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[Cliff Clavin]

That would be gawd awful. I'm pretty sure that if somehow Murphy ended up going to Toronto, he'd be bought out right away. No room on that team for him and he is pretty much the opposite what they want in a player right now.

I don't know if he is the opposite of what they want, but he is definitely the opposite of what they should want. It would be fun as hell to watch the Raptors score 105 and give up 115 a game as an outsider.

Last two games:Boston 122 - Toronto 102Toronto 120 - Cleveland 105An old slow white guy does not fit and I doubt he'd see the floor ahead of Davis, Johnson, Dorsey, Bargnani or Evans (when he is back).

 

[Kev4029]

That would be gawd awful. I'm pretty sure that if somehow Murphy ended up going to Toronto, he'd be bought out right away. No room on that team for him and he is pretty much the opposite what they want in a player right now.

I don't know if he is the opposite of what they want, but he is definitely the opposite of what they should want. It would be fun as hell to watch the Raptors score 105 and give up 115 a game as an outsider.

Last two games:Boston 122 - Toronto 102Toronto 120 - Cleveland 105An old slow white guy does not fit and I doubt he'd see the floor ahead of Davis, Johnson, Dorsey, Bargnani or Evans (when he is back).

You're probably right, but I can dream can't I? Bargnani, Murphy and Kleiza sitting and the 3 point line and playing almost no defense would be a very unique front court.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

That would be gawd awful. I'm pretty sure that if somehow Murphy ended up going to Toronto, he'd be bought out right away. No room on that team for him and he is pretty much the opposite what they want in a player right now.

I don't know if he is the opposite of what they want, but he is definitely the opposite of what they should want. It would be fun as hell to watch the Raptors score 105 and give up 115 a game as an outsider.

Last two games:Boston 122 - Toronto 102Toronto 120 - Cleveland 105An old slow white guy does not fit and I doubt he'd see the floor ahead of Davis, Johnson, Dorsey, Bargnani or Evans (when he is back).

You're probably right, but I can dream can't I? Bargnani, Murphy and Kleiza sitting and the 3 point line and playing almost no defense would be a very unique front court.

Damn... it would almost be a white-out with Calderon at the point.

 

[timschochet]

The Lakers have won 5 out of 6 with Bynum in the starting lineup and look very clearly like the best team in basketball. I think the subtitle should be changed to reflect this.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

The Lakers have won 5 out of 6 with Bynum in the starting lineup and look very clearly like the best team in basketball. I think the subtitle should be changed to reflect this.

I think you should take another vacation.

 

[Kev4029]

That would be gawd awful. I'm pretty sure that if somehow Murphy ended up going to Toronto, he'd be bought out right away. No room on that team for him and he is pretty much the opposite what they want in a player right now.

I don't know if he is the opposite of what they want, but he is definitely the opposite of what they should want. It would be fun as hell to watch the Raptors score 105 and give up 115 a game as an outsider.

Last two games:Boston 122 - Toronto 102Toronto 120 - Cleveland 105An old slow white guy does not fit and I doubt he'd see the floor ahead of Davis, Johnson, Dorsey, Bargnani or Evans (when he is back).

You're probably right, but I can dream can't I? Bargnani, Murphy and Kleiza sitting and the 3 point line and playing almost no defense would be a very unique front court.

Damn... it would almost be a white-out with Calderon at the point.

They could have Peja in from time to time at SF and slide Kleiza to SG!!!!!!!!!!!!!Five white dudes representing 5 different countries, the racists at the UN would be so proud.

 

[Kev4029]

The Lakers have won 5 out of 6 with Bynum in the starting lineup and look very clearly like the best team in basketball. I think the subtitle should be changed to reflect this.

Other than the Heat are on one of the greatest runs in the history of the NBA, well that and the fact that Bynum should be hurting his knees again here in the next couple weeks.

 

[simmonjm]

Anthony Randolph has got to have the lowest basketball IQ of ANY NBA player at any time. He is completely lost in the rare instances when he gets playing time. He has so much potential, I think at this point his only hope is going to a team like the Cavs where he can be the go to guy and you live with his mistakes and overtime he gets confidence.

 

[Premier]

17 assists for Turkoglu tonight.

 

[Juxtatarot]

17 assists for Turkoglu tonight.

Clearly Turkoglu is best when he can play point forward. I wonder how this is going to affect Nelson and if it makes Orlando better. IIRC, Hedo was at his best last go-'round when Nelson was injured.

