MCguidance
Footballguy
As a long time Mets fan, I am pretty depressed. It's been a long haul the last few years and this year will not be any better. I expect not many people will post here, but at least it gives me a place to vent a little.
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***New York Mets 2010 Season Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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dparker713
Footballguy
Im already rooting for them to lose. And then hopefully, finally, the Wilpons will clean house in the front office. Then hire a GM that isnt a nutcase and isnt allergic to sabermetrics. Allow the GM to fill the front office. And finally, they just set a budget and walk away. Unfortunately, from all accounts the Wilpons are part of the problem.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Honestly can't believe they are going into the season with the following rotation:
1. Santana
2. Maine
3. O Perez
4. Pelfrey
5. Nieve
Hard to imagine them contending in the NL East with that rotation
1. Santana
2. Maine
3. O Perez
4. Pelfrey
5. Nieve
Hard to imagine them contending in the NL East with that rotation
Balco
Footballguy
The Mets should have been sellers this offseason, too many glaring holes. Instead they were buyers. That franchise is heading in the wrong direction. And with Minaya as GM, I think they will continue to make bad decisions. Should be concentrating on rebuilding the farm and trading away payroll, instead they sign Jason Bay to a long term big $$$ contract? That rotations is horrible outside of Santana. Wright will rebound and is a solid foundation player. But who else do they have? An aging, hurt, Carlos Beltran? Reyes' game is predicated on speed, and he had surgery to remove scar tissue from his hamstring.
dparker713
Footballguy
Not that I liked the Bay signing, but the Mets should not have been sellers. Beltran, Reyes and Santana are all at their low point as far as trade value. That only really leaves Wright as far as tradeable assets, and even his trade value would be suppressed due to his lower power output last year. What they needed to do was to forgoe players like Cora, Gary Mathews Jr and Tatis and take those sums to the international and Rule IV draft. However, reports are that the Mets dont even have a budget, the Wilpons basically have to approve all expendatures on a case by case basis, so even if Omar had saved money there he may not have gotten increased budgets in other areas.
MCguidance
Footballguy
You can't believe it? I absolutely can believe it. I actually expect it. Not believing it is more of a shock IMO.
dparker713
Footballguy
Im thinking the fans might need to take matters into their own hands to figure out a way to get rid of Jerry and Omar. Seems like the two are intent to do anything to save their worthless hides, including screwing up Mejia.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
The Mets have announced that doctors have cleared Jose Reyes to resume baseball activities.
His thyroid levels have returned to normal levels, he is his way back to Tradition Field and will hopefully be in camp tomorrow.
Might have an outside shot at Opening Day.
His thyroid levels have returned to normal levels, he is his way back to Tradition Field and will hopefully be in camp tomorrow.
Might have an outside shot at Opening Day.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
What do Mets homers think of Oliver Perez?
There doesn't seem to be any in between with this guy.
He is either pretty good or (craps) the bed.
There doesn't seem to be any in between with this guy.
He is either pretty good or (craps) the bed.
dparker713
Footballguy
He's a headcase and a waste of talent. That said he's the key to the Mets season for me this year. He's the only one on the staff that can put up No. 2 starter numbers, excluding Johan of course. Basically, big upside, bigger downside. He's worth a late flier IMO as the park should help him and he appears healthy at this point. He'll never be consistent, but he's a potential matchups play.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Jenry Mejia is just flat out filthy.
With that said the Mets are going to ruin/joba him by making him a MR to start the season - BIG mistake IMO.
With that said the Mets are going to ruin/joba him by making him a MR to start the season - BIG mistake IMO.
dparker713
Footballguy
Opening Day lineup
1. SS Alex Cora
2. 2B Luis Castillo
3. 3B David Wright
4. 1B Mike Jacobs
5. LF Jason Bay
6. CF Gary Matthews, JR.
7. RF Jeff Francoeur
8. C Rod Barajas
9. SP Johan Santana
1. SS Alex Cora
2. 2B Luis Castillo
3. 3B David Wright
4. 1B Mike Jacobs
5. LF Jason Bay
6. CF Gary Matthews, JR.
7. RF Jeff Francoeur
8. C Rod Barajas
9. SP Johan Santana
shadyridr
Footballguy
Is he supposed to be a starter? if so I hope for your sake they dont Joba him. Very sad indeed.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Absolutely disgusting lineup but DW is back.
