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NCAA Basketball Thread - 2022-3 Season (1 Viewer)

BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Wow. So proud of these Spartans. That was a big win over an extremely good team. They average 80 pts a game, State held them to 60.

I think they’ve found their defensive mojo.

ON to the S16

#GOGREEN
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I thought both teams played like crap. Defensive mojo? In the second half Marquette turned it over 7- out of 10 times down the court and the game was still tied. It was like the ball had Vaseline on it. Most of the TOs were on horrible passes and stupid plays, and on top of that they were taking horrible shots, it was unreal. I think MSU only had a hand in 1-2 of them. Never seen a team self implode like that in one half.

Anyway I am glad MSU won as I had them moving on.
 
Summer Wheat said:
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Wow. So proud of these Spartans. That was a big win over an extremely good team. They average 80 pts a game, State held them to 60.

I think they’ve found their defensive mojo.

ON to the S16

#GOGREEN
#SPARTANNSTRONG
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I thought both teams played like crap. Defensive mojo? In the second half Marquette turned it over 7- out of 10 times down the court and the game was still tied. It was like the ball had Vaseline on it. Most of the TOs were on horrible passes and stupid plays, and on top of that they were taking horrible shots, it was unreal. I think MSU only had a hand in 1-2 of them. Never seen a team self implode like that in one half.

Anyway I am glad MSU won as I had them moving on.
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I guess I'm referring to the state of MSU's defensive trend going into the tourney. It was trending in the wrong direction for a team that prides itself on playing good defense.
 
Penguin said:
For sake of argument we'll use 8 billion people. If every one of those 8 billion people submitted 8 billion unique brackets each, (8 Billion x 8 Billion) it would still take like 150 years to get a perfect bracket. And that would take 8 billion people submitting 8 billion entries each/per year ( all unique) for 150 years
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Looking for opinions on the West bracket. In my draft group (thing we've been doing for 31 years) I have both Gonzaga and UConn and would like to trade one of them to diversify a bit. I've got Alabama so not looking for anyone in the South, but have none of my teams left in the East or Midwest. Thinking about proposing to deal either Zags or UConn for a package that includes multiple teams or maybe one team plus points. I doubt Houston is available but I think I can get about anyone else. I also still have Princeton alive (took them with the 60th pick in the draft) as a sweetner if needed.
 
CletiusMaximus said:
Looking for opinions on the West bracket. In my draft group (thing we've been doing for 31 years) I have both Gonzaga and UConn and would like to trade one of them to diversify a bit. I've got Alabama so not looking for anyone in the South, but have none of my teams left in the East or Midwest. Thinking about proposing to deal either Zags or UConn for a package that includes multiple teams or maybe one team plus points. I doubt Houston is available but I think I can get about anyone else. I also still have Princeton alive (took them with the 60th pick in the draft) as a sweetner if needed.
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Not sure what opinions you might be looking for as this seems like a reasonable thing to try and do. I think the tricky part will be finding a trade partner...someone who is need of the West (maybe the Kansas owner?) and has excess in the East or Midwest. Right now, UConn seems like the real deal to me. I think I would be looking to deal Gonzaga if one of them has to go.
 
Galileo said:
CletiusMaximus said:
Looking for opinions on the West bracket. In my draft group (thing we've been doing for 31 years) I have both Gonzaga and UConn and would like to trade one of them to diversify a bit. I've got Alabama so not looking for anyone in the South, but have none of my teams left in the East or Midwest. Thinking about proposing to deal either Zags or UConn for a package that includes multiple teams or maybe one team plus points. I doubt Houston is available but I think I can get about anyone else. I also still have Princeton alive (took them with the 60th pick in the draft) as a sweetner if needed.
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Not sure what opinions you might be looking for as this seems like a reasonable thing to try and do. I think the tricky part will be finding a trade partner...someone who is need of the West (maybe the Kansas owner?) and has excess in the East or Midwest. Right now, UConn seems like the real deal to me. I think I would be looking to deal Gonzaga if one of them has to go.
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This is what I'm thinking as well. As between UConn and Gonzaga, I think I'll try to dump the Zags and try to trade for KanSt., Texas or Tennessee.
 
