New York Jets (9-2) v. New England Patriots (9-2) (1 Viewer)

[pizzatyme]

Time for a Belichick mind f$%k.

Pats 27

Jets 16

Sexy Rexy won't know what hit him.

 

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I have a feeling this is going to be the type of game that fires everyone up and looks like it should be a great game, but then quickly disappoints Jets fans and Pats non-fans when the Patriots jump out to an early 24 point lead. The Jets will not be able to come back from that far behind, and the two Jets MVP's of late, Smoke and Mirrors will end up being embarrassed early and often. This one gets away from the Jets early and only goes downhill from there.Pats - 44Jets - 6

 

[AngryPatriot]

Arrington played well.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I have a feeling this is going to be the type of game that fires everyone up and looks like it should be a great game, but then quickly disappoints Jets fans and Pats non-fans when the Patriots jump out to an early 24 point lead. The Jets will not be able to come back from that far behind, and the two Jets MVP's of late, Smoke and Mirrors will end up being embarrassed early and often. This one gets away from the Jets early and only goes downhill from there.Pats - 44Jets - 6

 

[PatsFanCT]

I have a feeling this is going to be the type of game that fires everyone up and looks like it should be a great game, but then quickly disappoints Jets fans and Pats non-fans when the Patriots jump out to an early 24 point lead. The Jets will not be able to come back from that far behind, and the two Jets MVP's of late, Smoke and Mirrors will end up being embarrassed early and often. This one gets away from the Jets early and only goes downhill from there.Pats - 44Jets - 6

It seems I overestimated the Jets offense.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

thx for woody, jets.

 

[Judge Smails]

Was with a die hard Jet fan and he compared this as only slightly less than the Red Sox comeback from a 3-0 Yankee deficit. This was an uppercut to the gut, lots of gloating chowdah's around the water cooler tomorrow. Jets are done. No way you come back from that, knowing you'll have to face this team on the road again in the playoffs. Pats O-line looks like it did in the record setting year - Brady has all day to pass and he can't be stopped. SB Champs.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

influx of fresh talent should help the pats' last ranked next year --- hope there's football.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Was with a die hard Jet fan and he compared this as only slightly less than the Red Sox comeback from a 3-0 Yankee deficit. This was an uppercut to the gut, lots of gloating chowdah's around the water cooler tomorrow. Jets are done. No way you come back from that, knowing you'll have to face this team on the road again in the playoffs. Pats O-line looks like it did in the record setting year - Brady has all day to pass and he can't be stopped. SB Champs.

2nd!The road to the Super Bowl in the AFC goes through New England, and nobody in the NFC can hang with the Pats. I really like their odds.

 

[DesmondBishop]

Watching this game did remind me of how much I hate Holmes, even when they were getting destroyed he still gets up and acts like a tool after every catch. When its 30 something to 3, just get up and walk back to the huddle after a killer 12 yard catch. I Know he isn't the only guy that does it, but he seems to do it a lot.

 

[nysportsfan]

Was with a die hard Jet fan and he compared this as only slightly less than the Red Sox comeback from a 3-0 Yankee deficit. This was an uppercut to the gut, lots of gloating chowdah's around the water cooler tomorrow. Jets are done. No way you come back from that, knowing you'll have to face this team on the road again in the playoffs. Pats O-line looks like it did in the record setting year - Brady has all day to pass and he can't be stopped. SB Champs.

2nd!The road to the Super Bowl in the AFC goes through New England, and nobody in the NFC can hang with the Pats. I really like their odds.

I hear this every year. They are an awesome team, but there are teams in the NFC that will likely be able to hang by the time one of them gets to Jerry Land.Also, the upcoming Jets game will be telling. If they come out and play well, I do not believe this loss will haunt them. If they come out flat and lose to Miami, it might be all she wrote. I tend to think the Jets rebound from this but they need to address some of their weaknesses, especially at Safety. I'm not concerned yet. 9-3 is pretty damn good. Although today stings a bit, next Sunday is right around the corner.

 

[road warrior]

If I had to hear 'Game of the Year' one more time.

 

[Andrew Garda]

I have a feeling this is going to be the type of game that fires everyone up and looks like it should be a great game, but then quickly disappoints Jets fans and Pats non-fans when the Patriots jump out to an early 24 point lead. The Jets will not be able to come back from that far behind, and the two Jets MVP's of late, Smoke and Mirrors will end up being embarrassed early and often. This one gets away from the Jets early and only goes downhill from there.Pats - 44Jets - 6

It seems I overestimated the Jets offense.

