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Mad Cow said:
Thoughts on the CityPass?  Gets you Top of the Rock, Emp St Bldg, MOMA, Statue of Liberty and a few others.  $119/person. 

As for art, we hit art museums hardcore in Rome and Florence about 18 months ago, and we liked it a lot, but will see if we can invest an hour or so.

Yeah, I see I am a mile away.  Any subway routes to CP to shorten it?  My runs range from 5-10 miles currently about 5-6 days a week, so the 1 there and 1 back is not a big deal, but if there is a great waterfront run, I would love that, too.  I would guess I would like between 5 - 7 miles while there.  Say 1 CP run and 1 elsewhere?

Is there a primer to look at for subway routes to get your feet wet before you get there?  I have done tons of public transportation and am good with that, but just so I can be oriented when I get there to some extent.
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City Pass sounds great if you're able to get to all of those things. ESB is pretty expensive, IIRC- especially if you get a "fast pass" thing that allows you to jump right up to the top (I think)... not sure if the City Pass has that built-in or is extra.

Go to MoMa (53rd between 5th and 6th) and see the modern masters that you didn't get in Italy- Gogh's "starry night" is there... I'm stunned every time I get close to that thing- even hundreds of visits later.. I prefer the Met for first timers since it has everything, including modern (and buildings, ranging from Egyptian temples to Frank Lloyd Wright rooms), but it's also further uptown than you might want to go without wrapping it into something else and has a lot of history stuff that you probably want to avoid after Europetrip.

MTA subway ... it's easy to get around, especially with smart phones. I think they have unlimited short passes (day or week... not sure inbetween). You're right near the 6 train which can take you downtown to SoHo or Ground Zero/ Brooklyn Bridge.

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neat board... I guess I never posted that?

anyway... pre dinner puts you close to Times Square and early (6:00). there are some all-time restaurants like Le Bernadin nearby if you're ok dropping some serious money for michelin type grub. lots of whatever places too. I like Esca (mario batalli place on 9th and 43rd) for really good food but not pay the mortgage or this bill type of place.

I live across the street from Katz's- definitely worth going. typically a line down the street to get in around lunch and dinner. I'm writing now at 5:15, and no line. 

with two small kids, we don't really get out much so I'm out of touch with newer restaurants.

 
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So food, talk to me about great places that are lesser known near places we are likely to go.  I know Katz's, but you just never know about those articles that say the 25 restaurants every New Yorker should visit, etc.  I have a couple of breakfasts, 3 lunches and 4 dinners to fill.  Would like a nicer place one night, say the night of Les Mis on Friday, but can go either way.
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You're going to have to give some more parameters for the meals.  What neighborhoods or how long would you be willing to travel, types of food, types of drinks, price ranges, etc.  Its NYC - there are just too many options to list.

 
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dparker713 said:
You're going to have to give some more parameters for the meals.  What neighborhoods or how long would you be willing to travel, types of food, types of drinks, price ranges, etc.  Its NYC - there are just too many options to list.
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Perhaps best to give you my rough itinerary and then as you see things that might be around where I am at that time of day, just throw out a suggestion or so?

 
Mad Cow said:
Perhaps best to give you my rough itinerary and then as you see things that might be around where I am at that time of day, just throw out a suggestion or so?
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Assuming you'll be in midtown at some point around lunch time...Park Italian deli on 45th and 6th. Cash only. Get an Italian sub or something off the hot line. There are separate lines for hot and cold sandwiches. If it's crowded (12-1ish) and you can't figure it out, just ask the people around you. The first thing they'll ask you, before they take your order, is what bread you want but you may not understand or be able to hear. Just tell him you want a hero (they default to Italian bread but the whole wheat is much better IMO). 

Enjoy the owner (old guy) slapping down your change on the counter and yelling "Ciao". There's a good sized courtyard across the street where you can find a spot to sit. 

