TexanFan02
Footballguy
Hmm, I think I'm beating Sidewinder, who beat Tecumseh, who beat you. So 3 games in a row, maybe I could beat you once or twice
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bostonfred
Footballguy
what are your handles/emails?Hmm, I think I'm beating Sidewinder, who beat Tecumseh, who beat you. So 3 games in a row, maybe I could beat you once or twice
TexanFan02
Footballguy
Guderian. You've played me, I'll be on your list.what are your handles/emails?Hmm, I think I'm beating Sidewinder, who beat Tecumseh, who beat you. So 3 games in a row, maybe I could beat you once or twice
The Future Champs
Footballguy
fbg - gaspumperwhat are your handles/emails?Hmm, I think I'm beating Sidewinder, who beat Tecumseh, who beat you. So 3 games in a row, maybe I could beat you once or twice
bostonfred
Footballguy
i had no idea that was either of you
bostonfred
Footballguy
First game complete. Left handed typing was difficult. I accidentally moved on the first turn so I didn't move on the second (it didn't affect game play). 11 turns.Hmm, I think I'm beating Sidewinder, who beat Tecumseh, who beat you. So 3 games in a row, maybe I could beat you once or twice
TexanFan02
Footballguy
Meh, I've got your weird 10 army neutrals game down, never played it before so it doesn't count. Plus you cheated by moving the first turn.First game complete. Left handed typing was difficult. I accidentally moved on the first turn so I didn't move on the second (it didn't affect game play). 11 turns.Hmm, I think I'm beating Sidewinder, who beat Tecumseh, who beat you. So 3 games in a row, maybe I could beat you once or twice
The Future Champs
Footballguy
guderian- post a link to first game plz
TexanFan02
Footballguy
It's not that interesting. All about placement. Get 2 territories next to each other, since you only get 5 armies per turn and all the neutrals are 10 strong. Combine the 2 territories, profit.
bostonfred
Footballguy
That's why you get three triesMeh, I've got your weird 10 army neutrals game down, never played it before so it doesn't count. Plus you cheated by moving the first turn.First game complete. Left handed typing was difficult. I accidentally moved on the first turn so I didn't move on the second (it didn't affect game play). 11 turns.Hmm, I think I'm beating Sidewinder, who beat Tecumseh, who beat you. So 3 games in a row, maybe I could beat you once or twice
bostonfred
Footballguy
Clearly a mistake playing left handed and skipping the first turn after allowing you to give a detailed scouting report. He got an ideal draw and I unfortunately did not. Well played.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
I'm off to a 1-0 start, so I'm looking forward to your next attempt at winning. It'd be a shame to get swept on your own map.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
I got an ideal draw? And you didn't? Please. You're a master of disinformation, Bfred. Set another one up if you're not too scared now that I've seen your setup.
bostonfred
Footballguy
No, I was talking about TFC. Of course I got an ideal draw against you. I knew the map. That's why I played left handed and took a turn off. I made my first attack on the third move of the game to give you a chance to catch up. I just wasn't aware of the level of collusion going on once I opened the offer up in this thread. Shameful actually.
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TexanFan02
Footballguy
Dude...No, I was talking about TFC. Of course I got an ideal draw against you. I knew the map. That's why I played left handed and took a turn off. I made my first attack on the third move of the game to give you a chance to catch up. I just wasn't aware of the level of collusion going on once I opened the offer up in this thread. Shameful actually.
And you not only took advantage of my not knowing your map, you "pretended" to make a mistake and move on the first turn. No wonder you haven't set up a rematch. Wuss.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I did set up rematches. I just set them up for the wrong guy. I created gaspumper two and three immediately, because I forgot which one of you I was playing. I couldn't figure out why you hadn't joined. And you can look back at the moves - I didn't gain a single thing by moving the first turn instead of the second. And I literally didn't attack until turn three, and you still surrendered in 11 moves, so let's not act like you were close. I thought that was more than fair as a way to make up for the fact that you didn't know the map. But if you don't, I guess you could just go ahead and pick a map you like better and beat me three straight like I'm about to do to you. In fact, just try to beat me one game where you don't make a move on turn one.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
As soon as you beat me that way, I'll take you up on it. Love the Nerd/Ego schtick, though.
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Fine, feel free to amend that with "don't attack anything on your first turn and don't move on your second turn".
bostonfred
Footballguy
I see you joined our game. I give you 20 moves until you surrender, or 25 until I eliminate you completely. Start the clock.
bostonfred
Footballguy
It appears guderian has opted for "until I eliminate you completely", but it's still looking like under 20.
bostonfred
Footballguy
17 turns to elimination with him taunting me "you wuss, you could have taken me out that turn" and "FYI, I hate you. I hope Gaspumper kicks your ###".
