They're saying 10 weeks, not for the season. Who knows. 10 weeks probably puts them out of the playoffs, so at that point, they may be better off losing and getting a top 15 pick in this loaded draft.
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Someone from WGN radio says the Bulls fear he tore his ACL. It looked like it to me, although his knee didn't wobble quite like many ACL tears. Perhaps only a partial tear?
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Iguodala's injury sounds not insignificant. Can't even walk on it. ####.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Of course they would. It would allow them to rebuild after next year and rid themselves of Rose's contract. (I'm ignoring the fact that the trade doesn't work under salary cap rules.)
But this is stupid. No team would take on Rose's contract.
Lin has no value. Asik has a bit. Most teams would take a chance on Rose's contract. He's 25 and a former mvp.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Rose didn't act like someone who just tore a ligament. He acted like someone who just severely sprained his knee.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Kofous started for the number 3 seed last year, hes a legit center, I wouldn't count them out yet.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
So what would Houston do until 2017 when Rose finally decides he's ready to play again?
Abraham
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Is Lin/Asik the new Martin/Scola? Gotta say, Martin/Scola >>>> Lin/Asik.
Deal makes zero sense for the Bulls. Why would they want Asik to backup Noah?
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pollardsvision
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Abraham
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Asik's sulking has declined his value some. Lin has actually played well the last few weeks; the sixth man role is suiting him well. He's shooting over 50% from the field and 41% from deep. Not to say he has a lot of value because of his contract, but as was detailed on grantland the other day he's basically settled in as the 15th - 20th best pg in the league and a good not great player for his role.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
You missed a key word there. That's a pretty bad article. The guy should know that using a 10 game sample from Lin is pretty foolish.
Abraham
Footballguy
That's true. But his most recent few games is encouraging. 15/5 off the bench with quality shooting (which you have to admit he has been displaying - his three point shot is a lot better this season) makes him a quality player. Yes he needs to keep it up. Yes it is a small sample. But can you agree that he looks substantially better in terms of performance and "fit" this year compared to last?
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Sure. But you could point to a stretch last December or in February and say the same thing. He's a streaky player. If he maintains this level of play all year then yes, he'll be much improved and a quality player. Call me sceptical though.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Abe: aren't you guys still paying Matt Maloney?
Maybe he can come out and run the point for Houston.
Maybe he can come out and run the point for Houston.
simmonjm
Footballguy
Stephenson just notched his second triple double of the season the other night plus his team is arguably the best in the East.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Rose torn meniscus. Having surgery.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24270847/bulls-derrick-rose-has-torn-right-meniscus-will-have-surgerySurgically repaired meniscus tears can keep players out anywhere from eight weeks to four months, depending on the severity of the tear and the type of repair done during the surgery.
So about 2-3 years.
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Raider Nation
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He'll come back good as new in 2021.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Rose likely out until at least the All Star game, gotta think Chicago will take it's time with him, could see them delaying it longer but if he doesn't get going by March, the excuse lat year was the playoffs are not the right time to come off an injury. The East if it wasn't already is now a 2 horse race.
I will say though that a team like the Brooklyn Nets who have come out slow, they are built more for the playoffs. They are old, won't have back to back nights. They stink at the moment but so does the East and they are only a couple games out of 1st in their division.
I will say though that a team like the Brooklyn Nets who have come out slow, they are built more for the playoffs. They are old, won't have back to back nights. They stink at the moment but so does the East and they are only a couple games out of 1st in their division.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
It's already solved. Perfect fit. Doesn't need the ball. Doesn't clog the lane. Can hit outside jumpers. For a 21 year old, there's not a whole lot he doesn't do well already.They aren't getting anyone for Asik that is a better fit or has Jones's upside.
And didn't cost them an asinine 4 year $56 million deal for a guy that hasn't improved his game since entering the league. Given the dough they're paying Dwight/Harden/Lin/Asikwhomever, Jones's contract for the next 3 years is invaluable. If I don't get want I want, I keep Asik if I'm the Rockets.
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tommyGunZ
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Agreed. Jones may get picked on in the playoffs, but he's been outstanding so far. I'd start him at PF for the next 60+ games and get whatever they can for Asik.
Raider Nation
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Raider Nation
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Adjusting for inflation, is the contract given to Jon Koncak in '89 still considered the worst deal in NBA history?
He made more than Jordan, Magic and Bird.
He made more than Jordan, Magic and Bird.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Jim Mcilvane's contract has to be close.Adjusting for inflation, is the contract given to Jon Koncak in '89 still considered the worst deal in NBA history?
He made more than Jordan, Magic and Bird.
Premier
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Raider Nation
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Blazers legit. Still think they need to improve bench (more) even when CJ McCollum returns.Another backup big would serve them well. Meyers Leonard doesn't belong on an NBA floor anytime soon. Talent wise he should have been a 4 year college player. (Was stunned to see him on an NBA floor last year after watching him at Illinois)
Aldridge and Lopez both terrific with help defense down low. Warriors simply couldnt finish at the hoop.
Aldridge and Lopez both terrific with help defense down low. Warriors simply couldnt finish at the hoop.
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pollardsvision
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I was waiting to hear the diagnosis before responding to this. It's not as bad as an ACL tear, of course, but my concern is it's just going to be one injury after another for Rose. With 3 years and $60 million on his contract, he's being paid to be a top 10 player but I think it's very unlikely he'll return to being that.
I doubt "most" teams would want Rose at $20 million a year. In fact, if a salary dump opportunity existed, the Bulls should take it. For Abe's interest, I'd accept a simpler offer that fits within the cap rules: Rose for Asik and Lin. I'd then try to trade Asik on another team, maybe for an expiring and a future pick, if I could get it.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
That's literally the dumbest (both in concept and execution) t-shirt I've ever seen.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Was that Al Rorke behind you ?tommyGunZ said:
tom22406
Footballguy
Still shocking as to how bad the East is this year so far with only 4 teams above .500 and now with Rose gone from the Bulls it could hit 3 very soon.
Meanwhile the West is freaking loaded.Almost not fair a team will have to get through all those tough teams while the East should be pretty easy for the Heat and Pacers(that series,if it does happen,will be great though) to advance.
Meanwhile the West is freaking loaded.Almost not fair a team will have to get through all those tough teams while the East should be pretty easy for the Heat and Pacers(that series,if it does happen,will be great though) to advance.
Balco
Footballguy
Really bizarre move.
The talent on the team is better than the record, but the players definitely need to embrace defined roles. The other question is whether Kidd is defining the roles or not.
the moops
Footballguy
I get out plenty. I agree with GPJ. That is just a dumb shirt. Not sure why you are hanging your hat on that gunz.
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