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NCAA final four - UNC player transcripts oddly show that they won game (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Capella
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
And at the same time he's trying to extend "kiss" out to three syllables. It's perplexing.
heckmanm
Footballguy
I've often wondered if he died a little inside when he had to call a Syracuse-Temple (while Cheney was still there) game
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit said:
Called it!
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
You lost your mind on me because someone else insulted your hero. You've got some mental problems.
Capella said:Fsu is a top-100 undergrad and top-50 for law which is where I went. Either @BassNBrew didn't look very hard or he's a moron, or more likely both.
Point was your title is about as stupid as the guy stalking you about Winston. I'm sure if you turn over the rocks there's plenty of cheating at FSU and most every major university. I've seen it firsthand at CofC in a minor sport.
Obviously the rest of the ACC is happy they didn't add another title to the list. Actually I should say national championship because they did add the ACC regular season and post season title to their list.
Capella
Footballguy
Of course there is cheating. I hope fsu cheats every day as long as they don't get caught. But get a sense of humor you doof. It's college sports, it's corrupt from the top down. Sheesh.
Also nobody in the ACC cares if Carolina won or lost, except for Duke and maybe NCSU.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Petition to have NCAA Championship Game overturned
" This game was poorly officiated from the tip off to the end. It was a one sided called game all the way through. The officials called fouls against UNC that should have not been called and never called Villanova for the fouls they committed. The officials never called Villanova for multiple travel violations either. Also I want a complete investigation into the officials as it was them that decided the game not who played better. "
The real gem, though, is from the Comments...
"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defense. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."
Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NC
" This game was poorly officiated from the tip off to the end. It was a one sided called game all the way through. The officials called fouls against UNC that should have not been called and never called Villanova for the fouls they committed. The officials never called Villanova for multiple travel violations either. Also I want a complete investigation into the officials as it was them that decided the game not who played better. "
The real gem, though, is from the Comments...
"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defense. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."
Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NC
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I wasn't just dismissing K, I was dismissing an entire tier of good NCAA coaches. The skillset to be a great NCAA coach barely overlaps with the skillset to be a great NBA coach. Both on and off-court.Yeah, Truck, but what you said was "How many of the big coaches could be good NBA coaches? Not K." I was just reacting to the outright dismissal of the notion that K could coach in the NBA (as opposed to a more nuanced take on the concept), which I found surprising coming from an intelligent person like you, not some mouth-foaming Duke-hating goof like Georgia Tech Guy. Personally, I'm quite happy K didn't jump to the Lakers (if he was ever serious about that) just over a decade ago and am just fine with him "remaining" a college coach.
Let me flip it around, if NCAA basketball existed in a weird world where every coach had roughly the same level of talent, who do you think the best teams would be? Or would their be widespread parity? On average, how many conference games do you think Duke would win a year?
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
100% agree. Self would not be a long-term success as an NBA head coach. He might have the tactical acumen to be a defensive coordinator, but that's about it. Self's hidden talents are things like fundraising for facility upgrades to help recruiting, skills that would not be a difference-maker in the NBA.Good Posting Judge said:
IMO your premise holds true throughout CBB history. CBB legends like John Wooden and Dean Smith wouldn't have been dominant NBA coaches - their acts played best to 18-22 year olds. Bobby Knight probably wouldn't have lasted one full season before getting fired or imprisoned. IIRC the only coach to run an NCAA and NBA champion bench is Larry Brown, and if there was a mold for a guy like him it's broken now.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
The petition is stupid, but Hansbrough is right. The uncalled travels by VILL were ridiculous.Bruce Dickinson said:
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Chuck Daly is one guy who comes to mind who was successful at both levels, though certainly not as big-time in college. Overall, the premise is clearly correct.
Then there's Eddie Jordan and Isiah Thomas, who were pretty bad in both, which must prove some kind of corollary.
Then there's Eddie Jordan and Isiah Thomas, who were pretty bad in both, which must prove some kind of corollary.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Jury still is out, but Brad Stevens is looking pretty solid so far.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Sure. Point taken.Good Posting Judge said:
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
It would have been interesting to see what he could've done with a major college program, but it looks like that ship might have sailed.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
When it ends badly in Boston, and you know it will, he might go back to CBB and I'd think he'd have his pick of the best openings. So maybe that ship still comes to port.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Good call. Many thought he would be the odds-on favorite for the Duke job post-K, but I think that will go to Jeff Capel or Chris Collins.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
He can probably write his own ticket on either side, barring some complete meltdown. Bad beat for Duke that he's proved himself as an NBA coach before they had a chance to woo him. I suppose they could still get him, it's a massive job, but I guess it's going to come down to what he wants.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Short Corner
Footballguy
If his run ends in BOS prematurely he will have his pick of whatever NBA job is open.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I don't think there was ever any chance that K's handpicked successor - he's the de facto athletics director for all relevant purposes and will be allowed to choose - will be anything other than a Duke grad and former player.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Okay, noted, I guess
Having exclusively former players as his assistants has resulted in three national titles since 2001, so if that's dumb, I'll take it. Of course, he himself did not go to Duke. But I have a feeling that the successor will be a former Duke player and assistant coach. The only qualified people I'd really want to consider outside that box are Stevens and maybe Gregg Marshall. I may be missing one or two others.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
The bolded is all the argument you need as to why this is dumb. No K, no 5 titles. Maybe no titles! So if this given restriction would've prevented Duke from winning several titles and rising to become one of the biggest programs in the nation, why would you want to put it in place for the future?
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I didn't say I did or all that much about my preferences. In fact I allowed for the opposite and cited two examples not fitting the mold.
chauncey
Footballguy
Now that I have had a week to digest the loss, I want to clarify my comments about Nova fans. Most of the Nova fans I met in Houston were awesome. There was a mutual respect and appreciation for each other's team and history.
Sitting next to me at the Championship game was a Nova grad who brought his 7 year old son. He had tickets to the Final Four in Detroit but had to bail at the last second for the birth of his son, and this trip to Houston was a last minute purchase to hopefully see Nova win and share that experience with his boy. Despite the heartbreak of the final seconds for me the sheer joy that this father and son experienced was something I'll never forget, and hopefully get to experience myself one day.
Also there were many Nova fans at the airport Tuesday afternoon and they were very respectful and gracious in discussing the incredible game we had just seen.
Sure, many of the fans in their 20's and 30's at the game were obnoxious, but I imagine that would have been the case for the fans of any team that won. A reflection of youthful exuberance in general, nothing to do with the actual school, its alumni, or its fans.
Congrats again to Nova for its domination in the tourney and its execution when everything was on the line.
Sitting next to me at the Championship game was a Nova grad who brought his 7 year old son. He had tickets to the Final Four in Detroit but had to bail at the last second for the birth of his son, and this trip to Houston was a last minute purchase to hopefully see Nova win and share that experience with his boy. Despite the heartbreak of the final seconds for me the sheer joy that this father and son experienced was something I'll never forget, and hopefully get to experience myself one day.
Also there were many Nova fans at the airport Tuesday afternoon and they were very respectful and gracious in discussing the incredible game we had just seen.
Sure, many of the fans in their 20's and 30's at the game were obnoxious, but I imagine that would have been the case for the fans of any team that won. A reflection of youthful exuberance in general, nothing to do with the actual school, its alumni, or its fans.
Congrats again to Nova for its domination in the tourney and its execution when everything was on the line.
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