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New Orleans CB's (1 Viewer)

Richc111

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Does anyone know what the situation is for the CB in NO? Right now it shows Yiadom starting and Amadi backing him up. John Norton in his IDP review said Amadi was a possible CB1 , plus he has a solid IDP year last year for NO. There is no mention at all about Yiadom even though he signed a 3 year contract in March and now they show him starting? Anyone have any insight into this at all??? Thanks in advance.
 
DB's are a dime a dozen. They are the kickers of IDP. I try not to spend too much time on them because every year there are top15 options on the waiver all year long.

Amadi had a great year but he wasn't very good (kind of the perfect storm for DB's). As you said the current depth chart shows Yiadom as the starting slot corner. McKinstry and Taylor on the outside. Amadi as the backup slot corner.
 
DB's are a dime a dozen. They are the kickers of IDP. I try not to spend too much time on them because every year there are top15 options on the waiver all year long.

Amadi had a great year but he wasn't very good (kind of the perfect storm for DB's). As you said the current depth chart shows Yiadom as the starting slot corner. McKinstry and Taylor on the outside. Amadi as the backup slot corner.
Well in our league that kicker analogy doesn't work. We start 2 CB in our league getting points for tacklers assist int pass defended . Last year Amadi was a DB2 in our league. To go from a potential CB 1 as in Mr Norton's article to a back up hurts. I mean I seen the depth chart so I seen what you said but no one seems to know anything about Yaidom, he had been a journeymen for years now.
 
DB's are a dime a dozen. They are the kickers of IDP. I try not to spend too much time on them because every year there are top15 options on the waiver all year long.

Amadi had a great year but he wasn't very good (kind of the perfect storm for DB's). As you said the current depth chart shows Yiadom as the starting slot corner. McKinstry and Taylor on the outside. Amadi as the backup slot corner.
Well in our league that kicker analogy doesn't work. We start 2 CB in our league getting points for tacklers assist int pass defended . Last year Amadi was a DB2 in our league. To go from a potential CB 1 as in Mr Norton's article to a back up hurts. I mean I seen the depth chart so I seen what you said but no one seems to know anything about Yaidom, he had been a journeymen for years now.
DB's are like kickers because there isn't much difference between them and you can always find top scorers every year. Just because you play two CB's doesn't change that.
 
DB's are a dime a dozen. They are the kickers of IDP. I try not to spend too much time on them because every year there are top15 options on the waiver all year long.

Amadi had a great year but he wasn't very good (kind of the perfect storm for DB's). As you said the current depth chart shows Yiadom as the starting slot corner. McKinstry and Taylor on the outside. Amadi as the backup slot corner.
Well in our league that kicker analogy doesn't work. We start 2 CB in our league getting points for tacklers assist int pass defended . Last year Amadi was a DB2 in our league. To go from a potential CB 1 as in Mr Norton's article to a back up hurts. I mean I seen the depth chart so I seen what you said but no one seems to know anything about Yaidom, he had been a journeymen for years now.
DB's are like kickers because there isn't much difference between them and you can always find top scorers every year. Just because you play two CB's doesn't change that.
Wow ok , sure why don't you just say you don't know anything about the players instead of commenting on the position in general . I didn't ask how do CB compare to other players in your league. but I only been running this league for over 20 years so maybe your right.
 
DB's are a dime a dozen. They are the kickers of IDP. I try not to spend too much time on them because every year there are top15 options on the waiver all year long.

Amadi had a great year but he wasn't very good (kind of the perfect storm for DB's). As you said the current depth chart shows Yiadom as the starting slot corner. McKinstry and Taylor on the outside. Amadi as the backup slot corner.
Well in our league that kicker analogy doesn't work. We start 2 CB in our league getting points for tacklers assist int pass defended . Last year Amadi was a DB2 in our league. To go from a potential CB 1 as in Mr Norton's article to a back up hurts. I mean I seen the depth chart so I seen what you said but no one seems to know anything about Yaidom, he had been a journeymen for years now.
DB's are like kickers because there isn't much difference between them and you can always find top scorers every year. Just because you play two CB's doesn't change that.
Wow ok , sure why don't you just say you don't know anything about the players instead of commenting on the position in general . I didn't ask how do CB compare to other players in your league. but I only been running this league for over 20 years so maybe your right.
No need to get personal. I took the time to talk about the position in general because I have found in my 20+ years of running a league that DB's don't matter and my time is better suited looking at other positions.

My general comment is that there is little to no info on this specific situation and I believe it would be better served seeing how the season starts and adjust from there.

It's not as important to flush out DB situations because you can always find the guys performing this year on waivers.

You may not agree and that's fine. To each their own.

Good luck this year.
 
You are both kinda right here.

Usually DB is streamable, especially CB. Starting 2 CB means we have to look a little closer than normal, but not much.

The key point here as mentioned is that Amadi is not that good. So when he is on the field he is tarwgetted which makes his IDP score substantially in excess of his playing ability.

It will take an injury to get him on the field, a but like what happened last year. Just because he finished #2 doesn't mean he is going to repeat the same volume to do it again.

I'm happy to wait for an injury and pick him up of the wire.
 
The other piece to keep in mind is that DB's (and CB's especially) are often the most productive in fantasy when they are borderline bench-worthy in real life. In other words, some (or I would even say "most") of the top CB's in FF are only that because they are targets to the opposing offense/QB on a weekly basis. If you can't stop the opposing WR from catching passes, you're going to get a lot of tackles as a CB. Meanwhile, there are usually some pretty good CB's (All-Pro even) who are barely rosterable in FF because opposing QB's just don't throw their way all that often.

