*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (5 Viewers)

[Instinctive]

Mavs: I doubt we amnesty anyone this year, pending what Chandler wants. Haywood can be kept around for a year, at least.On the Chris Paul debate, if you're not going to get the money you need in New York, do you consider Dallas? At the end of this year, the following contracts go away:Jason Terry - 11.5 millionJason Kidd - 8.5 millionEither Haywood or Marion could be amnestied next year, which I think could leave an attractive spot for Chris Paul - Dirk high post, Chandler low...it seems like a team I'd pick if I was Chris Paul over the other potential FA destinations, assuming NY doesn't work out.

How far under the cap would the Mavs be in your scenario?

Disclaimer: I am NOT a capologist by any meansI think they'd be 16 million under the cap BEFORE amnestying anybody. That would leave room for Paul no? I'd think it leaves room to resign Terry if he'd come back for less money (not that I think he would).I'm assuming a 2012-2013 cap right around 60 million. Could be totally wrong on that - see disclaimer

 

[No. 16]

Paul will be dealt for Russell westbrook. This deal makes so much sense my head hurts

Westbrook --> BostonRondo --> New OrleansPaul --> Oklahoma CityObviously other pieces need to be involved, but don't all three teams get something they like in that? Assuming Paul liked playing in OKC the post-Katrina year.

If a version of this trade happens... OKC becomes THE title contender for the near future (sorry Heat fans), Boston for 1 year, and NO gets stud PG to build around.Would be nice if the Warriors can turn Curry or Ellis into either of these guys.

 

[Instinctive]

Paul will be dealt for Russell westbrook. This deal makes so much sense my head hurts

Westbrook --> BostonRondo --> New OrleansPaul --> Oklahoma CityObviously other pieces need to be involved, but don't all three teams get something they like in that? Assuming Paul liked playing in OKC the post-Katrina year.

If a version of this trade happens... OKC becomes THE title contender for the near future (sorry Heat fans), Boston for 1 year, and NO gets stud PG to build around.Would be nice if the Warriors can turn Curry or Ellis into either of these guys.

Which sucks for Dallas, who has to deal with OKC...but it makes sense for all the teams involved I feel like. Too much sense maybe.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Paul will be dealt for Russell westbrook. This deal makes so much sense my head hurts

Westbrook --> BostonRondo --> New OrleansPaul --> Oklahoma CityObviously other pieces need to be involved, but don't all three teams get something they like in that? Assuming Paul liked playing in OKC the post-Katrina year.

If a version of this trade happens... OKC becomes THE title contender for the near future (sorry Heat fans), Boston for 1 year, and NO gets stud PG to build around.Would be nice if the Warriors can turn Curry or Ellis into either of these guys.

Or Childress.

 

[Abraham]

Paul is going to big market. Period.

 

[No. 16]

Paul is going to big market. Period.

Don't think Big Market matters much. I think these superstars think forming their own super team is the way to go.CP3HardenDurantIbakaPerkinsThat starting 5 is just a nasty, nasty team. Not sure why CP3 would chose to play with an inferior SF in Melo and front court (Ibaka + Perkins > Amare + ???).

 

[Abraham]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

 

[Voltaire]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

The fad is the superteam. It's worked for the Celts and got tons of hype for the Heat. I wouldn't be shocked to see Paul in OKC. I'd definitely be excited as a basketball fan.

 

[Instinctive]

Paul is going to big market. Period.

Makes me wonder: What do we call the "big markets?" Here's my list:New YorkLos AngelesDallasChicagoBostonHoustonI wouldn't actually call Miami a "big market" but I wouldn't quarrel with somebody who decided to. Is that it? Are there more? Does anyone disagree?ETA: I think Philly probably belongs on the list

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

 

[Instinctive]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

Durant's a different kind of person. Apparently he loves it in Oklahoma City.

 

[Gr00vus]

All this talk of good players going to teams other than the Lakers confuses and frightens me.

 

[No. 16]

Paul is going to big market. Period.

Makes me wonder: What do we call the "big markets?" Here's my list:New York

Los Angeles

Dallas

Chicago

Boston

Houston

I wouldn't actually call Miami a "big market" but I wouldn't quarrel with somebody who decided to. Is that it? Are there more? Does anyone disagree?