 
So The Met or MoMA if we wanted an hour or 2 tops?  We will be in Central Park on Saturday so getting to The Met is not that big a deal. 

 
I hope this doesn't come off as giving you the NYC attitude that you've likely heard so much about, but it seems like you're way too hung up on having some sort of perfect itinerary. Just pick a museum. You can't go wrong either way. A page or so ago weren't you saying you didn't really have interest in getting to one of them because you've been to so many great ones elsewhere? That's a perfectly fine approach. Skip wedging a museum in if it's not something you really want to do in your short time here. No schlepping to Coney Island just to say you did it. No one is going to score your trip. It's a great city and you'll have a great time even if you just roll with whatever situation you find yourself in.

I learned that in Rome a couple years ago. We didn't have a packed itinerary or anything but still our favorite day was when we had no plans for an afternoon and we ended up bar/cafe hopping. I think the only way to screw up being in an amazing city is over-planning. 

 
RUSF18 said:
Assuming you'll be in midtown at some point around lunch time...Park Italian deli on 45th and 6th. Cash only. Get an Italian sub or something off the hot line. There are separate lines for hot and cold sandwiches. If it's crowded (12-1ish) and you can't figure it out, just ask the people around you. The first thing they'll ask you, before they take your order, is what bread you want but you may not understand or be able to hear. Just tell him you want a hero (they default to Italian bread but the whole wheat is much better IMO). 

Enjoy the owner (old guy) slapping down your change on the counter and yelling "Ciao". There's a good sized courtyard across the street where you can find a spot to sit. 
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I think we talked about this before but I love that place. It's my go to for lunch when I'm in the area.

 
RUSF18 said:
I hope this doesn't come off as giving you the NYC attitude that you've likely heard so much about, but it seems like you're way too hung up on having some sort of perfect itinerary. Just pick a museum. You can't go wrong either way. A page or so ago weren't you saying you didn't really have interest in getting to one of them because you've been to so many great ones elsewhere? That's a perfectly fine approach. Skip wedging a museum in if it's not something you really want to do in your short time here. No schlepping to Coney Island just to say you did it. No one is going to score your trip. It's a great city and you'll have a great time even if you just roll with whatever situation you find yourself in.

I learned that in Rome a couple years ago. We didn't have a packed itinerary or anything but still our favorite day was when we had no plans for an afternoon and we ended up bar/cafe hopping. I think the only way to screw up being in an amazing city is over-planning. 
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Not at all, I just truly appreciate the help.  I guess the more you know, the more you fear missing out. :bag:   I will post my possible itinerary for critique/aid.  Very excited.

 
Major said:
I'd pass if just visiting.  I lived in NYC 10 years and only visited Coney Island once to see a concert.  Really far out there and time consuming.  
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Best way to do Coney Island is make an afternoon / evening out of it.  Hit out there, play some mini golf, hit the boardwalk, grab a couple nathans and then see a minor league ballgame. It's actually a fun half day / evening excursion to get out of Manhattan but not as suited for tourists unless you are here for a week plus.

 
jamny said:
I think we talked about this before but I love that place. It's my go to for lunch when I'm in the area.
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I used to work in the building with the courtyard. I'm now over on Park but walk over for a sandwich once a month. Which puts me right on schedule actually...

 
jamny said:
I think we talked about this before but I love that place. It's my go to for lunch when I'm in the area.
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is that place better than Alidoro? I miss the one downtown soho-ish off of 6th, same owner... Malampo? where if you ordered wrong or asked for substitutions, the owner would kick you out.

 
So here is how we are looking so far:

Wednesday - Arrive 6pm-ish.  Cab to hotel, check in, dinner @ a French place right by the hotel with great reviews, walk and whatever until it is time to call it quits.

