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Clutch fans board is the best, the best! Eruption going on this morning wherein a petition to fire Morey is being "circulated" because he is going to take the Boston deal (he is?) instead of trading for Kevin love or Paul millsap.

:lmao:

 
pizzatyme said:
Nice job by the refs taking Hibbert out if the game tonight. #3 on the way if this is the way it's going to be. Good grief.
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Indiana fans need to knock if off with this ref whining. Hibbert's "verticality" is the current version of Garnett's moving screens. He's taking advantage of reputation and a difficult judgment call to commit probably several uncalled fouls every game. Here's a breakdown of it. If you watch you know Hibbert tilts his arms ntoward the shooter all the time and often gets the benefit of the doubt. If a team had confidence that the play would be called properly they could jump into his outstretched, tilted arms and foul him out at will.

ETA: I'd also probably skip the LeFlop thing, assuming you saw how George reacted when Wade grazed his forehead on a defensive rebound (I think in the second quarter). They showed it in super slo-mo a couple times because it was so funny.

 
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Yes, Paul George flops like LeBron. :lol:

LeBron mugged George all night. No fouls in the 2nd half.

It was home cooking at its finest.

And when Crawford is staring at LeBron's foot nearly 2/3 out of bounds and swallows the whistle, what says you?

 
TobiasFunke said:
pizzatyme said:
Nice job by the refs taking Hibbert out if the game tonight. #3 on the way if this is the way it's going to be. Good grief.
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Indiana fans need to knock if off with this ref whining. Hibbert's "verticality" is the current version of Garnett's moving screens. He's taking advantage of reputation and a difficult judgment call to commit probably several uncalled fouls every game. Here's a breakdown of it. If you watch you know Hibbert tilts his arms ntoward the shooter all the time and often gets the benefit of the doubt. If a team had confidence that the play would be called properly they could jump into his outstretched, tilted arms and foul him out at will.

ETA: I'd also probably skip the LeFlop thing, assuming you saw how George reacted when Wade grazed his forehead on a defensive rebound (I think in the second quarter). They showed it in super slo-mo a couple times because it was so funny.
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:goodposting:

 
pizzatyme said:
Yes, Paul George flops like LeBron. :lol:

LeBron mugged George all night. No fouls in the 2nd half.

It was home cooking at its finest.

And when Crawford is staring at LeBron's foot nearly 2/3 out of bounds and swallows the whistle, what says you?
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pizzatyme said:
Yes, Paul George flops like LeBron. :lol:

LeBron mugged George all night. No fouls in the 2nd half.

It was home cooking at its finest.

And when Crawford is staring at LeBron's foot nearly 2/3 out of bounds and swallows the whistle, what says you?
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:rolleyes:

Refs miss calls both ways in every game. And sure, LeBron gets the benefit of the doubt sometimes from the refs. So does Wade. So does George. So does Hibbert.

I get that the fates have not been kind to Indiana when they've had great teams. First they were stuck behind Jordan's Bulls, and now they're stuck behind (at least for the moment) James' Heat. I'm sure that totally sucks on nights like last night. But your guys get calls too- and as I pointed out before, it's possible that there isn't a single player in the league that gets more reputation calls than Hibbert with his legendary "verticality".

 
That $15 million salary next year has to hurt Asik's value. I know it's only an $8 million cap hit but that extra $7 million matters to a lot of teams. In fact, after every paycheck for the rest of the season, the cost of Asik per game goes up.

 
Notorious T.R.E. said:
#### me. I have that turd Asik on my bench in my weekly H2H leeg. It's 2 points per rebound!
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TURDTACULAR.

Philly balked at Hawes and a 1st as well. I guess as the season progresses other teams will start to make some sense. Maybe Atlanta starts to sputter and Millsap becomes available. The bigger problem is that Asik really only makes sense for a handful of Western Conference teams ahead/around them in the standings.

 
Juxtatarot said:
That $15 million salary next year has to hurt Asik's value. I know it's only an $8 million cap hit but that extra $7 million matters to a lot of teams. In fact, after every paycheck for the rest of the season, the cost of Asik per game goes up.
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Wouldnt someone like the Lakers be more willing to take on a player like Asik? They can afford the real salary dollars because they are an extremely well-off franchise and the fact it only counts 8 mil against the cap would let them add a player without getting into as much of a luxury tax issue next year.

What if they did something like Lin and Asik for Gasol? The Rockets would get a PF that can play away from the basket and the Lakers, while paying out serious money next year, wouldnt be on the hook cap-wise for all of it. They would add a player in Lin who would definitely draw fans. Asik can start at center and rebound and play defense.

While it works in the Trade Machine, I am sure it probably isnt a great trade. I am just a casual NBA fan and thought I would throw it out there.