ETA: I think Philly probably belongs on the list

I love how people always forget the SF/OAK Bay Area. Once the new owners get rid of the stink of the Cohan Era, FA will have to look at the Warriors.Top TV Markets

Rank Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas

1 New York

2 Los Angeles

3 Chicago

4 Philadelphia

5 Dallas-Ft. Worth

6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose

7 Boston

8 Atlanta

9 Washington, DC

10 Houston

 

[Time Kibitzer]

The rockets at 100 to 1 isn't awful considering teams like the cavs have the same odds. I like the spurs odds beat though.

Not awful if you're the kinda guy who likes value when he pisses his money away, but otherwise it ain't good.

 

[the moops]

All this talk of good players going to teams other than the Lakers confuses and frightens me.

jmon can comfort you with his shtick.Whatever players people are talking about are inferior to Odom and Bynum anyhow.

 

[Kev4029]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

For the same reason Melo, Lebron, Paul, Bosh, Howard, etc also resigned after their rookie deals.Max salary players have no choice but to resign after their rookie deal. Each of those guys (Durant included) could have ran off and signed a max deal with whoever they wanted and 15 minutes later their original team would have matched the deal and they would have been stuck.I'm a little sick of all this Durant is such a great person and teammate talk because here resigned with OKC. I really don't think there is a single case of a max guy not resigning after his 1st round rookie deal.

 

[Kev4029]

All this talk of good players going to teams other than the Lakers confuses and frightens me.

jmon can comfort you with his shtick.Whatever players people are talking about are inferior to Odom and Bynum anyhow.

I missed Jmon.... I think this thread is one of the things I missed most about the NBA lockout. I'm pretty excited about all the hyperbole that will be spewed over the next few weeks.

 

[Instinctive]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

For the same reason Melo, Lebron, Paul, Bosh, Howard, etc also resigned after their rookie deals.Max salary players have no choice but to resign after their rookie deal. Each of those guys (Durant included) could have ran off and signed a max deal with whoever they wanted and 15 minutes later their original team would have matched the deal and they would have been stuck.I'm a little sick of all this Durant is such a great person and teammate talk because here resigned with OKC. I really don't think there is a single case of a max guy not resigning after his 1st round rookie deal.

I thought Durant extended relatively recently?

 

[Voltaire]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

For the same reason Melo, Lebron, Paul, Bosh, Howard, etc also resigned after their rookie deals.Max salary players have no choice but to resign after their rookie deal. Each of those guys (Durant included) could have ran off and signed a max deal with whoever they wanted and 15 minutes later their original team would have matched the deal and they would have been stuck.I'm a little sick of all this Durant is such a great person and teammate talk because here resigned with OKC. I really don't think there is a single case of a max guy not resigning after his 1st round rookie deal.

I think the (slight) distinction is that Durant re-signed for 5 years. I know the '03 class only signed 3 year contracts, but their reasons for doing that are pretty obvious.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Paul is going to big market. Period.

Makes me wonder: What do we call the "big markets?" Here's my list:New York

Los Angeles

Dallas

Chicago

Boston

Houston

I wouldn't actually call Miami a "big market" but I wouldn't quarrel with somebody who decided to. Is that it? Are there more? Does anyone disagree?

ETA: I think Philly probably belongs on the list

I love how people always forget the SF/OAK Bay Area. Once the new owners get rid of the stink of the Cohan Era, FA will have to look at the Warriors.Top TV Markets

Rank Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas

1 New York

2 Los Angeles

3 Chicago

4 Philadelphia

5 Dallas-Ft. Worth

6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose

7 Boston

8 Atlanta

9 Washington, DC

10 Houston

I think Toronto (GTA) slots in about 4th or 5th there. Funny how it is always left out when it comes to 'big-market' talk. I know the various reasons why it isn't a FA destination of choice but it is one of the biggest markets.

 

[No. 16]

Paul is going to big market. Period.

