PlasmaDogPlasma
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Trying to decide whether Akron's Isaiah Johnson has a better chance of making it in the NBA or NFL. Dude is huge.
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NCAA HOOPS THREAD! -- K petitions to get Maui Jim Maui Invitational moved to Transylvania (1 Viewer)
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Uruk-Hai
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Yeah, I'm not sure I'd want to be the first coach in there unless Big John publicly supported me
Capella
Footballguy
I would not put him that high, but he would be a very good hire for any non-elite program. It is very uncertain that IU will be able to get an upgrade.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
John Thompson IV must be available in just a few years, right?
Also, Will Wade left VCU for LSU, and VCU promptly replaced him with a prior assistant who seems to have done well at Rice. Wade was making 1.4 (publicly) but I'm sure they would gone over 2 if necessary. LSU can obviously still pay even more, but seems like a bad career move long-term. Not a great track record for VCU coaches leaving to coach at football schools (Capel, Smart, Grant).
Also, Will Wade left VCU for LSU, and VCU promptly replaced him with a prior assistant who seems to have done well at Rice. Wade was making 1.4 (publicly) but I'm sure they would gone over 2 if necessary. LSU can obviously still pay even more, but seems like a bad career move long-term. Not a great track record for VCU coaches leaving to coach at football schools (Capel, Smart, Grant).
Captain Quinoa
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RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
JT3 and Lorenzo Romar both fired within a week or two of each other. Recruiting well and underachieving, with teams that look like they have no idea how to really play basketball, catches up with you eventually.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Both those guys will land mid-major jobs (if they still want to coach) and do well, IMO.
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
If they do well it will be because they recruit slightly better players than their peers and not because of any actual coaching.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Oh, I definitely think their names will allow them to recruit better players than your normal mid-major.RedmondLonghorn said:
I also think, in JT3's case at least (I haven't watched enough UW ball to know Romar), they WAY he coaches works better at a smaller school and without elite talent.
Eephus
Footballguy
I wouldn't categorize JT3 as a great recruiter. He hasn't been able to attract top talent to Georgetown like his predecessors were. Otto Porter has been the only Hoya drafted since 2010. Henry Sims and Chris Wright made NBA cameos.RedmondLonghorn said:
Romar recruited six players who've been drafted since 2010 and Fultz will join that crew later this year.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Thompson recruited better players than his record would suggest, which is part of the reason so many fans were frustrated. I'm not talking about whether they became good NBA players or not down the road, but how they seemed to me to be regarded when they came in (which may be another criticism of him).
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
I don't know that much about JT3's coaching style, but the few times I have watched Georgetown over the past decade or so they haven't looked like a well-coached team to me.
Romar is a UW alum, great guy and good recruiter, but an absolutely horrendous game coach and teacher. The only times he had real success he had a future NBA all-star (Brandon Roy or Isaiah Thomas) surrounded by a fairly stacked roster.
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
I don't know if I would call him a "great" recruiter either, but Georgetown has consistently had recruiting classes ranked in the Top 10-20 over his tenure and those teams have generally been out of the NCAA tourney by the second round or in the NIT.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
He kept trying to fit round pegs into square holes.
Gary Williams did this ####, too. He was so hard-headed about his "system", he wasted a couple of good Maryland squads before finally changing to fit the guys he was recruiting. JT3, IMO, NEVER did that.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
This seems like a good place to announce my scorn and contempt for Doug Gottlieb, reportedly under consideration for the Okie State job. Apologies if that has already been covered in here. Hi, Uruk.
Eephus
Footballguy
Coach's son notwithstanding, hiring a broadcaster without previous coaching experience seems like a odd move.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
He and I have been on opposite sides of the economic freedom for college athletes debate. By definition, that means his arguments and positions are convoluted and self-serving.
Eephus
Footballguy
What current coaches other than Calipari have publicly expressed support of paying players? I've heard Greg Gard commend Nigel Hayes for voicing his opinions but I think he's avoided taking a stand on the issues.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Hardly any that I can think of in the revenue sports. But, remember, I don't follow either sport hardly at all so I'm going to be pretty useless at discussing details about coaches.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Isn't he the rich kid who stole a computer at Notre Dame while he was "playing" there?
Reg Lllama of Brixton
Footballguy
What's the poop on the CSUB v George Dreck game Tuesday? Runners looking chalky?
roadkill1292
Footballguy
I think I saw a blurb about him clipping a credit card or something but I didn't pay much attention.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
I'd be happy with a coach who doesn't decide to quit over the phone a half-hour before his press conference. 
Eephus
Footballguy
It's surprising that both Cal and Okla St. stayed in-house and promoted assistant coaches to the top job. I don't know if it's a case of the programs being cheap or whether they're trying for maintain continuity to avoid current players from transferring. Butler, Wisconsin and others have been successful promoting from within but they had more recent history of success to build on.