TexanFan02
Footballguy
I still hope Gaspumper kicks your ###. Your bloated ego needs to be deflated, but I'm not the best at one on one. Gas, Humana and Tecumseh, and I've probably forgotten others are. But stroke your epeen while you can.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
It's 0-2 for bf, the FBG tourney leader, and the fans are getting out the brooms. There's been a lot of excuses made, but as we like to say in the FFAI'm off to a 1-0 start, so I'm looking forward to your next attempt at winning. It'd be a shame to get swept on your own map.
bostonfred
Footballguy
He just beat me again. Maybe you can get me on your third try.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
Excellent... Him beating you is enough for me if it gets you to shut up about how awesome you are.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
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To drag the bottom of (a body of water).
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To win overwhelmingly in: The opposition party swept the election.
v.intr.
To clean or clear a surface with or as if with a broom or brush.
Electronics. To search for and remove eavesdropping devices.
To move swiftly with strong, steady force: The wind swept over the plain.
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To trail, as a long garment.
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n.
Just thought you'd like to know.
v.tr.
To clean or clear, as of dirt, with or as if with a broom or brush: sweep a chimney.
To clear away with or as if with a broom or brush: swept snow from the steps.
To clear (a path or space) with or as if with a broom.
To search thoroughly: The counselors swept the dormitory during the fire drill.
Electronics. To search for and remove (eavesdropping devices) from a place: swept the room for bugs.
To touch or brush lightly, as with a trailing garment: willow branches sweeping the ground.
To pass over or through a surface or medium with a continuous movement: He swept the sponge over the tile. The conductor swept her baton through the air.
To clear, drive, or convey with relentless force: The flood waters swept away everything in their path.
To wipe out at a single stroke. Often used with away: The incident in effect swept away all her dreams.
To remove or carry off with a swift brushing motion: swept the cards off the table; swept the child into his arms.
To move across or through swiftly or with great intensity: News of the lunar landing swept the country.
To pass quickly across, as when searching: His gaze swept the horizon.
To drag the bottom of (a body of water).
To win all games in (a series) or stages of (a contest): swept the World Series.
To win overwhelmingly in: The opposition party swept the election.
v.intr.
To clean or clear a surface with or as if with a broom or brush.
Electronics. To search for and remove eavesdropping devices.
To move swiftly with strong, steady force: The wind swept over the plain.
To move swiftly in a lofty manner, as if in a trailing robe: She swept by in silence.
To trail, as a long garment.
To extend gracefully, especially in a long curve: The hills sweep down to the sea.
To extend in a wide range: Searchlights swept across the sky.
n.
Just thought you'd like to know.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
Just in case that last post was too
bostonfred
Footballguy
Thank you to TFC a.k.a. Gaspumper for setting up the tournament. We used TFC's rules and map choice, and I believe we played. TFC, can you remind the viewing audience of the results of our game? And since you're running this tournament, can you give us an update on the standings? I'll help you get started. Tournament Standings1. bostonfred <-- note how position in tournament indicates that if there can, in fact, be only one, it's me.2. guy that bostonfred beat3. guy that bostonfred beat...TheFutureChamps <-- note how username indicates that you are not, in fact, the current champs
Tecumseh
Footballguy
Thank you to TFC a.k.a. Gaspumper for setting up the tournament. We used TFC's rules and map choice, and I believe we played. TFC, can you remind the viewing audience of the results of our game? And since you're running this tournament, can you give us an update on the standings? I'll help you get started. Tournament Standings
1. bostonfred <-- note how position in tournament indicates that if there can, in fact, be only one, it's me.
2. guy that bostonfred beat
3. guy that bostonfred beat
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. Guy that beat BF:
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I'm real late to the party, but I wanted to thank Addai's Adidas and everyone who posted in the thread, because otherwise I never would have checked outt his fantastic game. I've been playing it for about a week now and I think I might have even had a pretty serious dream about it.
Although I beat the singleplayer games fairly easily (with some initial trouble on the fourth one until I figured out the airlifts and doped out that you needed to help the Soviets), I really struggled with Challenge 1, finally beating it this morning after about 10-15 tries. Thank goodness, as it was taking over my life. I think I saw a few semi-boasts here that Challenge 1 was easy, but it's not. Having played it multiple times (including continuing to play even when I was clearly toast to try to learn from the experience), and having also surrendered a few times and reviewed history of completed games to get a feel for the bots' behavior, etc., I can definitively say that there is a huge luck factor. If you're near two of the AI teams to start, forget it. And where you start is absolutely huge, as some of the studs in this thread have pointed out very well. After playing through some scenarios and seeing some posters extol the virtues of an Africa or Asia start, I finally decided that starting somewhere in the U.S. was the best way for me to win. In case anyone's interested in details, I wrapped up the Western U.S., then Central America, then the Eastern U.S., while holding off one AI player who was trying to get Canada. Then I cleaned him out, and luckily no one had come past my border checkpoints in Panama and Cuba. Another AI player kept bombarding my garrison in Hawaii from Japan (attention timschochet - - historical parallel?), but I held that off. Once I had Canada secured, I easily shoved a third AI player out of South America (luckily, he wasn't too entrenched), and then maintained a 25-30 strength forward-deployed force in Hawaii and another of about 30 in Anadyr while I invaded Greenland. From there, it was just a rollicking blast as I destroyed the AI teams, eliminating all six of them. I finished with a 746-strength army in Irkutsk, crushing the last resistance. Damn, does that feel good.
