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**New England at Green Bay** (-9.5) (40) (1 Viewer)

Didn't think I'd bother watching the whole game but Patriots been keeping it close and have a chance..
 
Belichick now 36-38 as the Patriots head coach in games where a QB not named Tom Brady started.
And? They should have been blown out given the circumstances.
Seems like a good record considering the QB change.
People tend to forget that young Brady was mostly a game manager playing with an elite defense. Folks forget his 4 game losing streak with 9 turnovers his second year as a starter and the team struggling. NE’s 2nd and 3rd title teams were stacked. Brady was very good but not the QB he turned into later back in those early years.
 
Belichick now 36-38 as the Patriots head coach in games where a QB not named Tom Brady started.
And? They should have been blown out given the circumstances.
Seems like a good record considering the QB change.
People tend to forget that young Brady was mostly a game manager playing with an elite defense. Folks forget his 4 game losing streak with 9 turnovers his second year as a starter and the team struggling. NE’s 2nd and 3rd title teams were stacked. Brady was very good but not the QB he turned into later back in those early years.
I remember it well. I traded him for a handful of magic beans in a SF league after 2 years of it.
:doh:
 
I want to go on record saying I don’t care for the lateral headed into OT

Take a knee. Protect the ball.
Does the lateral thing even work anymore?
Never. I’ve never seen one work.
first year watching football closely?

;)
Nah. it’s just very rare. I’ve seen several disasters. I’ve never seen a desperation lateral in a game I’ve watched.
Saw one in person at ODU a few years back. heartbreaking loss. Last NFL one I can remember was the Miami game 4 or 5 years back
 
Saw one in person at ODU a few years back.
It’s definitely more of a college play. I’m too lazy to research it, but I’d be willing to bet it has a higher success rate at the non-pro level. Probably a larger sample size than attempts in the pros, too
 
Saw one in person at ODU a few years back.
It’s definitely more of a college play. I’m too lazy to research it, but I’d be willing to bet it has a higher success rate at the non-pro level. Probably a larger sample size than attempts in the pros, too
It doesn’t work often . . . but it normally doesn’t hurt the offensive team either. If a team has no other hope besides scoring a TD, even if they give up a TD what difference does it make?

In this case, GB could have lost with a fumble and a defensive TD, but that is pretty rare.
 
Saw one in person at ODU a few years back.
It’s definitely more of a college play. I’m too lazy to research it, but I’d be willing to bet it has a higher success rate at the non-pro level. Probably a larger sample size than attempts in the pros, too
It doesn’t work often . . . but it normally doesn’t hurt the offensive team either. If a team has no other hope besides scoring a TD, even if they give up a TD what difference does it make?

In this case, GB could have lost with a fumble and a defensive TD, but that is pretty rare.
Yeah, but why even risk it vs OT? Makes zero sense.
 
Saw one in person at ODU a few years back.
It’s definitely more of a college play. I’m too lazy to research it, but I’d be willing to bet it has a higher success rate at the non-pro level. Probably a larger sample size than attempts in the pros, too
It doesn’t work often . . . but it normally doesn’t hurt the offensive team either. If a team has no other hope besides scoring a TD, even if they give up a TD what difference does it make?

In this case, GB could have lost with a fumble and a defensive TD, but that is pretty rare.
Yeah, but why even risk it vs OT? Makes zero sense.
To me, the play is to send people long, intentionally throw the ball short, and hope for DPI. Since there would be a penalty, GB would have gotten the yardage and an untimed play, which they could have used for a FG attempt. Not sure why teams don’t try that more.
 
This one really threw my equilibrium off the chart.
Is New England better than I thought?
Or is Green Bay a Jekyll and Hyde team this year?
 
This one really threw my equilibrium off the chart.
Is New England better than I thought?
Or is Green Bay a Jekyll and Hyde team this year?
GB has very little at WR this year. They are an average team. Also coming off an emotional road win vs Tampa/Brady. I wouldn’t put much stock in this game from a NE perspective.
When NE doesn’t turn the ball over, they should be competitive against anyone. But they don’t have much room for error against good teams. They are probably similar to last year and should end up with 8-10 wins. They don’t have the horses or the experience at QB to win games late, so they will probably be close but no cigar against playoff caliber teams.
 