Makes me wonder: What do we call the "big markets?" Here's my list:New York

Los Angeles

Dallas

Chicago

Boston

Houston

I wouldn't actually call Miami a "big market" but I wouldn't quarrel with somebody who decided to. Is that it? Are there more? Does anyone disagree?

ETA: I think Philly probably belongs on the list

I love how people always forget the SF/OAK Bay Area. Once the new owners get rid of the stink of the Cohan Era, FA will have to look at the Warriors.Top TV Markets

Rank Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas

1 New York

2 Los Angeles

3 Chicago

4 Philadelphia

5 Dallas-Ft. Worth

6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose

7 Boston

8 Atlanta

9 Washington, DC

10 Houston

I think Toronto (GTA) slots in about 4th or 5th there. Funny how it is always left out when it comes to 'big-market' talk. I know the various reasons why it isn't a FA destination of choice but it is one of the biggest markets.

What's a Toronto?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Paul is going to big market. Period.

Makes me wonder: What do we call the "big markets?" Here's my list:New York

Los Angeles

Dallas

Chicago

Boston

Houston

I wouldn't actually call Miami a "big market" but I wouldn't quarrel with somebody who decided to. Is that it? Are there more? Does anyone disagree?

ETA: I think Philly probably belongs on the list

I love how people always forget the SF/OAK Bay Area. Once the new owners get rid of the stink of the Cohan Era, FA will have to look at the Warriors.Top TV Markets

Rank Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas

1 New York

2 Los Angeles

3 Chicago

4 Philadelphia

5 Dallas-Ft. Worth

6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose

7 Boston

8 Atlanta

9 Washington, DC

10 Houston

I think Toronto (GTA) slots in about 4th or 5th there. Funny how it is always left out when it comes to 'big-market' talk. I know the various reasons why it isn't a FA destination of choice but it is one of the biggest markets.

What's a Toronto?

Exactly.

 

[Kev4029]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

For the same reason Melo, Lebron, Paul, Bosh, Howard, etc also resigned after their rookie deals.Max salary players have no choice but to resign after their rookie deal. Each of those guys (Durant included) could have ran off and signed a max deal with whoever they wanted and 15 minutes later their original team would have matched the deal and they would have been stuck.I'm a little sick of all this Durant is such a great person and teammate talk because here resigned with OKC. I really don't think there is a single case of a max guy not resigning after his 1st round rookie deal.

I think the (slight) distinction is that Durant re-signed for 5 years. I know the '03 class only signed 3 year contracts, but their reasons for doing that are pretty obvious.

They were all 5 year contracts, I think, they just all had early termination options (option to void after 3 years) except for Melo who had a 5th year option. I would be incredibly surprised if Durant doesn't have an ETO or at least an option year. Not putting that in your contact is just poor business. I'm not trying to say Durant isn't a good dude, or he isn't going to stay in OKC, I'm just saying his signing back up with them is irrelevant to that discussion.

 

[Kev4029]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

For the same reason Melo, Lebron, Paul, Bosh, Howard, etc also resigned after their rookie deals.Max salary players have no choice but to resign after their rookie deal. Each of those guys (Durant included) could have ran off and signed a max deal with whoever they wanted and 15 minutes later their original team would have matched the deal and they would have been stuck.I'm a little sick of all this Durant is such a great person and teammate talk because here resigned with OKC. I really don't think there is a single case of a max guy not resigning after his 1st round rookie deal.

I thought Durant extended relatively recently?

I think it was last year some time, a year ahead of his rookie contract ending, just like most of the big names.

 

[Instinctive]

I have a meeting with Sam Hinkie, EVP of Basketball Operations for the Houston Rockets tomorrow.

Most of our meeting is already on an agenda, but if there's some extra time at the end I thought I'd provide the opportunity to solicit some questions anyone might want the answer to from a guy in his position - I don't know if I'll have time to ask anything we suggest here, but I thought I should see if anybody really wanted to know something just in case

So is there anything yall would want to ask him?

ETA: link

 

[No. 16]

Mavs Won't Re-Sign Chandler?

