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[Good Posting Judge]

OK, it's going to sound really dumb criticizing UK after this, but I think the platoon system might not be a great idea. Going 10 deep I like, but having 2 strict sets of five doesn't allow for micro-adjustments, and it doesn't allow for guys on each five to develop much chemistry with the other guys, which might come in handy if there's a foul situation, or injuries, etc. What if the ideal line-up for a given team means playing Ulis and Towns together?

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter. It's not a bad problem to have.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Also, I'm a little extra glad that UConn nabbed one when they could.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter.

Agree with your point, but it feels like above is the reality.

This team will only get better and honestly, I don't even think it would matter. If they show up for 6 games in the tourney like they did tonight, they can't be beaten.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

OK, it's going to sound really dumb criticizing UK after this, but I think the platoon system might not be a great idea. Going 10 deep I like, but having 2 strict sets of five doesn't allow for micro-adjustments, and it doesn't allow for guys on each five to develop much chemistry with the other guys, which might come in handy if there's a foul situation, or injuries, etc. What if the ideal line-up for a given team means playing Ulis and Towns together?

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter. It's not a bad problem to have.

I'll bet we will see the platoons mix and match between games, just not during them.

I agree with you about the ideal lineup part. Seems silly that Ulis and Poythress aren't on the floor together; those two should have synergy.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter.

Agree with your point, but it feels like above is the reality.

This team will only get better and honestly, I don't even think it would matter. If they show up for 6 games in the tourney like they did tonight, they can't be beaten.

The point spread of 7.5 over KU on a neutral is probably closer to the reality of the situation than 30+, I mean this is a team that Buffalo hung with for 30 min. But, they may not be underdogs for the rest of the year.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Obviously hard to criticize Kentucky after a win like that, but whether because they chose not to or couldn't, Kansas did nothing but mount a Washington Generals-style gameplan. Trading baskets inside with Kentucky is not likely to generate much success this season. Add in not being able to hit anything from outside, and I'm not sure this game says as much about Kentucky as it does about Kansas.

Still, Kentucky will definitely be favored the rest of the season in pretty much every game as GPJ says.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Simmons just announced a new 30 For 30. The title, and I'd like to make clear I am not making this up, is:

"I Hate Christian Laettner"

Here's the press release.

Tentative premiere date is March 15, 2015, airing on ESPN after the NCAA Tournament brackets are announced.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Obviously hard to criticize Kentucky after a win like that, but whether because they chose not to or couldn't, Kansas did nothing but mount a Washington Generals-style gameplan. Trading baskets inside with Kentucky is not likely to generate much success this season. Add in not being able to hit anything from outside, and I'm not sure this game says as much about Kentucky as it does about Kansas.

Still, Kentucky will definitely be favored the rest of the season in pretty much every game as GPJ says.

A few more posts like this one, and you're going to have to put yourself on Ignore.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Obviously hard to criticize Kentucky after a win like that, but whether because they chose not to or couldn't, Kansas did nothing but mount a Washington Generals-style gameplan. Trading baskets inside with Kentucky is not likely to generate much success this season. Add in not being able to hit anything from outside, and I'm not sure this game says as much about Kentucky as it does about Kansas.

Still, Kentucky will definitely be favored the rest of the season in pretty much every game as GPJ says.

A few more posts like this one, and you're going to have to put yourself on Ignore.

I'm not the least bit interested in your opinion, Bruce. Sorry about that and the embarrassing beatdown.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Next week's tilt against Rider should go better?

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Obviously hard to criticize Kentucky after a win like that, but whether because they chose not to or couldn't, Kansas did nothing but mount a Washington Generals-style gameplan. Trading baskets inside with Kentucky is not likely to generate much success this season. Add in not being able to hit anything from outside, and I'm not sure this game says as much about Kentucky as it does about Kansas.

Still, Kentucky will definitely be favored the rest of the season in pretty much every game as GPJ says.

A few more posts like this one, and you're going to have to put yourself on Ignore.

I'm not the least bit interested in your opinion, Bruce. Sorry about that and the embarrassing beatdown.

At least two lies in your last post there. Efficient.