CletiusMaximus said:
Galileo said:
CletiusMaximus said:
Looking for opinions on the West bracket. In my draft group (thing we've been doing for 31 years) I have both Gonzaga and UConn and would like to trade one of them to diversify a bit. I've got Alabama so not looking for anyone in the South, but have none of my teams left in the East or Midwest. Thinking about proposing to deal either Zags or UConn for a package that includes multiple teams or maybe one team plus points. I doubt Houston is available but I think I can get about anyone else. I also still have Princeton alive (took them with the 60th pick in the draft) as a sweetner if needed.
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Not sure what opinions you might be looking for as this seems like a reasonable thing to try and do. I think the tricky part will be finding a trade partner...someone who is need of the West (maybe the Kansas owner?) and has excess in the East or Midwest. Right now, UConn seems like the real deal to me. I think I would be looking to deal Gonzaga if one of them has to go.
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This is what I'm thinking as well. As between UConn and Gonzaga, I think I'll try to dump the Zags and try to trade for KanSt., Texas or Tennessee.
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Definitely try and scoop K-State. That guard, Nowell, is ridiculous and they look good all around and probably are still not taken as seriously as say, Texas and the other top teams, to go all the way (or getting by Bama).

As to your other predicament, I like keeping the Zags over UCONN. Others will expect them to falter as usual so you're not getting any value there. UCLA losing their best defensive player did not affect them in early rounds but it's a matter of time, imo. And you no longer have Kansas to get by (though I wouldn't underestimate Arkansas). Still, that's a nice road for them now. And you'll get plenty more fish to bite on UCONN, especially with them facing an 8 seed.

Go get K-State. Stick with the Zags and let someone overpay for UCONN. And don't even think about Texas or Tennessee. JMO.
 
CletiusMaximus said:
Galileo said:
CletiusMaximus said:
Looking for opinions on the West bracket. In my draft group (thing we've been doing for 31 years) I have both Gonzaga and UConn and would like to trade one of them to diversify a bit. I've got Alabama so not looking for anyone in the South, but have none of my teams left in the East or Midwest. Thinking about proposing to deal either Zags or UConn for a package that includes multiple teams or maybe one team plus points. I doubt Houston is available but I think I can get about anyone else. I also still have Princeton alive (took them with the 60th pick in the draft) as a sweetner if needed.
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Not sure what opinions you might be looking for as this seems like a reasonable thing to try and do. I think the tricky part will be finding a trade partner...someone who is need of the West (maybe the Kansas owner?) and has excess in the East or Midwest. Right now, UConn seems like the real deal to me. I think I would be looking to deal Gonzaga if one of them has to go.
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This is what I'm thinking as well. As between UConn and Gonzaga, I think I'll try to dump the Zags and try to trade for KanSt., Texas or Tennessee.
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I think K St, Uconn, and Texas are the most talented teams left in their regions. The question with their opposition is if defense travelling trumps all cause that's how UCLA, Houston, and Tennessee win.
 
Personally, I would only trade Gonzaga for Houston, UCLA (doesn't make sense since they are playing each other) and Texas at this point.

UConn I wouldn't trade for anyone outside of Bama. I would hold on to these 2.

Kansas State is overrated and Nowell had a great game, but UK struggled all year with small quick guards. Michigan St beats them on Thursday. And Tennessee is way too limited offensively for my liking. They might make the Final Four based on their remaining bracket, but I don't think they stand a chance against Bama or Creighton or even San Diego St.
 
Timmay said:
Kansas State is overrated and Nowell had a great game, but UK struggled all year with small quick guards. Michigan St beats them on Thursday. And Tennessee is way too limited offensively for my liking. They might make the Final Four based on their remaining bracket, but I don't think they stand a chance against Bama or Creighton or even San Diego St.
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The bolded is important, though, depending on how the pool pays out. Winner only, or final four choices pay out also?
 
Timmay said:
Personally, I would only trade Gonzaga for Houston, UCLA (doesn't make sense since they are playing each other) and Texas at this point.

UConn I wouldn't trade for anyone outside of Bama. I would hold on to these 2.

Kansas State is overrated and Nowell had a great game, but UK struggled all year with small quick guards. Michigan St beats them on Thursday. And Tennessee is way too limited offensively for my liking. They might make the Final Four based on their remaining bracket, but I don't think they stand a chance against Bama or Creighton or even San Diego St.
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Hard to say any team is overrated in this year's tourney and the current landscape. K-State looked damn good to me, and I wouldn't underestimate a team like that. On fire with a great guard.