Tough call here. I can see how the Mavs are not willing to break the bank on an injury prone player who played his best year in a contract year, but at the same time Chandler was THE reason the Mavs became a championship team instead of the one and done playoffs teams in the past. Seems like the Mavs are saving their cap space for next year, but Dallas sans Chandler doesn't looking to appealing to me at least for CP3 or Deron however Dwight would fit perfectly with Nowtizki.

Sounds like New Jersey, Golden State, Houston and Toronto are after Chandler and he would fit well at any of those stops.

If I were him I would rank them if money were equal....

1. Golden State - The core of the team is young and signed long term, goes back to CA, and great ownership.

2. New Jersey - Would put this #1 if Chandler is sure Deron will stay past this year.

3. Houston - This team would have killer defense if Chandler were added.

4. Toronto - Get to play with the homeless man's Dirk.

As a GSW not sure who I would rather have between Nene and Chandler. Both will be overpaid and have injury concerns, but I think with Ellis, Curry, Lee, and Wright the defense Chandler addresses the team's defensive concerns.

 

[biggamer3]

Just thought of this deal, who says no?

Howard and Jameer and maybe salary cap dump turk for Westrook, Perkins and a first

 

[biggamer3]

Mavs Won't Re-Sign Chandler?

Tough call here. I can see how the Mavs are not willing to break the bank on an injury prone player who played his best year in a contract year, but at the same time Chandler was THE reason the Mavs became a championship team instead of the one and done playoffs teams in the past. Seems like the Mavs are saving their cap space for next year, but Dallas sans Chandler doesn't looking to appealing to me at least for CP3 or Deron however Dwight would fit perfectly with Nowtizki.

Sounds like New Jersey, Golden State, Houston and Toronto are after Chandler and he would fit well at any of those stops.

If I were him I would rank them if money were equal....

1. Golden State - The core of the team is young and signed long term, goes back to CA, and great ownership.

2. New Jersey - Would put this #1 if Chandler is sure Deron will stay past this year.

3. Houston - This team would have killer defense if Chandler were added.

4. Toronto - Get to play with the homeless man's Dirk.

As a GSW not sure who I would rather have between Nene and Chandler. Both will be overpaid and have injury concerns, but I think with Ellis, Curry, Lee, and Wright the defense Chandler addresses the team's defensive concerns.

You hear about the gay for Monta rumors? Not sure who wins that

 

[timschochet]

Does Oklahoma have a state income tax? This always seems to be a key issue for many players, I've noticed.

 

[No. 16]

Mavs Won't Re-Sign Chandler?

Tough call here. I can see how the Mavs are not willing to break the bank on an injury prone player who played his best year in a contract year, but at the same time Chandler was THE reason the Mavs became a championship team instead of the one and done playoffs teams in the past. Seems like the Mavs are saving their cap space for next year, but Dallas sans Chandler doesn't looking to appealing to me at least for CP3 or Deron however Dwight would fit perfectly with Nowtizki.

Sounds like New Jersey, Golden State, Houston and Toronto are after Chandler and he would fit well at any of those stops.

If I were him I would rank them if money were equal....

1. Golden State - The core of the team is young and signed long term, goes back to CA, and great ownership.

2. New Jersey - Would put this #1 if Chandler is sure Deron will stay past this year.

3. Houston - This team would have killer defense if Chandler were added.

4. Toronto - Get to play with the homeless man's Dirk.

As a GSW not sure who I would rather have between Nene and Chandler. Both will be overpaid and have injury concerns, but I think with Ellis, Curry, Lee, and Wright the defense Chandler addresses the team's defensive concerns.

You hear about the gay for Monta rumors? Not sure who wins that

Both are the same player: overpaid high volume scorers. I think this is the Jerry West influence considering he drafted Gay. The only reason I see the Dubs doing it is it would make the team bigger/longer in the back court, which is a good thing. As a Warrior fan my attitude on the deal will depend on who else is included but I'd rather stay put with Ellis and his 11 million/year instead of Gay's MAX contract.

 

[Daywalker]

Gasol and Bynum for Howard and a horrible contract sounds possible. Orlando could then move Gasol for younger pieces.

Bynum

Get rid of a horrible contract.

Pieces Gasol could bring you.

Orlando not going to do better then that.

