ignatiusjreilly said:
Just so I'm clear, the principle you're articulating is that it's always bad for private employers to punish employees for the content of their speech?
Generally, yeah.
To take an extreme example, if Trump's 2024 campaign manager expressed his opinion that January 6 was an attempt to overthrow our democracy (or vice versa with Biden's campaign manager), it would be troubling for them to lose their jobs over having the "wrong opinions"?
No. "Agreeing with the candidate" is a bona fide job qualification for people who work on political campaigns. It would be fine to fire somebody in this example.
Similarly, it would be fine for a church to fire a pastor who preached that Jesus's body lies buried in an undiscovered tomb somewhere. Certain jobs require espousing particular views. That's fine. Those jobs are also fairly uncommon.
(While I think it would be okay to fire a pastor who denied the resurrection, it would
not be okay to fire the exact same pastor for arguing against the use of the Tampa-2 defense. On a closely-related note, I would be totally okay with firing a defensive coordinator who espoused the wrong opinions about defensive coverages, but not okay with firing that exact same DC over his political opinions. It needs to be clearly and unambiguously job-related for this exception to apply.)
What if JDR had gone much further and expressed open admiration for Hitler or Stalin or John Tesh?
I honestly don't care, but I'll concede that "Hitler was a pretty swell guy" lies so far outside the mainstream that I would have a hard time faulting an employer for stepping in here. I grant that that's a problematic edge case.
The thing that Del Rio said is comparatively unobjectionable though. He's wrong, but he's wrong within completely normal parameters.
I suspect you don't believe those extreme examples, and what you're really saying is that, while you think his comments were dumb, you don't think they were so far beyond the pale that they deserve to be punished based on content alone. (To take an example at the other extreme, if Del Rio were fined simply for saying he voted for Trump, I would certainly agree that would be taking things way too far).
But ultimately, when you say that you're basically conceding its a judgment call on Rivera's part. He felt that, for whatever reasons, the comments deserved some sort of punishment (another reminder that none of us knows the backstory behind Del Rio's comments; there may be other factors Rivera took into consideration.) You are certainly free to disagree with the call he made, but I don't see how you can question whether he has the right to make it.
Oh, this is where you were going. Yeah I definitely agree that it was Del Rio's call to make and I don't question his right to make it. I'm saying he made the wrong call and should be criticized appropriately.