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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Lance Stephenson is horrible. He makes so many dumb plays.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
I'd take him running the point over Hill every single day. He's handcuffed as the offense runs through George and George doesn't drive the ball, so Stevenson is left standing around and then he tries too hard to do something when he gets his chance.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
Sweet looking play by Wall to end the half there.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
Hibbert just got a rebound.
Britney Spears
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Boxing out not allowed tonight.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
While true, that's more an indictment of Hill than any positive for Stephenson. This team needs a legit PG in the worst way.
Gritty comeback though. Fantastic game by George and Hibbert has been much better.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
And yup. Stephenson is a freaking moron.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
So Wizards.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Britney Spears
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Whines consistently more than anyone I can remember watching. Absolutely one of the most annoying players in the league. I ant think of anyone worse off the top of my head.
Max Power
Footballguy
EYLive
Footballguy
Short Corner
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
Pretty sure Griffin is one of the worst in the league about crying.... no its a fact...
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Had double digit leads in 12 of their 42 losses this year (inc postseason). Nobody craps the bed at the first sign of a comeback like the Washington #SoWizards.
This particular bed-crapping was on Wittman. He confused "their bench is awful" with "our bench is playing well." When the bench stretched it back out to 9 at the beginning of the 4th he left them in while the Pacers starters returned. By the time he realized that maybe their success was more about Turner and Scola sucking than Harrington and Webster being good it was back to even.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
You're right, you pretty much nailed it here. So silly that someone suggested that the #1 seed was clearly weaker than the #2 seed. Glad you put them in their place- pretty even sounds about right. My apologies.How is the #1 seed CLEARLY weaker than the #2 seed?
Even record head-to-head
Better conference record
Went to a game 7 last year
I'd say pretty even. But I am a
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Your team went 7 against a 38 win team and is a second-half collapse away from being all even with a 44 win team while the Heat are 6-1 against vastly superior competition. Assuming they both advance I doubt it will be a tossup. Which I guess is good news for you if you think they're even, because the sports books almost certainly will disagree.You're right, you pretty much nailed it here. So silly that someone suggested that the #1 seed was clearly weaker than the #2 seed. Glad you put them in their place- pretty even sounds about right. My apologies.How is the #1 seed CLEARLY weaker than the #2 seed?
Even record head-to-head
Better conference record
Went to a game 7 last year
I'd say pretty even. But I am a
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Abraham
Footballguy
I appreciate your enthusiasm. But no one outside of the most dedicated pacers fans think that they are "close" to the Heat.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
That's why they play the games.
What would it take in the next round for you to finally acknowledge the Pacers are "close" to the Heat?
Abraham
Footballguy
Winning four games. As Kobe said about the kings, "it's not a rivalry it they don't ever beat us."That's why they play the games.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I would be very happy if the Heat lose to Indy as I've said about 10x in here, but as someone with no pony in the race, I'm realistic - Stringing together one good series after playing mediocre at best for months, beating LJ and the Heat doesn't look probable.Winning four games. As Kobe said about the kings, "it's not a rivalry it they don't ever beat us."That's why they play the games.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Pacers, maligned as they are, do present some matchup issues for the Heat. That, more than anything, is why they're the most compelling matchup for them out of the East.
George, if he brings his A game, is the best matchup for Lebron in the league. He can't go blow for blow with Lebron on the offensive end most nights like a Durant can, but Durant isn't even in the same universe in terms of being one of the few guys who can man up against Lebron one on one without embarrassment if need be. And Hibbert, whatever you may think of his motor, is a complete matchup nightmare for Miami. If he's even close to the effort level of last year -- and as this series goes on, it appears he's rounding to that form -- the Heat have to gameplan around the acceptance of the fact that they're just going to be have no answers and Bron and Wade are going to have to outshine the Pacer perimeter despite the potentially lockdown D the Pacers are capable of bringing out there.
I still think the Heat win the thing, but those looking at the dilapidated Pacers of two weeks ago and wondering how they're going to compete are missing the picture. That team's awake now, and this year's team has proven to be capable of playing objectively better than they did last year, when they took Miami to the brink.
A Pacer win would surprise but not shock me. A heat blowout would be a far bigger surprise, IMO.
It continues to be the most compelling playoffs I can remember, and I think a lot of people are missing a nice piece of the drama because they wrote the East's #1 seed off before the playoffs began, and haven't yet realized that the wake up call seems to have come in time over there.