Lakers trade Gasol and Bynum for Howard in an instant.

 

[Voltaire]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

For the same reason Melo, Lebron, Paul, Bosh, Howard, etc also resigned after their rookie deals.Max salary players have no choice but to resign after their rookie deal. Each of those guys (Durant included) could have ran off and signed a max deal with whoever they wanted and 15 minutes later their original team would have matched the deal and they would have been stuck.I'm a little sick of all this Durant is such a great person and teammate talk because here resigned with OKC. I really don't think there is a single case of a max guy not resigning after his 1st round rookie deal.

I think the (slight) distinction is that Durant re-signed for 5 years. I know the '03 class only signed 3 year contracts, but their reasons for doing that are pretty obvious.

They were all 5 year contracts, I think, they just all had early termination options (option to void after 3 years) except for Melo who had a 5th year option. I would be incredibly surprised if Durant doesn't have an ETO or at least an option year. Not putting that in your contact is just poor business. I'm not trying to say Durant isn't a good dude, or he isn't going to stay in OKC, I'm just saying his signing back up with them is irrelevant to that discussion.

Nope. I'm on my way to work, but this is my reminder to look it up later. I'm 100% sure that at least LeBron signed a 3 year contract with a player option for the fourth year. The other guys may have signed the contract you suggest, but I'd be surprised if they did something different. I'm sure the agents were all on the same page in trying to get their clients unrestricted before the CBA expired.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Paul is going to big market. Period.

Makes me wonder: What do we call the "big markets?" Here's my list:New York

Los Angeles

Dallas

Chicago

Boston

Houston

I wouldn't actually call Miami a "big market" but I wouldn't quarrel with somebody who decided to. Is that it? Are there more? Does anyone disagree?

ETA: I think Philly probably belongs on the list

I love how people always forget the SF/OAK Bay Area. Once the new owners get rid of the stink of the Cohan Era, FA will have to look at the Warriors.Top TV Markets

Rank Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas

1 New York

2 Los Angeles

3 Chicago

4 Philadelphia

5 Dallas-Ft. Worth

6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose

7 Boston

8 Atlanta

9 Washington, DC

10 Houston

Side note for those who don't know the area- Baltimore is as close to DC as Ft. Worth is to Dallas. It takes maybe 45 minutes tops to drive from the Verizon Center to Camden Yards. Combining the two puts the area at #7. Link

As far as I can tell, though, the Wizards don't do a very good job of marketing themselves in NBA-less Baltimore. Seems like a waste. Maybe that will change in the Leonsis era- the Capitals' efforts to market in Baltimore are well-known and their fan base there is pretty big.

 

[Kev4029]

As a GSW not sure who I would rather have between Nene and Chandler. Both will be overpaid and have injury concerns, but I think with Ellis, Curry, Lee, and Wright the defense Chandler addresses the team's defensive concerns.

Nene had one season in which he tore his ACL three minutes into the season and another season in which he had cancer. Other than that hes been a pretty healthy center, hes missed 12 regular season games in the past three years. I bet you could count on one hand how many starting centers have played more.I do agree that he will be overpaid though. I think $12M a year is fair, but he'll end up at around $15M.

 

[Abraham]

Because players have egos and those egos make them think they can turn a team around single handed ly. Case in point: Carmelo.

Why did Durant re-sign with OKC instead of testing the waters?

For the same reason Melo, Lebron, Paul, Bosh, Howard, etc also resigned after their rookie deals.Max salary players have no choice but to resign after their rookie deal. Each of those guys (Durant included) could have ran off and signed a max deal with whoever they wanted and 15 minutes later their original team would have matched the deal and they would have been stuck.I'm a little sick of all this Durant is such a great person and teammate talk because here resigned with OKC. I really don't think there is a single case of a max guy not resigning after his 1st round rookie deal.

I think the (slight) distinction is that Durant re-signed for 5 years. I know the '03 class only signed 3 year contracts, but their reasons for doing that are pretty obvious.

