Walton Goggins
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Gilbert coming off worse that Bron.
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*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (5 Viewers)
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EZD222
Footballguy
I liked it. I'd still never play in Cleveland if I was a player, but that bumped them up a notch. His hearts in the organization. I could have imagined Cuban doing the same if Dirk left. I wish Dolan was this fiery.
Premier
Footballguy
The owner most definitely opened up the wallets. Not necessarily his fault the GM did a poor job.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
And one of the worst GM in the league didn't help either.
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Pat Patriot
Footballguy
What was the deal?
Mr. PadresLakers
Footballguy
They traded Beasley for nothing? 
I hear Smush Parker needs a job.
I hear Smush Parker needs a job.If the Wolves didn't pay much of anything, then
Mr. PadresLakers
Footballguy
Wolves-Heat deal, sources say, calls for 'Sota to absorb Beasley into cap space and send its 2011 second-round pick to Miami to seal deal
JMon348
Footballguy
and a right to swap a future 1st round pick, conditions not known.
A second rounder for Beasley? Sign me up. He's been a head case and a bust so far...but that's a good bet to take. The #2 overall pick from a couple years ago in exchange for a 2nd rounder who probably would have been parked over in Europe until 2013-2014, if he ever played a game in the NBA.
Celph Titled
Footballguy
Augh, you newbies. Bosh plays the 5, LeBron plays the 4. Duh.
This isn't 10 years ago. There are real centers in the league now. Bosh is gonna have trouble against them. I didn't get to see his team much as I don't watch bad teams. Did he play C in Toronto?
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Without question. In a totally free market, more than 6 teams would have been in a position to bid on Lebron, Wade, and Bosh, at least based on the current salary levels. Of course since Lebron would also probably command two or three times what the current Max salary is, you'd really only have four or five (maybe six) teams with the resources to realistically pursue him. Miami wouldn't have been able to afford all three salaries though, that's for certain.
Premier
Footballguy
I haven't seen this reported anywhere. Where are you hearing this?
Beasley for 2011 2nd rd pick and swap of future 1st rd pickIf the Wolves didn't pay much of anything, then
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Eagerly awaiting James Dolan's letter to Knicks fans using Wingdings
JMon348
Footballguy
Jewell
Footballguy
This trade has me
At that asking price the Heat GM could have sent Beasley to nearly any team in the league. He probably sent him to a basketball Siberia like the T-Wolves out of spite. And, oh yeah, enjoy that Miami to Minneapolis lifestyle change. 
JMon348
Footballguy
The team had to be under the cap, so it limited them to like 5 or 6 teams.This trade has me
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
In salary cap terms, he essentially will be.The Heat can run their salary total right up to the limit, then re-sign Wade last and because of the Bird exception they can go over the cap.As long as LeBron + Bosh + Miller + whatever other scrubs they have left < 58 million, they can then proceed to pay Wade whatever they want.
Mr. PadresLakers
Footballguy
Jewell
Footballguy
The team had to be under the cap, so it limited them to like 5 or 6 teams.This trade has me
Aaaah.... That makes it slightly less humorous. Still, I'm assuming the Heat could have picked a suitor Beasley would find more favorable.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Wonder if the Kings had a chance at him.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Blame the Knicks on JJ contract amount but he has one year left which makes him a valuable player to trade.
Galileo
Footballguy
Sour Grapes would be much more palatable than reading his column everyday in the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
Wolves wanted him...since before the draft they've been linked to him in several rumored deals.
Love the comment about sending him to Siberia too. MSP is the 13th/14th largest metro in the country...2.5 million people? It's in the 90s today and all the beautiful 20-something women in Minneapolis are out walking/jogging around Lake Harriet and Lake Calhoun in some skimpy outfits...then will head to one of about 10,000 coffee shops and restaurants to hang out before heading out to the largest arts, theatre and music scene in the United States outside of New York. But yeah...if you had a repeat of the 1908 Tunguska event happen over MSP, maybe a couple deer, a few gophers, and several thousand trees and might be killed in the process.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I wouldnt really call it sour grapes. Lebron kicked Cleveland in the nuts and then pissed all over them.I heard so many "pundits" say over the last few days that he was going back to Cleveland because there is no way he could go through this whole farce tonight if he was just going to NUKE Cleveland. Guess they were wrong.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cleveland-com-live-broadcast
Cleveland bar looking pretty slow now. Although looks like one last Cavs fan is trying to get some post James action.
Cleveland bar looking pretty slow now. Although looks like one last Cavs fan is trying to get some post James action.
Mr. PadresLakers
Footballguy
shake zula
Footballguy
And yet it is still Minnesota. In 4 months it'll be snowing and people will be hibernating, while Lebron will be crushing Latina butt night after night in a downtown oceanside condo.Wolves wanted him...since before the draft they've been linked to him in several rumored deals.
Mr. PadresLakers
Footballguy
Lakers need to hit up Gilbert for some trades while he is still raging.
Sasha and Luke for Sideshow Bob and Delonte West.