Thursday - 7am morning run from UN south along East River to Brooklyn Bridge area? 
10am - 9/11 Memorial time
Noon - Statue of Liberty cruise, etc
2pm roughly - lunch at Katz's (walk through Little Italy or Chinatown from subway stop, then make way to Brooklyn Bridge and that area
Pick up my CE packet late afternoon
Have a 7:15pm appt with Top of the Rock, so will spend evening in this area - Rockefeller Center, walking/shopping.Times Square?
Day booked up but need a good place for dinner?
 

Friday - Morning booked with CE classes
Meet after classes for lunch at Park Italian Gourmet perhaps?  around noon, or whatever here
Hit MoMA for a couple of hours in afternoon, then back to hotel to change for evening
Get a 5pm dinner reservation to give Esca a try per recommendation.  Not much else left with reservation times here, open to another place
Walk Broadway until 8pm Les Mis show

Saturday - 7am Central Park Run, then back to shower
Breakfast at the Plaza? Then go around Central Park for a few hours, maybe hit the Met for an hour since it is donation?
Is there a fun lunch place around or in CP? 
This is what I have to now.  I want to leave Saturday open for whatever, more relaxing.  If we want to spend all afternoon in the CP area, great.  Whatever.  Might like to see the Lincoln Center since it is right there, as well.
Open to suggestions on other things as well as dinner.  Have read that P.J. Clarke's is great - thoughts on that?

So there you have it.  Please give me thoughts/suggestions/etc.

Thanks so much for your help to this point.
 

 
Mad Cow said:
Meet after classes for lunch at Park Italian Gourmet perhaps?  around noon, or whatever here
 
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Just a heads up. While I seconded the recommendation, Park Italian is just a no-frills deli with some tables. While the food is really good, especially hot food, and the prices can't be beat in the area, I'm not sure I'd call it Gourmet. Still, a great lunch spot though.

If you're really hungry after the Statue cruise and won't make it to Katz, I'd recommend going to Stone Street, a cute one block pedestrian only cobblestone street with a bunch of restaurants right in the middle of Wall St. Don't confuse it with the regular Stone St, one block west. Or walk up the west side from Battery Park along the Esplanade towards Brookfield Place. Quite a few restaurants over there, PJ Clarks on The Hudson has a great view. Shake Shack or Blue Smoke. 

 
Fwiw, if you're running central park (and doing the route I recommended), I dont think you need to make a second visit. Imo, since you're already hitting Moma, skip the Met and head across town to the high line.  Walk down to 16th and hit Chelsea Market for lunch... or lots of places in the meat packing area. Or,  from there you can walk down into the west village- very nice, off the nyc grid mostly old townhouses on cobbled streets w lots of nice restaurants and shops. You could also head down to SoHo or start across to washington square park and then down to SoHo.

Re: run loo on east river... from 34th down to about 10th st, its kind of meh, imo. You're next to the highway and housing. Below there, its a revamped boardwalk along the river for a mile or two which is really nice- run right along the river with playing fields to your right. Below the manhattan bridge it swings aling under the fdr drive around some piers and the back along the river to the old fulton fish market, south streetseaport (old tall ships docked there) and around to the battery/si ferry.

How long did you plan to run? Out and back, or  were you going to keep running up the Hudson to 34th and back over to the hotel (thats a pretty long run, but nice... Except for the 34th st party)?

 
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jamny said:
Just a heads up. While I seconded the recommendation, Park Italian is just a no-frills deli with some tables. While the food is really good, especially hot food, and the prices can't be beat in the area, I'm not sure I'd call it Gourmet. Still, a great lunch spot though.
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I think they call it Gourmet  :lmao: but that sign has probably been there for 30 years. 

 
Mad Cow said:
So here is how we are looking so far:

2pm roughly - lunch at Katz's (walk through Little Italy or Chinatown from subway stop, then make way to Brooklyn Bridge and that area

Have a 7:15pm appt with Top of the Rock, so will spend evening in this area - Rockefeller Center, walking/shopping.Times Square?
Day booked up but need a good place for dinner?