Adadi is much closer to the former than the latter, basically. So, while he may be fantasy-relevant one minute, he may be not playing much the next.
 
The other piece to keep in mind is that DB's (and CB's especially) are often the most productive in fantasy when they are borderline bench-worthy in real life. In other words, some (or I would even say "most") of the top CB's in FF are only that because they are targets to the opposing offense/QB on a weekly basis. If you can't stop the opposing WR from catching passes, you're going to get a lot of tackles as a CB. Meanwhile, there are usually some pretty good CB's (All-Pro even) who are barely rosterable in FF because opposing QB's just don't throw their way all that often.

Adadi is much closer to the former than the latter, basically. So, while he may be fantasy-relevant one minute, he may be not playing much the next.

You are spot on and Amadi brings the distinct possibility of getting benched mid-game. He will be rated highly but if there is no reason given by the person ranking him, you won’t know that. He is . . . not very good and almost got benched in my semi-final last year. He was so bad he only played like 60% of the snaps. I did not use him for the final.

You always have to watch the fine line between being slightly ineffective with tackle opportunities and getting flat out benched.
 
The other piece to keep in mind is that DB's (and CB's especially) are often the most productive in fantasy when they are borderline bench-worthy in real life. In other words, some (or I would even say "most") of the top CB's in FF are only that because they are targets to the opposing offense/QB on a weekly basis. If you can't stop the opposing WR from catching passes, you're going to get a lot of tackles as a CB. Meanwhile, there are usually some pretty good CB's (All-Pro even) who are barely rosterable in FF because opposing QB's just don't throw their way all that often.

Adadi is much closer to the former than the latter, basically. So, while he may be fantasy-relevant one minute, he may be not playing much the next.
agreed some of the worst CB in the league for IDP are all pro.
 
The other piece to keep in mind is that DB's (and CB's especially) are often the most productive in fantasy when they are borderline bench-worthy in real life. In other words, some (or I would even say "most") of the top CB's in FF are only that because they are targets to the opposing offense/QB on a weekly basis. If you can't stop the opposing WR from catching passes, you're going to get a lot of tackles as a CB. Meanwhile, there are usually some pretty good CB's (All-Pro even) who are barely rosterable in FF because opposing QB's just don't throw their way all that often.

Adadi is much closer to the former than the latter, basically. So, while he may be fantasy-relevant one minute, he may be not playing much the next.

You are spot on and Amadi brings the distinct possibility of getting benched mid-game. He will be rated highly but if there is no reason given by the person ranking him, you won’t know that. He is . . . not very good and almost got benched in my semi-final last year. He was so bad he only played like 60% of the snaps. I did not use him for the final.

You always have to watch the fine line between being slightly ineffective with tackle opportunities and getting flat out benched.
I agree one thing that factors in is Mr Norton's preseason IDP review listed him as a possible CB1 . That was why I was trying to find some local knowledge.
 
You are both kinda right here.

Usually DB is streamable, especially CB. Starting 2 CB means we have to look a little closer than normal, but not much.

The key point here as mentioned is that Amadi is not that good. So when he is on the field he is tarwgetted which makes his IDP score substantially in excess of his playing ability.

It will take an injury to get him on the field, a but like what happened last year. Just because he finished #2 doesn't mean he is going to repeat the same volume to do it again.

I'm happy to wait for an injury and pick him up of the wire.
One thing that I don't get into is our league which is very different. We are a 100% keep league with salary cap. Teams just can't pick up and drop players. We have 8 team with 90! active roster spots and 30 taxi. Picking up free agents is an art and often need forward thinking.
 
The other piece to keep in mind is that DB's (and CB's especially) are often the most productive in fantasy when they are borderline bench-worthy in real life. In other words, some (or I would even say "most") of the top CB's in FF are only that because they are targets to the opposing offense/QB on a weekly basis. If you can't stop the opposing WR from catching passes, you're going to get a lot of tackles as a CB. Meanwhile, there are usually some pretty good CB's (All-Pro even) who are barely rosterable in FF because opposing QB's just don't throw their way all that often.

Adadi is much closer to the former than the latter, basically. So, while he may be fantasy-relevant one minute, he may be not playing much the next.

You are spot on and Amadi brings the distinct possibility of getting benched mid-game. He will be rated highly but if there is no reason given by the person ranking him, you won’t know that. He is . . . not very good and almost got benched in my semi-final last year. He was so bad he only played like 60% of the snaps. I did not use him for the final.

You always have to watch the fine line between being slightly ineffective with tackle opportunities and getting flat out benched.
I agree one thing that factors in is Mr Norton's preseason IDP review listed him as a possible CB1 . That was why I was trying to find some local knowledge.

Yeah, if there's no context they're assuming standard leagues. This guy was one of the worst players on the field in that abomination that New Orleans threw up in Green Bay. Check that game out. It was . . . disgusting and Amadi didn't help out in any way. He's not good. Check his history. I went over it last year in a different thread. Here's what I wrote back in March about him. I'm not a local, but I have probably put more research into this guy than even the people ranking him. I'm not kidding. They don't really know. Honestly, they're good guys, but they can't account for everything and don't really take it as hard as you will when this guy gets benched or gives you a 50% snap share. But when he is in the slot in the previous (important) coaching staff's defense he did rack up points.

New coach, same talent. If you're picking him up (and I'm not saying that you shouldn't) be wary of the risk. It's pretty high variance, to say the least. They signed him to a one-year deal this offseason. I really don't want to chase you off of him and have him blow up; I just think full disclosure is in order.



 
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