be able to work a deal that works for both.

 

[sho nuff]

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I don't even like Hawk. Point is Ted Thompson will not pay that much for a running back. The guy is downright frugal and there is no way the Packers will give a whole lot up.

"Pay" as in draft picks or "pay" as in millions of dollars?

Well both. TT has "paid" one external source player big in his packer existence ... Charles Woodson Also, he has shown over, and over, and over that he refuses to give up fourth round (Asking price by Oakland for Moss who also wanted to be in WI) and better picks. He gives big contracts to his own players and he likes to select his own players young. It is the way it has been and the way it will be for his tenure in GB. Now if Buffalo is willing to deal Marshawn as a bargain, TT would be all over because he is a bargain shopper (Pickett, Chillar, Grant, and I suppose Woodson can be considered a bargain since he was an elite corner at a discount price) ... Not to say that he wouldn't part with a draft pick but it would have to be a hell of a deal to make him move ... and Buff is smart enough to know that Marshawn isn't just a throwaway player even if they want to move on. Lynch would be great in a GB uni but the front offices are not two that I think will be able to work a deal that works for both.

Picket was not cheap.And he did offer a 4th I believe. Moss balked at the length of the contract and later stated by them talking about behavior and what was expected of him that he ended up not wanting to come to GB anyway.