Need some advice about a nosey neighbor (1 Viewer)

[CletiusMaximus]

I am fully expecting a visit from animal control today. 

If this happened to me I would insist on speaking with management at animal control. Its obvious what is happening here, so they should stop harassing you. I would definitely have a conversation with this neighbor, although I understand some folks are not comfortable with confrontation. I agree with the suggestion to make it a group conversation, including a manager from animal control.

I have never met anyone from animal control, never known anyone to call them and have no idea if we even have such a thing in my city. This entire discussion is bizarre.  I can't wrap my head around the notion that there is a problem with putting your dog on a line outside.  We do it all the time, front and back.  Our dog would much rather hang out in our yard in the grass, interacting with neighbors out walking their dogs, playing, rolling in ####.  I grew up in the country and have known a hundred farm dogs or more. They never see the inside of a house. They eat scraps - would never get dog food or treats or toys or any of that stuff our pampered dogs get.  These are the happiest dogs in the world.  The trend in my community now is for the hipsters to talk (post) about how they "rescued" their dog. These dogs have been rescued to live in a 1000sq. foot condo in the middle of a city where they get walked around the block twice a day so they can poop on a concrete sidewalk, or maybe find a patch of grass somewhere if they're lucky.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

If this happened to me I would insist on speaking with management at animal control. Its obvious what is happening here, so they should stop harassing you. I would definitely have a conversation with this neighbor, although I understand some folks are not comfortable with confrontation. I agree with the suggestion to make it a group conversation, including a manager from animal control.

I have never met anyone from animal control, never known anyone to call them and have no idea if we even have such a thing in my city. This entire discussion is bizarre.  I can't wrap my head around the notion that there is a problem with putting your dog on a line outside.  We do it all the time, front and back.  Our dog would much rather hang out in our yard in the grass, interacting with neighbors out walking their dogs, playing, rolling in ####.  I grew up in the country and have known a hundred farm dogs or more. They never see the inside of a house. They eat scraps - would never get dog food or treats or toys or any of that stuff our pampered dogs get.  These are the happiest dogs in the world.  The trend in my community now is for the hipsters to talk (post) about how they "rescued" their dog. These dogs have been rescued to live in a 1000sq. foot condo in the middle of a city where they get walked around the block twice a day so they can poop on a concrete sidewalk, or maybe find a patch of grass somewhere if they're lucky.

Group conversation with animal control present would be a good idea.  The key is some representative from animal control being present as Daisy and family going there without a buffer would be a disaster.

Agree it's funny seeing people who basically cage their dogs inside small houses complaining about dogs being outside.  For the most part a dog would much rather be outside with room to roam and interacting with nature.

 

[Mile High]

Group conversation with animal control present would be a good idea.  The key is some representative from animal control being present as Daisy and family going there without a buffer would be a disaster.

Agree it's funny seeing people who basically cage their dogs inside small houses complaining about dogs being outside.  For the most part a dog would much rather be outside with room to roam and interacting with nature.

It's obvious the issue is Daisy putting her dog on a chain. 

 

[NotSmart]

It's obvious the issue is Daisy putting her dog on a chain. 

AKA a Daisy Chain.

 

[parasaurolophus]

It's obvious the issue is Daisy putting her dog on a chain. 

Thats the issue i have with it.  Putting your dog outside all day on a chain while you are gone is cruel. It is not safe. It is inconsiderate to your neighbors. There is a reason humane societies come down so strongly on the practice.

The heat has nothing to do with it for me. Dogs are fine in the heat. 

 

[Chemical X]

Leaving a dog outside, alone, on a chain, for multiple hours is a bad look for people.  Can you obtain a small fenced dog run?  

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Putting your dog outside all day on a chain while you are gone is cruel.

Sure, we can all come up with egregious hypotheticals that have nothing to do with the topic of discussion, which is a dog owner who puts her dog outside from time to time during the day.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Leaving a dog outside, alone, on a chain, for multiple hours is a bad look for people.  Can you obtain a small fenced dog run?  

What if your dog loves hanging outside on the line?  Her dog is 14 years old.

Fenced dog runs are nice if you are in the country somewhere, but they're an eyesore, not appropriate for a nice neighborhood in the city.

 

[ChiefD]

Have you considered putting a sandwich board on the Dog?  "I'm fine, no need to Call Animal Control".

On the bottom it could say:

Eat Mor Kats

 

[msudaisy26]

Thats the issue i have with it.  Putting your dog outside all day on a chain while you are gone is cruel. It is not safe. It is inconsiderate to your neighbors. There is a reason humane societies come down so strongly on the practice.

The heat has nothing to do with it for me. Dogs are fine in the heat. 

How is it cruel?  How is it inconsiderate of the neighbors? I am seriously asking

 

[NotSmart]

How is it cruel?  How is it inconsiderate of the neighbors? I am seriously asking

For the most part, I think how you are handling your dog is fine - you've even taken extra steps like having the neighbor check up on her.

