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[matt jones]

Matt Jones' second year was a pretty big letdown, but there were a few positives. He caught 41 balls for 643 yards and 4 touchdowns. His biggest improvement was his average yards per a catch; improving from 12 to 15.7. Jones also missed 2 games and was limited in other games because of a nagging hamstring injury. He also did not have the benefit of solid quarterback play, Leftwich was hit or miss and Gerrard looked to run. Next season is usually the breakout year for WR's, but what sort of play will the Jaguar's get from the QB position?

I think he's done pretty well all things considered from making the transition from QB to WR. I expect him to improve next season. I'm thinking somewhere around 60 catches 950 yards 8 TD's.

What's the concensus around here? He has a negative reputation as lazy/disinterested/soft, any truth to this? I don't think he's soft but wouldn't mind seeing him be a little more physical. He's got above average strength and size for a WR, he needs to use that more to his advantage.

 

[Z-Dog]

One mistake that Jacksonville made in terms of roster composition was failing to bring on a respected veteran with a solid work ethic into the WR corps. I guess with the way Jimmy Smith's career ended it's not entirely their fault, but I think that the development of all the JAX WRs would be better if they had a veteran mentor (I think Atlanta has the same problem).

That said, I think Matt Jones is a real talent who will continue to develop. He was a raw guy to start with, so it's quite conceivable that like other conversion jobs, he will blossom in his fourth or even fifth year. As for next year, I just don't know. The QB situation isn't settled yet.

 

[flufhed]

Matt Jones' second year was a pretty big letdown, but there were a few positives. He caught 41 balls for 643 yards and 4 touchdowns. His biggest improvement was his average yards per a catch; improving from 12 to 15.7. Jones also missed 2 games and was limited in other games because of a nagging hamstring injury. He also did not have the benefit of solid quarterback play, Leftwich was hit or miss and Gerrard looked to run. Next season is usually the breakout year for WR's, but what sort of play will the Jaguar's get from the QB position?I think he's done pretty well all things considered from making the transition from QB to WR. I expect him to improve next season. I'm thinking somewhere around 60 catches 950 yards 8 TD's.What's the concensus around here? He has a negative reputation as lazy/disinterested/soft, any truth to this? I don't think he's soft but wouldn't mind seeing him be a little more physical. He's got above average strength and size for a WR, he needs to use that more to his advantage.

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[TheFanatic]

Matt Jones' second year was a pretty big letdown, but there were a few positives. He caught 41 balls for 643 yards and 4 touchdowns. His biggest improvement was his average yards per a catch; improving from 12 to 15.7. Jones also missed 2 games and was limited in other games because of a nagging hamstring injury. He also did not have the benefit of solid quarterback play, Leftwich was hit or miss and Gerrard looked to run. Next season is usually the breakout year for WR's, but what sort of play will the Jaguar's get from the QB position?I think he's done pretty well all things considered from making the transition from QB to WR. I expect him to improve next season. I'm thinking somewhere around 60 catches 950 yards 8 TD's.What's the concensus around here? He has a negative reputation as lazy/disinterested/soft, any truth to this? I don't think he's soft but wouldn't mind seeing him be a little more physical. He's got above average strength and size for a WR, he needs to use that more to his advantage.

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[citydawg]

Matt Jones' second year was a pretty big letdown, but there were a few positives. He caught 41 balls for 643 yards and 4 touchdowns. His biggest improvement was his average yards per a catch; improving from 12 to 15.7. Jones also missed 2 games and was limited in other games because of a nagging hamstring injury. He also did not have the benefit of solid quarterback play, Leftwich was hit or miss and Gerrard looked to run. Next season is usually the breakout year for WR's, but what sort of play will the Jaguar's get from the QB position?I think he's done pretty well all things considered from making the transition from QB to WR. I expect him to improve next season. I'm thinking somewhere around 60 catches 950 yards 8 TD's.What's the concensus around here? He has a negative reputation as lazy/disinterested/soft, any truth to this? I don't think he's soft but wouldn't mind seeing him be a little more physical. He's got above average strength and size for a WR, he needs to use that more to his advantage.