UK and KU play 10 times on a neutral court. Is UK's average margin of victory closer to 20 or 40?

 

[Frostillicus]

Gophers beat Western Kentucky by 22 tonight.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Next week's tilt against Rider should go better?

The next game I'm curious about is Florida visiting the Phog on 12/5. Last year Florida crushed KU in Gainesville with a lot of 3/4 court pressure and 1/2 court traps. Same game plan Villanova used to beat KU in the Bahamas last Thanksgiving.

I want to see if this year's Jayhawks can handle well-executed organized pressure better than last year's team could. I'm hopeful Tharpe's transfer out is addition by subtraction. We'll see.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Gophers beat Western Kentucky by 22 tonight.

Beating down Clem Haskins's alma mater is one step closer to healing those wounds Clem The Gem inflicted upon the program.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Tip your waitress!

 

[Sinn Fein]

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter.

Agree with your point, but it feels like above is the reality.

This team will only get better and honestly, I don't even think it would matter. If they show up for 6 games in the tourney like they did tonight, they can't be beaten.

If teams are scared of UK, then it will be difficult. But, there are a number of veteran teams that won't be as intimidated as KU looked to start the game.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Obviously hard to criticize Kentucky after a win like that, but whether because they chose not to or couldn't, Kansas did nothing but mount a Washington Generals-style gameplan. Trading baskets inside with Kentucky is not likely to generate much success this season. Add in not being able to hit anything from outside, and I'm not sure this game says as much about Kentucky as it does about Kansas.

Still, Kentucky will definitely be favored the rest of the season in pretty much every game as GPJ says.

A few more posts like this one, and you're going to have to put yourself on Ignore.

I'm not the least bit interested in your opinion, Bruce. Sorry about that and the embarrassing beatdown.

At least two lies in your last post there. Efficient.



UK and KU play 10 times on a neutral court. Is UK's average margin of victory closer to 20 or 40?

The crazy thing to think about is that UK shot the ball really poorly. Booker can shoot and he was 1/6 from 3 and all of them good looks. Lyles had 2 good looks from 3 and missed both. 33% from 3, 43% overall, and 61.5% from the line. This could have been a beatdown of epic proportions if they shoot it decent.

In answer to your question, I think the average margin would be closer to 20 than 40, but I think it might be closer to 30 than 10.

 

[MattFancy]

So...Kentucky is pretty good. Honestly don't see how they lose a game this year unless they just don't show up.

 

[The Commish]

Just want to say...you brought this upon yourself.

When this guy's sours this entire thread...remember you invited it with the ego feeding thread titles.

The collective FFA is stronger than the ACC thread regulars....will be a blood bath....the good kind And the thread titles were post Archer participation, not the other way around.

 

[The Commish]

OK, it's going to sound really dumb criticizing UK after this, but I think the platoon system might not be a great idea. Going 10 deep I like, but having 2 strict sets of five doesn't allow for micro-adjustments, and it doesn't allow for guys on each five to develop much chemistry with the other guys, which might come in handy if there's a foul situation, or injuries, etc. What if the ideal line-up for a given team means playing Ulis and Towns together?

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter. It's not a bad problem to have.

My only question about Kentucky is when they run into a better "team" with size. Will the raw athletic ability win out or will the better "team" win? I think it's safe to say KU was a pretty favorable matchup for Kentucky

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Tip your waitress!

Self's presser was polarizing among KU fans, but I dug it. If you love the game, how can you not smile at least a little bit at how well UK played last night, especially on defense?

Calipari is managing his team really well so far. He emphasized if you can play, NBA scouts will notice your talent whether you are playing 12 minutes per game or 36. IMO, he's right about this: on NBA Draft night, you rarely hear appeals to counting stats to argue for a player's future success. It's about skill sets and development.

 

[MattFancy]

OK, it's going to sound really dumb criticizing UK after this, but I think the platoon system might not be a great idea. Going 10 deep I like, but having 2 strict sets of five doesn't allow for micro-adjustments, and it doesn't allow for guys on each five to develop much chemistry with the other guys, which might come in handy if there's a foul situation, or injuries, etc. What if the ideal line-up for a given team means playing Ulis and Towns together?

