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Oh- just walked North a bit today since it's so nice out and in the mood to hunt for something else to eat for lunch. Walked up Madison past the bank. and that bank. and that bank. and that bank. and a Starbucks. and a bank. Made a left down 44th or 45th... pretty much nothing (a couple of little-bit-o-everything deli-bar places) all the way to 6th. Headed South... and ended up grabbing a salad form Kayser.

There has to be something up there above 42nd between Mad and 6th?

Did watch a bit of Broadway in Bryant- every thursday they havea broadway show do songs on stage. It was Revolution today (never heard of it)... 80s style heavy-metal-lite.
Between 5th and 6th north of 42nd has plenty of options. Between 5th and Park is nil.
fer instance? looking forward to something different
Flop - have you tried Le Bernadin for lunch? Pretty good three course deal going.

 
Sounds like the fascist pigs NYPD will be hitting their quota this month.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
I totally support this. Way to many bike riders totally ignore the traffic laws that apply to them. I fully support all the things the City has done to support and encourage bike riders (bike lanes, Citi bike, etc...) however many bike riders don't follow the traffic laws, which apply to them. Most annoying to me is not stopping at traffic lights. The other day some rider nearly mowed me and my three kids down going through a traffic light and then proceeded to yell at me. That type of #### needs to stop and bickers should be ticketed for it.

 
Sounds like the fascist pigs NYPD will be hitting their quota this month.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
It's a good thing, IMO.

Bike lanes have kinda/sorta started to sort themselves out lately with all involved becoming more aware of how to navigate with each other, but there are still people who ruin it. I think some police enforcement will force everybody to be even more aware.

Cyclists going the wrong way are at the top of the wrong-scale, IMO. Then, in order: pedestrians popping out into the bike lane midblock; pedestrians walking in the bike lane; cars blocking the lane; cyclists running lights without concern for peds/bikes/cars going with the green; cyclists riding like #######s (headphones/unaware, zig-zagging so nobody can pass them); cyclists who ride in the middle of the lane, not allowing people to pass; cyclists who stop and wait for the light in the crosswalk and block pedestrians from crossing. There are many others...

I wonder though- is it illegal to walk in the bike lane? Will people get ticketed for that?

I've said repeated that my plan as a bike-commuter is that when I break the law (running red lights- I never go the wrong way), my actions should never adversely affect anybody following the rules. If a pedestrian, cyclist or car has to change what they're doing in any way (braking, stopping, swerving, etc), I've done it all wrong.

eta: I should note that my "wrong-scale" is purely from a biker's perspective.

 
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Sounds like the fascist pigs NYPD will be hitting their quota this month.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
I totally support this. Way to many bike riders totally ignore the traffic laws that apply to them. I fully support all the things the City has done to support and encourage bike riders (bike lanes, Citi bike, etc...) however many bike riders don't follow the traffic laws, which apply to them. Most annoying to me is not stopping at traffic lights. The other day some rider nearly mowed me and my three kids down going through a traffic light and then proceeded to yell at me. That type of #### needs to stop and bickers should be ticketed for it.
Totally agree.

that said, as I just posted- I don't stop at a lot of red lights. Are you in the camp that all bikes should follow all rules all the time, regardless of what's around them? (ie: stop at every red light, even if there's nobody crossing in front of them?)

 
I personally don't care as long as you going through the red light isn't messing with any people crossing (which it shouldn't, based on your previous post).

 
El Floppo said:
Redwes25 said:
BobbyLayne said:
Sounds like the fascist pigs NYPD will be hitting their quota this month.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
I totally support this. Way to many bike riders totally ignore the traffic laws that apply to them. I fully support all the things the City has done to support and encourage bike riders (bike lanes, Citi bike, etc...) however many bike riders don't follow the traffic laws, which apply to them. Most annoying to me is not stopping at traffic lights. The other day some rider nearly mowed me and my three kids down going through a traffic light and then proceeded to yell at me. That type of #### needs to stop and bickers should be ticketed for it.
Totally agree.

that said, as I just posted- I don't stop at a lot of red lights. Are you in the camp that all bikes should follow all rules all the time, regardless of what's around them? (ie: stop at every red light, even if there's nobody crossing in front of them?)
Yes, because it is dangerous and the law. Are you ok with Cars going through a red light if no one is around?

