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*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (7 Viewers)

I just want to take this moment to thank Josh Smith for allowing me to witness one of the all-time dumbest shots in NBA history.

 
Martin and two firsts for Anthony.

Scola and Lowry for bosh

Resign dragic.

Sign Hubert

Starting five of dragic, melo, bosh, parsons and Hibbert. Go rockets.

 
'Ferris Bueller Fan said:
'Premier said:
I just want to take this moment to thank Josh Smith for allowing me to witness one of the all-time dumbest shots in NBA history.
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:goodposting: I'm 95% sure Charles Barkley could design a better game-ending play by eating a bunch of dry erase markers and pooping them on a whiteboard.
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When he went up to shoot it, it was like one of those slow motion noooooooooooooooos. I couldn't believe it as I was watching it, and I'm not even a Hawks fan.
 
Lakers about to be down by 15 or more- Gasol and Bynum completely absent again. If they're not providing any offense at all, how can the Lakers expect to win?

 
Well Andrew, if you thought close out games were easy, how do you feel about game 7s?

What a debacle. The Lakers have a very good chance now of not advancing.

 
This is two years in a role that Pau Gasol has been simply awful in the playoffs. He doesn't appear to have lost skills, but maybe he has.

 
'Ferris Bueller Fan said:
'timschochet said:
Well Andrew, if you thought close out games were easy, how do you feel about game 7s?What a debacle. The Lakers have a very good chance now of not advancing.
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Be open to the possibility of LAL tanking Games 5 and 6 to cash in an extra home game's worth of revenue, as well as getting Artest out of the penalty box before the OKC series started.
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They're not good enough.
 
'Ferris Bueller Fan said:
Time for Kobe doin' work and making history... :popcorn:
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Kobe was sick tonight but still played very well. He wasn't the problem.Andrew Bynum was 4 for 11 for 11 points.Pau Gasol was 1 for 10 for 3 points.As good as Denver has shot tonight (and all credit to the Nuggets; they've been awesome from the start) the Lakers can't beat the worst team in the NBA with that kind of production from their bigs.
 
'timschochet said:
'Ferris Bueller Fan said:
Time for Kobe doin' work and making history... :popcorn:
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Kobe was sick tonight but still played very well. He wasn't the problem.Andrew Bynum was 4 for 11 for 11 points.Pau Gasol was 1 for 10 for 3 points.As good as Denver has shot tonight (and all credit to the Nuggets; they've been awesome from the start) the Lakers can't beat the worst team in the NBA with that kind of production from their bigs.
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Fairly certain 5 backups from the Lakers would beat the Bobcats.
 
'Ferris Bueller Fan said:
Kobe in Game 7s:2010 Finals (BOS): 6-for-24 from floor; bailed out by Artest hitting the big shot down the stretch as LAL won title2009 WCS (HOU): 4-for-12 from floor; but finally sat back and let Pau Gasol dominate after finally learning Yao Ming suffered a season-ending injury during Game 3, LAL won game and went on to win NBA title2006 first round (PHX): 8-for-16 from floor; seemed to quit on team during halftime and spent second half disengaged from the action, kind of like what the ending of Top Gun would have been like if Maverick and Merlin had flown back to the aircraft carrier instead of getting over the fear and knocking some MiGs out of the sky, LAL lost game and blew a 3-1 lead in the series to get knocked out of the playoffs2002 WCF (SAC): 10-for-26 from floor; with 8.2 left in regulation and LAL up by two, Kobe fouled Mike Bibby, allowing Bibby to tie game at the line, then Kobe missed potential game-winning shot with 2.7 left and game went to OT; Kobe took zero shots from floor in OT (he hit two free throws in the final seconds with the game already out of reach) but Shaq came through in the clutch, scoring on back-to-back possessions in last 2 minutes to put LAL ahead for good, LAL won game and went on to win NBA title2000 WCF (POR) 9-for-19 from floor; Kobe hit two free throws to put LAL up by two with 1:34 to go capping a furious fourth-quarter comeback by the Lakers, led team in points, rebounds, and assists, but missed two free throws with 25 seconds left to keep the door open for PORKobe career shooting in Game 7s: 37-for-97 (.381)His best shooting performance in a Game 7, the only time he made half of the shots he took in a Game 7, came in a game his team lost by 31.
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So you're saying Kobe is 4-1 in Game 7s and each win led to an NBA title. Thanks for your usual great analysis.
 