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter. It's not a bad problem to have.

My only question about Kentucky is when they run into a better "team" with size. Will the raw athletic ability win out or will the better "team" win? I think it's safe to say KU was a pretty favorable matchup for Kentucky

The Kentucky/UNC matchup next month could be interesting. Meeks and Johnson could pose an inside threat to UK.

 

[Sammy3469]

Tip your waitress!

Self's presser was polarizing among KU fans, but I dug it. If you love the game, how can you not smile at least a little bit at how well UK played last night, especially on defense?

Calipari is managing his team really well so far. He emphasized if you can play, NBA scouts will notice your talent whether you are playing 12 minutes per game or 36. IMO, he's right about this: on NBA Draft night, you rarely hear appeals to counting stats to argue for a player's future success. It's about skill sets and development.

It'll work until it doesn't, but I do find it funny everyone is giving UK the crown already. KU got taken to the woodshed. So what, it's the middle of November and Self is still figuring the parts on that team out. Granted UK is the most athletic, but it's not like KU, Duke, MI State, UNC, 'Ville, or 'Zona aren't big teams as well with in some cases players with better skills than UK at certain positions.

The best team in November isn't necessarily the best team in March especially with any number of teams still finding their sea legs.

 

[Timmay]

Like Calipari said, UK played good enough on offense, but played great on defense. They will continue to get better on offense as the season progresses and it would be scary to think they could get even better on the defensive side as well. This is going to be a great team come march.

I loved seeing the baby hooks from some of the big guys last night for UK. It isn't flashy and you rarely see it anymore, but if 7 footers like Towns, Dakari, Lee and Big Willie can hit those, they would be un-guardable in college.

 

[The Commish]

OK, it's going to sound really dumb criticizing UK after this, but I think the platoon system might not be a great idea. Going 10 deep I like, but having 2 strict sets of five doesn't allow for micro-adjustments, and it doesn't allow for guys on each five to develop much chemistry with the other guys, which might come in handy if there's a foul situation, or injuries, etc. What if the ideal line-up for a given team means playing Ulis and Towns together?

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter. It's not a bad problem to have.

My only question about Kentucky is when they run into a better "team" with size. Will the raw athletic ability win out or will the better "team" win? I think it's safe to say KU was a pretty favorable matchup for Kentucky

The Kentucky/UNC matchup next month could be interesting. Meeks and Johnson could pose an inside threat to UK.

A team that can force Kentucky out of the paint will be a challenge. I don't think either of the Harrison twins have the ability to win the game for them from outside.

 

[Timmay]

OK, it's going to sound really dumb criticizing UK after this, but I think the platoon system might not be a great idea. Going 10 deep I like, but having 2 strict sets of five doesn't allow for micro-adjustments, and it doesn't allow for guys on each five to develop much chemistry with the other guys, which might come in handy if there's a foul situation, or injuries, etc. What if the ideal line-up for a given team means playing Ulis and Towns together?

Of course, UK might be good enough to where it doesn't matter. It's not a bad problem to have.

My only question about Kentucky is when they run into a better "team" with size. Will the raw athletic ability win out or will the better "team" win? I think it's safe to say KU was a pretty favorable matchup for Kentucky

The Kentucky/UNC matchup next month could be interesting. Meeks and Johnson could pose an inside threat to UK.

A team that can force Kentucky out of the paint will be a challenge. I don't think either of the Harrison twins have the ability to win the game for them from outside.

The thing that is going to help UK with a team that can force them out of the paint (im not sure which team would be able to do that, no one can match their size) is that UK is such a good offensive rebounding team, that the 2nd chance points will be there. Just put it up on the rim and let your big guys that all run 6'9"+ get it.

 

[WampusCat43]

I think the blueprint to beating KY is just what UConn did in the finals - two very quick guards that hit 3s and a team that doesn't miss free throws. UK is willing to give up lots of fouls with 30 to pass around the big men. KU couldn't do that and got annihilated.

UK is benefiting from that island trip earlier this year. The team has bonded and has committed to the platoon system and now, defense (they hadn't practiced that at all back in June).