And underestimated the Pats offense.

 

[Andrew Garda]

That was - bar none - one of the worst performances by a Jets team I';ve ever seen. I don't know what it is about that stadium but it reduces Sanchez to flag football levels. It's uncanny how a guy who, while shaky at times, cannot see the defense whenever he heads north. How do you not see the the defender on two of those INTs? It didn't even look like he was that pressured - he just looked lost. All the Pats needed to do was lean back and wait for the next awful throw.

I still believe Sanchez is a good Qb but wow, this one makes me wonder if it's true.

Not to take anything away from a red hot, tough Pats team. As always, you don't get handed the AFC East - you have to pry it from their cold, dead fingers. That team impresses me with how they play, even when they lack top shelf talent, they are more then the sum of their parts.

But the Jets looked awful last night in every phase and they did a lot to help the cause for the Pats. Where was the defense? Did it even realize there was a game on? I knew they couldn't afford to come out flat like they did against the Bengals - and they did and it killed them.

Hats off to the Pats. Another fine key performance by them. Jets season isn't over by any means, but they have to take a hard look in the mirror this morning and figure out how to become the team they claim they are. Tough games coming up, especially Pittsburgh. Jets needed to nut up or shut up.

 

[Phlash]

That team impresses me with how they play, even when they lack top shelf talent, they are more then the sum of their parts.

I disagree with this statement... only because the Patriots defense is actually quite talented and is filled with gifted, coachable athletes. Their issue has been that they haven't been playing UP to their level of talent - they all did yesterday and that's a scary thing.

 

[Andrew Garda]

That team impresses me with how they play, even when they lack top shelf talent, they are more then the sum of their parts.

I disagree with this statement... only because the Patriots defense is actually quite talented and is filled with gifted, coachable athletes. Their issue has been that they haven't been playing UP to their level of talent - they all did yesterday and that's a scary thing.

Well they have talent, I'd still argue it's not top shelf for the most part. But regardless, they are good.And yes, scary.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

too bad jets couldn't catch the pats in wk17 --- maybe hoyer would've been starting...........

 

[munchkin]

It's nice to have a post game discussion that doesn't involve Revis Island and Randy Moss. This is a team sport after all. Rex was off his game early with the stupid decision to attempt a long field goal into the wind; Braylon dropped passes; the punter shanks a 12 yarder; Brady found all the open receivers and the Jets vaunted Defense had no answers. To blame this loss on Sanchez is ridiculous. This was a total failure by the Jets players and coaching staff. It is one game however and we have seen teams in all sports get blown out and bounce back. As a previous poster said; the Jets have to nut up, turn off the NY media hype and get back to playing football.

We Patriots fans can savor a victory over the hated J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets longer than the team that played them. There are plenty of games yet to be played and we all hope to be playing in the big one in Dallas.

 

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While the pats have been out there beating the Jets, Steelers, Ravens and Colts.... all but one of the Jets wins have come against teams with sub .500 records. Sure, that one win was against the Pats in NY. But this is a very young Pats squad and that was week 2. I think it's pretty obvious the last few weeks that these young guys have come a long way since the start of the season.

Pretenders just got exposed.

And to think, this team has two 1st Rounders, 2 second rounders, and 2 third rounders next draft (IIRC). They're already the best team in the NFL and they're about to reload.

 

[nysportsfan]

While the pats have been out there beating the Jets, Steelers, Ravens and Colts.... all but one of the Jets wins have come against teams with sub .500 records. Sure, that one win was against the Pats in NY. But this is a very young Pats squad and that was week 2. I think it's pretty obvious the last few weeks that these young guys have come a long way since the start of the season. Pretenders just got exposed. And to think, this team has two 1st Rounders, 2 second rounders, and 2 third rounders next draft (IIRC). They're already the best team in the NFL and they're about to reload.

I think the Pats are clearly better than the Jets. I know, obvious statement. But just think back to the Pats getting trounced by the Browns, and everyone saying, "The bad defense finally caught up with them. They're too young." The next week? They bounce back and soundly beat PIT in Pittsburgh. Things change so quickly, it's always important to remain as level headed as possible unless your team is really out of it.

 

[Road Warriors]

While the pats have been out there beating the Jets, Steelers, Ravens and Colts.... all but one of the Jets wins have come against teams with sub .500 records. Sure, that one win was against the Pats in NY. But this is a very young Pats squad and that was week 2. I think it's pretty obvious the last few weeks that these young guys have come a long way since the start of the season. Pretenders just got exposed. :whoosh:And to think, this team has two 1st Rounders, 2 second rounders, and 2 third rounders next draft (IIRC). They're already the best team in the NFL and they're about to reload.