 
El Floppo said:
Redwes25 said:
BobbyLayne said:
Sounds like the fascist pigs NYPD will be hitting their quota this month.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
I totally support this. Way to many bike riders totally ignore the traffic laws that apply to them. I fully support all the things the City has done to support and encourage bike riders (bike lanes, Citi bike, etc...) however many bike riders don't follow the traffic laws, which apply to them. Most annoying to me is not stopping at traffic lights. The other day some rider nearly mowed me and my three kids down going through a traffic light and then proceeded to yell at me. That type of #### needs to stop and bickers should be ticketed for it.
Totally agree.

that said, as I just posted- I don't stop at a lot of red lights. Are you in the camp that all bikes should follow all rules all the time, regardless of what's around them? (ie: stop at every red light, even if there's nobody crossing in front of them?)
Yes, because it is dangerous and the law. Are you ok with Cars going through a red light if no one is around?
not the same.... so no, I'm not.

I'm also ok with pedestrians jay walking.

 
El Floppo said:
Redwes25 said:
BobbyLayne said:
Sounds like the fascist pigs NYPD will be hitting their quota this month.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
I totally support this. Way to many bike riders totally ignore the traffic laws that apply to them. I fully support all the things the City has done to support and encourage bike riders (bike lanes, Citi bike, etc...) however many bike riders don't follow the traffic laws, which apply to them. Most annoying to me is not stopping at traffic lights. The other day some rider nearly mowed me and my three kids down going through a traffic light and then proceeded to yell at me. That type of #### needs to stop and bickers should be ticketed for it.
Totally agree.

that said, as I just posted- I don't stop at a lot of red lights. Are you in the camp that all bikes should follow all rules all the time, regardless of what's around them? (ie: stop at every red light, even if there's nobody crossing in front of them?)
Yes, because it is dangerous and the law. Are you ok with Cars going through a red light if no one is around?
Do you cross when no cars are coming, even if you don't have the walk signal? Of course you do.

 
El Floppo said:
Redwes25 said:
BobbyLayne said:
Sounds like the fascist pigs NYPD will be hitting their quota this month.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
I totally support this. Way to many bike riders totally ignore the traffic laws that apply to them. I fully support all the things the City has done to support and encourage bike riders (bike lanes, Citi bike, etc...) however many bike riders don't follow the traffic laws, which apply to them. Most annoying to me is not stopping at traffic lights. The other day some rider nearly mowed me and my three kids down going through a traffic light and then proceeded to yell at me. That type of #### needs to stop and bickers should be ticketed for it.
Totally agree.

that said, as I just posted- I don't stop at a lot of red lights. Are you in the camp that all bikes should follow all rules all the time, regardless of what's around them? (ie: stop at every red light, even if there's nobody crossing in front of them?)
Yes, because it is dangerous and the law. Are you ok with Cars going through a red light if no one is around?
Do you cross when no cars are coming, even if you don't have the walk signal? Of course you do.
ok, fair point. Guess I am just so sick of bikers going through lights when cross walk is being used.

 
El Floppo said:
Redwes25 said:
BobbyLayne said:
Sounds like the fascist pigs NYPD will be hitting their quota this month.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
I totally support this. Way to many bike riders totally ignore the traffic laws that apply to them. I fully support all the things the City has done to support and encourage bike riders (bike lanes, Citi bike, etc...) however many bike riders don't follow the traffic laws, which apply to them. Most annoying to me is not stopping at traffic lights. The other day some rider nearly mowed me and my three kids down going through a traffic light and then proceeded to yell at me. That type of #### needs to stop and bickers should be ticketed for it.
Totally agree.

that said, as I just posted- I don't stop at a lot of red lights. Are you in the camp that all bikes should follow all rules all the time, regardless of what's around them? (ie: stop at every red light, even if there's nobody crossing in front of them?)
Yes, because it is dangerous and the law. Are you ok with Cars going through a red light if no one is around?
Do you cross when no cars are coming, even if you don't have the walk signal? Of course you do.
ok, fair point. Guess I am just so sick of bikers going through lights when cross walk is being used.
It's a fair point, but I agree with you- if the crosswalk is being used, bikers shouldn't be going through the light... or should be yielding their asses off if they do. That was the point I was making earlier.