In The Zone
Footballguy
Former Gamecock and current( now former ) assistant OKLA ST. coach Mike Boynton has been promoted to Head Coach for the Cowboys.
Congrats Mike
Congrats Mike
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I think Okla State almost had to stay inside with their former coach bailing after one year - just for some appearance of continuity.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Sounds like everyone in the world except for Steve Lavin was turning down the Cal job.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Gottlieb played one year at Notre Dame. Led the team in assists as a freshman. Transferred out.
The incident he's infamous for: Gottlieb stole three credit cards out of student rooms on his dorm floor and bought about $1,000 of merchandise with them.
Don't recall if the credit card thing triggered the transfer, or happened after he knew he was leaving.
Ended up at Oklahoma State.
With the Pokes, had a great moment at The Phog when he checked into a game with his shorts on backwards.
When he took calls on his radio show, KU fans would "secretly" identify themselves to other KU fans listening by slipping the word "backwards" into their question, a reference to the shorts incident at Allen.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Bill Self is a fairly recent convert to supporting stipends for players, like 4-5 years ago. Also supports some form of reimbursement from schools or sponsors covering family travel expenses to postseason events, like NCAA Tournament games, bowl games, College World Series and Regionals, Frozen Four, etc.
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Well-played, Cuonzo.
Michael Porter Jr. commits to Missouri after receiving release from Washington
Nation's No. 2 recruit is following his father, hired as an assistant to Cuonzo Martin, to Mizzou
Rirruto
Footballguy
That and, after their AD essentially ran off a really, really good coach, who wanted to go there? If I were an OSU guy, I'd be livid with how this situation was handled.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Oh, Doug Gottlieb has quite the history.
He was the starting point guard at Notre Dame as a freshman, but had a little problem when he stole credit cards from three kids who lived in his dorm and racked up some unauthorized charges. The kids turned him in, but after Gottlieb made full restitution to the three victims, the local DA dropped the felony charges and Notre Dame told him that he had a choice: the school would either expel him, or it would allow him to leave school and claim he was homesick. ND didn't want a scandal, you see. Of course, the affected kids didn't like this solution and went public. None of this bothered renowned ethics guru Eddie Sutton, who was only too happy to bring Gottlieb on as Oklahoma State's PG after he sat out his transfer year.
Much less well-known is the fact that Gottlieb might have failed to register for conscription with the Israel Defense Forces when he played there for a year or so after his college career. That story has been really, really well-buried, but years ago I read an article or two claiming that he may technically have committed a crime in Israel. Perhaps there's nothing to that, but I doubt that Doug will be making too many trips to Israel in the near future. I'm sure he feels that the weather is nicer in Stillwater anyway.
I'm all for rehabilitation and second chances, but the preferential treatment that Gottlieb got from ND, which probably had a lot to do with the fact that his dad was a college coach not too far away, has always irked me, particularly since it came at the expense of three other ND students.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Archie Miller signing 7-year deal with Indiana.
Rirruto
Footballguy
Home run. It looked like they were going to make at best a lateral, and probably step back, move with Alford. But I'm not sure how many coaches I would hire above Archie, considering age. K/Roy/Boeheim are all seemingly going to retire soon. I'd obviously take Self and Cal, but I'm not sure who else. His brother, Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, Shaka, Ben Howland, Bryce Drew, and Marshall would be on the list, but I think it's reasonable to rank Archie ahead of any of those guys.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Love it, great hire. Probably number 3 on my dream list behind Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan.
ETA: Behind Gregg Marshall as well but not too far. Don't think they had any realistic chance at getting any of those guys. Really glad they did not go the Alford route.
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
LOL @Don't Noonan remember this ####### UNC fan from back in December trolling you about including Oregon on the short list of title contender?
What a doosh.
What a doosh.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
I actually tried to go back and find this thread but was unsuccessful. Kuddos to you for bringing it up. Hope the Ducks can make it a competitive game with North Carolina. TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I was trying to quote one of my old posts this morning to mock myself and ended up mucking up the thing, so I deleted it and then linked to your response instead.
Two big issues will decide it IMO: Berry's health on one end (he's sprained both ankles during the tournament and he's the straw that stirs the drink for UNC's office, they've struggled with him at half-speed), and how much Brooks can take advantage of UNC's achilles heel (groan) defending big athletic 3/4 types on the other end. Two of UNC's four losses since Jan 1 have come largely at the hands of Duke's Jayson Tatum, and from what I can tell Brooks is a similar type of scorer.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Brooks is essentially the 3rd best player on his own team right now, which should definitely scare UNC. I am very much looking forward to this game and waffle back and forth on who I see winning. I think this will all come down to foul trouble for Bell. If he doesn't have to sit for fouls and just rotates based on rest, I think Oregon wins, barely. If he ends up in and out, I think UNC will get too many easy putbacks to overcome.