I think the Pats are clearly better than the Jets. I know, obvious statement. But just think back to the Pats getting trounced by the Browns, and everyone saying, "The bad defense finally caught up with them. They're too young." The next week? They bounce back and soundly beat PIT in Pittsburgh. Things change so quickly, it's always important to remain as level headed as possible unless your team is really out of it.

The Pats defense is very young, but there looks like a few building blocks for a return to a more dominant defense. Mayo - Spikes is as good a young ILB combo as you'll find in the league, the DBs are starting to figure out where they're supposed to be. McCourty has the look of a top flight cover corner with ball skills ( although I'd like to see him work on his tackling ), while the safeties look more in tune with the coverages called. I think the Pats whiffed on the Butler pick, and they'll need to find somebody to play the OLB position the way this defense likes to play, but to think that this is the youngest defense in the league, and they're starting to "get it" amazes me. I am thrilled that this team was able to "rebuild" an aging, slow defense without really having a dropoff. I don't think this unit will be worldbeaters, but they are beginning to show what they might become with some time and a piece or 2.

 

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Thinking about it a little more... I think that Cleveland game was simply an example of a team looking past a perceived weak opponent in the midst of a string of tough games.

No team is immune to having an off night (even the 16-0 Pats got caught off guard by the Giants that year), but I think the Pats beat Cleveland 9 times out of 10. They just got caught on an off night by a well prepared and motivated team.

 

[nysportsfan]

While the pats have been out there beating the Jets, Steelers, Ravens and Colts.... all but one of the Jets wins have come against teams with sub .500 records. Sure, that one win was against the Pats in NY. But this is a very young Pats squad and that was week 2. I think it's pretty obvious the last few weeks that these young guys have come a long way since the start of the season. Pretenders just got exposed. And to think, this team has two 1st Rounders, 2 second rounders, and 2 third rounders next draft (IIRC). They're already the best team in the NFL and they're about to reload.

I think the Pats are clearly better than the Jets. I know, obvious statement. But just think back to the Pats getting trounced by the Browns, and everyone saying, "The bad defense finally caught up with them. They're too young." The next week? They bounce back and soundly beat PIT in Pittsburgh. Things change so quickly, it's always important to remain as level headed as possible unless your team is really out of it.

The Pats defense is very young, but there looks like a few building blocks for a return to a more dominant defense. Mayo - Spikes is as good a young ILB combo as you'll find in the league, the DBs are starting to figure out where they're supposed to be. McCourty has the look of a top flight cover corner with ball skills ( although I'd like to see him work on his tackling ), while the safeties look more in tune with the coverages called. I think the Pats whiffed on the Butler pick, and they'll need to find somebody to play the OLB position the way this defense likes to play, but to think that this is the youngest defense in the league, and they're starting to "get it" amazes me. I am thrilled that this team was able to "rebuild" an aging, slow defense without really having a dropoff. I don't think this unit will be worldbeaters, but they are beginning to show what they might become with some time and a piece or 2.

I'm not disagreeing with any of what you are saying. I am only saying that the Pats defense was left for dead after a bad loss. The same is being said of the Jets. Plenty of football left, nothing is set yet.

 

[Road Warriors]

While the pats have been out there beating the Jets, Steelers, Ravens and Colts.... all but one of the Jets wins have come against teams with sub .500 records. Sure, that one win was against the Pats in NY. But this is a very young Pats squad and that was week 2. I think it's pretty obvious the last few weeks that these young guys have come a long way since the start of the season. Pretenders just got exposed. And to think, this team has two 1st Rounders, 2 second rounders, and 2 third rounders next draft (IIRC). They're already the best team in the NFL and they're about to reload.

I think the Pats are clearly better than the Jets. I know, obvious statement. But just think back to the Pats getting trounced by the Browns, and everyone saying, "The bad defense finally caught up with them. They're too young." The next week? They bounce back and soundly beat PIT in Pittsburgh. Things change so quickly, it's always important to remain as level headed as possible unless your team is really out of it.