 

[Green94]

Bulls with a nice win last night against the C's after two horrible losses to the 76'ers and Nets. Bench played very well and Rose and Boozer carried the load.

Fun team to watch

 

[Green94]

I think you should take another vacation.

 

[Steelfan7]

here we go with the new rumor of the hour....I like this one better though for the Nets

Al Iannazzone reports exclusively that the Nets are trying to put together a three team deal that would bring the Pistons' 2004 NBA championship backcourt of Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton to New Jersey along with Carmelo Anthony. In return, the Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and two first-round picks to the Nuggets and Troy Murphy to the Pistons. Other players would have to be involved, Iannazzone reports.

"There are many more players involved to make the salaries match, but this is one of multiple things the Nets are discussing in an effort to land Anthony, reports Iannazzone. "They also are trying to trade with Denver straight up for the All-Star small forward."

Billups' contract runs through next season, but has a $3.7 million buyout. Hamilton's contract runs through 2013 but has a $9 million buyout in 2013

Billups will seek buyout if traded to NJSounds like nobody wants to play for NJ

 

[simmonjm]

Wow can you imagine a front line of David Lee and Zach Randolph for GSW? Talk about no defense.

The Warriors are interested in Tayshaun Prince and Zach Randolph, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

Prince and Randolph are two players that could fill voids for Golden State and might be available before next month's trade deadline.

Regardless, general manager Larry Riley insists that he likes the team's current roster.

"I don't like our record, but I like this team," Riley said. "I like that we have new owners who set expectations at the highest end. This is a fun place to be right now. We've got a chance to build something right here."

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/710.../#ixzz1AYeR35gH

 

[Kev4029]

here we go with the new rumor of the hour....I like this one better though for the Nets

Al Iannazzone reports exclusively that the Nets are trying to put together a three team deal that would bring the Pistons' 2004 NBA championship backcourt of Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton to New Jersey along with Carmelo Anthony. In return, the Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and two first-round picks to the Nuggets and Troy Murphy to the Pistons. Other players would have to be involved, Iannazzone reports.

"There are many more players involved to make the salaries match, but this is one of multiple things the Nets are discussing in an effort to land Anthony, reports Iannazzone. "They also are trying to trade with Denver straight up for the All-Star small forward."

Billups' contract runs through next season, but has a $3.7 million buyout. Hamilton's contract runs through 2013 but has a $9 million buyout in 2013

Billups will seek buyout if traded to NJSounds like nobody wants to play for NJ

It sounds more like Billups wants to stay in Denver, I imagine he would seek a buyout with any team in the NBA if he were traded.

 

[Kev4029]

Wow can you imagine a front line of David Lee and Zach Randolph for GSW? Talk about no defense.

The Warriors are interested in Tayshaun Prince and Zach Randolph, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

Prince and Randolph are two players that could fill voids for Golden State and might be available before next month's trade deadline.

Regardless, general manager Larry Riley insists that he likes the team's current roster.

"I don't like our record, but I like this team," Riley said. "I like that we have new owners who set expectations at the highest end. This is a fun place to be right now. We've got a chance to build something right here."

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/710.../#ixzz1AYeR35gH

Randolph would certainly make the Warriors fun to watch, I have no idea why they would be pursuing him though. We've seen what happens when you match Randolph with another big who plays no D when he was in NY.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

here we go with the new rumor of the hour....I like this one better though for the Nets

Al Iannazzone reports exclusively that the Nets are trying to put together a three team deal that would bring the Pistons' 2004 NBA championship backcourt of Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton to New Jersey along with Carmelo Anthony. In return, the Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and two first-round picks to the Nuggets and Troy Murphy to the Pistons. Other players would have to be involved, Iannazzone reports.

"There are many more players involved to make the salaries match, but this is one of multiple things the Nets are discussing in an effort to land Anthony, reports Iannazzone. "They also are trying to trade with Denver straight up for the All-Star small forward."

Billups' contract runs through next season, but has a $3.7 million buyout. Hamilton's contract runs through 2013 but has a $9 million buyout in 2013

Billups will seek buyout if traded to NJSounds like nobody wants to play for NJ

Maybe he just doesn't want to play with Melo anymore.

 

[simmonjm]

ESPN has put together his first trimester NBA awards:

East MVP: Amare

West MVP: Dirk

Coach: Spoelstra

ROY: Blake Griffin

MIP: Wesley Mathews

DPOY: Tyson Chandler

6th Man: George Hill

thoughts?