They were all 5 year contracts, I think, they just all had early termination options (option to void after 3 years) except for Melo who had a 5th year option. I would be incredibly surprised if Durant doesn't have an ETO or at least an option year. Not putting that in your contact is just poor business. I'm not trying to say Durant isn't a good dude, or he isn't going to stay in OKC, I'm just saying his signing back up with them is irrelevant to that discussion.

Nope. I'm on my way to work, but this is my reminder to look it up later. I'm 100% sure that at least LeBron signed a 3 year contract with a player option for the fourth year. The other guys may have signed the contract you suggest, but I'd be surprised if they did something different. I'm sure the agents were all on the same page in trying to get their clients unrestricted before the CBA expired.

Iirc they all were going to sign the longest deals possible until lebron signed a three year, which bosh and wade then did the same. Melo went on and signed the longer deal.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Mavs Won't Re-Sign Chandler?

Tough call here. I can see how the Mavs are not willing to break the bank on an injury prone player who played his best year in a contract year, but at the same time Chandler was THE reason the Mavs became a championship team instead of the one and done playoffs teams in the past. Seems like the Mavs are saving their cap space for next year, but Dallas sans Chandler doesn't looking to appealing to me at least for CP3 or Deron however Dwight would fit perfectly with Nowtizki.

Sounds like New Jersey, Golden State, Houston and Toronto are after Chandler and he would fit well at any of those stops.

If I were him I would rank them if money were equal....

1. Golden State - The core of the team is young and signed long term, goes back to CA, and great ownership.

2. New Jersey - Would put this #1 if Chandler is sure Deron will stay past this year.

3. Houston - This team would have killer defense if Chandler were added.

4. Toronto - Get to play with the homeless man's Dirk.

As a GSW not sure who I would rather have between Nene and Chandler. Both will be overpaid and have injury concerns, but I think with Ellis, Curry, Lee, and Wright the defense Chandler addresses the team's defensive concerns.

Plenty of rumors that Toronto is going to offer him a stupid deal. They were targeting him last off-season and the trade was already to go before MJ nixed it. I sure don't want to see it happen. Chandler is a good player but is not a good fit for Toronto's current situation.

 

[Sammy3469]

Mavs Won't Re-Sign Chandler?

Tough call here. I can see how the Mavs are not willing to break the bank on an injury prone player who played his best year in a contract year, but at the same time Chandler was THE reason the Mavs became a championship team instead of the one and done playoffs teams in the past. Seems like the Mavs are saving their cap space for next year, but Dallas sans Chandler doesn't looking to appealing to me at least for CP3 or Deron however Dwight would fit perfectly with Nowtizki.

Sounds like New Jersey, Golden State, Houston and Toronto are after Chandler and he would fit well at any of those stops.

If I were him I would rank them if money were equal....

1. Golden State - The core of the team is young and signed long term, goes back to CA, and great ownership.

2. New Jersey - Would put this #1 if Chandler is sure Deron will stay past this year.

3. Houston - This team would have killer defense if Chandler were added.

4. Toronto - Get to play with the homeless man's Dirk.

As a GSW not sure who I would rather have between Nene and Chandler. Both will be overpaid and have injury concerns, but I think with Ellis, Curry, Lee, and Wright the defense Chandler addresses the team's defensive concerns.

Plenty of rumors that Toronto is going to offer him a stupid deal. They were targeting him last off-season and the trade was already to go before MJ nixed it. I sure don't want to see it happen. Chandler is a good player but is not a good fit for Toronto's current situation.

Call me crazy, but a defense first center is exactly what they need to pair with Bargnani

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Mavs Won't Re-Sign Chandler?

Tough call here. I can see how the Mavs are not willing to break the bank on an injury prone player who played his best year in a contract year, but at the same time Chandler was THE reason the Mavs became a championship team instead of the one and done playoffs teams in the past. Seems like the Mavs are saving their cap space for next year, but Dallas sans Chandler doesn't looking to appealing to me at least for CP3 or Deron however Dwight would fit perfectly with Nowtizki.

Sounds like New Jersey, Golden State, Houston and Toronto are after Chandler and he would fit well at any of those stops.

If I were him I would rank them if money were equal....