Just got home from Pepsi Center...place was rocking and still rocking throughout the concourses and parking lots after the game.

Ty Lawson looking like the Mavs Barrea from last year against the Lakers - and they had no answers defensively and only Kobe on offense....speaking of - he was arguing the flagrant against Faried which takes a lot of balls after tomahawking Farieds head. A couple of mystery calls on Kobe and he was jabbing and grabbing on the other end without a call. Faried set a pick on Kobe that was no different than the on Gasol put on Gallinari the other night - of course Kobe gets the call.

Gasol is nowhere - Faried is giving him fits on both ends - love the Manimal.

At least there is a chance - I think WP will help the Lakers - they can get Blake off the floor...but that is on D. On Offense it will be all Kobe all the time. They blew up the Lakers tonight without McGee getting in the mix - so that may help. Everyone on the Nuggets was real business in the locker room interviews after the game, while Mike Brown basically thru Gasol and Bynum under the bus.

Too bad the Game 7 is starting late on the east coast

 
When Bryant was asked whether his teammates matched his heart in Thursday's game, he replied, "No. Of course they didn't."Bryant said he spoke with Gasol after the game and planned to speak with Bynum to ensure they have the proper focus heading into a winner-take-all Game 7."It's one of those things where psychologically you have to put yourself in a predicament, in a position where you have no other option but to perform," Bryant said. "You have to emotionally put yourself with your back against the wall and kind of trick yourself, so to speak, to feel that there's no other option but to perform and to battle. When you have that, when you put yourself in that mind state, then your performance shines through. Your talent shines through, and it doesn't matter what the defense does, it doesn't matter if you get fouled. It doesn't matter because you're emotionally at a level that's above that. That's the mind state that they have to put themselves in."On the positive side, the Lakers will have Metta World Peace back in the lineup Saturday, as Game 6 marked the last game of World Peace's seven-game suspension for elbowing Oklahoma City's James Harden in the head."I expect him to come out and play with the tenacity that he's known for," Bryant said. "He's the one guy that I can rely on night in and night out to compete and play hard and play with that sense of urgency and play with no fear. So, I'm looking forward to having that by my side again."
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I understand his frustration, but the correct answer to this line of questioning is "no comment". :wall: :wall:
 
'Ferris Bueller Fan said:
'Shrugs said:
So you're saying Kobe is 4-1 in Game 7s and each win led to an NBA title. Thanks for your usual great analysis.
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Derek Fisher is 5-0 in Game 7s and four of those wins led to an NBA title.So by your logic it's clear Derek Fisher is more clutch than Kobe Bryant. As usual we're all flattered to know you read this thread and it's a joy to read all the insight and thoughtfulness permeating in your posts in this thread and every other thread that has the privilege of your participation.
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I have no problem admitting Fisher has been a clutch player in his career. Of course, what you fail to mention is that Kobe scored 10 points in the fourth quarter, had 15 rebounds, and made the play to get Artest wide open for the 3-pointer, doing all the little things to make sure the Lakers beat Boston in 2010 despite his off shooting. Or how Kobe only played a minute in the fourth quarter against Houston in 2009 because the Lakers were up by 19 entering the quarter, so he didn't need to put on his usual game-closing performance. Then there's how Kobe had 30 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists while hitting 3 free throws in the final 46 seconds of regulation in 2002 against Sacramento. And you somehow focus on two irrelevant missed free throws in the 2000 Portland game in which Kobe had 25 points, 11 rebounds, 7 assists and 4 blocks as well as setting up the biggest play of the comeback with his lob to Shaq. You see, Kobe is a winner while you are just a guy who wastes his time trying to manipulate statistics to support your petty Internet rants.
 