 

[Kev4029]

ESPN has put together his first trimester NBA awards:East MVP: AmareWest MVP: DirkCoach: SpoelstraROY: Blake GriffinMIP: Wesley MathewsDPOY: Tyson Chandler6th Man: George Hillthoughts?

Thats a terrible job by the ESPN staff. Here would be my picks:E MVP: Lebron (I like my MVPs to do at least one thing other than score)W MVP: Paul, but I could buy Dirk for MVPCoach: Either D'Antoni or Carlisle (Spoelstra has the most talent in the NBA, they should be doing really well)ROY: Griffin in probably the biggest landslide since I've been aliveMIP: Ray Felton or Paul MillsapDPOY: Dwight Howard6th Man: Ty Thomas or Thaddeus Young

 

[simmonjm]

Sounds like Melo trade to NJ might be happening sooner than later, Detroit will be making out like a bandit on this deal cutting away Rip's deal for some expirings.

One source said "tonight or tomorrow." Some things still need to be worked out, but it's picking up steam. http://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/24222389629882368#

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6005596

The New Jersey Nets' attempts to acquire Denver's Carmelo Anthony are "further along" than any trade scenario that has been discussed since their near-acquisition of Anthony in late September, according to sources close to the negotiations.

A three-team deal involving the Detroit Pistons that would include at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed as soon as this week, sources said.

The primary elements of the scenario currently on the table, sources said, call for New Jersey to acquire Anthony, Billups and Hamilton; Denver to land Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow and at least two first-round picks; and Detroit to acquire Troy Murphy and Johan Petro.

Other players with smaller contracts would have to be included to make the salary-cap math work.

 

[Kiddnets]

yep...seems like smoke is turning into fire...could be a done deal soon...mixed emotions - really like Favors but the team as currently constituted has stunk it up. Lopez has regressed....cant argue with blowing it up. At least the Nets will be fun to watch again although I dont see this team challenging in the East at all without landing Paul (which from what I hear is the plan as they have the in with his agent but hes not a FA until 2012.)

Sports writers around the Internet are tweeting that the Nets appear to be making encouraging progress on a proposed three-day deal that would bring Carmelo Anthony and send more than half the current roster to Denver and Detroit. So much so, Chris Broussard and Chad Ford report, that a meeting between 'Melo and Mikhail Prokhorov may not be necessary to persuade the three-time all-Star to sign an extension.

In the most definitive tweet, Al Iannazzone quoted a source saying "tonight or tomorrow" for completion of the deal, with some details still to be cleared up. Colin Stephenson put the timeline at "as soon as tomorrow night."

Broussard tweeted just after 4 p.m. that "NJ getting indications Melo's agreeable" to the extension if the deal goes down and "NJ getting indications Melo sit-down with Mikhail Prokhorov and Jay-Z may not even be necessary to convince Melo to sign w/NJ." Separately, Ford reports "From what I can gather progress on Melo deal looks encouraging but not done." Their colleague Marc Stein adds talks are "'further along' than any trade scenario that has been discussed since their near-acquisition of Anthony in late September, according to sources close to the negotiations".

Meanwhile, Adrian Wojnarowski reports "There's momentum toward getting a deal done, because Denver's ready. 'They're getting a lot of pressure from Melo's people,' executive says", adding."Nets no longer asking for Detroit 1st rounder and searching for another team to unload Petro on, sources say. Pistons want Murphy for Rip." John Schuhmann speculates on a possible destination for Petro: "Would Orlando want Petro + cash? They have a trade exception."

 

[Balco]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.

PG: Billups

SG: Hamilton

SF: Melo

PF: Humphries

C: Lopez

The front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

 

[Kiddnets]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.PG: BillupsSG: HamiltonSF: MeloPF: HumphriesC: LopezThe front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

Its better than what they have now....by a long shot. I'd prefer to keep Favors and the picks and see what happens but you cant argue that this would be a huge upgrade.

 

[simmonjm]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.PG: BillupsSG: HamiltonSF: MeloPF: HumphriesC: LopezThe front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

This trade reeks of desperation for NJ as they cannot let Melo come to NY as a FA or in a trade because they have to win and be relevant to build a fanbase when they move to Brooklyn.

 

[GOB]

Orlando is fun to watch. I don't know how they will get through the East but thus far I am completely on board with Otis Smith.