George, if he brings his A game, is the best matchup for Lebron in the league. He can't go blow for blow with Lebron on the offensive end most nights like a Durant can, but Durant isn't even in the same universe in terms of being one of the few guys who can man up against Lebron one on one without embarrassment if need be. And Hibbert, whatever you may think of his motor, is a complete matchup nightmare for Miami. If he's even close to the effort level of last year -- and as this series goes on, it appears he's rounding to that form -- the Heat have to gameplan around the acceptance of the fact that they're just going to be have no answers and Bron and Wade are going to have to outshine the Pacer perimeter despite the potentially lockdown D the Pacers are capable of bringing out there.
I still think the Heat win the thing, but those looking at the dilapidated Pacers of two weeks ago and wondering how they're going to compete are missing the picture. That team's awake now, and this year's team has proven to be capable of playing objectively better than they did last year, when they took Miami to the brink.
A Pacer win would surprise but not shock me. A heat blowout would be a far bigger surprise, IMO.
It continues to be the most compelling playoffs I can remember, and I think a lot of people are missing a nice piece of the drama because they wrote the East's #1 seed off before the playoffs began, and haven't yet realized that the wake up call seems to have come in time over there.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
While the Heat just got blown out by a team that finished 6 games over .500.Against two teams that combined to go .500 this season. Congrats?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
OMG, they lost a single game!!!!!!!!While the Heat just got blown out by a team that finished 6 games over .500.Against two teams that combined to go .500 this season. Congrats?
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I don't know about those matchup problems on defense. Hibbert was able to stay in the lane in 2013 because Bosh was hobbled by injury, and also frankly wasn't nearly the shooter he is now. If you thought Antic was a nightmare matchup who nullified Hibbert's defensive presence, wait until he faces the league's best midrange shooter, who also by the way is shooting 48% from three in the playoffs. I'm not sure Hibbert has the offensive skills to negate what they'll be giving up on the other end against the Heat starters.
Pacers will hang around thanks to home court but I'll say Heat in 6.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
BLOWN OUT BY THE #6 SEEDOMG, they lost a single game!!!!!!!!While the Heat just got blown out by a team that finished 6 games over .500.Against two teams that combined to go .500 this season. Congrats?
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Breaking News! Donald Sterling will be yapping on Anderson Cooper 360 tonight! 
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Just gave a like for the thread title
CurlyNight
Footballguy
No one can HONESTLY believe that Pacers will beat the Heat to win the east...........BLOWN OUT BY THE #6 SEEDOMG, they lost a single game!!!!!!!!While the Heat just got blown out by a team that finished 6games over .500.Against two teams that combined to go .500 this season. Congrats?
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I assumed the parade would be an Entertainment 720 affair.We're lining up the hay carts for the parade as we speak.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
I'm asking for forgiveness. I'm wrong, I don't know how to correct it, says Donald Sterling. Uh, correct it by selling the Clips to appease everyone!
Actually sounds like he's not going to fight, leaving it to the owners to decide it. Says he talked to Magic Johnson twice. If I said anything wrong, I'm sorry is what he said to Magic. Says he hasn't done much for minorities? eh? Or the children of LA. He has a negative view of Magic. No one knows why.
Some tidbits from tonight's interview with Anderson!
Actually sounds like he's not going to fight, leaving it to the owners to decide it. Says he talked to Magic Johnson twice. If I said anything wrong, I'm sorry is what he said to Magic. Says he hasn't done much for minorities? eh? Or the children of LA. He has a negative view of Magic. No one knows why.
Some tidbits from tonight's interview with Anderson!
tom22406
Footballguy
I know they had a meeting to discuss the issue but haven't heard much since then(about 2 weeks ago).
If anything it seems that a unified vote of 29-0 to show the owners are behind the commish and players on the issue(and it sounds as if they are).
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Might just be me, but it seems like the big uproar over it has calmed down (ie. media doesn't care anymore). I'd guess maybe the NBA will wait till everyone has moved on to something else then go back to work on it. They came off looking good with their initial action, time to let the story die down.
Todem
Footballguy
It will take years before the Clippers are not owned by someone named Sterling. The NBA lawyers know this and in due time the team will be sold. But the Association knows exactly what they are doing and how to proceed......in due time.
@Pizzatyme.
Hey man......it's o.k to keep up the good fight for your Pacers. I understand blind homerism. I have the same adoration for my Heat. Keep telling yourself you guys have a punchers chance.....because...you do. But it's a punchers chance. The Heat are by far the more talented and better team built to win titles. It will show itself in a 7 game series like it has the last 2 years.
Look forward to a well fought series in a week. Talk then.
@Pizzatyme.
Hey man......it's o.k to keep up the good fight for your Pacers. I understand blind homerism. I have the same adoration for my Heat. Keep telling yourself you guys have a punchers chance.....because...you do. But it's a punchers chance. The Heat are by far the more talented and better team built to win titles. It will show itself in a 7 game series like it has the last 2 years.
Look forward to a well fought series in a week. Talk then.
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