And as I think more about if I care if a car does something when nobody's around... if there's really nobody around and what they're doing doesn't adversely affect anybody- no, I don't really care what they do.

 
I'm a recreational CitiBike user. I bought & then renewed with the intention of commuting but being lazy I usually take the crosstown bus 4 avenues or grab a crab if it's not RIGHT THERE. I salmon if it's a 1/2 block to the nearest station. Roll through (slowly/carefully) lights. Bought but never use a helmut. Super conscious of pedestrians - I hate aggressive bikers - but all bets are off on East River bridges.

 
I'm a recreational CitiBike user. I bought & then renewed with the intention of commuting but being lazy I usually take the crosstown bus 4 avenues or grab a crab if it's not RIGHT THERE. I salmon if it's a 1/2 block to the nearest station. Roll through (slowly/carefully) lights. Bought but never use a helmut. Super conscious of pedestrians - I hate aggressive bikers - but all bets are off on East River bridges.
how about passive-aggressive bikers :hi:

 
Of course, the most obnoxious folks are the group that YOU don't belong to. It's only natural. I have been all three, driver, cyclist, and pedestrian, and I gotta tell ya, they can all behave badly. There are fewer cyclists than either drivers or walkers, so maybe they just stand out more when they act like fools. It's not even close, pedestrians are the worst. Any busy intersection, there is never not at least one person doing something stupid. Standing in the bike path, or standing three steps off the sidewalk when they don't have the right of way, greatly endangering themselves and others. Or dashing across the street as the don't walk sign counts down. Oh, and the phone!! Drivers and cyclists aren't the ones that can't put the phone down, that's pedestrians.

Drivers are rude, and will block the box for no reason, but they don't do the dumb stuff you see people on foot do. The biggest problem I see are drivers sitting in the middle of the avenue, blocking an entire street from crossing. So dumb. They literally gain nothing, just wind up waiting at the next light.

They have more penalties when they behave badly, and traffic actually prohibits them from a lot of dangerous situations. Cabbies are much worse, especially late at night, but mostly only to other drivers.

But there are no penalties for stupid walking. Jay-walking? No one's afraid of that.

 
Of course, the most obnoxious folks are the group that YOU don't belong to. It's only natural. I have been all three, driver, cyclist, and pedestrian, and I gotta tell ya, they can all behave badly. There are fewer cyclists than either drivers or walkers, so maybe they just stand out more when they act like fools. It's not even close, pedestrians are the worst. Any busy intersection, there is never not at least one person doing something stupid. Standing in the bike path, or standing three steps off the sidewalk when they don't have the right of way, greatly endangering themselves and others. Or dashing across the street as the don't walk sign counts down. Oh, and the phone!! Drivers and cyclists aren't the ones that can't put the phone down, that's pedestrians.

Drivers are rude, and will block the box for no reason, but they don't do the dumb stuff you see people on foot do. The biggest problem I see are drivers sitting in the middle of the avenue, blocking an entire street from crossing. So dumb. They literally gain nothing, just wind up waiting at the next light.

They have more penalties when they behave badly, and traffic actually prohibits them from a lot of dangerous situations. Cabbies are much worse, especially late at night, but mostly only to other drivers.

But there are no penalties for stupid walking. Jay-walking? No one's afraid of that.
The problem with cyclists is they are not restricted to just the sidewalk or street--they're ##### everywhere.

 
Of course, the most obnoxious folks are the group that YOU don't belong to. It's only natural. I have been all three, driver, cyclist, and pedestrian, and I gotta tell ya, they can all behave badly. There are fewer cyclists than either drivers or walkers, so maybe they just stand out more when they act like fools. It's not even close, pedestrians are the worst. Any busy intersection, there is never not at least one person doing something stupid. Standing in the bike path, or standing three steps off the sidewalk when they don't have the right of way, greatly endangering themselves and others. Or dashing across the street as the don't walk sign counts down. Oh, and the phone!! Drivers and cyclists aren't the ones that can't put the phone down, that's pedestrians.

Drivers are rude, and will block the box for no reason, but they don't do the dumb stuff you see people on foot do. The biggest problem I see are drivers sitting in the middle of the avenue, blocking an entire street from crossing. So dumb. They literally gain nothing, just wind up waiting at the next light.

They have more penalties when they behave badly, and traffic actually prohibits them from a lot of dangerous situations. Cabbies are much worse, especially late at night, but mostly only to other drivers.