Any chance they make another move? I know they need a backup C. But with Hedo playing so well, they have some pieces to work with

 

[simmonjm]

Orlando is fun to watch. I don't know how they will get through the East but thus far I am completely on board with Otis Smith.Any chance they make another move? I know they need a backup C. But with Hedo playing so well, they have some pieces to work with

No team is trading for Hedo his contract its a liability not an asset

 

[GOB]

Orlando is fun to watch. I don't know how they will get through the East but thus far I am completely on board with Otis Smith.Any chance they make another move? I know they need a backup C. But with Hedo playing so well, they have some pieces to work with

No team is trading for Hedo his contract its a liability not an asset

I didn't say to trade Hedo, in fact, quite the opposite.

 

[No. 16]

Wow great haul for the Nuggets. You get 2 starters (Harris/Morrow) and 3 chances to get a stud player (Favors and two 1st rounders).

 

[simmonjm]

Orlando is fun to watch. I don't know how they will get through the East but thus far I am completely on board with Otis Smith.Any chance they make another move? I know they need a backup C. But with Hedo playing so well, they have some pieces to work with

No team is trading for Hedo his contract its a liability not an asset

I didn't say to trade Hedo, in fact, quite the opposite.

Gotcha, my fault.

 

[Kev4029]

Wow great haul for the Nuggets. You get 2 starters (Harris/Morrow) and 3 chances to get a stud player (Favors and two 1st rounders).

Morrow isn't a starter for a decent NBA team, hes something like a 7th or 8th guy that comes in a rains 3s. I like Morrow and I like his contract, but hes a poor defender and really doesn't offer a team enough to play more than about 20 minutes a game.

 

[Kev4029]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.PG: BillupsSG: HamiltonSF: MeloPF: HumphriesC: LopezThe front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

 

[Britney Spears]

Wow great haul for the Nuggets. You get 2 starters (Harris/Morrow) and 3 chances to get a stud player (Favors and two 1st rounders).

I'm on board with this. If true, the Nuggets have done one of the best jobs of getting compensation for a disgruntled star that I can think of.

 

[Premier]

Orlando is fun to watch. I don't know how they will get through the East but thus far I am completely on board with Otis Smith.Any chance they make another move? I know they need a backup C. But with Hedo playing so well, they have some pieces to work with

Otis was quoted in today's paper that he's done trading. I imagine they will add one 7-foot stiff. That trade looks like it was a master stroke.

 

[Kev4029]

Wow great haul for the Nuggets. You get 2 starters (Harris/Morrow) and 3 chances to get a stud player (Favors and two 1st rounders).

I'm on board with this. If true, the Nuggets have done one of the best jobs of getting compensation for a disgruntled star that I can think of.

Not sure how disgruntled Garnett was, but the Wolves got a good haul for him (at the time - doesn't look as good now).But the Nuggets have done a great job if this all works out.

 

[GOB]

Orlando is fun to watch. I don't know how they will get through the East but thus far I am completely on board with Otis Smith.Any chance they make another move? I know they need a backup C. But with Hedo playing so well, they have some pieces to work with

Otis was quoted in today's paper that he's done trading. I imagine they will add one 7-foot stiff. That trade looks like it was a master stroke.

Yes, they must add something big or else Boston will eat them alive. Of course ORL is going to live and die with Dwight regardless.Btw, I think their best lineup is:ReddickRichardsonHedoBassHowardOf course that will all change in a week.

 

[No. 16]

Wow great haul for the Nuggets. You get 2 starters (Harris/Morrow) and 3 chances to get a stud player (Favors and two 1st rounders).

Morrow isn't a starter for a decent NBA team, hes something like a 7th or 8th guy that comes in a rains 3s. I like Morrow and I like his contract, but hes a poor defender and really doesn't offer a team enough to play more than about 20 minutes a game.

I think he could start for a team like the Magic, Bulls, and Heat if you're saying he can't start for a decent NBA team. He's one of those players that he could start for the really bad teams (since they suck) and the really good teams (since they can cover up his deficiencies), but if you're middle of the pack then you would probably look for a more well rounded player. All in all, he's a rotation player/possible starter on a great contract. In the grand scheme of things Harris/Morrow are the less important parts of the proposed deal. After Favors and the first rounders, getting Harris/Morrow is just icing on the cake, IMO.

 

[Kev4029]

Wow great haul for the Nuggets. You get 2 starters (Harris/Morrow) and 3 chances to get a stud player (Favors and two 1st rounders).