1. Golden State - The core of the team is young and signed long term, goes back to CA, and great ownership.

2. New Jersey - Would put this #1 if Chandler is sure Deron will stay past this year.

3. Houston - This team would have killer defense if Chandler were added.

4. Toronto - Get to play with the homeless man's Dirk.

As a GSW not sure who I would rather have between Nene and Chandler. Both will be overpaid and have injury concerns, but I think with Ellis, Curry, Lee, and Wright the defense Chandler addresses the team's defensive concerns.

Plenty of rumors that Toronto is going to offer him a stupid deal. They were targeting him last off-season and the trade was already to go before MJ nixed it. I sure don't want to see it happen. Chandler is a good player but is not a good fit for Toronto's current situation.

Call me crazy, but a defense first center is exactly what they need to pair with Bargnani

Yes, definitely. In a couple years if the young players develop he'd be a great fit. Right now getting playing time for Johnson/Davis/Bargnani is more important that winning an extra couple games a season. Toronto isn't contending so why drop a long term deal on a veteran guy who won't be around (or will have lost a step) by the time they're ready to compete?

 

[biggamer3]

Wow just realized that the new cba has a minimum cap of 85% of cap. That's a HUGE win for players as teams will have to overpay scrubs to reach the minimum hence having the same problem from previous cba

 

[Kev4029]

After looking, I think Bosh, Wade and Lebron all had 4 year contracts with an opt out after 3 (Melo signed a 5 year deal with an opt out after 4) and Durant did indeed sign a 5 year contract with no opt outs of any sort.

 

[Juxtatarot]

One of the interesting storylines for this shortened preseason window is if the Bulls will be able to acquire a decent SG. Almost everyone under the sun has already been rumored or speculated about (Richardson, Granger, Nick Young, Crawford, McGrady, Caron Butler, Roy, Hamilton, etc., etc). However, with only the mid-level to offer and an owner who is relunctant to add to payroll, I don't see it happening. I've already accepted another year with Bogans.

 

[biggamer3]

After looking, I think Bosh, Wade and Lebron all had 4 year contracts with an opt out after 3 (Melo signed a 5 year deal with an opt out after 4) and Durant did indeed sign a 5 year contract with no opt outs of any sort.

Durant will retire as a Thunder. Did you see the way he resigned and the way the other stars went about it? he announced on Twitter and that was that.

 

[Wooderson]

I like how the Kings are laying low. Oh you sneaky Kings...

Maloofs you are a bunch of dead beat owners :(

 

[biggamer3]

I like how the Kings are laying low. Oh you sneaky Kings...Maloofs you are a bunch of dead beat owners :(

Honestly, i really like teh Kings squad. I would love to root for a squad of youngsters who are all signed up for years.They should really go after a Nene or Marc Gasol and they could compete for an 8th seed this season

 

[Wooderson]

I like how the Kings are laying low. Oh you sneaky Kings...Maloofs you are a bunch of dead beat owners :(

Honestly, i really like teh Kings squad. I would love to root for a squad of youngsters who are all signed up for years.They should really go after a Nene or Marc Gasol and they could compete for an 8th seed this season

I do like the players. Just sick of not spending money on top players. They need to sign an all star cliber player. Needs some leadership on this team.

 

[Eephus]

I like how the Kings are laying low. Oh you sneaky Kings...Maloofs you are a bunch of dead beat owners :(

Honestly, i really like teh Kings squad. I would love to root for a squad of youngsters who are all signed up for years.They should really go after a Nene or Marc Gasol and they could compete for an 8th seed this season

I do like the players. Just sick of not spending money on top players. They need to sign an all star cliber player. Needs some leadership on this team.

The Jimmer Fredette/DaMarcus Cousins era will be interesting

 

[boubucarow]

One of the interesting storylines for this shortened preseason window is if the Bulls will be able to acquire a decent SG. Almost everyone under the sun has already been rumored or speculated about (Richardson, Granger, Nick Young, Crawford, McGrady, Caron Butler, Roy, Hamilton, etc., etc). However, with only the mid-level to offer and an owner who is relunctant to add to payroll, I don't see it happening. I've already accepted another year with Bogans.