Dogs have been chained up since time immemorial, but there are a few risks with chains I believe:

• The dog can't defend itself well if attacked by another dog or predator.  My dad's dog was just chained up for just a few minutes on an outside porch and was attacked by a buck... luckily the dog had a chair to hide under.
  
• The dog could get the chain wrapped around itself... let's face it, they aren't rocket surgeons.
  
• The chain could get hung up on something and reduce the dog's range, maybe even preventing it from getting to shade or water.
  

 

[parasaurolophus]

Sure, we can all come up with egregious hypotheticals that have nothing to do with the topic of discussion, which is a dog owner who puts her dog outside from time to time during the day.

She has clearly stated that when they have to be gone for like 12 hours they leave the dog outside on a chain. 

 

[msudaisy26]

For the most part, I think how you are handling your dog is fine - you've even taken extra steps like having the neighbor check up on her.

Dogs have been chained up since time immemorial, but there are a few risks with chains I believe:

• The dog can't defend itself well if attacked by another dog or predator.  My dad's dog was just chained up for just a few minutes on an outside porch and was attacked by a buck... luckily the dog had a chair to hide under.
  
• The dog could get the chain wrapped around itself... let's face it, they aren't rocket surgeons.
  
• The chain could get hung up on something and reduce the dog's range, maybe even preventing it from getting to shade or water.
  

• In reality if an animal got into a back yard it could still corner the dog. A deer could easily jump the fence or wolf, coyote etc.
  
• fair point, but there is always going to be some risk
  
• it could, I work from home most of the time and check on the dog regularly and untangled the chain as needed. We have been at this house almost 4 years and she goes days without getting tangled. In a fenced in area their range of motion is limited as well.
  

 

[Tom Skerritt]

And now for the most important question...

Given your family allergies to dogs... if you happen upon a puppy and Hitler both hanging from a cliff about to fall to their deaths, and you can only save one of them (and you have to take them home to live with you too), would you rescue the puppy or Hitler? 

 

[CletiusMaximus]

She has clearly stated that when they have to be gone for like 12 hours they leave the dog outside on a chain. 

I think that was just the one time, and had neighbors checking on it. You accused them of being cruel for this, which is way overboard.

 

[Keith R]

How is it cruel?  How is it inconsiderate of the neighbors? I am seriously asking

https://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/reasons-you-should-never-keep-a-dog-on-a-tether-or-chain/

 

[avoiding injuries]

Electric dog fences are pretty inexpensive 

 

[parasaurolophus]

I think that was just the one time, and had neighbors checking on it. You accused them of being cruel for this, which is way overboard.

She has also said the dog spends half of the time outside. 

 

[parasaurolophus]

https://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/reasons-you-should-never-keep-a-dog-on-a-tether-or-chain/

I already gave her a link before she even asked. 

 

[Johnny Rock]

Electric dog fences are pretty inexpensive 

You can’t count on your dog being home when you return if you rely on an electric fence only.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

Can I assume that the OP is reconsidering her position in this argument?

 

[avoiding injuries]

You can’t count on your dog being home when you return if you rely on an electric fence only.

About as much as just being chained. Are you talking about someone stealing the dog?

 

[msudaisy26]

Can I assume that the OP is reconsidering her position in this argument?

What position?

 

[msudaisy26]

No calls all weekend, hooray! On a bad note though, her eye sight is much worse than I thought. We are doing a few projects around the outside of the house and she literally walked into the saw horses my husband had set up with a board on as a table and knocked the whole thing over and it almost landed on top of her. I guess she is so used to where every thing is that we figured she could still see just not as well, but the second something wasn't where it was supposed to be she took it out and almost had probably 25 lbs of wood and tools land on her.

 

[Johnny Rock]

You can’t count on your dog being home when you return if you rely on an electric fence only.

About as much as just being chained. Are you talking about someone stealing the dog?

No, not theft.  

Much, much easier to escape the invisible fence than a chain. I wouldn’t trust it as the only deterrent to running off. 

 

[NeverEnough]

Not that I know of, but everyone else keep their dogs in their houses full time. We can't. 

So their dogs piss & #### in the house? Hmm

 

[NeverEnough]

About as much as just being chained. Are you talking about someone stealing the dog?

More cases of untrained pets. smh

 

[Rattle and Hum]

No calls all weekend, hooray! On a bad note though, her eye sight is much worse than I thought. We are doing a few projects around the outside of the house and she literally walked into the saw horses my husband had set up with a board on as a table and knocked the whole thing over and it almost landed on top of her. I guess she is so used to where every thing is that we figured she could still see just not as well, but the second something wasn't where it was supposed to be she took it out and almost had probably 25 lbs of wood and tools land on her.

Are you a Rok N Roll alias by chance? This reminded me when he casually mentioned his cocaine fixes in between telling us why everyone around him was horrible. Not comparing cocaine to home projects...just seems like there would have been a way to avoid this but I can't put my finger on it. Hopefully the wood and tools are alright 

 

[msudaisy26]

Are you a Rok N Roll alias by chance? This reminded me when he casually mentioned his cocaine fixes in between telling us why everyone around him was horrible. Not comparing cocaine to home projects...just seems like there would have been a way to avoid this but I can't put my finger on it. Hopefully the wood and tools are alright 

Ummm.... what???