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[Sea Bass]

Matt Jones' second year was a pretty big letdown, but there were a few positives. He caught 41 balls for 643 yards and 4 touchdowns. His biggest improvement was his average yards per a catch; improving from 12 to 15.7. Jones also missed 2 games and was limited in other games because of a nagging hamstring injury. He also did not have the benefit of solid quarterback play, Leftwich was hit or miss and Gerrard looked to run. Next season is usually the breakout year for WR's, but what sort of play will the Jaguar's get from the QB position?I think he's done pretty well all things considered from making the transition from QB to WR. I expect him to improve next season. I'm thinking somewhere around 60 catches 950 yards 8 TD's.What's the concensus around here? He has a negative reputation as lazy/disinterested/soft, any truth to this? I don't think he's soft but wouldn't mind seeing him be a little more physical. He's got above average strength and size for a WR, he needs to use that more to his advantage.

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Neither did you.

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[Phlash]

He'll be good.

 

[delusional]

His problem? He was a QB switched to WR and is only going into his 3rd year.

Also whose their QB?

I hope he has a good season but frankly we won't know until we see who the starting QB is.

 

[Yitbos69]

Matt Jones' second year was a pretty big letdown, but there were a few positives. He caught 41 balls for 643 yards and 4 touchdowns. His biggest improvement was his average yards per a catch; improving from 12 to 15.7. Jones also missed 2 games and was limited in other games because of a nagging hamstring injury. He also did not have the benefit of solid quarterback play, Leftwich was hit or miss and Gerrard looked to run. Next season is usually the breakout year for WR's, but what sort of play will the Jaguar's get from the QB position?I think he's done pretty well all things considered from making the transition from QB to WR. I expect him to improve next season. I'm thinking somewhere around 60 catches 950 yards 8 TD's.What's the concensus around here? He has a negative reputation as lazy/disinterested/soft, any truth to this? I don't think he's soft but wouldn't mind seeing him be a little more physical. He's got above average strength and size for a WR, he needs to use that more to his advantage.

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Neither did you.

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Or youI think that he and Reggie Williams will have a better year in 2007 if they can get some consistant play out of the QB position

 

[Warhogs]

Too many people assume that a WR will improve because they are entering their 3rd year. I think what generally happens is NFL WR at about this time figure out what it takes to become a top NFL WR and then bust their butt to improve. I believe there has been some question as to Matt Jones' work ethic. If he does not bust his butt to improve I just don't think he will get much better. I do not see Jaguars games and do not follow them so I don't know how valid any questions about his work ethic would be. If he is a hard worker the skills are their to jump up next season but if he is not one of those willing to do what it takes in the offseason I think he is sort of at his plateau.

 

[-OZ-]

I'm probably overoptiistic, but it seemed to me that he played well when not injured. I went into the season expecting some huge plays, but inconsistent performance. He started off with a couple decent games that showed he would be used in a different role than I expected, not just for big plays / TDs. Then he got injured.

From then on he was inconsistent as I expected, but the injury accounts for a lot of that. Unless you predict him to keep getting injured - which is a legit concern, he'll improve on this year's stats. I suspect he'll be over 1,000 yards and 8 TDs here on out, if healthy.

ETA: considering he's around the consensus #30 WR, he is a prime buy low right now. (except that his owners probably won't sell... so make him a "draft low")

 

[DocNiner52]

Seems to me like Jax will run the ball quite a bit with the two-headed monster of Taylor and MJD. Also, MJD has already been hyped into the stratosphere for the upcoming season. I just don't see him blowing up unless Freddy gets the injury bug again and that's always a possibility. IMO Matt Jones should have the best numbers of any of JAX receiving corps in '07. At the moment it'd be kinda hard to project his production with the question marks at the QB position. Best thing for Jones in '07 would be for either Leftwich or Garrard, if they can settle on one, to play the whole year. I'm not so sure and I don't think that the JAX braintrust is so sure that Leftwich or Garrard is the answer at QB. Heard around here Del Rio's going to clean house. I know he's done that with some of the coaching staff but will that mean the QB position as well? Also, there's a few QB's around the league that could be headed to other teams, Plummer and Carr just to name a couple. Will Jax go after any of these available QB's? Who knows. I suspect that Del Rio's HC job is somewhat shaky and he could be looking for a new job next year if the team has trouble winning in 2007.I believe the Jags have good talent andcould compete in their division if they get solid play from the quarterback.