There's good reason the "dynasty-type" teams, or whatever you want to call them, are out already, for what, like the 3rd time in the last 40 years or some **** (some ESPN stat)? Obviously the landscape has changed and this thing is still pretty wide open. You can find holes in all of them, easily.

If I had to pick an overrated team right now, it would be your Michigan State pick. I suffered watching a handful of their games, due to a friend that went there, and even he was not so impressed. That said, Izzo's squad will get the benefit of the doubt, if you think reffing can play a part, as I do, so there is that. And sure enough, they are favored, which says a lot. One could argue, to my previous point, that a 7 seed should not be favored over a 3 seed, but nothing gets by Vegas.

In any case, they don't pass the "eye test" with me, but we'll see soon enough. I'm now thinking of actually making my first bet of the tourney. On K-State.


I do agree with your take on Bama, like most everyone else.

As for K-State "not standing a chance" against the other two (Creighton and SDSU). Totally disagree. Creighton is solid but by no means would K-State not stand a chance. And SDSU can be beat by many of those that are left. Stop Bradley. Aztecs have a great D that got em here and I would love to be wrong -- any surprise would be great -- but there's just not enough O there. It will show eventually.

Let's not forget that SDSU took out Charleston and Furman in getting here. Look, they're not getting by Bama but in the scenario of possibly matching up with K-State, I don't see how you can say that K-State would not stand a chance. The line alone on that matchup would signify a toss up, more or less.
 
Harry Frogfish said:
Timmay said:
Personally, I would only trade Gonzaga for Houston, UCLA (doesn't make sense since they are playing each other) and Texas at this point.

UConn I wouldn't trade for anyone outside of Bama. I would hold on to these 2.

Kansas State is overrated and Nowell had a great game, but UK struggled all year with small quick guards. Michigan St beats them on Thursday. And Tennessee is way too limited offensively for my liking. They might make the Final Four based on their remaining bracket, but I don't think they stand a chance against Bama or Creighton or even San Diego St.
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Hard to say any team is overrated in this year's tourney and the current landscape. K-State looked damn good to me, and I wouldn't underestimate a team like that. On fire with a great guard.

There's good reason the "dynasty-type" teams, or whatever you want to call them, are out already, for what, like the 3rd time in the last 40 years or some **** (some ESPN stat)? Obviously the landscape has changed and this thing is still pretty wide open. You can find holes in all of them, easily.

If I had to pick an overrated team right now, it would be your Michigan State pick. I suffered watching a handful of their games, due to a friend that went there, and even he was not so impressed. That said, Izzo's squad will get the benefit of the doubt, if you think reffing can play a part, as I do, so there is that. And sure enough, they are favored, which says a lot. One could argue, to my previous point, that a 7 seed should not be favored over a 3 seed, but nothing gets by Vegas.

In any case, they don't pass the "eye test" with me, but we'll see soon enough. I'm now thinking of actually making my first bet of the tourney. On K-State.


I do agree with your take on Bama, like most everyone else.

As for K-State "not standing a chance" against the other two (Creighton and SDSU). Totally disagree. Creighton is solid but by no means would K-State not stand a chance. And SDSU can be beat by many of those that are left. Stop Bradley. Aztecs have a great D that got em here and I would love to be wrong -- any surprise would be great -- but there's just not enough O there. It will show eventually.

Let's not forget that SDSU took out Charleston and Furman in getting here. Look, they're not getting by Bama but in the scenario of possibly matching up with K-State, I don't see how you can say that K-State would not stand a chance. The line alone on that matchup would signify a toss up, more or less.
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The not standing a chance reference was in regards to Tennessee if they were to match up with those teams.

I don't disagree with you that Michigan State isn't overrated as well, but they do have one of the best NCAA Tourney coaches of all time on their side, so yes I am picking them over K-State. That is all, I'm not saying they are going on to win the whole thing.

Personally I don't think K-State is that good of a team. They have some great guards in Johnson and Nowell, but they matched up great with their first 2 opponents really well.

SDSU is a really solid team, especially on defense. If their offense comes to play against Bama then it could be an upset. With that being said however, I feel like the only team that can beat Bama is Bama itself. If they miss their 3's and struggle on defense, then watch out.
 