Hit MoMA for a couple of hours in afternoon, then back to hotel to change for evening
Get a 5pm dinner reservation to give Esca a try per recommendation.  Not much else left with reservation times here, open to another place

Breakfast at the Plaza? Then go around Central Park for a few hours, maybe hit the Met for an hour since it is donation?
Is there a fun lunch place around or in CP? 

Open to suggestions on other things as well as dinner.  Have read that P.J. Clarke's is great - thoughts on that?
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Ten years ago, you would not find a bigger fan of Katz's than me.  Last two times I have been there, I have been disappointed, and I am probably done with it.  It changed hands a while ago, the meats are not nearly as juicy, and portions are smaller (which isn't a deal breaker, portions are still too big).  Eating there is also heavy as heck, so if you are planning busy days, dropping a big ol' pastrami sandwich in your gut might not be the best move.  I would say this:  If you are a deli guy, and love a brisket or pastrami sandwich more than anything, then go.  Because bad Katz's is still better than just about any other deli.  But if it is just to go there because it's Katz's, then don't.  

I would recommend http://www.freemansrestaurant.com/  It's a funky little place down an alley, you'll definitely feel like a hip New Yorker.  Or http://www.ivanramen.com/  Cheaper, great Ramen place, and won't slow you down.  The Lower East Side is pretty great to walk around now, you could also just cruise, and menu shop.  

As far as dinner in the Midtown West area, Rockefeller Center etc.  my go-to spot there is http://www.piopio.com/  a fun Peruvian restaurant.  Good Theater District Italian here:  http://www.trattoriatrecolori.com/

Whatever museum time you have planned, double it.  No joke.  There's no quick cruises into the museums.  2 hours minimum.  

Lunch near Central Park:  Italian:  http://villagiorestaurants.com/location-new-york.php Cheap and good sandwich place:  http://www.nyclunchbox.com/lunchbox.php  And of course:  http://carnegiedeli.com/

Is there no steakhouses on the menu??

 
El Floppo said:
Fwiw, if you're running central park (and doing the route I recommended), I dont think you need to make a second visit. Imo, since you're already hitting Moma, skip the Met and head across town to the high line.  Walk down to 16th and hit Chelsea Market for lunch... or lots of places in the meat packing area. Or,  from there you can walk down into the west village- very nice, off the nyc grid mostly old townhouses on cobbled streets w lots of nice restaurants and shops. You could also head down to SoHo or start across to washington square park and then down to SoHo.

Re: run loo on east river... from 34th down to about 10th st, its kind of meh, imo. You're next to the highway and housing. Below there, its a revamped boardwalk along the river for a mile or two which is really nice- run right along the river with playing fields to your right. Below the manhattan bridge it swings aling under the fdr drive around some piers and the back along the river to the old fulton fish market, south streetseaport (old tall ships docked there) and around to the battery/si ferry.

How long did you plan to run? Out and back, or  were you going to keep running up the Hudson to 34th and back over to the hotel (thats a pretty long run, but nice... Except for the 34th st party)?
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I was gonna say head west, run along the Hudson.  

 
El Floppo said:
Fwiw, if you're running central park (and doing the route I recommended), I dont think you need to make a second visit. Imo, since you're already hitting Moma, skip the Met and head across town to the high line.  Walk down to 16th and hit Chelsea Market for lunch... or lots of places in the meat packing area. Or,  from there you can walk down into the west village- very nice, off the nyc grid mostly old townhouses on cobbled streets w lots of nice restaurants and shops. You could also head down to SoHo or start across to washington square park and then down to SoHo.

Re: run loo on east river... from 34th down to about 10th st, its kind of meh, imo. You're next to the highway and housing. Below there, its a revamped boardwalk along the river for a mile or two which is really nice- run right along the river with playing fields to your right. Below the manhattan bridge it swings aling under the fdr drive around some piers and the back along the river to the old fulton fish market, south streetseaport (old tall ships docked there) and around to the battery/si ferry.

