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Captain Quinoa
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Nice try at deflecting your entry for Most Ridiculous NBA Related Post of 2012.
They have no deep threat that will force teams not to crowd the middle.
Vicktimized
Footballguy
??? Lawson and Afflalo each border on 40% career from deep. Gallo had a bad year but is still right around 37%. That's probably abnormally strong if anything.
simmonjm
Footballguy
While their starters are nothing special there bench is likely the best in the NBA.
Eephus
Footballguy
How can you tell the difference?
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Faried is probably one of the top 15 assets in the league. That's pretty special.'simmonjm said:
KentGraham10
Footballguy
I REALLY like this team. About the best you can do without a star.'Kev4029 said:
the moops
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timschochet
Footballguy
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8193410/sources-orlando-magic-keep-dwight-howard-now
The Orlando Magic have told rival executives that they might not trade Dwight Howard after all, according to league sources.
An executive who has had discussions with the Magic regarding Howard said Orlando only will trade the star center in a deal that is great for the franchise. The executive said this has been Orlando's stance for the past "week or so."
Another executive who has talked with Orlando said he thinks the Magic may start the season with Howard and wait until the February trade deadline to move him.
Each executive left the door open for posturing, noting that the Magic may be bluffing in hopes of coaxing better offers out of opposing teams. But the overriding sense is that Howard may not be moved for weeks, if not months.
The Los Angeles Lakers and Houston Rockets both covet Howard, but each team has come away from trade discussions thinking the Magic -- at least for now -- are not interested in trading the six-time All-Star, according to sources.
Howard has been steadfast in his desire to be traded since the end of last season, telling new Magic general manager Rob Hennigan last month in their first face-to-face meeting that he wanted to be traded to the Brooklyn Nets.
But with Howard under contract for next season, the only firm deadline Orlando faces is next season's trade deadline.
While the angst between the Magic and Howard is real and sizable, the franchise also realizes that Howard is fickle, impressionable and prone to change his mind.
When Howard first requested a trade to the Nets this past December, it seemed unfathomable that he would waive his opt-out clause. But that's exactly what he did in March.
So with a new front office and soon a new head coach -- widely expected to be Jacque Vaughn -- the Magic may believe Howard could change his mind again before next season's trade deadline.
If the Magic start the season with Howard, his preferred destination of Brooklyn once again becomes a possible landing spot. The Nets recently signed center Brook Lopez, who would presumably be the centerpiece of a Brooklyn-Orlando trade for Howard. Lopez is not eligible to be traded until January 15, a full month before the trade deadline.
So if Howard doesn't sign a contract extension with Orlando before the deadline -- and if the Lakers or Rockets haven't been able to acquire him by then -- the Nets would perhaps emerge as the front-runner once again.
Then again, Orlando may also be banking on the fact that neither the Nets nor the Lakers, whom Howard has told confidantes he would sign with long-term, will have the salary-cap room to sign him outright to a max deal next summer when he becomes a free agent.
The Orlando Magic have told rival executives that they might not trade Dwight Howard after all, according to league sources.
An executive who has had discussions with the Magic regarding Howard said Orlando only will trade the star center in a deal that is great for the franchise. The executive said this has been Orlando's stance for the past "week or so."
Another executive who has talked with Orlando said he thinks the Magic may start the season with Howard and wait until the February trade deadline to move him.
Each executive left the door open for posturing, noting that the Magic may be bluffing in hopes of coaxing better offers out of opposing teams. But the overriding sense is that Howard may not be moved for weeks, if not months.
The Los Angeles Lakers and Houston Rockets both covet Howard, but each team has come away from trade discussions thinking the Magic -- at least for now -- are not interested in trading the six-time All-Star, according to sources.
Howard has been steadfast in his desire to be traded since the end of last season, telling new Magic general manager Rob Hennigan last month in their first face-to-face meeting that he wanted to be traded to the Brooklyn Nets.
But with Howard under contract for next season, the only firm deadline Orlando faces is next season's trade deadline.
While the angst between the Magic and Howard is real and sizable, the franchise also realizes that Howard is fickle, impressionable and prone to change his mind.
When Howard first requested a trade to the Nets this past December, it seemed unfathomable that he would waive his opt-out clause. But that's exactly what he did in March.
So with a new front office and soon a new head coach -- widely expected to be Jacque Vaughn -- the Magic may believe Howard could change his mind again before next season's trade deadline.
If the Magic start the season with Howard, his preferred destination of Brooklyn once again becomes a possible landing spot. The Nets recently signed center Brook Lopez, who would presumably be the centerpiece of a Brooklyn-Orlando trade for Howard. Lopez is not eligible to be traded until January 15, a full month before the trade deadline.
So if Howard doesn't sign a contract extension with Orlando before the deadline -- and if the Lakers or Rockets haven't been able to acquire him by then -- the Nets would perhaps emerge as the front-runner once again.
Then again, Orlando may also be banking on the fact that neither the Nets nor the Lakers, whom Howard has told confidantes he would sign with long-term, will have the salary-cap room to sign him outright to a max deal next summer when he becomes a free agent.
timschochet
Footballguy
I think this is all a bluff to try to get more. But damn, I am getting sick of this story already. Orlando should just announce they're not trading him and be done with it.
Premier
Footballguy
Why in hell would they do something stupid like that?
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Because it would fit right in with the generally stupid approach to running the franchise they've seemingly adopted since about 2010.
Premier
Footballguy
Otis Smith is still employed?
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Name 15 better.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Some idiot in this thread has been saying it might not be smart to trade him at all.
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
A rookie with a 22 PER, 60+ TS%, highest offensive rebound rate in the league, very athletic defender and his numbers improved with more minutes. I really can't think of 15, much less 30, more valuable players going forward.
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Cliff Clavin
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This is might be my favorite thread ever.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
The only place on the internets where Landry Fields is a top 50 player, Fariad is a top 15 asset and Martin/Scola are the most sought after duo in the NBA.This is might be my favorite thread ever.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Faried vs. 1992 Dream Team: Faried wins by 8-10.
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Lebron
Howard
Paul
Durant
Westbrook
Kyrie
Love
Anthony Davis
Rose
Bynum
Howard
Paul
Durant
Westbrook
Kyrie
Love
Anthony Davis
Rose
Bynum
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
That it? Best asset after those guys?
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Voice Of Reason
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Can we add "asset" to the language filter?
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Well you said he was top 15 so could you give us the last 5 guys?
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Starts to get difficult after that point. Who are the 20 I am missing?
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Come on, you can do it!
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Waiting for your 29 or 30 better players list.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
I will add 5 more to your list to finish off your "top 15" stance.RondoWilliamsWallAldridgeGriffin
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Then Houston will have the 1st overall pick to offer up
Notorious T.R.E.
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So Faried is the best player on his team? And he'd be the best player on about 15 other teams?
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
D Williams and Aldridge are better players. However, with their max deals vs Faried rookie contract and Faried's age, Faried is a very comparable asset.
Faried is a young and better version of Griffin.
Rondo and Wall aren't close.
Faried is a young and better version of Griffin.
Rondo and Wall aren't close.
Cliff Clavin
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Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
If they are smart.
Bobcat10
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Voice of Reason indeed.
timschochet
Footballguy
If Faired is so great, then how come Abraham hasn't offered Scola and Martin for him?
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Heads would explode.
Cecil_Pooples
Footballguy
This Voice of Reason d!p #### also said Landry Fields was a Top 50 player.
How'd that turn out for you guy??
How'd that turn out for you guy??
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