For S16 I took the following:

Decent Parlay; UConn ML + K-State ML = +218

Bigger bets: UConn -4, UCLA O145.5, Texas U149

Smaller bets: UCLA -1.5, SDSU +7, Houston O138, Princeton +10
 
Haven't locked in anything yet, but I'm leaning the following tonight:

Uconn -4 and O 72 (+160)
Tenn 1H -3 and Total O 130 (+210)

If Sparty gets out to an early lead I'll live bet the KSU ML, but I'm not parlaying that game. I don't have a good read on Gonzaga/UCLA - may just wait and ML whoever is trailing 10 mins in. Both the spread and the total seem about on point. May just take Timme O 29.5 Pts/Reb/Ast - he's cleared that 5 out of 7 times (one of the misses was 29) since Feb in games he's played 30+ mins (cause they were actually competitive).
 
As much as I want to take UConn -4, it feels like a trap.

Liking Tennessee/FAU Under 129.5, Michigan State -1.5 and UCLA O 73 TT (debating if I like this or the O145.5 better).
 
Schmeabs said:
Gonzaga wins tonight
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What makes you so confident? Normally I would agree with Clark being out and all, but Gonzaga has come out pretty flat (mainly on defense) in the first half of the first two games. They were able to make up for it with great second halves against GCU and TCU. But they can't do that against UCLA. The potential hole would be too much for Gonzaga to eek out a win against a talented team like UCLA.

Their 73rd ranked kenpom defense is starting to show.
 
Scoresman said:
Schmeabs said:
Gonzaga wins tonight
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What makes you so confident? Normally I would agree with Clark being out and all, but Gonzaga has come out pretty flat (mainly on defense) in the first half of the first two games. They were able to make up for it with great second halves against GCU and TCU. But they can't do that against UCLA. The potential hole would be too much for Gonzaga to eek out a win against a talented team like UCLA.

Their 73rd ranked kenpom defense is starting to show.
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It has more to do with UCLA than Gonzaga. The injuries they have now give them a very short bench. Jacquez is the one man show and if he gets in foul trouble it is over. I watched UCLA a lot this year and am not overly impressed. Their defense was pretty good but without Clark that makes a big difference. Campbell has been making shots lately which he normally does not do, if he continues to stay hot they have a chance. I am betting he reverts to the mean.
 
Schmeabs said:
Scoresman said:
Schmeabs said:
Gonzaga wins tonight
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What makes you so confident? Normally I would agree with Clark being out and all, but Gonzaga has come out pretty flat (mainly on defense) in the first half of the first two games. They were able to make up for it with great second halves against GCU and TCU. But they can't do that against UCLA. The potential hole would be too much for Gonzaga to eek out a win against a talented team like UCLA.

Their 73rd ranked kenpom defense is starting to show.
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It has more to do with UCLA than Gonzaga. The injuries they have now give them a very short bench. Jacquez is the one man show and if he gets in foul trouble it is over. I watched UCLA a lot this year and am not overly impressed. Their defense was pretty good but without Clark that makes a big difference. Campbell has been making shots lately which he normally does not do, if he continues to stay hot they have a chance. I am betting he reverts to the mean.
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Campbell has actually been in a shooting slump for a while (he even went 0 for 7 from the floor against Northwestern). As a UCLA fan, I hope he reverts to the mean pretty soon. I agree with you about UCLA's short bench. My concern is that it is wearing on Jacquez and Campbell, especially if Singleton can't play meaningful minutes after hurting his ankle against Northwestern. Hopefully Amari Bailey continues to play well and the Bruins can control the tempo, going slowly when they have a big man on the court, but putting pressure on Gonzaga and running when they don't.
 
Is notre dame really that much better if a job than penn state? I assume they offered more money but penn state surely could have matched if they wanted to. I know that the notre dame has had more success historically but is it really that much easier to recruit there?

Likewise with Cooley leaving providence for Georgetown. Just don’t seem like obvious upgrades for either coach. I guess the new jobs seem more prestigious but Georgetown especially has been a tire fire for a while.
 
ChiefD said:
Whoever wrote the Coke commercial with the two guys in the diner wanking off to one Coke under the table should never be allowed to work in advertising ever again.
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Can we get the Charles Barkley / Spike Lee / Sam Jackson Capitol One writers included in this pact?
 
I dont understand. Why cant he get them to play like this during the season? It seems like every year, they get a **** seed and way outperform it.
 
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