How long did you plan to run? Out and back, or  were you going to keep running up the Hudson to 34th and back over to the hotel (thats a pretty long run, but nice... Except for the 34th st party)?
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If you end up walking into the West Village, go to Market Table.  That would be a good place to get an early reservation prior to the theater.  You can hop on a subway at West 4th after and be to Times square area in 10-15 minutes.  

 
Thank you for all of the responses.  I think I was thinking east river because it had been mentioned and it would be a fast trip to get there.  Since I am at 34th basically, I can head that way and south.  I would just do an out and back there because I have just not been feeling great lately.  Got a lung infection last week and while it is getting better, I can feel my breathing is at like 70% right now.

We might have to check out Eataly.  Sounds cool.

As for the Gourmet, yeah, that is just how it is listed on Google.  Looks like a fun place to grab a sandwich.

 
Mad Cow said:
Thank you for all of the responses.  I think I was thinking east river because it had been mentioned and it would be a fast trip to get there.  Since I am at 34th basically, I can head that way and south.  I would just do an out and back there because I have just not been feeling great lately.  Got a lung infection last week and while it is getting better, I can feel my breathing is at like 70% right now.

We might have to check out Eataly.  Sounds cool.

As for the Gourmet, yeah, that is just how it is listed on Google.  Looks like a fun place to grab a sandwich.
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the key was IIRC, you're 34th and Lex or Park which is a few blocks from the E river, as opposed to a whole bunch o' blocks runnign through the busiest worst part of NYC to get to the Hudson... and not even a nice stretch of the Hudson (nicer below Chelsea piers <20th st)

 
El Floppo said:
the key was IIRC, you're 34th and Lex or Park which is a few blocks from the E river, as opposed to a whole bunch o' blocks runnign through the busiest worst part of NYC to get to the Hudson... and not even a nice stretch of the Hudson (nicer below Chelsea piers <20th st)
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Yeah,  I wasnt sure I should recommend that,  and really,  early in the day,  probably nice on east side.  Afternoon when i ride,  i like the west side. Dark over there on east side in afternoon 

 
rodg12 said:
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Little Italy, 43rd between Madison and 5th. 

There are other "Little Italy" locations, including one on 45th bt 5/6 (right across from Park Italian, actually) that are unaffiliated and much worse. 

 
On a side note, I used to think that New Jersey drivers were the worst drivers in the known universe.  Recent evidence, however, has revealed a tie between Access-a-ride drivers and Pennsylvania drivers.  WTF with these guys?  I've almost been killed several times in the past few months by both groups. We should impound all cars for Penn drivers when they reach the city limits. I'm not sure what the hell to do about the access-a-ride a SShats.  

Have I posted this rant before?  It's been bugging me for awhile.  

 
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On a side note, I used to think that New Jersey drivers were the worst drivers in the known universe.  Recent evidence, however, has revealed a tie between Access-a-ride drivers and Pennsylvania drivers.  WTF with these guys?  I've almost been killed several times in the past few months by both groups. We should impound all cars for Penn drivers when they reach the city limits. I'm not sure what the hell to do about the access-a-ride a SShats.  

Have I posted this rant before?  It's been bugging me for awhile.  
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we've had the delaware driver talk before, IIRC. but they tend to stay within their crappy quaint state, leaving the rest of us safe.

in the city- I've never seen the guys you're talking about. but the buses to the ferry used to try to hit any biker within arms reach, swerving across lanes to do so. worse than garbage trucks, who obviously don't give a rat's ###.

 
Just reading what Mad Cow is going to do made me tired. 

I'd also say that if you are willing to eat at 5pm on that Friday, you can expand your search radius to anywhere on the westside and just cab it back/walk.  That being said Esca is good and probably the one place I would eat in around Times Square.  We usually just eat in the Hell's Kitchen area and walk over.