I think George Karl deserves a whole lot of credit for this series. Doubling everything down low has completely removed Bynum and Gasol from the game and its pretty clear that Bynum's frustration is affecting his production on the defensive side of the ball as well. If the Lakers are going to beat you, make them do it with Kobe taking 25 contested jumpers a game. I don't think the statistics would show it, but I feel like since game 2 Jordan Hill has been the best big for the Lakers, that's a good spot for the Nuggets to be in.

It was nice to see the law of averages finally catch up the the Nuggets jump shooting tonight, they seemed to make everything from everywhere. I think that as long as they can hit a respectable amount of jumpers in Game 7 the should be able to pull of the series victory.

Games like tonight are the reason why I don't want McGee to get a long term contract this offseason. For every Game 5 he has, he has a half dozen games like tonight where he is a total non-factor.

I think the most hated player right now in Colorado sports is Kobe Bryant. I absolutely love how the crowd boos him every time he touches the ball.

 
'Bucky86 said:
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'Kev4029 said:
Sounds like Chris Andersen got busted for child porn. Seems like that dude has had a lot of demons in his life.
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Sad. I thought he seemed like a good dude.Hope it's not as it seems.
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So...we know how Thugget fans talk about Kobe ever since he was accused of rape. Will we see the same reaction? :popcorn:
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Really? I rarely jump into this Kobe rape thing because I think its usually in poor taste, but are you complaining that Nuggets fans are mean to Kobe because he raped a girl? I find it incredibly unlikely that any Nuggets fans will defend Birdman if there is any evidence that he was into kiddie porn like some Lakers fans have defended Kobe.

 
I'm getting really frustrated watching Sessions, Barnes, and Blake pass up WIDE OPEN shots. I don't have a great feeling about Saturday. I do know that MWP won't pass up those shots. Here's hoping he's on.

 
'Beerguzzler said:
I'm getting really frustrated watching Sessions, Barnes, and Blake pass up WIDE OPEN shots. I don't have a great feeling about Saturday. I do know that MWP won't pass up those shots. Here's hoping he's on.
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None of them are shooting well, if they were taking all the open shots that have you would be even more frustrated with all the shots they were missing. The Nuggets have made the Lakers into a jump shooting team and its killing them.
 
'Kev4029 said:
'Beerguzzler said:
I'm getting really frustrated watching Sessions, Barnes, and Blake pass up WIDE OPEN shots. I don't have a great feeling about Saturday. I do know that MWP won't pass up those shots. Here's hoping he's on.
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None of them are shooting well, if they were taking all the open shots that have you would be even more frustrated with all the shots they were missing. The Nuggets have made the Lakers into a jump shooting team and its killing them.
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They arent making the shots anyways. That extra pass into the post or to someone else just keeps resulting in a contested shot and a miss. You can't keep passing up those wide open jump shots.
 
'Beerguzzler said:
'Kev4029 said:
'Beerguzzler said:
I'm getting really frustrated watching Sessions, Barnes, and Blake pass up WIDE OPEN shots. I don't have a great feeling about Saturday. I do know that MWP won't pass up those shots. Here's hoping he's on.
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None of them are shooting well, if they were taking all the open shots that have you would be even more frustrated with all the shots they were missing. The Nuggets have made the Lakers into a jump shooting team and its killing them.
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They arent making the shots anyways. That extra pass into the post or to someone else just keeps resulting in a contested shot and a miss. You can't keep passing up those wide open jump shots.
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If it is open on the first pass, it will be open on the 5th or 6th pass. What they need to do is incorporate more ball movement and at least make the defense reposition to open up offensive rebounding opportunities before settling.
 
'Beerguzzler said:
I'm getting really frustrated watching Sessions, Barnes, and Blake pass up WIDE OPEN shots. I don't have a great feeling about Saturday. I do know that MWP won't pass up those shots. Here's hoping he's on.
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this is the important thing to remember. he's not afraid of the moment or kobe.
 