 
SoCalBroncoFan said:
Juxtatarot said:
That $15 million salary next year has to hurt Asik's value. I know it's only an $8 million cap hit but that extra $7 million matters to a lot of teams. In fact, after every paycheck for the rest of the season, the cost of Asik per game goes up.
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Wouldnt someone like the Lakers be more willing to take on a player like Asik? They can afford the real salary dollars because they are an extremely well-off franchise and the fact it only counts 8 mil against the cap would let them add a player without getting into as much of a luxury tax issue next year.

What if they did something like Lin and Asik for Gasol? The Rockets would get a PF that can play away from the basket and the Lakers, while paying out serious money next year, wouldnt be on the hook cap-wise for all of it. They would add a player in Lin who would definitely draw fans. Asik can start at center and rebound and play defense.

While it works in the Trade Machine, I am sure it probably isnt a great trade. I am just a casual NBA fan and thought I would throw it out there.
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No way Houston wants to reunite the failed Howard/Pau partnership.

 
Sammy3469 said:
SoCalBroncoFan said:
Juxtatarot said:
That $15 million salary next year has to hurt Asik's value. I know it's only an $8 million cap hit but that extra $7 million matters to a lot of teams. In fact, after every paycheck for the rest of the season, the cost of Asik per game goes up.
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Wouldnt someone like the Lakers be more willing to take on a player like Asik? They can afford the real salary dollars because they are an extremely well-off franchise and the fact it only counts 8 mil against the cap would let them add a player without getting into as much of a luxury tax issue next year.

What if they did something like Lin and Asik for Gasol? The Rockets would get a PF that can play away from the basket and the Lakers, while paying out serious money next year, wouldnt be on the hook cap-wise for all of it. They would add a player in Lin who would definitely draw fans. Asik can start at center and rebound and play defense.

While it works in the Trade Machine, I am sure it probably isnt a great trade. I am just a casual NBA fan and thought I would throw it out there.
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No way Houston wants to reunite the failed Howard/Pau partnership.
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Not even to get out from under the 30 million owed to Lin and Asik next year?

 
Cliff Clavin said:
Great work on that contract extension :thumbup:
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You know, listening to one of the Simmons podcasts, I think I've actually come around to thinking that contract wasn't a complete disaster. A mild disaster, but not a complete one.

If you look at it from the view that they are just punting the next 3 seasons because they can't get LeBron and won't get Carmelo. May as well just give Kobe his legacy pay, sell a few tickets while Kobe chases the scoring title, and wait for Durant/Love class to come around.

It's not like they were going to win anything in that time anyway.

 
pollardsvision said:
Cliff Clavin said:
Great work on that contract extension :thumbup:
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You know, listening to one of the Simmons podcasts, I think I've actually come around to thinking that contract wasn't a complete disaster. A mild disaster, but not a complete one.

If you look at it from the view that they are just punting the next 3 seasons because they can't get LeBron and won't get Carmelo. May as well just give Kobe his legacy pay, sell a few tickets while Kobe chases the scoring title, and wait for Durant/Love class to come around.

It's not like they were going to win anything in that time anyway.
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Basketball wise, it is an abomination. I don't see how anyone can justify it otherwise. I really don't care if it puts a few more sheckles in the Buss' pockets.

And that they give it to him before he was back. Terrible.

 
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Cliff Clavin said:
pollardsvision said:
Cliff Clavin said:
Great work on that contract extension :thumbup:
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You know, listening to one of the Simmons podcasts, I think I've actually come around to thinking that contract wasn't a complete disaster. A mild disaster, but not a complete one.

If you look at it from the view that they are just punting the next 3 seasons because they can't get LeBron and won't get Carmelo. May as well just give Kobe his legacy pay, sell a few tickets while Kobe chases the scoring title, and wait for Durant/Love class to come around.

It's not like they were going to win anything in that time anyway.
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Basketball wise, it is an abomination. I don't see how anyone can justify it otherwise. I really don't care if it puts a few more sheckles in the Buss' pockets.

And that they give it to him before he was back. Terrible.
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Oh, I agree.

And really, I'm pretty much just complimenting them for tanking the next 3 years, so yeah, it's not a sensible basketball move.

Just saying they'll likely be better after these 3 miserable years going the "let's pay Kobe and suck" route than the "let's give out a bunch of contracts to mediocre players to fight for the 5-seed, or worse, sign Melo" route.

I'm rooting for them to give out a bunch of long contracts, hopefully Melo, and still suck really bad, but maybe their stupidity here might've saved them.

 
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ShaHBucks said:
Slapdash said:
"Good said:
Kobe would've taken a lot less. :shrug:
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Doesn't even sound like they tried to negotiate
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Lmao my question is who exactly were they bidding against for a 35 y.o coming off of a achilles injury?
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I'd imagine with the huge TV deal they have they just can't roll out a team that nobody will watch. Before Kobe came back no one was talking Lakers even here in SoCal. Since he came back? He's been the most popular topic in this thread.

The prospect of the Lakers rolling out a team with no star-power for the next two season is a lot scarier then paying Kobe 2/50mill. Rebuild-wise? They were going to suck either way.

 
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