2 run HR off of Josh Johnson. WOOT
2 run HR off of Josh Johnson. WOOT
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
The front office and manager is a joke.And Jacobs goes down swinging in a rather ugly fashion. Shocker.
RBM
Footballguy
Wanted to vomit when I saw the lineup pregame.By the 9th I was ready to order World Series tixOpening Day lineup1. SS Alex Cora2. 2B Luis Castillo3. 3B David Wright4. 1B Mike Jacobs5. LF Jason Bay6. CF Gary Matthews, JR.7. RF Jeff Francoeur8. C Rod Barajas9. SP Johan Santana
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Nice to see Wright go yard and get that out of the way.
Bay is going to fit in quite nicely.
Still think Mejia should be starting games in AAA right now.
NOT looking forward to the Mets having to deal with Heyward for the next 10-15 years.
Bay is going to fit in quite nicely.
Still think Mejia should be starting games in AAA right now.
NOT looking forward to the Mets having to deal with Heyward for the next 10-15 years.
dparker713
Footballguy
Fixed
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
He's probably going to be a great player but let's not put him in the HoF yet. Dude looks pretty awful at the plate right now. K'd 4 times last night and Marmol made him look terrible the night before on three straight sliders.Welcome to the big leagues, kid.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
No idea but I'll take it.I have to say that I've been REALLY impressed with Frenchy's ABs so far this year. He actually seems like he has an approach that doesn't involve swinging at everything thrown up there.Barajas swings for the downs with every swing so he's going to hit some bombs.Reyes being back today should be exciting bit I'm not really looking forward to seeing Ollie on the hill.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Just thinking about that makes me moist.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Silly Mets fans. Pitching wins championships.
Chemical X
Footballguy
as a long time met fan, i can't really express how disappointing this regime is and how the mets continually get everything wrong.
they build a new ballpark and celebrate the dodgers heritage, a team that still exists and moved from brooklyn 60 years ago.
the ballpark is brutally overpriced and dimensionally absurd in today's game.
the roster is littered with 30+ year old and retreads, though the GM stressed speed, defense and youth when he was hired.
well, he didn't stress much, cause he really didn't have a plan.
from the medical staff, to scouting, to ownership, all the way up, this team just doesn't get it.
i wont even discuss the awful contracts......well, how about julio franco, oliver perez, luis castillo, see a trend?
a platoon of tatis & jacobs at 1b? in a league that employs, pujols, howard, a gonzalez, to name a few.
losing 4 of 6 at home to florida and washington reveals the inevitable.......this is a 95 loss team at best.
no way will i spend money on tickets or a flight to see this mess unless a real committment to a baseball man is made.
they build a new ballpark and celebrate the dodgers heritage, a team that still exists and moved from brooklyn 60 years ago.
the ballpark is brutally overpriced and dimensionally absurd in today's game.
the roster is littered with 30+ year old and retreads, though the GM stressed speed, defense and youth when he was hired.
well, he didn't stress much, cause he really didn't have a plan.
from the medical staff, to scouting, to ownership, all the way up, this team just doesn't get it.
i wont even discuss the awful contracts......well, how about julio franco, oliver perez, luis castillo, see a trend?
a platoon of tatis & jacobs at 1b? in a league that employs, pujols, howard, a gonzalez, to name a few.
losing 4 of 6 at home to florida and washington reveals the inevitable.......this is a 95 loss team at best.
no way will i spend money on tickets or a flight to see this mess unless a real committment to a baseball man is made.