'tommyGunZ said:
When Bryant was asked whether his teammates matched his heart in Thursday's game, he replied, "No. Of course they didn't."Bryant said he spoke with Gasol after the game and planned to speak with Bynum to ensure they have the proper focus heading into a winner-take-all Game 7."It's one of those things where psychologically you have to put yourself in a predicament, in a position where you have no other option but to perform," Bryant said. "You have to emotionally put yourself with your back against the wall and kind of trick yourself, so to speak, to feel that there's no other option but to perform and to battle. When you have that, when you put yourself in that mind state, then your performance shines through. Your talent shines through, and it doesn't matter what the defense does, it doesn't matter if you get fouled. It doesn't matter because you're emotionally at a level that's above that. That's the mind state that they have to put themselves in."On the positive side, the Lakers will have Metta World Peace back in the lineup Saturday, as Game 6 marked the last game of World Peace's seven-game suspension for elbowing Oklahoma City's James Harden in the head."I expect him to come out and play with the tenacity that he's known for," Bryant said. "He's the one guy that I can rely on night in and night out to compete and play hard and play with that sense of urgency and play with no fear. So, I'm looking forward to having that by my side again."
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I understand his frustration, but the correct answer to this line of questioning is "no comment". :wall: :wall:
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Yup. While I agree with Kobe here (and we'll leave aside the question of whether his style of play contributes to his teammates' detachment), this seems pretty harsh. Maybe Bynum and Pau are the kind of guys that respond well to being called out, though. I guess we'll see in game 7.
 
From the Los Angeles Times:

Mike Brown is getting outcoached. It's not that big of a deal to leave Bryant in until the 7:52 mark in the fourth quarter. Bryant wanted to stay in anyway and any additional rest might not have really provided much of a difference. No need to really dissect Brown putting Matt Barnes in the second half for Devin Ebanks. Despite Barnes and Ebanks combining for 16 points, both of them made many mistakes in defensive transition. Big picture, though, it's obvious Brown's coaching is contributing to the Lakers regressing throughout the series. To Brown's credit, he prepared the team tremendously by providing comprehensive scouting reports before the series started. Players unanimously attributed that effort to the Lakers' sharp focus and energy in Games 1 and 2. But since that time, the Lakers have mad few adjustments to counter the Nuggets.Despite blistering double teams on Bynum, it doesn't appear the sets are changing to provide him with better looks. Despite Gasol's tremendous talent, there's very few sets that are drawn up for him in the low post. Despite Andre Miller presenting way too much size for Steve Blake to handle, Brown hasn't put Bryant or Ebanks on him to counter that height advantage.

Sure, the players are at fault too. Bynum has stayed unpredictable. Gasol has showed passiveness the last two games. The Lakers' supporting cast hasn't hit outside shots thelpast two games. But it's also on Brown to ensure the team retains its collective focus. That hasn't happened one bit.

 
Regardless of what happens Saturday, the Lakers aren't getting out of the second round if they make it there. They'll be lucky to win a game from OKC in that case. At that point I think you need to break these guys up. Send Bynum out for Howard (sorry Cappy), send Gasol out for whatever. This isn't a championship quality squad (like I've been saying all year), the problems are deep seeded and involve the main 3 guys's heads. Brown is getting steamrolled by egos he doesn't know how to work with, just like in Cleveland, they've tuned him out.

 
'Gr00vus said:
Regardless of what happens Saturday, the Lakers aren't getting out of the second round if they make it there. They'll be lucky to win a game from OKC in that case. At that point I think you need to break these guys up. Send Bynum out for Howard (sorry Cappy), send Gasol out for whatever. This isn't a championship quality squad (like I've been saying all year), the problems are deep seeded and involve the main 3 guys's heads. Brown is getting steamrolled by egos he doesn't know how to work with, just like in Cleveland, they've tuned him out.
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You've always been the most negative of Lakers fans around here, and right now it's hard to argue with you. But I'm not convinced you're right. Every game in the playoffs, and every series, is a reset. If the Lakers can win on Saturday, and if Bynum returns to the form we saw in the first two games of this series, then they could beat Oklahoma City.
 
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