They've dominated the second half of every game so far, basically due to fatigue. :58 mark

 

[Pipes]

So...Kentucky is pretty good. Honestly don't see how they lose a game this year unless they just don't show up.

I think a team would need about 2 or 3 guys to catch fire from 3's. That's maybe the only way.

 

[butcher boy]

There will be a typical letdown game. Always is. Some road game against someone like LSU which comes right after a big matchup against Florida, or UCLA on a neutral court after the UNC game.

Remember, Buffalo was beating this team for a half only a few days ago.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Slightly ridiculous to be talking about a team sweeping the season after two or three games. They weren't even that impressive against Buffalo. Are they good? They sure are. But other than that, lots of premature knobslobbing in here.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I'll offer even money that they don't even make it to February 1 undefeated. That's before either of their conference games against Florida.

Offer limited to $300 in total wagers.

 

[Sinn Fein]

There will be a typical letdown game. Always is. Some road game against someone like LSU which comes right after a big matchup against Florida, or UCLA on a neutral court after the UNC game.

Remember, Buffalo was beating this team for a half only a few days ago.

One thing that hedges against a let-down game, is the sheer number of players who contribute - 2-3 can have an off night, and the team can still win.

But, you pegged the two most likely candidates @LSU 3 days after @UF, and playing a mediocre UCLA squad in between UNC and Louisville. (albeit UK has a week between each of those games.)

 

[Frostillicus]

lol poll

 

[Archer]

The Cheats have no shot against Kentucky. Unless they are playing a game of "who can cheat the most"

 

[fantasycurse42]

I'll offer even money that they don't even make it to February 1 undefeated. That's before either of their conference games against Florida.

Offer limited to $300 in total wagers.

This doesn't sound like a great bet to me. I'd want odds on this. 18 games, 3 of which are against current top 10 teams. All it takes is one off night and a team that is 12-0 could easily have one of those.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I'll offer even money that they don't even make it to February 1 undefeated. That's before either of their conference games against Florida.

Offer limited to $300 in total wagers.

This doesn't sound like a great bet to me. I'd want odds on this. 18 games, 3 of which are against current top 10 teams. All it takes is one off night and a team that is 12-0 could easily have one of those.

That was kind of my point- this talk of them going undefeated here is ridiculous. Although I also had hope of pulling in a sucker until you blew it up for me <_<

I'd consider it for January 1, which would be a much more reasonable bet.

 

[Raider Nation]

Would Rex Chapman have made this UK squad?

 

[fantasycurse42]

NCAA HOOPS THREAD! Archer's kids love UNC

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Would Rex Chapman have made this UK squad?

Would have started. He was great right away as a freshman.

 

[Christo]

Boomer!

 

[Raider Nation]

Boomer!

Don't jinx them, #######! I've got $$$ on 'em.

 

[Christo]

Boomer!

Don't jinx them, #######! I've got $$$ on 'em.

What's the line?

 

[Christo]

Boomer!

Don't jinx them, #######! I've got $$$ on 'em.

What's the line?

You don't have money on them. do you?

 

[Raider Nation]

Boomer!

Don't jinx them, #######! I've got $$$ on 'em.

What's the line?

You don't have money on them. do you?

I do.

-2

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Simmons just announced a new 30 For 30. The title, and I'd like to make clear I am not making this up, is:

"I Hate Christian Laettner"

Here's the press release.

Tentative premiere date is March 15, 2015, airing on ESPN after the NCAA Tournament brackets are announced.

These shirts are pretty common around Rupp...

 

[Raider Nation]

Nice choke job, OU.

Bring back Billy Tubbs!

 

[Christo]

whoops

 

[Good Posting Judge]

UK sucks.

 

[Master of Past and Present]

Maui is usually a really fun early season tourney but field seems underpowered this year. Battle 4 Atlantis is the best field this year?

 

[Grady Wilson]

Battle for Atlantis is definitely the best tournament this year. Two of the top 5 ranked teams plus OU and UCLA. Too bad Florida is so injured otherwise they would be one of the favorites. I'm sure Wisconsin is the favorite, but I think there are four teams that have a legit chance to win it.