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Haha.
If it was racially motivated at all, it was wrong.
Sure we all can have opinions and make our own choices. The fact still remains the Confederate Flag represented an army that declared war on our country to protect human slavery. If someone wants to wave that around, how else do they expect people to take it? I know people from the South take a lot of pride being from the South- and just as importantly, not being from the North. I also get identity is important. The Confederate flag looks cool and has become a convenient way to express a love of the South. Maybe they should make a new flag for the South? One that isn't the flag of the people who tried to protect human slavery. Then the millions of their Black Southern neighbors could feel included and more welcome in that Southern pride.
Well, we gonna see how it plays out. I'm interested, myself.
Isn't every law passed, person elected and court decision basically decided by opinions?
I posted an article from a guy who's family owned slaves is against it. Also probably one of the most famous racers ever the same
I guess. Not sure where you're going with this.
Yeah, lots of dynamics.
Thanks. Appreciate it.
Haha. Good one.
You don’t get to have it both ways. Kaepernick was reviled by millions of people for expressing himself, leading to a boycott of the NFL which many claim resulted in a precipitous drop in ratings and millions upon millions in lost revenues. Brees getting flamed for expressing himself was tame by comparison.
Huh?
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That's so bad of a take. Classic, LOL.
Ok. That's fine.
No one is stopping Brees from standing on his views, or stating them. He's being criticized for it, just like Kaep was.
We're letting players express themselves & act on it (by kneeling). That's called tolerance.
Right. We are allowing players to kneel, and tons of people are criticizing them for it. Brees is free to express his opinion, but tons of people will criticize him for it.
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Were you vocally defending Kaep against all the backlash he received back when he lost his career and people were boycotting the NFL? Or is this a newfound position you are advocating?
My understanding is that an ex-Green Beret was the one who told Kaep to kneel and that it was a way to show respect but acknowledge that a larger discussion needed to take place.
I've heard that, too, but honestly, he probably should've got more opinions.
He had been talking and sitting for awhile and got no attention.
Come on. There was no tolerance given to Brees. Yet, the protestors are receiving tolerance.
Honestly, I'm not the right person to speak on it, really.
Kneeling was actually banned. Owners threatened to release players who kneeled.
You keep using words like “curbstomp.” Are you referring to criticism? If so, that’s called speech. And I’m generally in favor of free speech.
I don't remember that, but having a pro-flag opinion is taboo now. So, so wrong.
You're not thinking about what would happen to white players who would come out pro-flag.
What do you mean by “come out pro-flag”? Do you mean making a public statement that Black players who kneel during the national anthem are disrespecting the flag and our country? Yeah, they’re going to be criticized by a whole bunch of people if they make that statement. But it sure seems odd to complain about being criticized for making a statement that itself is a criticism of others.
I have a pro-flag opinion. It’s not the least bit taboo. I just flew a flag at my house for Memorial Day. Right out in the open, and not one person said or did anything to me. I’ve stood with my hand over my heart at every single event I’ve attended where the national Anthem is performed. No problems whatsoever. Not taboo in the least.
We're going around in circles, dude.
Real quick, I'm referring to pro-flag in regards to the pre-game ceremony. It's most certainly taboo by BLM's standards.
Here is the disconnect: we are all pro American flag here. We believe it can stand as a symbol for freedom and equality for everyone who wants it. That ideal has not yet been reached, and it is mainly due to racist/sexist attitudes, though there are likely a few other reasons as well. My point is, if the flag is supposed to stand for what I stated above, how is protesting(which is literally part of how our nation got started, keep that in mind) in efforts to bring that vision to pass, a bad thing? It isn't.
Well let me put a fine point on it, and this doesn’t really apply to you, but it does to all the other people I know who fall into this category. It seems a bit laughable to me for folks to argue that we should all be polite and tolerant of Drew Brees and the expression of his opinions when those same folks were raking Kaepernick and others over the coals, calling for them to be released, and boycotting the NFL. It’s like punching someone in the face and then immediately calling “truce!”
After talking to his teammates Brees realized he had the wrong take on kneeling, in particular, not understanding what it was really about.
How do you know? Have you spoken to them? Is it on an official website of some type? Because if it isn't, all you're doing is posting speculation and hearsay.
It's all over the news, my friend.
We can either have an honest discussion or we can't. I thought this was a place we could get real. When you deny the intolerance of BLM surrounding the flag/anthem during pre-game ceremony, it's no longer honest.