RBM
Footballguy
as a long time met fan, i can't really express how disappointing this regime is and how the mets continually get everything wrong.they build a new ballpark and celebrate the dodgers heritage, a team that still exists and moved from brooklyn 60 years ago.the ballpark is brutally overpriced and dimensionally absurd in today's game.the roster is littered with 30+ year old and retreads, though the GM stressed speed, defense and youth when he was hired.well, he didn't stress much, cause he really didn't have a plan.from the medical staff, to scouting, to ownership, all the way up, this team just doesn't get it.i wont even discuss the awful contracts......well, how about julio franco, oliver perez, luis castillo, see a trend?a platoon of tatis & jacobs at 1b? in a league that employs, pujols, howard, a gonzalez, to name a few.losing 4 of 6 at home to florida and washington reveals the inevitable.......this is a 95 loss team at best.no way will i spend money on tickets or a flight to see this mess unless a real committment to a baseball man is made.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Pitching and hitting wins championships. And defense. Hope that helps.The Mets have none of the three.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I hope Manuel ain't buying any green bananas.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
2009 World SeriesYankess OPS: .725Phillies OPS: .782dparker713
Footballguy
How long until Jerry and Omar get fired? End of the month for Jerry?
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
2009 World SeriesYankess OPS: .725Phillies OPS: .782
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Probably.He's just terrible at game management and when you're lose close games those poor decisions are really glaring.dparker713 said:
dparker713
Footballguy
So glad they decided to keep Mejia up to blow games and mop up, rather than leaving him in the minors to actually maybe develop into a good pitcher.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Time to make a list of boneheaded moves that Jerry has made this year:
1. Taking Mejia north instead of being a starter in AA.
2. Keeping Jacobs & Catalanotto over Chris Carter
3. Batting Jacobs 4th for two games
4. Starting GMJ over Pagan
5. Pinch running Tatis for Jacobs and then pinch hitting Cora for the pitcher in tie game rather than the reverse
6. Using Mejia in a tie game rather than a well rested K-Rod
7. Cutting Figueroa loose with such a brittle starting rotation rather than sending Sean Green (who has options) down and who eventually ended up on the DL anyway
Feel free to add to the list.
1. Taking Mejia north instead of being a starter in AA.
2. Keeping Jacobs & Catalanotto over Chris Carter
3. Batting Jacobs 4th for two games
4. Starting GMJ over Pagan
5. Pinch running Tatis for Jacobs and then pinch hitting Cora for the pitcher in tie game rather than the reverse
6. Using Mejia in a tie game rather than a well rested K-Rod
7. Cutting Figueroa loose with such a brittle starting rotation rather than sending Sean Green (who has options) down and who eventually ended up on the DL anyway
Feel free to add to the list.
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Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Note: I'm sure Omar had a hand in a few of the personnel moves but since they apparently deferred to Jerry on the decision to keep Mejia on the team I'm assuming these were his calls.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I don't understand why they didn't give Ike Davis the 1B job right out of spring training.He's a stud. What's the point in waiting considering the dreck in front of him?
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Sad
Starting pitchers are an absolute mess.
There is no hope.
All we have is a countdown to the day Omar & Jerry are fired. Might as well start talking about replacements.
Have the "We want Bobby V" chants started at Citifield yet?
Starting pitchers are an absolute mess.
There is no hope.
All we have is a countdown to the day Omar & Jerry are fired. Might as well start talking about replacements.
Have the "We want Bobby V" chants started at Citifield yet?
dparker713
Footballguy
That stud strikes out too much and cant hit left handers. He belongs in the minors right now.
Eephus
Footballguy
The Mets aren't going to contend this year anyway. Davis isn't ready for the majors yet and it's debatable whether he's a stud to begin with. If he isn't an A prospect, he's better off getting some seasoning. If he is, they're better off delaying the start of his arbitration clock.dparker713
Footballguy
Chris Carter on the other hand...The Mets aren't going to contend this year anyway. Davis isn't ready for the majors yet and it's debatable whether he's a stud to begin with. If he isn't an A prospect, he's better off getting some seasoning. If he is, they're better off delaying the start of his arbitration clock.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Davis needs to be in AAA for at least a few months assuming he continues to perform. I'm fine with him in AAA for now. If his first year hadn't been so horrid I may be on the bring him up now bandwagon but it was.
He needs the time.
He needs the time.
dparker713
Footballguy
8. Giving KRod work in mop up duty to close out games so that he gets closer to his vesting option.
dparker713
Footballguy
9. I'll only pick one from yesterday. Bunting in the top of the 19th against a position player pitcher that couldn't find the strike zone, and was throwing BP fastballs.dparker713 said:
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Frank Catalanotto hitting clean-up tonight. What a mess.
