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Too late for this. Last night was the last chance to try that, because I have a strong feeling the two will no longer be playing on the same team any longer.IMHO, Gasol should be getting the ball in the high post (which he does on occasion), and play hi/low with Bynum (I don't recall this once lately). Gasol is the best passer on the team, Bynum is the best low post, Gasol can hhit the elbow jumper... no brainer imo.
Exactly, and it's a ### ####ed shame because matuski is 100% correct. Brown couldn't game plan it and Kobe wouldn't let them execute it enough to be effective even if Brown could. Gasol's 1st year with the Lakers, after Bynum came back to close out the regular season, they did that all the time and just destroyed people. Some of the best basketball I've ever seen as Bynum was nearly as good at interior passing as Gasol was. Sometimes they'd have Gasol on the low block, just outside the lane, Bynum inside the free throw circle, ball goes to Gasol, Bynum dives to the basket and either Bynum's open and gets the dish from Gasol or the defense collapses on Bynum and Gasol gets a gimmie. Worked every time they did it. Then they just stopped doing it when the playoffs rolled around and things got a bit rougher. It never surfaced again. A real shame.Too late for this. Last night was the last chance to try that, because I have a strong feeling the two will no longer be playing on the same team any longer.IMHO, Gasol should be getting the ball in the high post (which he does on occasion), and play hi/low with Bynum (I don't recall this once lately). Gasol is the best passer on the team, Bynum is the best low post, Gasol can hhit the elbow jumper... no brainer imo.
We may go overboard using titles to define players, but I think it makes sense.Sure, we know who these players are from watching on a daily/yearly basis, but it's what they do in the Playoffs that shapes and defines their career. Titles are the ultimate goal, so seeing Duncan win another certainly adds to his resume for greatness, especially being able to do it at this age on a team that plays so differently than how he's won his others.
Imo, he is already on this list - ahead of Kobe. If I were drafting an all time team, he is my 1.1.Objectively, I think the rings matter when you start splitting hairs among the best ever.
I have a problem with all of the best ever rankings. If you are simply ranking the greatest NBA players of all time, then team accomplishments are a tremendous indicator of that greatness. And I assume that every rankings follows this line of reasoning.However, I tend to think of best player ever in the following terms. If I could choose any players career from beginning to end for my franchise, who would I want? It obviously is far more difficult to try and separate a player's success from the teammates contributions. But when I do attempt to think in these terms, a player like Duncan doesn't get too much extra credit if the Spurs win a title this year. The fact that he is lucky to have the talent around him doesn't change the player he is right now. That said, Duncan is very high on my list. And Kobe isn't as high as his "NBA greatness" would indicate. For instance, Olajuwon would clearly be chosen before Kobe in these terms. I feel that Olajuwon gave his team a year in and year out better chance to compete for titles than Kobe. Duncan is the clear choice before both players IMO.
I would put this in the category as
That's a pretty tough question, even if you limit it to post-Jordan players (not counting guys on fumes when Jordan retired).I'd go Duncan, then Shaq.
Yeah, the Celtics have really come on of late.
https://twitter.com/#!/BrianCardinalBrian Cardinal's tweet: 10 assists away from a double/double...LOL I had to look at the box score because I thought you were fishing. Too funny.42 points 0 assists
Funny, but he's in the NBA and those dorks aren't. Only reply he needs.https://twitter.com/#!/BrianCardinalBrian Cardinal's tweet: 10 assists away from a double/double...LOL I had to look at the box score because I thought you were fishing. Too funny.42 points 0 assists
Laker fans hammered him after that comment:
who is Brian Cardinal?
only double double youve ever see was from @InNOut homie
u have more fouls than assist per game
and what the hell have you done?
Brian, I need to overcome some odds in life - how did you do it?
As he should be. Guy's living the dream.
The Heat have a few of this kind.
I wouldnt call anyone else "A complete waste"LBJWadeBoshChalmers- Is at least serviceableBattier- Can shootMiller- Can shootJones- Can shootHaslem- Very good mid range shooter and Offensive rebounderCole- Can penetrateTuriaf- Complete wasteWho else plays?
I'm a neutral party now? I must be slipping. I root against the Lakers at every opportunity I get. My dad and I once heckled a young Leonardo DiCaprio at an LA/SEA game. They are absolutely my favorite team in the league to hate.'Gr00vus said:
He's three years in to a four deal earning him an average of 750k per year, which means he's making more in four years than you will make in 20. I imagine he will sleep fine tonight.
Jordan, magic, bird, Kareem, russel down?I dont think I have ever seen a list that has Wilt outside the top 5.
Yes.Jordan, magic, bird, Kareem, russel down?
Down behind Wilt, yep.magic, bird, Kareem, russel down?
Phil Jackson is the greatest coach of all time. Controlling the egos of maniacs like Jordan and Kobe is an amazing management job. Popovich is also very great but it's hard for me to put anyone above Phil.
Ok, 3.
Another championship doesn't change my view of Duncan. The fact that he's playing at the level he is now, and how he has transitioned his role so seamlessly means more than the actual ring since he's proven he can win on the biggest stage already.
That Pittman elbow got the same call as Artest's "shove" last night.
"The Book of Basketball" has him at 6 (behind Abraham's list).Obviously, Simmons is a Laker hater and Bird worshipper, but it doesn't totally wreak of homerism and he gives plenty of support of that position. He's not on a huge island (minority, sure, but not an island).Yes.Jordan, magic, bird, Kareem, russel down?
I'm on board with you saying this was drastically worse. Artest had a run of the mill flagrant. Pittman needs to have a nice season, guy.
Sorry Abe but I would not have Wilt in my top 5, Kareem either. 1. JordanLarry BirdMagic JohnsonBill RussellKobe BryantShaqTim DuncanKareemHakeem...in some orderWilt played in an era where no one could really stand up to him, I just discount a lot of his years and I don't know that he would have been quite as elite had he played in the modern era of the NBA.
IMO Haslem and Pittman should be suspended. Both were terrible.
Interested in why you have Kobe so high and Kareem do low. Not arguing, truly interested.
Abe's list makes about 30 times more sense IMO.
Yea, not sure how he doesnt get ejected for that. I imagine he will miss a game or two now though