Maurice Jones-Drew's rookie season was pretty good and no doubt IMO he should be better this year. That being said his development should also help the passing game. I don't know what kind of work ethic Matt Jones has but it seems he has the talent to be a good NFL receiver. I have no doubt he'll be the Jags top receiver this year and what that means in terms of stats we'll have to wait and see. Transitioning from QB to WR at the NFL level is gonna take a lot of effort on his part to be a top receiver. We should definitely know how good he's made the switch by 2009. If the QB postion gets stabilized during camp Jones could end up being good value in fantasy drafts and he should exceed his ADP by season's end.

 

[Scottish Revenge]

Matt Jones' second year was a pretty big letdown, but there were a few positives. He caught 41 balls for 643 yards and 4 touchdowns. His biggest improvement was his average yards per a catch; improving from 12 to 15.7. Jones also missed 2 games and was limited in other games because of a nagging hamstring injury. He also did not have the benefit of solid quarterback play, Leftwich was hit or miss and Gerrard looked to run. Next season is usually the breakout year for WR's, but what sort of play will the Jaguar's get from the QB position?I think he's done pretty well all things considered from making the transition from QB to WR. I expect him to improve next season. I'm thinking somewhere around 60 catches 950 yards 8 TD's.What's the concensus around here? He has a negative reputation as lazy/disinterested/soft, any truth to this? I don't think he's soft but wouldn't mind seeing him be a little more physical. He's got above average strength and size for a WR, he needs to use that more to his advantage.

This is good schtick.

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The shtick in question is the username, mang.

 

[JohnnyU]

I've never understood the hype with Matt Jones. He's a converted QB who is white. Sorry for playing the race card, but outside of a few white WRs in recent history, I just don't see the reason for the "Jones Hype" today.

 

[Warhogs]

It matters not that he is white. Not many QB have successfully converted to WR at the NFL level. The Falcons had one (was it Bet Emmanual??). Jones is big and fast so the questions are probably...

1 - How are his hands? (seem to be at least decent)

2- Can he create much seperation? (I am not sure how he has looked in this area)

3- How is his route running? (I'm not sure here either)

Saying you doubt he can succeed because he is white is......well, I'm not even going to go there.

 

[Restricted]

I've never understood the hype with Matt Jones. He's a converted QB who is white. Sorry for playing the race card, but outside of a few white WRs in recent history, I just don't see the reason for the "Jones Hype" today.

6'6" and blazin speed. This video got me giddy like a school girl when it first was posted.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8S8dY6IEFU

 

[JohnnyU]

I've never understood the hype with Matt Jones. He's a converted QB who is white. Sorry for playing the race card, but outside of a few white WRs in recent history, I just don't see the reason for the "Jones Hype" today.

6'6" and blazin speed. This video got me giddy like a school girl when it first was posted.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8S8dY6IEFU

Wille Gualt was also fast. While you're at it, throw Troy Williamson in there as well. Speed does not make a great WR.

 

[JohnnyU]

It matters not that he is white. Not many QB have successfully converted to WR at the NFL level. The Falcons had one (was it Bet Emmanual??). Jones is big and fast so the questions are probably...

1 - How are his hands? (seem to be at least decent)

2- Can he create much seperation? (I am not sure how he has looked in this area)

3- How is his route running? (I'm not sure here either)

Saying you doubt he can succeed because he is white is......well, I'm not even going to go there.

I didn't say he couldn't succeed because he is white (see McCaffery, and some of those guys from the 60s, 70s, and early 80s like Alworth, Biletnikoff, and Largent), but I am pointing out the odds are against him becoming a stud because of converting from QB to WR and that he is white. I didn't make it this way, but how many STUD white WRs are in the NFL? Converting from QB to WR is tough enough for anyone. Don't blame the poster.

 

[SeveredHorseHeads]

I've never understood the hype with Matt Jones. He's a converted QB who is white. Sorry for playing the race card, but outside of a few white WRs in recent history, I just don't see the reason for the "Jones Hype" today.

6'6" and blazin speed. This video got me giddy like a school girl when it first was posted.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8S8dY6IEFU

Wille Gualt was also fast. While you're at it, throw Troy Williamson in there as well. Speed does not make a great WR.

Great argument here. Sounds like you know a lot about Matt Jones. Tell us more about how he is white.

 

[Gr00vus]

Wille Gualt was also fast. While you're at it, throw Troy Williamson in there as well. Speed does not make a great WR.

