simmonjm said:
No. 16 said:
Funny that you cite Randolph's per36 and then only use Amare's RPG. I showed earlier Amare is a poor rebounder for the PF spot and even worse at C. You just need to check rebounding rates.
I think Knicks fans will be disappointed with the team next season.
Felton > Duhon: No question.
Chandler = Chandler
Gallo = Gallo
Randolph > or = Harrington: Offense vs Defense. Harrington can score but is a poor rebounder and AR can rebound/defend but he's an inefficient scorer.
Amare < or = Lee: Both suck at defense. Amare is better at scoring and does so efficiently and is a poor rebounder/facilitator, David Lee is better rebounder/passer and while he is worse at scoring he can still produce decent volume with above average efficiency as well.
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Turiaf and Buike are way better than anything NYK had and if Buike is healthy I wouldn't be surprised if he pushed Chandler or Gallo for a starting spot. Turiaf is a solid man defender and shot blocker, but his rebounding is ATROCIOUS and he passes waaay too much around the rim.
They've certainly improved themselves but only marginally and they've spent a crap load of cash to do it. The only reason this team has any shot at the playoffs is because they're in the East. I actually would like this team better if they had kept David Lee over Amare because at least Randolph + Lee would give the Knicks the edge in rebounding most nights, which is more important than the extra 3 ppg/5ppg per 36/or 1 point per 100 possessions that Amare offers over Lee. I also think Amare's effort/production post contract year will be a sharper decline than Lee's.
The Knicks did not have the option of Randolph and Lee. Do you think that Amare's rebouding decline is due to his position switch from C to PF? Lee's defense was/is terrible, Amare is a huge upgrade over him in this regard as well as offensive scoring. Amare will command double teams and open up the floor for shooters such as Gallinari while Lee simply doesnt have the offensive game that requires a double team.
True they couldn't have both Randolph and Lee. Amare a HUGE upgrade in defense? He's a pretty bad defender, IMO.... just slightly better than Lee but that match up tilts in Lee's favor when you factor in rebounding. Amare is the superior offensive player no doubt, but Lee isn't too shabby either. I just don't value one dimensional players much, especially when that dimension is scoring. Amare is an elite score, but average/below average rebounder. Lee is an above average scorer and above average/elite rebounder.
Yes Amare will draw double teams and theoretically that will give Gallo and others more free 3 pointers, but guess what... Amare has averaged no more than 2 assists per game (career 1.3) with one of the best shooters ever (Nash) and other solid shooters over the years (Bell, J-Rich, Q, Joe Johnson, Frye, Dudley, Etc) so most likely those jump shooters won't see the benefits (especially since Lee averaged 3.6 last year).
Amare is a one trick pony. FOr the most part Amare has been operating at C/PF for the Suns for years without another legit bigman and it looks like his role in NYK will be much of the same. With that said AR will be the best rebounder he's played since Shaq so who knows it may help him grab a few more boards. Amare has the tools to be better in rebounding and defense at either PF or C, but his lack of commitment to that end is what kills him.