But there are no penalties for stupid walking. Jay-walking? No one's afraid of that.
The problem with cyclists is they are not restricted to just the sidewalk or street--they're ##### everywhere.
illegal on the sidewalks... and pretty rare here.

the worse drivers I've seen are the Ferry Buses (west side) who are oblivious to the fact that they're driving something larger than a Gremlin. Ride up on sidewalks, drive by cars and bikes and then make a turn in front of them, run lights... the worst. They make garbage truck drivers look good- at least those guys know what they're doing, they just don't give a ####.

 
I've never met a bike messenger who followed the law.
restaurant delivery guys are the only ones who ride on sidewalks here... rarely. oh.. and weekend citibikers who are terrified to ride ont he streets. messengers are all over the place, but very rarely on sidewalks.

 
So my wife is crossing Delancey this morning pushing my daughter in the stroller- a car flies through the left turn onto Delancey and hits the stroller, almost knocking it over. The car then takes off, leaving my wife freaked out and screaming. She managed to take down a few digits of the license plate and take a blurry photo of the car with her phone. She calls the cops- who are at first very dismissive ("you don't have all the digits of the license plate? oh... we can't even file a report then") until EMS gets there and they see that this is a serious thing.

Thank god, Wife is ok, daughter is ok and even the stroller is ok. ####### people. I'm hoping that real life can imitate art here and somebody can use their infinite CSI/Law and Order computer zoom/focus to get the license plate and bust this #######.

 
I've lived in NYC for several years now and I would say my top two pet peeves are the bikes and the garbage. Dirtbag landlords and real estate agents are next. Rounding out the list would be cabbies and slow moving groups of camera-toting tourists that block the sidewalks.

 
Best Thursday happy hour spot in Union Square area? Preference is 1) eye candy 2) quality beer selection 3) price.

Or really just 1)

 
Best Thursday happy hour spot in Union Square area? Preference is 1) eye candy 2) quality beer selection 3) price.

Or really just 1)
Lilly's isn't bad on 17th street.

You want to troop a few blocks west, Standard Beer Garden.

 
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Carrying over the great umbrella debate of 2014 with Floppo into this thread to get a more local perspective.

I assume everyone in NYC has umbrella. Do you have a large umbrella? Maybe one of those double flap windproof umbrellas? Or is it a smaller totes kinda umbrella?

Do you find large umbrellas annoying when others have them?

 
Carrying over the great umbrella debate of 2014 with Floppo into this thread to get a more local perspective.

I assume everyone in NYC has umbrella. Do you have a large umbrella? Maybe one of those double flap windproof umbrellas? Or is it a smaller totes kinda umbrella?

Do you find large umbrellas annoying when others have them?
Yes, the oversized are inconsiderate to people around you. I use a small totes kind. I can deal with my lower half getting a little wet. Just trying to avoid my head and upper body from getting soaked.

 
Carrying over the great umbrella debate of 2014 with Floppo into this thread to get a more local perspective.

I assume everyone in NYC has umbrella. Do you have a large umbrella? Maybe one of those double flap windproof umbrellas? Or is it a smaller totes kinda umbrella?

Do you find large umbrellas annoying when others have them?
Yes, the oversized are inconsiderate to people around you. I use a small totes kind. I can deal with my lower half getting a little wet. Just trying to avoid my head and upper body from getting soaked.
If I'm 6'2 and lift it up high with respect to others around, how can this really bother 98% of the population?

 
Carrying over the great umbrella debate of 2014 with Floppo into this thread to get a more local perspective.

I assume everyone in NYC has umbrella. Do you have a large umbrella? Maybe one of those double flap windproof umbrellas? Or is it a smaller totes kinda umbrella?

Do you find large umbrellas annoying when others have them?
I always assume those are Jersey/LI schmucks who commute in and grab their golf umbrella on their way to the train station. These are the same have been telling all their friends for years "I'm only xx minutes from the city if we ever want to go to dinner or a show" - something they never do, but it's still true amiright.

Totes or $3 disposable is the only acceptable umbrella. Don't be that guy.

 
Carrying over the great umbrella debate of 2014 with Floppo into this thread to get a more local perspective.

I assume everyone in NYC has umbrella. Do you have a large umbrella? Maybe one of those double flap windproof umbrellas? Or is it a smaller totes kinda umbrella?