The Pats defense is very young, but there looks like a few building blocks for a return to a more dominant defense. Mayo - Spikes is as good a young ILB combo as you'll find in the league, the DBs are starting to figure out where they're supposed to be. McCourty has the look of a top flight cover corner with ball skills ( although I'd like to see him work on his tackling ), while the safeties look more in tune with the coverages called. I think the Pats whiffed on the Butler pick, and they'll need to find somebody to play the OLB position the way this defense likes to play, but to think that this is the youngest defense in the league, and they're starting to "get it" amazes me. I am thrilled that this team was able to "rebuild" an aging, slow defense without really having a dropoff. I don't think this unit will be worldbeaters, but they are beginning to show what they might become with some time and a piece or 2.

I'm not disagreeing with any of what you are saying. I am only saying that the Pats defense was left for dead after a bad loss. The same is being said of the Jets. Plenty of football left, nothing is set yet.

I agree with that. The Jets D is still a good defense, but not as dominating as they were touted. As others have said, I think the impact of this game will be measured by how they respond in MIA next week.One thought I had related to how this game played out... The Jets D was built to stop a vertical passing game, the type NE was running at the start of the year with Moss. I'm beginning to believe that moving Moss was done because NE wanted to go back to being a matchup nightmare with a number of receiving options that can exploit a defensive weakness. This version of the NE offense forces Cromartie to cover sharper routes, where his strength is taking away vertical routes. Revis was just about invisible last night. I don't know that NE ever threw his way, but because of the number of options available, they never had to look his way. The Jets will still stop the run very well. They'll take away deep passes well, and get to the QB better than most teams. The Patriots showed last night how you can beat this defense, but there aren't many teams with as many skilled underneath receivers and with a QB that can find the mismatch and be as accurate as Brady was last night. Knowing how to overcome a defense isn't the same as being able to execute on that knowledge. I think the changes the Patriots have made to their offense this year makes them a terrible matchup for the Jets as they are currently built.

 

[Carver]

too bad jets couldn't catch the pats in wk17 --- maybe hoyer would've been starting...........

Hoyer is a beast. FWIW.

 

[nysportsfan]

I agree with that. The Jets D is still a good defense, but not as dominating as they were touted. As others have said, I think the impact of this game will be measured by how they respond in MIA next week.One thought I had related to how this game played out... The Jets D was built to stop a vertical passing game, the type NE was running at the start of the year with Moss. I'm beginning to believe that moving Moss was done because NE wanted to go back to being a matchup nightmare with a number of receiving options that can exploit a defensive weakness. This version of the NE offense forces Cromartie to cover sharper routes, where his strength is taking away vertical routes. Revis was just about invisible last night. I don't know that NE ever threw his way, but because of the number of options available, they never had to look his way. The Jets will still stop the run very well. They'll take away deep passes well, and get to the QB better than most teams. The Patriots showed last night how you can beat this defense, but there aren't many teams with as many skilled underneath receivers and with a QB that can find the mismatch and be as accurate as Brady was last night. Knowing how to overcome a defense isn't the same as being able to execute on that knowledge. I think the changes the Patriots have made to their offense this year makes them a terrible matchup for the Jets as they are currently built.

The Jets defense was exploited in nearly every way. The only thing they didn't give up was a true bomb, but Branch was close, and they had long passes anyway. The struggle of Kyle Wilson is front and center. He hasn't been very good at all, and really was drafted to cover the "underneathe" guys and be ready to step in for Cromartie afte rthis year. I am not sure what the Jets intend to do; if they want to let Cro go, they better be sure Wilson improves. The Jets lack a pass rusher, this much is obvious. THeir blitzes don't get to the QB as much as last year, and they lack the upfield rusher to get to Brady. When your defense bases their schemes on pressure, you need to apply pressure!The Pats will always be good as long as they have Brady and Belichick, two of the best ever. The Jets are not, and will not be on that level, until something changes drastically. This season is far from over, but the win last night sent the Jets reeling for a bit. But love him or hate him, Rex will get back to work immediately. He's a lunch pale (pun intended) kinda guy, he will always have the rebound mindset.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Next week is going to be very telling for the Jets. If they come out fired up and pissed off, and totally dominate the fish, then they can regain their confidence and make a season out of it. But if they struggle, or lose, it could be game over for them.

I expect a big Jets win next week.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Gotta say, it was a very respectful Jets vs. Pats game, in terms of the parking lots and inside the stadium. Both team's fans handled themselves with class, from what I saw.