Sasha and Luke for Sideshow Bob and Delonte West.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Wow. Just wow.
drummer
Footballguy
They better have good weed in CLE.
Galileo
Footballguy
He'll be raging for a long while. Gilbert has a casino scheduled to open up in Cleveland in 2011. No LeBron = No people downtown
Jewell
Footballguy
I love Minnepolis, but I'm a middle class white guy. Here's a hint -- millionaire young black men don't want to live in a freezing cold place where there aren't too many other black people. That's just the way it is. That's why Minny, Milwaukee, and Cleveland never sign any big name free agents.And I meant the T-Wolves organization is a basketball Siberia, not Minneapolis is a Siberia. It's not like the TWolves find themselves in good times. Wait, when were their good times?Wolves wanted him...since before the draft they've been linked to him in several rumored deals.Love the comment about sending him to Siberia too.
MSP is the 13th/14th largest metro in the country...2.5 million people? It's in the 90s today and all the beautiful 20-something women in Minneapolis are out walking/jogging around Lake Harriet and Lake Calhoun in some skimpy outfits...then will head to one of about 10,000 coffee shops and restaurants to hang out before heading out to the largest arts, theatre and music scene in the United States outside of New York. But yeah...if you had a repeat of the 1908 Tunguska event happen over MSP, maybe a couple deer, a few gophers, and several thousand trees and might be killed in the process.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Me? The last time I got off the plane in Miami and got out of the airport, I felt like I had asthma trying to breathe. The air was HOT and the humidity was insane. Got to the hotel, unpacked, then headed out into the Atlantic to cool off. Or so I thought. The water was so warm in the ocean that it wasn't really refreshing at all. Then I went out with a few buddies to check out the scene and grab a bite to eat. Let's just say I was happy to not appear on the evening news by the time I got back to the hotel.South Beach was awesome! As for the rest of Miami? I told my wife I never want to go back to that ####-hole ever again in my life. Uncomfortable to breathe, dirty, expensive, and not particularly safe (at least in my own experience). It was my 3rd or 4th visit to Miami over the past 20 years, and I pray to God it will be my last.And yet it is still Minnesota. In 4 months it'll be snowing and people will be hibernating, while Lebron will be crushing Latina butt night after night in a downtown oceanside condo.
shake zula
Footballguy
Agreed. You couldn't pay me to live in Minnesota. Winters are barbaric, people are slow, pace of life is unbearable, scenery is dull, and women are beyond mediocre. Sure things are cheap but when everything else sucks you've got no choice but to give things away. I know some people hate Miami, no doubt about it. But run a poll and South Florida is aDifferent strokes for different folks, I guess. Me? The last time I got off the plane in Miami and got out of the airport, I felt like I had asthma trying to breathe. The air was HOT and the humidity was insane. Got to the hotel, unpacked, then headed out into the Atlantic to cool off. Or so I thought. The water was so warm in the ocean that it wasn't really refreshing at all. Then I went out with a few buddies to check out the scene and grab a bite to eat. Let's just say I was happy to not appear on the evening news by the time I got back to the hotel.South Beach was awesome! As for the rest of Miami? I told my wife I never want to go back to that ####-hole ever again in my life. Uncomfortable to breathe, dirty, expensive, and not particularly safe (at least in my own experience). It was my 3rd or 4th visit to Miami over the past 20 years, and I pray to God it will be my last.And yet it is still Minnesota. In 4 months it'll be snowing and people will be hibernating, while Lebron will be crushing Latina butt night after night in a downtown oceanside condo.
over Minnesota all day everyday.
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shake zula
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I'll add for w/e reason, and I've realized this while live in the midwest, people in that region are incredibly uncomfortable around diversity. Not just black people but hispanic's, indians, middle easterners...they all make midwesterners uncomfortable. They immediately confuse ethnic neighborhoods for unsafe neighborhoods.
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True 'dat. The neighborhoods where most of the millionaire athletes reside (usually in the SW Metro) are, in the immortal words of a SNL skit....ahem: "They're extremely white, they're extremely white....they walk with their buttocks extremely tight!"
The Wolves have been snake bitten ever since they "scored" Christian Laettner as the worst team in the NBA when Shaq and 'Zo went right ahead of them. They had some decent times, but then after Malik Sealy was killed after attending another player's birthday party, that left a deep scar on the franchise. Then the Wolves almost got to the promised land with KG, Sprewell and Cassell, but just weren't quite good enough. It's been HARD to be a Wolves fan all these years! However, I still remember seeing Jordan dropping 45 on my expansion team in Metrodome back on 11/8/89 (while I was in college). There's been a few good memories along the way, mixed in with all the Joe Smith's, Kevin McFail's, and Felton Spencer's/Luc Longley's/Pooh Richardson's/J.R. Rider's.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
WTF?
Wooderson
Fight The Power
The Joe Smith under the table deal was not a proud moment. Joe Smith for crying out loud.True 'dat. The neighborhoods where most of the millionaire athletes reside (usually in the SW Metro) are, in the immortal words of a SNL skit....ahem: "They're extremely white, they're extremely white....they walk with their buttocks extremely tight!"
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