 

[shadyridr]

• In reality if an animal got into a back yard it could still corner the dog. A deer could easily jump the fence or wolf, coyote etc.
  
• fair point, but there is always going to be some risk
  
• it could, I work from home most of the time and check on the dog regularly and untangled the chain as needed. We have been at this house almost 4 years and she goes days without getting tangled. In a fenced in area their range of motion is limited as well.
  

You leave your dog chained for days?

 

[msudaisy26]

You leave your dog chained for days?

No. Everyday she is in the house for at least 4 to 6 hours. Plus we go outside and play with her everyday off the chain weather permitting. When the weather doesn't permit she is inside. 

 

[shadyridr]

No. Everyday she is in the house for at least 4 to 6 hours. Plus we go outside and play with her everyday off the chain weather permitting. When the weather doesn't permit she is inside. 

Ok I guess I misread. Btw I have no issues leaving a dog outside or chaining them up some times. There are a lot of crazy dog lovers out there though i see. We don't own a dog. All allergic. 

 

[shadyridr]

It does sound like you keep the dog chained up quite a bit though. That probably rubs some people the wrong way including your neighbor. 

 

[culdeus]

It does sound like you keep the dog chained up quite a bit though. That probably rubs some people the wrong way including your neighbor. 

4-6 hrs at a time is alot.

 

[xulf]

Ya...Not siding with OP.

 

[avoiding injuries]

4-6 hrs at a time is alot.

18-20 hours a day. 

 

[one time]

18-20 hours a day. 

That's how I read it too. Dog is chained in the back yard 18 to 20 hours per day. And no, I'm not a dog lover, too much responsibility, so I never took one in.

I would feel pretty bad about keeping a dog chained up 18 to 20 hours a day, but again never owned one. My feelings are just based on my generic feelings, light research, and knowing some dog owners.

 

[Rattle and Hum]

Ummm.... what???

Just seemed bizarre to me that you would share that your hubs is setting up a work station around your (seemingly) half-blind pet and how Fido almost got hurt. Especially after spending so much time convincing the readers that you are good dog owners and have his best interests at heart. The fact that he supposedly didn't take precautions with Fido to begin with is a whole different level of   to me. All just smelled of shtick to me.

Reminded me how Rok would spend days talking about trying to get his life together, how crazy everyone around him was, deflecting advice despite requesting it, and then, out of nowhere, would share his exploits with coke from the night before as if that had no impact on his inability to thrive. Was thinking (or hoping) that maybe his shtick moved to the burbs.

 

[parasaurolophus]

No. Everyday she is in the house for at least 4 to 6 hours. Plus we go outside and play with her everyday off the chain weather permitting. When the weather doesn't permit she is inside. 

Jesus christ already. Can we just get all the real details.

Goes from the first story where the dog was just outside for 1.5 hours. Then the dog is outside about half the time chained up. Now the dog is outside 18-20 hours. First the dog almost never gets tangled and now the poor thing cant see and bumps into anything that has been moved and almost got his head cut off by a spinning chop saw?

Ok maybe I made that last part up. 

 

[msudaisy26]

Just seemed bizarre to me that you would share that your hubs is setting up a work station around your (seemingly) half-blind pet and how Fido almost got hurt. Especially after spending so much time convincing the readers that you are good dog owners and have his best interests at heart. The fact that he supposedly didn't take precautions with Fido to begin with is a whole different level of   to me. All just smelled of shtick to me.

Reminded me how Rok would spend days talking about trying to get his life together, how crazy everyone around him was, deflecting advice despite requesting it, and then, out of nowhere, would share his exploits with coke from the night before as if that had no impact on his inability to thrive. Was thinking (or hoping) that maybe his shtick moved to the burbs.

It wasn't set up near her, we were all in the yard and let her off the chain to walk around and do her thing. She wandered over into the work area and ran into the table. Like I said we never realized her eye sight was that bad and normally when we left her wander the yard there is nothing in the yard to run into. She doesn't run into the cars sitting in the driveway or into the side of the house.

As far as your other connection, I believe you are seeing it, but sorry it ain't there. 

 

[msudaisy26]

Jesus christ already. Can we just get all the real details.

Goes from the first story where the dog was just outside for 1.5 hours. Then the dog is outside about half the time chained up. Now the dog is outside 18-20 hours. First the dog almost never gets tangled and now the poor thing cant see and bumps into anything that has been moved and almost got his head cut off by a spinning chop saw?

Ok maybe I made that last part up. 

It ranges. On good days she is outside almost all day. On bad weather days she is inside almost all day. It varies on the weather and the occasional days we are really busy.

 

[simey]

That's how I read it too. Dog is chained in the back yard 18 to 20 hours per day. And no, I'm not a dog lover, too much responsibility, so I never took one in.

I would feel pretty bad about keeping a dog chained up 18 to 20 hours a day, but again never owned one. My feelings are just based on my generic feelings, light research, and knowing some dog owners.

In the county I live in, you cannot keep a dog tethered unless you are outside with it.