One thing I don't like, and it was mentioned earlier... I'd love to hear some Jets fans perspective on this: How do you feel about LT and Holmes pumping their chests and celebrating first downs, in the midst of a thumping? I'm one of the opinion that if you're winning sure, go ahead and celebrate/trash talk/whatever. But Holmes was acting like a complete fool who had no idea what the score was, and LT looking for some open field to distance himself from the pack and stand alone in open space to pound his chest for the fans didn't sit right with me. Both of those guys were deservedly booed roundly after each individual showboating exercise, but as a Jets fan, is that cool with you? Shouldn't you at least be winning before you talk trash?

Loved Woodhead mocking them with his first down celebration though. That was pretty f-ing funny.

 

[The Ref]

Gotta say, it was a very respectful Jets vs. Pats game, in terms of the parking lots and inside the stadium. Both team's fans handled themselves with class, from what I saw.One thing I don't like, and it was mentioned earlier... I'd love to hear some Jets fans perspective on this: How do you feel about LT and Holmes pumping their chests and celebrating first downs, in the midst of a thumping? I'm one of the opinion that if you're winning sure, go ahead and celebrate/trash talk/whatever. But Holmes was acting like a complete fool who had no idea what the score was, and LT looking for some open field to distance himself from the pack and stand alone in open space to pound his chest for the fans didn't sit right with me. Both of those guys were deservedly booed roundly after each individual showboating exercise, but as a Jets fan, is that cool with you? Shouldn't you at least be winning before you talk trash?Loved Woodhead mocking them with his first down celebration though. That was pretty f-ing funny.

We had a loudmouth Jet fan in my section last night... All things considered he got off easy.

 

[The Ref]

In my mind the three best D's going are The Jets, Steelers, and Bears.

Needless to say I am very interested to see how the Pats Bears game goes this Sunday.

 

[K8!]

Some times everything that can go wrong does, and it snowballs. While I think the Patriots are superior to the Jets I do not think the score reflective of the difference between those teams. Sometimes bad things pile up, snowball, and amplify themselves. Last night was one such time. I do think, on a neutral field, the Patriots win 6 or more times out of 10 this year against the Jets, but I don't think they win 9 or 10 times, and likely not 8.

As for next year, Patriot fans have every reason to be optimistic. I would say the same for the Packers. The Patriots will have an influx of young talent through the draft. The Packers will have an incredible influx of talent coming off of I.R.

Whether the Patiots are clearly better than the Falcons, Bears, Eagles, Packers, or Giants remains to be seen. (I suspect they are, though not overwhelmingly so.) They get two of those teams yet, even before the playoffs. Each of the Bears and Packers will have to give them the best that they have. The next weeks will be interesting. As a Packer fan I happen to believe that a healthy Packer team could take them. That is neither here nor there as reality is that both teams will have to go forward as constituted, not as they might have been. Bad luck for the Packers that they will be getting the Patriots at their place, as their home record is quite impressive. (I understand that their home record has broken a record for home dominence once held by the Packers) We have already seen the Packers came up just short at Atlanta who are good at home, but not as good as the Patriots have been. My heart hopes for a win, but my head says the Patriots will handle their business at home just as Atlanta did, but perhaps, even likely, even more convincingly. Likely when that happens I will, in bitterness at a hard loss damaging to Packer playoff dreams, lash out using harsh references to incidents from the Patriot's past. Forgive me now for the sins I have yet to commit. See you Pats fans in a few weeks. In the mean time, if The Pats could help out by beating the Bears that would be great.

 

[njherdfan]

Gotta say, it was a very respectful Jets vs. Pats game, in terms of the parking lots and inside the stadium. Both team's fans handled themselves with class, from what I saw.One thing I don't like, and it was mentioned earlier... I'd love to hear some Jets fans perspective on this: How do you feel about LT and Holmes pumping their chests and celebrating first downs, in the midst of a thumping? I'm one of the opinion that if you're winning sure, go ahead and celebrate/trash talk/whatever. But Holmes was acting like a complete fool who had no idea what the score was, and LT looking for some open field to distance himself from the pack and stand alone in open space to pound his chest for the fans didn't sit right with me. Both of those guys were deservedly booed roundly after each individual showboating exercise, but as a Jets fan, is that cool with you? Shouldn't you at least be winning before you talk trash?Loved Woodhead mocking them with his first down celebration though. That was pretty f-ing funny.

You pluralized first downs for LT. I'm pretty sure he only had one I thought the celebrations were completely ridiculous. It would be one thing if the Jets were making a comeback or something, but what they did was stupid.

 

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In my mind the three best D's going are The Jets, Steelers, and Bears.Needless to say I am very interested to see how the Pats Bears game goes this Sunday.

This Jets D is too dinged up. Not among the league's elite any more IMO