Of course I'll be trucking 3 kids, an aunt that has trouble walking for long distances, and my parents around this weekend.  Thank god it's finally warmish. 

BTW, I'd definitely try to walk the High Line one of the afternoons and end up in the Meatpacking either for lunch (Chelsea Market, there's another mark thing on Gaansvoort, Standard Beer Garden, Toro (dinner), Spotted Pig, Del Posto (splurging)).  It's less crowded during the day, but the walk closer to dinnertime is nice with the sunset.  Start at 34th and go the whole way to the Whitney (which isn't my favorite museum besides walking on its terraces).  You can also pretty easily cab it up from there for a show in Times Square if you eat at 5-5:30. 

 
El Floppo said:
Fwiw, if you're running central park (and doing the route I recommended), I dont think you need to make a second visit. Imo, since you're already hitting Moma, skip the Met and head across town to the high line.  Walk down to 16th and hit Chelsea Market for lunch... or lots of places in the meat packing area. Or,  from there you can walk down into the west village- very nice, off the nyc grid mostly old townhouses on cobbled streets w lots of nice restaurants and shops. You could also head down to SoHo or start across to washington square park and then down to SoHo.
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Sammy3469 said:
Just reading what Mad Cow is going to do made me tired. 

I'd also say that if you are willing to eat at 5pm on that Friday, you can expand your search radius to anywhere on the westside and just cab it back/walk.  That being said Esca is good and probably the one place I would eat in around Times Square.  We usually just eat in the Hell's Kitchen area and walk over.

Of course I'll be trucking 3 kids, an aunt that has trouble walking for long distances, and my parents around this weekend.  Thank god it's finally warmish. 

BTW, I'd definitely try to walk the High Line one of the afternoons and end up in the Meatpacking either for lunch (Chelsea Market, there's another mark thing on Gaansvoort, Standard Beer Garden, Toro (dinner), Spotted Pig, Del Posto (splurging)).  It's less crowded during the day, but the walk closer to dinnertime is nice with the sunset.  Start at 34th and go the whole way to the Whitney (which isn't my favorite museum besides walking on its terraces).  You can also pretty easily cab it up from there for a show in Times Square if you eat at 5-5:30. 
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Sammy3469 said:
Just reading what Mad Cow is going to do made me tired. 

I'd also say that if you are willing to eat at 5pm on that Friday, you can expand your search radius to anywhere on the westside and just cab it back/walk.  That being said Esca is good and probably the one place I would eat in around Times Square.  We usually just eat in the Hell's Kitchen area and walk over.

Of course I'll be trucking 3 kids, an aunt that has trouble walking for long distances, and my parents around this weekend.  Thank god it's finally warmish. 

BTW, I'd definitely try to walk the High Line one of the afternoons and end up in the Meatpacking either for lunch (Chelsea Market, there's another mark thing on Gaansvoort, Standard Beer Garden, Toro (dinner), Spotted Pig, Del Posto (splurging)).  It's less crowded during the day, but the walk closer to dinnertime is nice with the sunset.  Start at 34th and go the whole way to the Whitney (which isn't my favorite museum besides walking on its terraces).  You can also pretty easily cab it up from there for a show in Times Square if you eat at 5-5:30. 
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We are fairly experienced vacationers.  We walked between 7-11 miles a day while in Italy, and that is in addition to my runs of 5-6 miles I would do.  Hopefully, the streets of NYC will be kind.  With kids, it would be entirely different.

I will take a hard look at the High Line, I know it was recommended.

 
As for the High Line, I am reconsidering and telling my wife to just meet me at the Javitts after class on Friday AM and we can walk along it and grab lunch, etc.  Sound like a plan?

 
Mad Cow said:
As for the High Line, I am reconsidering and telling my wife to just meet me at the Javitts after class on Friday AM and we can walk along it and grab lunch, etc.  Sound like a plan?
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good plan. plus your wife gets to visit the magnificence of 35th and 11th ave.