Morrow isn't a starter for a decent NBA team, hes something like a 7th or 8th guy that comes in a rains 3s. I like Morrow and I like his contract, but hes a poor defender and really doesn't offer a team enough to play more than about 20 minutes a game.

I think he could start for a team like the Magic, Bulls, and Heat if you're saying he can't start for a decent NBA team. He's one of those players that he could start for the really bad teams (since they suck) and the really good teams (since they can cover up his deficiencies), but if you're middle of the pack then you would probably look for a more well rounded player. All in all, he's a rotation player/possible starter on a great contract. In the grand scheme of things Harris/Morrow are the less important parts of the proposed deal. After Favors and the first rounders, getting Harris/Morrow is just icing on the cake, IMO.

I agree, its a great deal and I really like them grabbing Morrow and Harris. I would imagine Harris would be flipped sometime in the next month for a SF, hopefully Batum.

 

[No. 16]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.

PG: Billups

SG: Hamilton

SF: Melo

PF: Humphries

C: Lopez

The front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

If Joe Dumars didn't think it would work with Rip/Billups in their prime and two big men who could actually defend, why does Russian Mark Cuban think it will now with an over the hill backcourt and Lopez/Humphries?Horrible trade for the Nets, IMO. They give away almost all of their assets to rebuild + get saddled with Melo AND Rip for the next 3 years for ~$100 million.

 

[Kev4029]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.

PG: Billups

SG: Hamilton

SF: Melo

PF: Humphries

C: Lopez

The front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

If Joe Dumars didn't think it would work with Rip/Billups in their prime and two big men who could actually defend, why does Russian Mark Cuban think it will now with an over the hill backcourt and Lopez/Humphries?Horrible trade for the Nets, IMO. They give away almost all of their assets to rebuild + get saddled with Melo AND Rip for the next 3 years for ~$100 million.

Well for one, Dumars is a moron. On top of that, a few years ago those two were the main offensive threats for the Pistons, now they are going to be no better than 3rd and 4th and can both shoot so they will open the court up for Melo and Lopez. Sure neither are what they were a few years ago, but Billups is still good enough to run an offense and score 15 ppg uber efficiently and Hamilton can still shoot the rock with the best of them.

 

[simmonjm]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.

PG: Billups

SG: Hamilton

SF: Melo

PF: Humphries

C: Lopez

The front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

If Joe Dumars didn't think it would work with Rip/Billups in their prime and two big men who could actually defend, why does Russian Mark Cuban think it will now with an over the hill backcourt and Lopez/Humphries?Horrible trade for the Nets, IMO. They give away almost all of their assets to rebuild + get saddled with Melo AND Rip for the next 3 years for ~$100 million.

As I said earlier this trade reeks of desperation for the Nets but superstars win games and fill up arenas. If Melo goes to the Nets does the balance of power shift between the East and West?

 

[Redwes25]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.

PG: Billups

SG: Hamilton

SF: Melo

PF: Humphries

C: Lopez

The front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

If Joe Dumars didn't think it would work with Rip/Billups in their prime and two big men who could actually defend, why does Russian Mark Cuban think it will now with an over the hill backcourt and Lopez/Humphries?Horrible trade for the Nets, IMO. They give away almost all of their assets to rebuild + get saddled with Melo AND Rip for the next 3 years for ~$100 million.

Saddled with Melo? Maybe not the best all around player but give me a break. His teams have been winning 50 games a year basically since he joined them.

 

[GOB]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.

PG: Billups

SG: Hamilton

SF: Melo

PF: Humphries

C: Lopez

The front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

If Joe Dumars didn't think it would work with Rip/Billups in their prime and two big men who could actually defend, why does Russian Mark Cuban think it will now with an over the hill backcourt and Lopez/Humphries?Horrible trade for the Nets, IMO. They give away almost all of their assets to rebuild + get saddled with Melo AND Rip for the next 3 years for ~$100 million.

As I said earlier this trade reeks of desperation for the Nets but superstars win games and fill up arenas. If Melo goes to the Nets does the balance of power shift between the East and West?

East>>West right now.

 

[Balco]

Wow great haul for the Nuggets. You get 2 starters (Harris/Morrow) and 3 chances to get a stud player (Favors and two 1st rounders).

Morrow isn't a starter for a decent NBA team, hes something like a 7th or 8th guy that comes in a rains 3s. I like Morrow and I like his contract, but hes a poor defender and really doesn't offer a team enough to play more than about 20 minutes a game.