Yeah, the three headed monster at SG looks most likely again. Of course money is the main issue but a few of the guys mentioned are a bad fit since they can't guard SG. Reinsdorf has stated recently he will add payroll if it was the last piece. Of course that still leaves a ton of uncertainty since none of the available players scream title winning upgrade.The good new is that the Bulls should see improvement from a few players on the roster. Rose is only getting better. Noah was developing a decent mid range game prior to the wrist injury that was near non-existent upon his return. It would be huge if he can space the floor for Boozer. Asik should see improvement as well. Those most likely aren't title winning improvements but this team isn't getting any worse.I am just glad the Bulls are worth watching again. The current edition is my favorite team (in all sports) to follow since at least the Jordan dynasty.

 

[Kev4029]

I like how the Kings are laying low. Oh you sneaky Kings...

Maloofs you are a bunch of dead beat owners :(

Honestly, i really like teh Kings squad. I would love to root for a squad of youngsters who are all signed up for years.They should really go after a Nene or Marc Gasol and they could compete for an 8th seed this season

I do like the players. Just sick of not spending money on top players. They need to sign an all star cliber player. Needs some leadership on this team.

They are doing the right thing then in waiting for next year or beyond to throw tons of money at somebody. The prizes of this year's free agency are Nene, Chandler and the ####ty Gasol, they have a combined all star appearances. Here is a list of the headlining FAs this year according to ESPN. Nothing I would want my team to throw $15M a year at if I'm a Kings fan.

 

[Kev4029]

One of the interesting storylines for this shortened preseason window is if the Bulls will be able to acquire a decent SG. Almost everyone under the sun has already been rumored or speculated about (Richardson, Granger, Nick Young, Crawford, McGrady, Caron Butler, Roy, Hamilton, etc., etc). However, with only the mid-level to offer and an owner who is relunctant to add to payroll, I don't see it happening. I've already accepted another year with Bogans.

Yeah, the three headed monster at SG looks most likely again. Of course money is the main issue but a few of the guys mentioned are a bad fit since they can't guard SG. Reinsdorf has stated recently he will add payroll if it was the last piece. Of course that still leaves a ton of uncertainty since none of the available players scream title winning upgrade.The good new is that the Bulls should see improvement from a few players on the roster. Rose is only getting better. Noah was developing a decent mid range game prior to the wrist injury that was near non-existent upon his return. It would be huge if he can space the floor for Boozer. Asik should see improvement as well. Those most likely aren't title winning improvements but this team isn't getting any worse.I am just glad the Bulls are worth watching again. The current edition is my favorite team (in all sports) to follow since at least the Jordan dynasty.

I don't think they have enough money, but Arron Afflalo would be a great fit for Chicago. He can spread the floor almost as well as Korver and can defend better than Bogans and possibly Brewer.

 

[boubucarow]

One of the interesting storylines for this shortened preseason window is if the Bulls will be able to acquire a decent SG. Almost everyone under the sun has already been rumored or speculated about (Richardson, Granger, Nick Young, Crawford, McGrady, Caron Butler, Roy, Hamilton, etc., etc). However, with only the mid-level to offer and an owner who is relunctant to add to payroll, I don't see it happening. I've already accepted another year with Bogans.

Yeah, the three headed monster at SG looks most likely again. Of course money is the main issue but a few of the guys mentioned are a bad fit since they can't guard SG. Reinsdorf has stated recently he will add payroll if it was the last piece. Of course that still leaves a ton of uncertainty since none of the available players scream title winning upgrade.The good new is that the Bulls should see improvement from a few players on the roster. Rose is only getting better. Noah was developing a decent mid range game prior to the wrist injury that was near non-existent upon his return. It would be huge if he can space the floor for Boozer. Asik should see improvement as well. Those most likely aren't title winning improvements but this team isn't getting any worse.I am just glad the Bulls are worth watching again. The current edition is my favorite team (in all sports) to follow since at least the Jordan dynasty.

I don't think they have enough money, but Arron Afflalo would be a great fit for Chicago. He can spread the floor almost as well as Korver and can defend better than Bogans and possibly Brewer.

Afflalo is the Bulls Frankenstein and pipe dream.