 
Mad Cow said:
As for the High Line, I am reconsidering and telling my wife to just meet me at the Javitts after class on Friday AM and we can walk along it and grab lunch, etc.  Sound like a plan?
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Yeah, it's pretty great.  And you can grab lunch in Meatpack District/Chelsea very easily.  Good choices.

 
massraider said:
Bro.

So bad.  So very, very bad.  Was in a car there two weeks ago.  Never again.  
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Dang, I feel I need to know the details here.

BTW made a reservation at a steak house for that night before the show.  5pm would be too early and soon after lunch.  Called West Side Steakhouse.  Prices look pretty good and it has great reviews from what I can see.  Thoughts?  Just a few blocks from the theater.

 
OK, getting excited to fly out tomorrow morning.  Will I look like a target with a nice backpack as we run around?  I used my Osprey Talon pack all over Italy and it is just great.  Would like to use it here for shopping items, USB chargers, etc.  Too touristy or lame?

 
Mad Cow said:
Dang, I feel I need to know the details here.

BTW made a reservation at a steak house for that night before the show.  5pm would be too early and soon after lunch.  Called West Side Steakhouse.  Prices look pretty good and it has great reviews from what I can see.  Thoughts?  Just a few blocks from the theater.
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You can also try some of the places in the low 30s/high 20s like Lupulo, Breslin bar, any of the places like Nomad.

They're all bar-ry with great food.  Lupulo is only on Resy or you can call for a reservation.  

 
Mad Cow said:
OK, getting excited to fly out tomorrow morning.  Will I look like a target with a nice backpack as we run around?  I used my Osprey Talon pack all over Italy and it is just great.  Would like to use it here for shopping items, USB chargers, etc.  Too touristy or lame?
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Everyone caries a bag. It's your LL Bean jacket, your slow ###, your upwards gaze and your open mouth that makes you look like a tourist. 

 
Stay to the ### ####ed right! 

Have fun! Wave hi when you're at Katzs. I don't think tourists get targeted like the 1980s, but better safe than sorry I guess. And stay to right. 

 
Mad Cow said:
Dang, I feel I need to know the details here.

BTW made a reservation at a steak house for that night before the show.  5pm would be too early and soon after lunch.  Called West Side Steakhouse.  Prices look pretty good and it has great reviews from what I can see.  Thoughts?  Just a few blocks from the theater.
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Another steakhouse near the theaters is Churrascaria Plataforma on 49th between 8th and 9th.  It's a Brazilian Steakhouse.  The food and the service is great, but it's not cheap.  ETA - their website: http://plataformaonline.com/

As far as 35th and 11th, there's a HUGE construction project going on in that area (Hudson Yards) so it feels like a wasteland walking around there.  Plus, 11th Ave is like 5 lanes wide and it's near the river so it's windy.

 
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RUSF18 said:
Assuming you'll be in midtown at some point around lunch time...Park Italian deli on 45th and 6th. Cash only. Get an Italian sub or something off the hot line. There are separate lines for hot and cold sandwiches. If it's crowded (12-1ish) and you can't figure it out, just ask the people around you. The first thing they'll ask you, before they take your order, is what bread you want but you may not understand or be able to hear. Just tell him you want a hero (they default to Italian bread but the whole wheat is much better IMO). 

Enjoy the owner (old guy) slapping down your change on the counter and yelling "Ciao". There's a good sized courtyard across the street where you can find a spot to sit. 
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Have you guys tried Homefront Deli (on 41st between Madison and Park)?  It's also a good, no frills deli.  Strictly take-out, though.

 
UrbanSpace on 45th and Vanderbilt is also good as far as midtown lunch.  I have eaten at several of the places there and it's all been good.  I especially liked the ramen stand.  The lobster roll place is good too, but it's expensive.

 
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