I think he could start for a team like the Magic, Bulls, and Heat if you're saying he can't start for a decent NBA team. He's one of those players that he could start for the really bad teams (since they suck) and the really good teams (since they can cover up his deficiencies), but if you're middle of the pack then you would probably look for a more well rounded player. All in all, he's a rotation player/possible starter on a great contract. In the grand scheme of things Harris/Morrow are the less important parts of the proposed deal. After Favors and the first rounders, getting Harris/Morrow is just icing on the cake, IMO.

I agree, its a great deal and I really like them grabbing Morrow and Harris. I would imagine Harris would be flipped sometime in the next month for a SF, hopefully Batum.

Would be a ridiculously good trade for the Nuggets, especially if they could get Batum for Harris.This is what their near future lineup would look like. Not bad at all, and with a couple 1st rounders to work with as well.

PG: Ty Lawson

SG: Aaron Affalo

SF: Nicolas Batum

PF: Derrick Favors

C: Nene

 

[Balco]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.PG: BillupsSG: HamiltonSF: MeloPF: HumphriesC: LopezThe front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

Harrington is exactly won't they don't need. They need a guy who can rebound and defend.

 

[Balco]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.PG: BillupsSG: HamiltonSF: MeloPF: HumphriesC: LopezThe front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

Its better than what they have now....by a long shot. I'd prefer to keep Favors and the picks and see what happens but you cant argue that this would be a huge upgrade.

As a whole? With the lack of depth at the front court, the starting lineup listed above doesn't play any semblence of defense, and there is zero depth. Its an upgrade, but at what long term cost?

 

[Kev4029]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.PG: BillupsSG: HamiltonSF: MeloPF: HumphriesC: LopezThe front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

Harrington is exactly won't they don't need. They need a guy who can rebound and defend.

But their options will be very very limited with basically only sasha's expiring contract to bring in any talent in the front court, and Harrington is a pretty good player for a 6 million dollar per year big man.ETA: They could give the Nets Shelden Williams for basically free (something like a 2016 2nd rounder that is top 28 protected) because he is a minimum salary player. He defends and rebounds well enough to be in a rotation as a 4th big.

 

[biggamer3]

Nene is a FA i believe next year, Knicks fans on forums actually would prefer to add Nene to this Nucleus next year or Marc Gasol instead of unloading 3 players for Melo

 

[simmonjm]

Would be a ridiculously good trade for the Nuggets, especially if they could get Batum for Harris.This is what their near future lineup would look like. Not bad at all, and with a couple 1st rounders to work with as well.PG: Ty LawsonSG: Aaron AffaloSF: Nicolas BatumPF: Derrick FavorsC: Nene

No way the Blazers agree to deal Batum for Harris.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Nene is a FA i believe next year, Knicks fans on forums actually would prefer to add Nene to this Nucleus next year or Marc Gasol instead of unloading 3 players for Melo

ETA: and Nene has a player option next year for 11.6 which he won't be turning down.ETA: why in the hell would Memphis let Gasol go? He is a RFA next summer so unless the Knicks make a ridiculously stupid offer (which wouldn't be a shock), the Grizzlies will match. Gawd Knick fan really don't have a clue.

 

[No. 16]

But has Billups agreed to play in New Jersey. Last I heard, he wanted a buyout.

PG: Billups

SG: Hamilton

SF: Melo

PF: Humphries

C: Lopez

The front court would have zero depth. Hamilton is a shell of his former self. I just don't like it.

The Nets would probably have some front court depth comin to them. The Nuggs would look to dump Harrington and a Vujacic for Harrington deal works as long as its a 1 for 1 trade separate from the main trade.

If Joe Dumars didn't think it would work with Rip/Billups in their prime and two big men who could actually defend, why does Russian Mark Cuban think it will now with an over the hill backcourt and Lopez/Humphries?Horrible trade for the Nets, IMO. They give away almost all of their assets to rebuild + get saddled with Melo AND Rip for the next 3 years for ~$100 million.

Saddled with Melo? Maybe not the best all around player but give me a break. His teams have been winning 50 games a year basically since he joined them.

That's great that Melo has been part of 50 win team (only after Billups came aboard), but why pay all the cash and give away all those assets for a possible 50 win team that has ZERO chance of winning an NBA title. It takes at least two studs to win an NBA title and after this deal I'm not sure how else the Nets can get that 2nd stud. Looks like they may have a chance of getting CP3 down the line, which is the only way to make all this trade worth it.