This one really threw my equilibrium off the chart.
Is New England better than I thought?
Or is Green Bay a Jekyll and Hyde team this year?
GB has very little at WR this year. They are an average team. Also coming off an emotional road win vs Tampa/Brady. I wouldn’t put much stock in this game from a NE perspective.
I don't think WR is the problem with how they have played. Its obviously youth and growing pains...that they are lucky going against some depleted rosters so Doubs and Watson can be worked in...while Tonyan works back from injury. also not a help when Rodgers is as off as he was in the 1st half.

I think the other issue...is the defense that was so highly touted, is not yet there. Whether its underperforming or scheme...there is no reason they should have given up those rushing yards so easy yesterday.
 
This one really threw my equilibrium off the chart.
Is New England better than I thought?
Or is Green Bay a Jekyll and Hyde team this year?
GB has very little at WR this year. They are an average team. Also coming off an emotional road win vs Tampa/Brady. I wouldn’t put much stock in this game from a NE perspective.
I have to agree with this. I expected GB to manhandle NE and NE very nearly pulled this one out. Highly disappointed. About the only thing working with GB is their run game. This game should have been over by half time and should never have needed an extra quarter to finish.
 
This one really threw my equilibrium off the chart.
Is New England better than I thought?
Or is Green Bay a Jekyll and Hyde team this year?
GB has very little at WR this year. They are an average team. Also coming off an emotional road win vs Tampa/Brady. I wouldn’t put much stock in this game from a NE perspective.
I have to agree with this. I expected GB to manhandle NE and NE very nearly pulled this one out. Highly disappointed. About the only thing working with GB is their run game. This game should have been over by half time and should never have needed an extra quarter to finish.
Yeah. The Arod pick-6 didn’t help. That really swung the momentum and have NE a confidence boost.
 
Was I imagining things or did Romo clearly not understand the OT rules at the end of this game? Or maybe I don't understand the OT rules? Both teams had the ball in OT - one punt each - so at that point any FG is a sudden death game ending kick, right? So when Romo was going on and on about the game clock at the end, not leaving any time for NE to come back, etc. - wasn't that all completely wrong? And for that matter, why did the Packers run the clock down to 4 seconds or whatever before kicking anyway? When Dillon ran to the NE 14 yd line with just over a minute left, I was on my couch saying - kick it now! But they ran another play (risking a fumble), then called a timeout with 4 seconds left before the final kick.
 
Was I imagining things or did Romo clearly not understand the OT rules at the end of this game? Or maybe I don't understand the OT rules? Both teams had the ball in OT - one punt each - so at that point any FG is a sudden death game ending kick, right? So when Romo was going on and on about the game clock at the end, not leaving any time for NE to come back, etc. - wasn't that all completely wrong? And for that matter, why did the Packers run the clock down to 4 seconds or whatever before kicking anyway? When Dillon ran to the NE 14 yd line with just over a minute left, I was on my couch saying - kick it now! But they ran another play (risking a fumble), then called a timeout with 4 seconds left before the final kick.
If they miss it, you don't leave any time for NE to pull any desperation.
 
Was I imagining things or did Romo clearly not understand the OT rules at the end of this game? Or maybe I don't understand the OT rules? Both teams had the ball in OT - one punt each - so at that point any FG is a sudden death game ending kick, right? So when Romo was going on and on about the game clock at the end, not leaving any time for NE to come back, etc. - wasn't that all completely wrong? And for that matter, why did the Packers run the clock down to 4 seconds or whatever before kicking anyway? When Dillon ran to the NE 14 yd line with just over a minute left, I was on my couch saying - kick it now! But they ran another play (risking a fumble), then called a timeout with 4 seconds left before the final kick.
Romo was correct. If Crosby misses you don't want to leave any time for NE.
 

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