Do you find large umbrellas annoying when others have them?
I always assume those are Jersey/LI schmucks who commute in and grab their golf umbrella on their way to the train station. These are the same have been telling all their friends for years "I'm only xx minutes from the city if we ever want to go to dinner or a show" - something they never do, but it's still true amiright.

Totes or $3 disposable is the only acceptable umbrella. Don't be that guy.
The $3 disposable can break at anytime... I haven't used one of those in at least 4-5 years. Way too unreliable!

 
Carrying over the great umbrella debate of 2014 with Floppo into this thread to get a more local perspective.

I assume everyone in NYC has umbrella. Do you have a large umbrella? Maybe one of those double flap windproof umbrellas? Or is it a smaller totes kinda umbrella?

Do you find large umbrellas annoying when others have them?
Yes, the oversized are inconsiderate to people around you. I use a small totes kind. I can deal with my lower half getting a little wet. Just trying to avoid my head and upper body from getting soaked.
If I'm 6'2 and lift it up high with respect to others around, how can this really bother 98% of the population?
so #### the 2%, amirite Occupy NY?

 
:lol:

Completely unsurprising FC42 is that guy.

Just move to Dix Hills already.
Love to leave the city!!! My wife just doesn't want to go... She has been doing HW on public schools and is figuring out we are zoned to a top school, makes my argument even more difficult.
which school- that one in Park Slope?
Think he's in the Heights. 321 is over enrolled. We have families at 3 who commute in from PS.

 
I was behind someone who had one of those, kept it open under a scaffold and the thing went the width of the walkway. No one could pass the person who was just shuffling along. It's not really high on my list of annoyances and I usually get a good laugh out of it because they look silly with them. Especially when they are small people.

 
:lol:

Completely unsurprising FC42 is that guy.

Just move to Dix Hills already.
Love to leave the city!!! My wife just doesn't want to go... She has been doing HW on public schools and is figuring out we are zoned to a top school, makes my argument even more difficult.
8 or 29? Both are good schools. The challenge is what to do after K-5.
Not 29, we are basically one street away from being zoned there... In fact everything I have heard is this is the most vanilla school in the city. All the kids get dropped off by their nannies, no parent interaction, etc.. We are zoned pre-K there though.

261, which supposedly is climbing the ranks and loved by every parent who has a child there.

 
:lol:

Completely unsurprising FC42 is that guy.

Just move to Dix Hills already.
Love to leave the city!!! My wife just doesn't want to go... She has been doing HW on public schools and is figuring out we are zoned to a top school, makes my argument even more difficult.
8 or 29? Both are good schools. The challenge is what to do after K-5.
Not 29, we are basically one street away from being zoned there... In fact everything I have heard is this is the most vanilla school in the city. All the kids get dropped off by their nannies, no parent interaction, etc.. We are zoned pre-K there though.

261, which supposedly is climbing the ranks and loved by every parent who has a child there.
we heard both of those things about our son's first school- ps 110 (LES), which we hated. but we're hateful people, so there's that.

eta: but hopefully it works out for you guys. sooo many involved, caring parents in the city- seems almost impossible for the schools to not get better.

 
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:lol:

Completely unsurprising FC42 is that guy.

Just move to Dix Hills already.
Love to leave the city!!! My wife just doesn't want to go... She has been doing HW on public schools and is figuring out we are zoned to a top school, makes my argument even more difficult.
8 or 29? Both are good schools. The challenge is what to do after K-5.
Not 29, we are basically one street away from being zoned there... In fact everything I have heard is this is the most vanilla school in the city. All the kids get dropped off by their nannies, no parent interaction, etc.. We are zoned pre-K there though.

261, which supposedly is climbing the ranks and loved by every parent who has a child there.
we heard both of those things about our son's first school- ps 110 (LES), which we hated. but we're hateful people, so there's that.

eta: but hopefully it works out for you guys. sooo many involved, caring parents in the city- seems almost impossible for the schools to not get better.
I lived one block west of 261 for eight years. It is improving, and Inside Schools has a favorable review. Personally I don't think it's on par with 8, 29 or 58 (Brooklyn Heights, Cobble Hill or Carrol Gardens). But I love that neighborhood and it's only going to get better IMO.

 

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