Now, if another AI had been in South America and come north, or had invaded Hawaii early, I would have had no chance. And the AIs actually battled each other and were evenly spaced out, so the teammates couldn't help each other to any great effect. As I mentioned, no AI was eliminated until I got around to doing the very fun work myself, six times.
I'm pretty sure that taking the U.S. + Central America, then Canada, is a very valid pathway to beating Challenge 1. Any luck at all as far as AI placement, and soon enough you'll have a 25-army bonus every turn, 29 after you take South America.
I'm not sure if I'm going to try Challenge 2 or not. I might be ready to sign up and do some multiplayer stuff with other FBGs if people are still playing, though. Thanks again to the threadstarter and everyone - - this has been a total blast.
Although I beat the singleplayer games fairly easily (with some initial trouble on the fourth one until I figured out the airlifts and doped out that you needed to help the Soviets), I really struggled with Challenge 1, finally beating it this morning after about 10-15 tries. Thank goodness, as it was taking over my life. I think I saw a few semi-boasts here that Challenge 1 was easy, but it's not. Having played it multiple times (including continuing to play even when I was clearly toast to try to learn from the experience), and having also surrendered a few times and reviewed history of completed games to get a feel for the bots' behavior, etc., I can definitively say that there is a huge luck factor. If you're near two of the AI teams to start, forget it. And where you start is absolutely huge, as some of the studs in this thread have pointed out very well. After playing through some scenarios and seeing some posters extol the virtues of an Africa or Asia start, I finally decided that starting somewhere in the U.S. was the best way for me to win. In case anyone's interested in details, I wrapped up the Western U.S., then Central America, then the Eastern U.S., while holding off one AI player who was trying to get Canada. Then I cleaned him out, and luckily no one had come past my border checkpoints in Panama and Cuba. Another AI player kept bombarding my garrison in Hawaii from Japan (attention timschochet - - historical parallel?), but I held that off. Once I had Canada secured, I easily shoved a third AI player out of South America (luckily, he wasn't too entrenched), and then maintained a 25-30 strength forward-deployed force in Hawaii and another of about 30 in Anadyr while I invaded Greenland. From there, it was just a rollicking blast as I destroyed the AI teams, eliminating all six of them. I finished with a 746-strength army in Irkutsk, crushing the last resistance. Damn, does that feel good.
Now, if another AI had been in South America and come north, or had invaded Hawaii early, I would have had no chance. And the AIs actually battled each other and were evenly spaced out, so the teammates couldn't help each other to any great effect. As I mentioned, no AI was eliminated until I got around to doing the very fun work myself, six times.
I'm pretty sure that taking the U.S. + Central America, then Canada, is a very valid pathway to beating Challenge 1. Any luck at all as far as AI placement, and soon enough you'll have a 25-army bonus every turn, 29 after you take South America.
I'm not sure if I'm going to try Challenge 2 or not. I might be ready to sign up and do some multiplayer stuff with other FBGs if people are still playing, though. Thanks again to the threadstarter and everyone - - this has been a total blast.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
I posted some extensive info on beating challenge 2. TexasFan aka Guderian has another strategy as well. Agreed, Challenge 1 depends on placement.Join us for multiplayer. It's far more interesting than the AI. Post your handle/name here, or send one of us a pm.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Thanks! 
I'll do that in the next couple of days. I haven't even created an account over there yet.
I'll do that in the next couple of days. I haven't even created an account over there yet.
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
who's Dragons again? join game dude
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
I think he said he had a meeting to go to and would be back in a little bit.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Dragons is Dragons. He said he was going to lunch.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Well, damn. I had fatguy convinced I was smoo.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Delusions of grandeur, indeed
California
Footballguy
Post your game settings?Do you play other people's maps and rules?bostonfred said:
bostonfred
Footballguy
Somalia map, strategic 1:1 template, ten armies all territories including neutrals, let players pick 3 territories
Sure.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Totally agree
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Some serious mother####ing business in here.
bostonfred
Footballguy
This is right in your nerd wheelhouse and you know it.
Tecumseh
Footballguy
No shoes required.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
You jumped into a tournament with a bunch of players that have more experience than you, don't let it get you down.