Yeah, but it's a good start, and when you're dealing with a relative unknown you don't have much to go on right? I can understand the initial enthusiasm, but he hasn't really done much in 2 years, and I've definitely cooled on him. He's now in my pool of might break out but probably won't receivers.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I've never understood the hype with Matt Jones. He's a converted QB who is white. Sorry for playing the race card, but outside of a few white WRs in recent history, I just don't see the reason for the "Jones Hype" today.

6'6" and blazin speed. This video got me giddy like a school girl when it first was posted.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8S8dY6IEFU

The first thing that jumped into my mind when I saw that video is that the Jags' offensive coordinator has done a p!ss poor job of putting the ball in his hands with the opportunity to create. He's a true playmaker when he gets a little bit of space to make something happen...it's on the play-caller and system designer to give him those added opportunities. I guess that shouldn't really surprise me considering the Jags offensive playcalling the past few seasons.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I can see Matt Jones putting up much better numbers next year if:

1) The QB situation is somewhat resolved.

2) A WR is added to the roster who can stretch the field.

3) The new OC uses him, and Reggie Williams for that matter, properly. I thought they were both misused last year, but more so with Williams.

Matt Jones has excellent straight line speed, but still struggles to gain separation in his cuts. It seemed to improve last year near the end of the season. He still has a ways to go in his route running. I also think he also needs to show a little more toughness on the field. He has good hands, though.

He started to play well at the end of last season despite the sub-par play of the QB. I can't really offer any kind of averages for this stretch because there are a couple of games that he never had the opportunity to do anything ( Indy game where they ran all day and the Titans game where David Garrard completed a bunch of touchdowns to the defense).

 

[Restricted]

It matters not that he is white. Not many QB have successfully converted to WR at the NFL level. The Falcons had one (was it Bet Emmanual??). Jones is big and fast so the questions are probably...1 - How are his hands? (seem to be at least decent)2- Can he create much seperation? (I am not sure how he has looked in this area)3- How is his route running? (I'm not sure here either)Saying you doubt he can succeed because he is white is......well, I'm not even going to go there.

Hines Ward is a converted QB. Matt Jones hands looked good until the mid part of this season when he had a severe case of the drops. I remember one instance where two deflected balls by him turned into turnovers. Personally I think he's gonna be a good one.

 

[-OZ-]

It matters not that he is white. Not many QB have successfully converted to WR at the NFL level. The Falcons had one (was it Bet Emmanual??). Jones is big and fast so the questions are probably...1 - How are his hands? (seem to be at least decent)2- Can he create much seperation? (I am not sure how he has looked in this area)3- How is his route running? (I'm not sure here either)Saying you doubt he can succeed because he is white is......well, I'm not even going to go there.

Hines Ward is a converted QB. Matt Jones hands looked good until the mid part of this season when he had a severe case of the drops. I remember one instance where two deflected balls by him turned into turnovers. Personally I think he's gonna be a good one.

FWIW, in the last 6 weeks, Jones was a top 25 WR. This time includes 4 TDs, but also two games of over 100 yards and 5 receptions. Not exceptional I suppose, but perhaps a sign of things to come.

 

[softball]

Few thoughts:

He was a QB and had a QB style workout. Not a WRs workout, so his minor nicks(ankle and groin) may be as a result ofd getting into WR shape. And at this level I do beliee it would take a few years. Hines Ward was virtually non existent his rookie season as he made the transition.

The theory of the 3rd year breakout WR is not simply "they get it" or the "bust their butt" it has to do with the Route Running Tree in Pro Football, it is substancially bigger than in College. So it takes time to learn the routes, run them properly and create seperation in doing both of the first two items.

The QB situation is fine with either Garrard or Leftwich, Jones is BIG and fast. They just need to get it in the air to him.

I like him in 2007, and think he will be a classic 3rd year guy. You also won't have to overpay for him, making it even better.

 

[matt jones]

I don't get what the fact he's white has to do with anything. The guy is a freak, he's 6'6 1/2, 230 lbs? ran a 4.36 and had a 40" vertical. He was also a quarterback. He is a very rare breed, and I guess even rarer since he's white lol... I just like to see freak players succeed. Can't wait for Calvin Johnson, he IS a WR, and possibly even more atheletic than Jones although not quite as big.